Cider Digest #0169

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Subject: Cider Digest #169 Wed Sep 23 11:00:02 EDT 1992 
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 92 11:00:02 -0400 
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Cider Digest #169          Wed Sep 23 11:00:02 EDT 1992 
Forum for Discussion of Cider Issues 
Jay Hersh, Digest Coordinator 

Contents: 
  Re:  Cider Digest #168 Tue Sep 22 18:00:02 EDT 1992 (Richard Childers) 
  Re:  Cider Digest #168 Tue Sep 22 18:00:02 EDT 1992 (Aaron Birenboim) 
  Cider sterilization (David Van Iderstine) 

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Date: Tue, 22 Sep 92 15:41:09 PDT 
From: Richard Childers <rchilder@us.oracle.com> 
Subject: Re:  Cider Digest #168 Tue Sep 22 18:00:02 EDT 1992 

Please remove me from this list, Jay Hersch. This is my third request. 

- -- richard 

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         oracle data center  --  unix systems & network administration 

                    Klein flask for rent. Inquire within. 

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Date: Tue, 22 Sep 92 17:47:14 MDT 
From: abirenbo@rigel.cel.scg.hac.com (Aaron Birenboim) 
Subject: Re:  Cider Digest #168 Tue Sep 22 18:00:02 EDT 1992 

dan asked ... how do you let the camden rest... 

I put it in a carbouy with an airlock.  I dunno if this is the suggested 
method, but my yeast starter survived.  I'll let you know the taste 
results in a few months ;-) 

I have stabilized with pot. sorobate and sweetened.  works fine. 
I'd suggest either fructose or honey for sweetening.  WARNING: 
If you boil-sanitize the honey, it will have a protein break and 
cloud the cider.  i'm judt drinking clouded honey cider. 

i found fructose at the health food store.  Its really great for 
sweetening ANY fruit-flavored beverage.  I'm not kidding here... 
it also makes Cool-Aid taste MUCH BETTER!!!!!! 

  I'll sweeten with fructose next time, so i do not get that protein 
haze. 

          aaron 

 
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Date: Tue, 22 Sep 92 23:10:27 EDT 
From: localhost!davevi@uunet.UU.NET (David Van Iderstine) 
Subject: Cider sterilization 

What the hell, here's my $0.02 on cider sterilization. I've made a  
couple good batches as follows: 

Starting with 5 gallons of local, unpasteurized cider, I added 
potassium metabisulfite to sterilize it. (Campdens tablets are potassium 
sulfite. Also available is sodium metabisulfite. The wine makers I 
consulted unanimously recommended potassium metabisulfite. I don't 
really know why.) 

For a 65 ppm solution, 5 level tablespoons are added to 1 quart water 
and dissolved. Then, 1 teaspoon of solution is added per gallon of 
cider. I weighed it out, and 0.68 grams per 5 gallons cider is 65 ppm. 

I have yet to try but have been told 30 ppm is sufficient. An alternate 
method to produce that desired concentration is to add 1/8 teaspoon  
sulfite crystals to 5 gals. cider. (Opinion varied as to the optimal  
concentration to use. Somewhere between 30 and 70 was the concensus.  
I got the higher number from a chemist/brewer, so I used that one.) 

Once the sulfite was in, I put a damp cheesecloth over the carboy 
mouth, and let it stand for 2 days. After 48 hours, I added 2 packages 
(maybe rehydrated?) Red Star champagne yeast. I shook the carboy well, 
then added an airlock and let it sit. 6 rackings later (& many months) 
I added 1 cup corn sugar & bottled. It did not carbonate, was not 
sweet, and disappeared rapidly!  

Questions bit: 
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This year's batch I think I'll add honey (to taste) before I bottle  
and let it bottle-condition like that. The stuff was so clear, I question 
how much active (or even dormant) yeast is left in suspension. Does 
anybody have a guess? I'm thinking that the pre-bottling sulfiting 
you're suggesting may not even be necessary. Is the honey too fermentable, 
i.e. will all sweetness disappear? If that happens, I suppose I'd have 
a cyser, needing lengthy aging for the honey to mellow? 

Dan, what's use #2 for the kegging equipment? By the way, I grew in Ramsey, 
NJ and used to roller-skate in Woodcliff Lake. 

 
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