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Info-ParaNet Newsletters Volume I Number 610
Friday, November 13th 1992
(C) Copyright 1992 Paranet Information Service. All Rights Reserved.
Today's Topics:
It's All In Your Head 1/
Randle Claims To Have Handled Piece of Roswell Saucer!
Censored: Fincen: A Potential Threat To Privacy & Property
It's All In Your Head 1/
Randle Claims To Have Handled Piece Of Roswell Saucer!
The UFOs are coming!
Re: Ufo Crash In South Africa
George Knapp At Dfw Mufon
Roswell Revisited
On-going Cases.....
Ufo
Project "abduction"
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From: Michael.Corbin@p0.f428.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Michael Corbin)
Subject: It's All In Your Head 1/
Date: 10 Nov 92 01:23:05 GMT
> Just one comment about Ring's work. [I have read the book, BTW]
> I have heard some serious concerns expressed about his methodology. He
> seems to have relied on persons other than "percipients" to fill out
> some questionaires (i.e. attending nurses in the case of NDEs and
> relatives in the case of UFOEs). This can hardly be considered reliable
> data on which to base significant conclusions.
> Dr. Robert Baker, in his book _Hidden Memories_, devotes some time to
> Ring and his theory. It is recommended as balance for Ring's work.
Thanks for your comments. I have not read the book yet, although I intend to
in the near future. I am also interested in some material concerning "spheres"
of light and OOBE that are seemingly associated with a close UFO encounter.
Recently, I was reviewing the 1973 UFO encounter in Ohio with Larry Coyne and
found the appendix most interesting. In this report, Coyne and Healy both had
similar "body separation" episodes following the encounter and Coyne reported
holding a bluish-white sphere in his hand in a dream while a voice told him,
"The answer is in the circle." Although this sounds incredible, I must say
that from what I can gather, the Coyne case got serious treatment and was truly
unidentified. I am curious as to where Ring is trying to take his NDE vs.
Abduction theory. Any input?
Thanks,
Mike
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From: Michael.Corbin@p0.f150.n30163.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Michael Corbin)
Subject: Randle Claims To Have Handled Piece of Roswell Saucer!
Date: 10 Nov 92 01:25:00 GMT
ParaNet/MICAP News Update
ParaNet and MICAP recently sponsored an illustrated lecture titled,
ROSWELL: EYEWITNESSES REVISITED, with Kevin D. Randle, co-author of UFO
CRASH AT ROSWELL. The lecture introduced some very new and interesting
information coming from the ongoing investigation being conducted by Kevin
Randle and Don Schmitt, both special investigators with the J. Allen Hynek
Center for UFO Studies.
Randle played a tape from the original 1947 ABC radio broadcast as it broke
the story to the country that the Army Air Force had "captured" a flying
disk. This placed the audience in a first-hand, eyewitness position as
they listened to the bulletin.
Prior to the lecture, Randle, while a guest on KOA Radio's Rick Barber
show divulged for the first time that he has actually handled a piece of
the Roswell wreckage, although he would not discuss the details any
further. Randle and Schmitt feel that the only conclusion that can be
drawn from their investigation is that an extraterrestrial spacecraft
crashed in the New Mexico desert.
ParaNet will carry further information on the lecture an upcoming issue of
CONTINUUM, our official quarterly news magazine. Be sure to subscribe.
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From: Michael.Corbin@p0.f428.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Michael Corbin)
Subject: Censored: Fincen: A Potential Threat To Privacy & Property
Date: 10 Nov 92 01:38:02 GMT
* Forwarded from "Misc.Headlines"
* Originally by Rich Winkel
* Originally to All
* Originally dated 8 Nov 1992, 13:06
From: rich@pencil.cs.missouri.edu (Rich Winkel)
Date: 7 Nov 92 09:15:23 GMT
Organization: PACH
Message-ID: <1992Nov7.091523.16905@mont.cs.missouri.edu>
Newsgroups: misc.activism.progressive,misc.headlines
FINCEN: A POTENTIAL THREAT TO PRIVACY & PROPERTY
A new Treasury Department agency has been set up by the Bush Adminis-
tration to strengthen law enforcement through cross-referencing and
analysis of financial, commercial, law enforcement and intelligence
databases. The new agency is named Financial Crime Enforcement Network
or FinCEN .
