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Cider Digest #0747
Subject: Cider Digest #747, 5 June 1998
From: cider-request@talisman.com
Cider Digest #747 5 June 1998
Forum for Discussion of Cider Issues
Dick Dunn, Digest Janitor
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Re: Something going on at Southmeadow/Grootendorst? ("Kathy Hutchins")
Re: Cider Digest #746, 1 June 1998 ()
Southmeadow Fruit Gardens ("James Comstock")
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Subject: Re: Something going on at Southmeadow/Grootendorst?
From: "Kathy Hutchins" <kathy@regen.rg.iupui.edu>
Date: Tue, 2 Jun 1998 09:33:53 EST
Dick Dunn writes:
> This is discouraging to me, to have prepped an area for planting and then
> not have anything to plant, and to be set back a year on getting some trees
> to bearing age. It's also a larger concern because Southmeadow is one of
> the few sources (that I know of) for specific cider varieties.
I agree, this all sounds very troubling. I have never dealt with
Southmeadow. Have you tried getting the varieties you need from Sonoma
Antique Apple Nursery in Sonoma CA? At first I was worried about buying
from a nursery located in a climate so different from mine (central
Indiana) but we have been dealing with them for three years now and
every interaction has been absolutely positive, and the trees are
growing great! (Except for the one my dad girdled with his weedwhacker,
but that's another story.) We have purchased Trembletts Bitter,
Yarlington Mill, Kingston Black, Ashmeads Kernel and Foxwhelp from
Sonoma, and one year when they were unable to fill an order in the
spring for a particular variety we had reserved the previous fall, they
both refunded our money and sent a 2 year old tree of another cider
variety completely free! We have also bought rootstock and scion wood
from them, and given the fact that we were complete grafting novices
when we started, the fact that any of them took at all (I think we're
batting about 30%) is a testament to the quality of the raw material.
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Kathy Hutchins kathy@regen.rg.iupui.edu
LOINC Database Project (317) 630-7433 (voice)
Regenstrief Institute (317) 630-6962 (fax)
http://www.mcis.duke.edu/standards/termcode/loinc.htm
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Subject: Re: Cider Digest #746, 1 June 1998
From: <ExeCamra@aol.com>
Date: Tue, 2 Jun 1998 13:32:35 EDT
In a message dated 01/06/98 23:07:01 GMT, you write:
> "Luedtke, Jim @ MIN" <jluedtke@isisys.com> wrote, _inter_alia_...
> > I was recently made a gift of Dunkertons Dry, fresh from across the
> > 'pond', and sampled it last night. It has quite a bite, that would
> > primarily be the tannin, I presume. I believe I'll have to sip it awhile
> > to form a suitable opinion of it, but definitely prefer it to most of
> > the draft styles available here...
>
You have certainly picked a good one to start with. Ivor Dunkerton
is a superb cider maker, and his Perry has just won the Perry
section of CAMRA's Champion Cider and Perry of Britain competion.
The full results were:
Cider
1st New Forest, Hants.
2nd Crones Special Vintage, Norfolk
3rd Westcroft, Somerset
Perry
1st Dunkertons, Hereford
2nd Minchew Malvern Hill, Gloucestershire
3rd Coombes, Somerset
Sean Kelleher
Cider Manager, Great British Beer Festival
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Subject: Southmeadow Fruit Gardens
From: "James Comstock" <jamesc@binary.net>
Date: Thu, 4 Jun 1998 22:38:26 -0500
I have not had any experience with Southmeadow. I have ordered trees from
Bear Creek Nursery for the last two years and have been very pleased with
the quality. Their addresses are:
Bear Creek Nursery
PO Box 411
Northport, WA 99157
BearCrek@plix.com
BearCreekNursery.com
The trees arrived when requested, were in excellent health, and had 18-24
inches of growth the first year.
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