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Subject: Cider Digest #668, 1 June 1997
From: cider-request@talisman.com
Cider Digest #668 1 June 1997
Forum for Discussion of Cider Issues
Dick Dunn, Digest Janitor
Contents:
Granny Smith (kathy)
Re: Cider Digest archives (Michael L. Hall)
Fire Blight Risk (Richard Anderson)
Cider Apple Economics (Terry Maloney)
Cider Economics (Terry Maloney)
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Subject: Granny Smith
From: kathy <kbooth@scnc.waverly.k12.mi.us>
Date: Sun, 25 May 1997 20:44:42 -0500
After the sterling recommendation for Woodchuck Granny Smith, I rushed
out to get a 6pak to confirm the opinion. Well, it tasted much like
Granny Smith apples and when offered to my neighbors along with
Woodchuck Dark and Dry, the GS was preferred. I won't put it up as my
favorite commercial cider but it was better than many of the sugared,
caramelized competition.
Wassail, jim booth, ceo of boo-the-bum cidery, lansing, mi
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Subject: Re: Cider Digest archives
From: hall@galt.c3.lanl.gov (Michael L. Hall)
Date: Tue, 27 May 1997 11:05:01 -0600
Diana writes and asks about the Cider Digest Archives. I wonder if
they could be set up like the Mead, Homebrew Digest, and JudgeNet
archive sites, particularly with the neato-keen search engine
http://hubris.engin.umich.edu:8080/cgi-bin/dothread
that's on Spencer Thomas's beer page:
http://realbeer.com/spencer/
That would be ideal. While we're at it, how about adding the lambic
digest and the MALTS-L list, too?
I know this would be a lot of work, and I certainly don't expect it
to happen tomorrow, but it might be a good idea to keep this in
mind for the future...
- -Mike
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Subject: Fire Blight Risk
From: Richard Anderson <BaylonAnderson@compuserve.com>
Date: Tue, 27 May 1997 14:14:54 -0400
Timothy Smith at Washington State University has a developed a Fire Blight
Risk Estimation Model based on several criteria. You can get this
information by sending him a self addressed envelope to :
Timothy Smith
Washington State University
400 Washington
Wenatchee, WN 98801
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Subject: Cider Apple Economics
From: Terry Maloney <westcounty@ibm.net>
Date: Wed, 28 May 1997 17:42:16 -0700
> The point I want to make is that people who want grow traditional cider
> apples will have to produce a good cider to get a fair return on their
> efforts. I am looking for business model which will provide this.
> The problem with creating a
> commercial cider from cider apples involves cost of production of the
> fruit.
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Subject: Cider Economics
From: Terry Maloney <westcounty@ibm.net>
Date: Sat, 31 May 1997 08:21:34 -0700
As Richard and Terrence have pointed out, the cost of apples in making a
quality cider is going to be higher than using concentrate. Another big
factor driving up the cost of using fresh-pressed apples is the limited
season. Even a well stored apple starts losing its fruitiness and its
pH starts going up while in storage. We have found that we can't press
much later than. February and still come up with a quality cider. That
means all our cider for the year has to be made in a five month period.
We need twice as much capacity and carry nearly twice as much inventory
as a same-sized maker using concentrate.
I think that for quality cider to make it, there is going to have to be
a seperate market segment from six-pack draft ciders, with a seperate
package. While cider is like beer in its alcohol level and benefits
like beer from carbonation, it's like wine in that it's made from fruit
with all of the complexity and variability that fruit brings. Cider is a
seperate beverage from the two and stands on its own. Does anybody have
any ideas on a package that reflects that?
Terry Maloney
West County Cider
Colrain, MA
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