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Subject: Cider Digest #1137, 26 May 2004
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Cider Digest #1137 26 May 2004
Forum for Discussion of Cider Issues
Dick Dunn, Digest Janitor
Contents:
Apple flavor in cider ("Peter Johnson")
Conical fermenters for racking? (tblists)
BUZZ Off Results ("Christopher Clair")
cider in Seattle (David Darr)
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Subject: Apple flavor in cider
From: "Peter Johnson" <johnson_peter@sbcglobal.net>
Date: Sat, 22 May 2004 11:33:00 -0500
Has anyone been successful in retaining an apple flavor in their cider? My
cider seems to ferment most to all of the apple flavor out of the final
product. I have tried champagne, Epernay, Cotes des Blancs, Nottingham,
Windsor Ale, and Doric yeast with varying degrees of dryness but none
particularly had an apple flavor. Any assistance or suggestions would be
greatly appreciated.
Thank you,
Peter Johnson
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Subject: Conical fermenters for racking?
From: tblists <tblists@pshift.com>
Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2005 11:23:59 -0500
Hello all:
After spending the spring building my deer fence and (FINALLY) planting my
orchard, I look at my little trees and envision so many possibilities in
the years to come. Today, my thoughts wander to the Nehou, Binet Rouge,
and Bedan trees amd the French-style ciders I plan to make. My question
regards the traditional multiple rackings required for this style of
cider. Has anyone tried using conical fermenters to achieve this with out
the oxygen-introducing rackings? Or would the best results come from
stirring the bottom of the cider as is done when siphoning?
On a similar note, one batch of my '03 cider turned out to have a nice,
slightly sweet character after a somewhat successful keeve and one more
racking than my usual (two, instead of one). This batch seems to be my
best yet, even better than the barrel batch which is made up of some 15%
high-tannin varieties from Farnum Hill/Poverty Lane. The latter batch is
very pale with little oxidation of the original juice, as I sulfited the
pulp while milling. It is fairly high acid, and I am awaiting MLF after
inoculating.
All for now,
Terry B
Terence Bradshaw
1189 Wheeler Road
Calais, VT 05648
bradshaw@pshift.com
(802)229-2004
The views represented by me are mine and mine only................
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Subject: BUZZ Off Results
From: "Christopher Clair" <buzz@netreach.net>
Date: Sun, 23 May 2004 17:46:34 -0400
Hello everyone,
As many of you already know, the HomeBrew Digest has been down for several
weeks and our web site is currently hosted by the HBD. As a result, there
is no way to post the BUZZ Off results. I have included below the results.
MCAB winners will be posted later. Thank you to everyone who entered and
congratulations to all our winners!
Christopher Clair
2004 BUZZ OFF WINNERS
TABLE 1: LIGHT LAGER
1ST Phil Kitkowski N. German Pilsner Novi, MI
2nd Calvin Perilloux Light/Std/Premium Middletown, MD
3rd Calvin Perilloux Munich Helles Middletown, MD
TABLE 2: LIGHT ALES
1st Bill Wible Cream Ale Coatesville, PA
2nd Phil Kitkowski American Wheat Novi, MI
3rd Bill Wible Blonde Ale Coatesville, PA
TABLE 3: BITTERS
1st Edward Bielaus Special/Best Bitter Rockville, MD
2nd Mel Thompson Special/Best Bitter Gaithersburg, MD
3rd Ted Johnson Special/Best Bitter Phoenixville, PA
TABLE 4: PALE ALES
