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Subject: Cider Digest #797, 9 March 1999
From: cider-request@talisman.com
Cider Digest #797 9 March 1999
Forum for Discussion of Cider Issues
Dick Dunn, Digest Janitor
Contents:
Bore and Fleckinger reference ("McDonald, Rod")
More on Bore and Fleckinger ("McDonald, Rod")
Re: Sources for French Varieties (Claude JOLICOEUR)
Re: Pommiers a cidre (Claude JOLICOEUR)
Re: Cider Digest #796, 2 March 1999 (keith dalluhn)
Re: Cider Digest #796, 2 March 1999 (Lealon Watts)
Storage Containers (Richard Anderson)
Bulmers Pomona (Richard Anderson)
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Subject: Bore and Fleckinger reference
From: "McDonald, Rod" <Rod.McDonald@isr.gov.au>
Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1999 09:56:39 +1100
> Claude Jolicouer wrote that Bore and Fleckinger's "Pommiers a cidre -
varietes de
France", 1997 is
"huge
> (771 pages) and
> expensive.
What do you mean by expensive? Here in Australia we are used to paying
excessively for quality books. Having recently bought Temperate Zone
Pomology for A$145 it would be useful to know what the list price of this
publication is.
Thanks
Rod
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Subject: More on Bore and Fleckinger
From: "McDonald, Rod" <Rod.McDonald@isr.gov.au>
Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1999 10:09:55 +1100
I have just found a reference to Bore and Fleckinger's Pommiers =E0 =
cidre
"Vari=E9t=E9s de France" at
http://www.village.tm.fr/Lib/Html/A_3507.html
which lists the price as 540 Francs. This equates approximately to =
A$150 or
US$90.=20
Rod
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Subject: Re: Sources for French Varieties
From: Claude JOLICOEUR <cjoli@gmc.ulaval.ca>
Date: Tue, 02 Mar 1999 23:43:39 -0500
In Cider Digest #793, 11 Feb. 1999, Tim Bray wrote :
>Does anyone know where an American grower (California) might obtain French
>cider apple cultivars (whips, grafts, scions, buds, whatever)?
I just recieved a word from NAFEX member Lee Elliot, Cider Hill Nursery,
1852 Woodson-Winchester Road, Winchester, Il. 62694, phone 217-882-2047. He
sent me his catalog and has the following French varieties : Muscadet de
Dieppe, Muscadet de Bernay and Nehou, plus about 2 dozen English cider
varieties.
Claude Jolicoeur, Quebec
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Subject: Re: Pommiers a cidre
From: Claude JOLICOEUR <cjoli@gmc.ulaval.ca>
Date: Tue, 02 Mar 1999 23:44:13 -0500
In Cider Digest #796, 2 March 1999, Andrew Lea wrote:
>I can't find it (Bore and Fleckinger, Pommiers a cidre) via the INRA
on-line >catalogue but I've requested the
>printed version. That book sounds terrific. There's never been anything
>that comprehensive, for cider, in English. The most recent cider apple
>book was Bulmers Pomona which runs to just 35 cider cultivars. Sob,
>sob....!!
Andrew,
Try this web address :
www.inra.fr/cgi-bin/nph-engine/htdocs/USER/EDITIONS/index.mhtml?bidon=9204
06795&gau=formulaire.mhtml
(all on one line)
This has worked today (March 2). It will bring you to a search engine. You
can then type "Fleckinger" under Auteur and this will bring you directly to
the Bore and Fleckinger book.
I must say this site is strangely built. Last time I had seen it, the book
was easy to find under the new releases, but it's not there anymore.
About English varieties, you surely have "The Book of Apples" by Morgan and
Richards, where 70 varieties, mostly English, are listed. But the
descriptions are extremely short and don't compare with the information
that can be found in Bore and Fleckinger.
Claude Jolicoeur, Quebec
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Subject: Re: Cider Digest #796, 2 March 1999
From: keith dalluhn <tillek@alphastar.com>
Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 09:58:36 -0600
>
>I've been a Homebrewer for some time now, but I'd like to give Cider a
>try. I believe I've got most of the equipment already, but I could
>use some help in creating a relatively simply 1 gallon test batch.
>
>Can I simply get a gallon of Preservative-Free apple cider from the
>local health food store to start with? Or should I wait until we make
>our yearly trek to the mountains and get a gallon of freshly-pressed
>cider?
>
>And will a glass gallon container (such as what the cider comes in at
>the health food store) be good enough to use?
>
>Many thanks in advance,
>
>tom
>==
>Tom Franklin
>Raleigh, NC
My first batch of cider cost me all of $10 to make. I purchased a gallon
of preservative free non pasturized cider, a small container of nutrient, a
Wyeast smack pack and an airlock. I opened the jug, poured out about 1/2
cup of cider dumoed in the yeast and nutrient and threw on the airlock. 2
months later, cider! Now, with this you have to remember that you are
going to have a lot of blow off from the airlock and will have to clean it
almost every day.
Still the best batch I have made.
- -Keith
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Subject: Re: Cider Digest #796, 2 March 1999
From: Lealon Watts <lwatts@worldnet.att.net>
Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1999 09:49:15 -0800
Nice selection of apples here:
Sonoma Antique Apple Nursery
http://applenursery.com/
Table apples, bittersweets, cider apples. Nice selection of other
fruits also.
L. Watts
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Subject: Storage Containers
From: Richard Anderson <baylonanderson@csi.com>
Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 21:20:12 -0800
I recently purchased several new storage containers for cider. They are
consturcted of High Density Polyethylene(HPLPE). This is FDA approved
material but it has a heavy resin smell. Any ideas as how to remove the
smell?
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Subject: Bulmers Pomona
From: Richard Anderson <baylonanderson@csi.com>
Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 21:29:55 -0800
Is the Bulmers Pomona still in print? Where can you purchase one?
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