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Subject: Cider Digest #612, 3 September 1996
From: cider-request@talisman.com
Cider Digest #612 3 September 1996
Forum for Discussion of Cider Issues
Dick Dunn, Digest Janitor
Contents:
over fermenting (yeast bite?) ("Michael L. Vezie")
sweet cider? (Pickleman)
Re: Cider Digest #611, 28 August 1996 (William Brand)
Apple Varieies ("David Martin")
press (Michael Gerholdt)
cider apples (homebrew@ix.netcom.com)
Apple + Grape = ??? (Wegeng,Donald)
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Subject: over fermenting (yeast bite?)
From: "Michael L. Vezie" <mlv@pobox.com>
Date: Wed, 28 Aug 1996 10:23:10 -0400 (EDT)
Is it possible to over-ferment cider, and thus get a yeast bite?
My guess is that if you're using a low alcohol-tolerance yeast
(like a lager yeast), it's not, because the yeast will stop
fermenting, not because it runs out of sugar, but because there
is too much alcohol.
In Christ,
Michael
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Subject: sweet cider?
From: Pickleman <wrp2@axe.humboldt.edu>
Date: Wed, 28 Aug 1996 20:24 -0700 (PDT)
Hello,
You may think that we've beat this subject to death, but I would
like to add something I don't think anyone has mentioned before. I found
this herb sold as stevia. It's supposed to be super sweet (1tsp.=1 cup
sugar) and it is non-fermentable. I haven't bought any yet, but a friend
told me about it. Any insight? I wanted to try it first, but it
wouldn't be fair to withhold info. :)
pickleman
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Subject: Re: Cider Digest #611, 28 August 1996
From: whatsontap@value.net (William Brand)
Date: Thu, 29 Aug 1996 10:06:49 -0500
Dick...I publish What's On Tap, a newsletter covering craft beer, but in
the last year I've gotten very interested in cider and, among other things
(being an inveterate list maker) I've begun compiling a listing of all the
commercial cider makers in the U.S. A year ago, that was easy. Today, it's
harder. There are some neat people making cider out there, farmers with
antique apple orchards who have been making cider as a hobby for years,
city folks who have been doing the same thing in the kitchen, others who
visited the south of Englanfd or France and discovered that cider is more
than apple juice _ as well as the inevitable entrepreneurs who want to be
tomorrow's Jim Koch of cider.
Anyway, I'm looking for names, addresses, phone numbers, if
possible of commercial or soon-to-be commercial cidermakers. Also, will
send (no charge) anyone who asks my listings so far.
Thanks. Bill Brand/What's On Tap/Berkeley, CA.
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Subject: Apple Varieies
From: "David Martin" <David.&.Christina.Martin@magna.com.au>
Date: Fri, 30 Aug 1996 15:32:43 +0000
Hi All
I've been thinking of putting in a coupple of apple trees for cider
making purposes.
Do any of you out there know of any good varieties (that are
available in Australia)? I have heard that a mix of eating apples and
crab apples makes a good cider too. Has anyone else heard this? I
have a crab abble tree that produces lots of fruit and there's only
so much crab apple jelly a man can eat ;-)
Cheers
David Martin
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Subject: press
From: Michael Gerholdt <gerholdt@ait.fredonia.edu>
Date: Sat, 31 Aug 96 11:38:22 -0500
- -- [ From: Michael Gerholdt * EMC.Ver #2.5.02 ] --
I have a vertical hydraulic log splitter that sits behind a tractor.
Seems like it would be very easy to develop a press that uses this for
pressure. Anyone done anything of the sort or have plans for such a thing?
I'd like to make a press what would use the splitter; I'd just place whole
apples in the fabric package (what's it called) instead of pulverizing first
I've seen it done that way and it looked like it was working just fine.
Any reason not to do that? What sort of fabric is best for this task ... a
canvas?
- --
pmg
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Subject: cider apples
From: homebrew@ix.netcom.com
Date: Mon, 2 Sep 1996 15:34:58 -0700
Its Labor day. We were traveling the southern areas of our great state of
Michigan in search of the best cider apples. Yes, there are orchards that
tend Roxbury Russets, Cox's Orange Pippins, Kingston Black, Winesaps and on.
One has to look HARD but they are available. So, upon stopping at the Fenn
Valley winery (anyone had Fenn Vally Wine????), we picked up a brochure
regarding Tree-Mendus Fruit farms in Eau Claire, Michigan. They list a web
site as follows: http://park.org/Pavilions/FoodAndMarkets. Careful of the
capitol letters, UNIX I believe. Anyhoo, these people will ship apples
anywhere and will accept VISA and MC. Bonus. We called and the prices are
a bit steep i.e. $1.28/lb. approx. Order number is 1-800-957-4735 except
Tuesday. Finally, standard disclaimer - I have no connection with these
people, never been there, but I am going to check them out this fall for
those certain apples.
Kevin Sprague, Grand Rapids, MI - Have planted 50 trees. 50 more next year.
Hope to be in business in a couple of years. Cheers. Rat and Pond Cider Co.
230052, GR, MI 49523
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Subject: Apple + Grape = ???
From: Donald_Wegeng@xn.xerox.com (Wegeng,Donald)
Date: Tue, 3 Sep 1996 06:41:24 PDT
I have the good fortune of living in an area that produces both apples
and wine grapes. I was thinking about making a champagne like
beverage based on a blend of apple and wine grape juice. I have
access to juice from champagne grapes, which I would blend in a 1:1
ratio with cider made from dessert apples (the grape juice ought to
substitute for the other types apples, right?).
Before I jump into this, I thought I would consult with the experts on
this list to learn if anyone has tried this before. I could not find
any discussion about blending apples and grapes in any of my cider
books. Any comments or suggestions would be appreciated.
Thanks,
/Don
donald_wegeng@xn.xerox.com
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