1st Rob Kolacny American Pale Ale Wharton, TX
2nd Jeff Carlson California Common Grand Rapids, MI
3rd Brian Kloss California Common New York, NY
TABLE 5: IPA
1st Phil Kitkowski India Pale Ale Novi, MI
2nd Dan Jagodzinksi India Pale Ale Linwood, NY
3rd Richard Kirn India Pale Ale Garden City, MI
TABLE 6: KOLSCH AND ALT
1st Christopher Clair N. German Altbier West Chester, PA
2nd Phil Kitkowski Koelsch-Style Ale Novi, MI
3rd Edward Bielaus Koelsch-Style Ale Rockville, MD
TABLE 7: GERMAN LAGERS
1st Bob Purrenhage Vienna Berwyn, PA
2nd Michael Robinson Doppelbock Nottingham, NH
3rd Michael Robinson Traditional Bock Nottingham, NH
TABLE 8: DARK ALES
1st Bill Wible American Brown Coatesville, PA
2nd Ed Bielaus Export 80 Rockville, MD
3rd Jimmy Paige Northern English Houston, TX
TABLE 9: BARLEYWINES
1st Ted Johnston English-style Phoenixville, PA
2nd Michael Robinson American-style Nottingham, NH
3rd Mel Thompson American-style Gaithersburg, MD
TABLE 10: OLD/SCOTCH/IMPERIAL STOUT
1st Al Folsom Jr. Rus?n Imperial St. Warrington, PA
2nd Patrick Flickinger Rus?n Imperial St. West Chester, PA
3rd Keith Seguine Strong Scotch Ale Woodbridge, NJ
TABLE 11: PORTERS
1st Edward Bielaus Robust Rockville, MD
2nd Mike Tripica Robust Sayreville, NJ
3rd Bruce Millington Robust Marlton, NJ
TABLE 12: STOUTS
1st Eric Christensen Sweet Huntingtown, MD
2nd Al Folsom Jr Foreign Extra Warrington, PA
3rd Al Folsom Jr. Sweet Warrington, PA
TABLE 13: WHEATS
1st Jeff Carlson Bavar?n Dunkelweizen Grand Rapids, MI
2nd Bob Purrenhage Bavarian Weizen Berwyn, PA
3rd Bill Wible Bavarian Weizen Coatesville, PA
TABLE 14: STRONG BELGIANS
1st Paul Romanowsky Dubbel Harleysville, PA
2nd Mel Thompson Tripel Gaithersburg, MD
3rd Paul McGinnis Jr. Belgian Strong Dark Coatesville, PA
TABLE 15: BELGIAN AND FRENCH
1st Bill Vizzachero Biere De Garde Wyndmoor, PA
2nd Dave Justice Belgian Specialty Knoxville, MD
3rd Scott Wilson Witbier Paxinos, PA
TABLE 16: LAMBIC/SOUR/FRUIT
1st Al Folsom Jr. Flanders Red Ale Warrington, PA
2nd Joe Lynn Fruit Lambic-Style Downingtown, PA
3rd Al Folsom Jr. Oud Bruin Warrington, PA
TABLE 17: SMOKE BEERS
1st Dan Jagodzinski Other Smoked Beers Linwood, NY
2nd Paul McGinnis Jr. Other Smoked Beers Coatesville, PA
3rd Ron Daubel Other Smoked Beers Downingtown, PA
TABLE 18: SPC/EXP/HIST/SPICE
1st Garvin and Lewis Kellerbier Mclean, VA (BOS!)
2nd Bill Wible Imperial IPA Coatesville, PA
3rd Bill Wible Irish Red Ale Coatesville, PA
TABLE 19: MEADS AND CIDERS
1st Vince Galet Traditional Mead Collegeville, PA
2nd Al Hazan Cyser (Apple) Stroudsburg, PA
3rd Vince Galet Blueberry Fruit Melomel Collegeville, PA
THE BEST OF SHOW WINNER WAS FROM RICK GARVIN AND CHRISTINE LEWIS, FOR THEIR
KELLERBIER!
AL FULSOM JR. WAS NAMED DELAWARE VALLEY HOMEBREWER OF THE YEAR!
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Subject: cider in Seattle
From: David Darr <dsdarr@yahoo.com>
Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 11:34:40 -0700 (PDT)
> Subject: Chiago
> From: michael lewis <orientmoron@yahoo.com>
>
> Does anyone know of any outlets in Chicago where I
> can
> get some decent hard cider?
I would be interested in finding good sources for
cider in the Seattle area. I can find Westcott Bay,
White Oak, and Irvine's at Metropolitain Market. I've
seen Westcott Bay at Whole Foods. Any other sources?
What about restaurants/bars? I know of several sources
for Norman cider here as well but I am particularly
interested in finding good, local cider.
David
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