Cider Digest #0726

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Subject: Cider Digest #726, 18 February 1998 
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Cider Digest #726                                         18 February 1998 

                 Forum for Discussion of Cider Issues 
                      Dick Dunn, Digest Janitor 

Contents: 
  Cider Varieties ("David Johnson") 
  Re: Cider variety budwood  (Ian Merwin) 
  Re: Cider Digest #721, 30 January 1998 (dennis key) 

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Subject: Cider Varieties 
From: "David Johnson" <dmjalj@inwave.com> 
Date: Sat, 14 Feb 1998 14:58:14 -0600 

I know there are cider varieties available from Southmeadow Fruit Farms. I 
think Northwoods Nursery (it might have been Raintree) also has some but I 
can't find my catalogs.But The Addresses are: 
          Northwoods Nursery 
27635 Oglesby Road 
Department: MGA97 
Canby, OR 97013-9528 
         10274.3327@compuserve.com 

 Raintree Nursery 
391 Butts Rd. 
Morton, WA 98356 
Catalog: Free 
360-496-6400, Fax: 360-496-6465 

 
Southmeadow Fruit Gardens 
Box SM 
Lakeside, MI 49116 
Catalog: Free 
616-469-2865, Fax: 616-422-2411 
    Dave Johnson 

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Subject: Re: Cider variety budwood  
From: Ian Merwin <im13@cornell.edu> 
Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 09:22:40 -0500 

Folks- 
About Greg Appleyard's website for cider variety information-The USDA Malus 
Germplasm Repository at our Cornell/Geneva NY Experiment Station has some 
bittersweet and bittertart apples among its 4000 accessions.  They have 
many of the traditional English cider varieties, including Michelin, 
Dabinett, Ellis Bitter, Ashton Bitter, Brown Snout, Brown Thorn, Filbarrel, 
Margil, Kingston Black, Foxwhelp, Somerset Redstreak, Medaille d'Or, 
Tremlett's Bitter, Hereford Redstreak, Chisel Jersey, Yarlington Mill, 
Bramley's seedling, etc.  Most of these are available as budwood, by 
arrangement with Steven A. King (315) 787-2339.  This is a good time of 
year to obtain dormant budsticks for bench grafting.  Bear Creek Nursery, 
in Northport, Washington also has many of these varieties for sale as 
benchgrafts or one-year budded trees. They already offer a good selection 
of "antique" dessert apples, and are interested in collecting and 
propagating hard cider varieties. 
In my opinion, the most serious lack of budwood now is the hundreds of 
excellent French and Spanish bittersweet and bittertart varieties. Perhaps 
someone in Quebec has some of the French varieties? I have been working 
with the Malus Repository collection curator to expand our collection of 
these varieties, but it is a slow process that involves prolonged 
quarantine of all imported plant materials, and a considerable amount of 
red tape.  In the meantime, we can all help to determine which of the 
traditional European cider apple varieties will survive our formidable 
winters and pest complex in America, and which of our traditional American 
cider varieties are best for hard cider blends.  It seems certain that some 
of the millions of newly recruited cider drinkers in Canada and the US will 
progress through this first generation of carbonated, artificially flavored 
and sweetened mass market ciders into the more subtle but enduring 
pleasures of tannic, dry, full bodied varietal ciders that usually require 
bittersweets and bittertarts.  When that time comes, we need to have those 
apples growing! 

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Ian Merwin (im13@cornell.edu) 
Associate Professor of Pomology 
118 Plant Science Bldg. 
Dept. of Fruit and Vegetable Science 
Cornell University, Ithaca, NY, 14853 
Tel. 607-255-1777 
Fax. 607-255-0599 

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Subject: Re: Cider Digest #721, 30 January 1998 
From: dennis key <dione@unm.edu> 
Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 14:29:04 -0700 (MST) 

An update on the cranberry mel:  I racked and added one quart of 
knudsen's Just Cranberry."  Very tart!  It took two TBS of CaCO3 to 
bring the pH up from 2.8 to 4.0.  It's still fermenting merrily! 

Never Thirst, 
Dione 

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