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Subject: Cider Digest #874, 31 August 2000
From: cider-request@talisman.com
Cider Digest #874 31 August 2000
Forum for Discussion of Cider Issues
Dick Dunn, Digest Janitor
Contents:
("Julian Temperley")
Re: Cider Digest #873, 26 August 2000 ("William Rhyne")
Choices, Choices, Choices... ("Philip J Wilcox")
New cider website (Andrew Lea)
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Subject:
From: "Julian Temperley" <somcb@globalnet.co.uk>
Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2000 20:05:53 +0100
This looks like being a bad year for Kingstom Black apples in the SW of
the UK. Does anybody have any to spare? We need them for our Apple
Aperitif and are happy to pay =A3200 per ton . The Somerset Cider Brandy
Co . www.ciderbrandy.co.uk
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Subject: Re: Cider Digest #873, 26 August 2000
From: "William Rhyne" <billrhyne@hotmail.com>
Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 01:48:03 PDT
Hello Cider Digest
This is note from Bill Rhyne in Shanghai, China. In addition to my
activities with our business, Rhyne Cyder, I teach marketing for a business
school in Oakland, CA with contracts to teach MBA programs in China. Earlier
this month, I awas in Xian, Shaanxi Province. I learned some interesting
statistics. China produces 1/3 of the world supply of apples and Shaanxi
Province produces 1/2 of China's output.Shaanxi produces 3.5 million tons of
apples. The other area that I have taught is in Jinan, Shandong Province
where the apples and wine grapes are grown around the Yantai peninsula.
Bulmers has established a joint venture with a brewery in Qifu, Shandong
Peninsula--home of Confucius. I have seen Strongbow for sale in the pubs in
Shanghai but the bartenders say that they don't sell very much if any of it
yet except to Englishmen who visit.
I don't have the names or spelling of the Chinese apples that are grown but
there are a lot of Fuji's. I have seen apples from New Zealand and
Washington (the ubiquitous Red Delicious) in the market places. I have tried
only a couple of the apples so far for fresh eating. Nothing outstanding. I
had some Rong Apple Juice in a tetra pak though that was like liquid fresh
apple. It was really tasty.
After Shanghai, I go to Tianjin and Beijing, then back to Sonoma, CA. for
more fermenting and selling of cider.
That's all for now.
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Subject: Choices, Choices, Choices...
From: "Philip J Wilcox" <pjwilcox@cmsenergy.com>
Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 16:49:03 -0400
I have been talking it up with an orchard owner who has his own press, and
I think we will be able to do a club press similar to what the Boston club
does. Though we have shared a few cider's together, he really talks about
apples in a different language than I have learned here on the Cider
Digest. Many Thanks to Dick and Andrew for the education. My question lies
in what apples to use in a custom blend. His short list looks like this,
there are 30 other varieties that are not listed.
Cortland
Fenton Red
Golden Delicious
Idared
Johathan
Lodi
McIntosh
Northern Spy
Ozark Gold
Red Delidious
Rhode Island Greening*
Rome Beauty
Snow*
Stayman Winesap
Steel red
Tolman Sweet*
Wealthy*
Wolf River*
*are antique varities
Thankyou in advance for any suggestions.
Phil WIlcox
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Subject: New cider website
From: Andrew Lea <andrew_lea@compuserve.com>
Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 19:59:05 +0100
Digest readers may like to know that the official UK National
Association of Cidermakers website has just become active at
http://www.cideruk.com/
Worth a look for some nice piccies and current info, and you can
download their Cider 2000 booklet from it. Very mainstream as you would
expect, and a bit coy about fermentable adjuncts!!
See also the corresponding Europe wide site at
http://www.aicv.org/
Andrew Lea
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Visit the Wittenham Hill Cider Page at
http://www.cider.org.uk OR
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/andrew_lea
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