Cider Digest #0200

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Subject:      Tannin 
Date:         Thu, 15 Oct 92 17:37:18 CDT 
From: Darren Evans-Young <DARREN@UA1VM.UA.EDU> 

I've been told I should add tannin to my cider. The Zymurgy article 
on cider states that tannin gives the cider backbone and structure. 
My cider has already started fermenting (6 hour lag time!). 
Can I add this tannin later with a little pasteurized apple juice? 
How late can I add the tannin powder? 

Darren 

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Date: 15 Oct 92 16:50:00 PST 
From: John Fitzgerald <johnf@ccgate.sandiegoca.NCR.COM> 
Subject: apple cider vs. apple juice 

 
Ok, if you can't tell by my questions, I'm kinda new at this apple stuff. 
What I'm wondering is, what is the difference between apple juice and apple 
cider (I'm talking about the kids-stuff cider you can buy at the grocery 
store, not the hard cider that we are all trying to perfect).  Are they made 
using different blends of apples?  Does it matter which is used for a base 
for hard cider (of course it has to be unmodified with  
preservatives/additives)? 

On a side note, now that kiwi fruit is on sale for dirt cheap, does the idea  
of some apple-kiwi cider appeal to anybody?  Or should I just stick to eating  
the little limeys by themselves, and wash them down with some good cider? 

Any input would be appreciated, email or post. 

John. 

john.fitzgerald@sandiegoca.ncr.com 
        or 
johnf@ccgate.sandiegoca.ncr.com 

 
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Date: Fri, 16 Oct 92 8:08:46 EDT 
From: pry@matrx.matrix.com (Paul Young) 
Subject: Cloudy/clear 

 
I've nearly finished my first batch of cider and I have some questions.  It's 
been fermenting about 1 week now, and the cider is nearly done.  My question 
is, will the cider clear up on its own?  How long will it take?  I started 
with freshly pressed cider (unfiltered) and after the 1 week of fermentation, 
it is still cloudy.  Do I need to filter it?  I have noticed that some stuff 
is settling to the bottom of the fermenter.  Another question, I'm going to 
sweeten it up when it's finished (cane sugar) and add some potassium sorbate 
to arrest the fermentation.  How much sugar will it take for 2 gallons?  The 
raw cider was fortified with 2 cans of Granny Smith concentrate. 

Is there a good book on cider making that someone could recommend?  One 
with many different recipes? 

P.S. How about some experts out there posting some different recipes for us 
novices.  I've only seen a couple so far.   

Thanks, 
Paul Young 
pry@matrix.com 

 
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Date: Fri, 16 Oct 92 9:16:43 EDT 
From: roman@tix.timeplex.com (Daniel Roman) 
Subject: Re: Sweet sparkling cider 

I don't know if any of you who want sweet sparkling hard cider have 
kegging equipment or not but I'm trying an experiment this year with 
half of my batch.  Half the batch is just going to be primed and bottled 
like beer which should give me something quite tart. 

The other half I will use potassium sorbate (?) wine perservative to 
kill of the yeast, add sugar, then carbonate in my kegging equipment. 
After carbonated (artificially) I plan on putting it into bottles.  I 
plan to carbonate it a little more than I desire to make up for any loss 
during the transfer.  I'll let the list know how/if it turns out. 

My only concern is the clearing of the cider with dead yeast which would 
probably take longer than usual.  I'll probably use some speedy 
bentonite for that. 
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Date: Fri, 16 Oct 92 15:15:38 EDT 
From: Jay Hersh <hersh@expo.lcs.mit.edu> 
Subject: PLEASE NOTE 

 
Due to a death in the family I will be leaving the Cider Digest 
and Brewers Forum on autopilot. No subscribe or unsubscribe messages 
will be processed until further notice. Sorry for any inconvenience. 

        JaH 

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Hopfen und Malz, Gott erhalts 

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