FinCEN did its part for the recent Persian Gulf war effort, according to
Money Laundering Alert (MLA), a financial law enforcement newsletter
published out of Miami, Florida.
FinCEN did this by assisting another Treasury agency, the Office of
Foreign Asset Control, in their White House-assigned task of "be-
ginning the process of identifying Iraqi assets in the U.S." FinCEN
provided information that "led OFAC to freeze 11 bank accounts and
assets in California, Georgia, and New York, as well as corporate assets
and a $3.5 million real estate parcel. "
MLA continued, "The properties belonged to people suspected (emphasis
added) of being fronts for Saddam Hussein... ". Some critics consider
such seizure of property to be a denial of due process, a Sixth
Amendment right.
FinCEN obtained the information through what MLA refers to as FinCEN's
"three major databases. " The first is of "financial information and
intelligence such as that contained in the federal cash reporting
Forms 4789 and 8300. " The second contains "commercial data, such as
corporate and property ownership records from state sources." The third
holds "law enforcement case files and intelligence from the various
federal agencies." The political newsletter Washington Report, contends
that FinCEN can "invade over 100 U.S. and private financial databases,
IRS and DEA records, Customs Reports, land and real estate data. (and)
census records. "
FinCEN was established in 1990 with $13.4 million in funding. The
agency has apparently blossomed since the naming of Brian M. Bruh, a
former Deputy Assistant Commissioner of Criminal Investigation at the
IRS and chief investigator for the Tower Commission, as director in
March 1990. At that time, MLA reported that FinCEN employed 65 people,
half "detailed" by the IRS and the Customs Service. It was anticipated
that "a total staff complement of 200" would include "repre-
sentatives" from the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, an Firearms, the Secret
Service, the Postal Inspectors, the DEA, unspecified "help" from the
Defense Intelligence Agency and a "liaison" with the CIA.
The potential impact on the Fourth Amendment rights of law-abiding
citizens by a new federal agency created specifically to compile
comprehensive asset holdings data on anyone suspected of wrongdoing
should be explored by the national press.
(SSU CENSORED RESEARCHER: SCOTT SOMOHANO)
SOURCE: MONEY LAUNDERING ALERT P.O. Box 011390, Miami, FL 33101-1390
DATE-April 1991
Title:FinCEN's Financial Missiles Strike Iraq, Saddam"
AUTHOR:Charles A. Intriago, Esq.
SOURCE:Washington REPORT PO Box 10309, St. Petersburg, FL 33733
DATE:September 1991
TITLE: "Editorial"
AUTHOR:William A. Leavell
SOURCE:U.S. GENERAL Accounting Office Washington DC 20548
DATE: 3/18/91
Title: GAO/GGD-91-53 FinCEN
COMMENTS: Project Censored first read about the obscure Financial
Crimes Enforcement Network (FinCEN) in an editorial in a small publi-
cation titled Washington Report. Washington Report is a four-page
monthly newsletter published by Editors Release Service in St. Peters-
burg, Florida. The editor, William A. Leavell, warned his readers "Have
you ever heard of 'FinCEN?' No? You are not supposed to know about
'FinCEN.' Why? Because what it does is reported to violate the U.S.
Constitution's 4th Amendment guarantee of your right to privacy. "
Leavell told Project Censored that he was tipped to FinCEN by a good
source in the intelligence community he has known for many years.
Project Censored researchers discovered that FinCEN, a Treasury
Department agency, was established, with little fanfare or media
interest, in 1990 and already had played a role in the Gulf War effort.
The problem is that FinCEN potentially threatens the Fourth Amendment
rights of lawabiding citizens since it is authorized to compile
extensive financial data on anyone who is suspected of wrongdoing.
Leavell, a staunch supporter of the Bill of Rights and a virulent
opponent of censorship, believes "the FinCEN" operation is a violation
of existing law and the Constitution "and a serious invasion of privacy.
He added that information about FinCEN was made available to the major
electronic and print media but that they "elected to ignore it."
Leavell warned that "Censorship serves those in power and those who
benefit from the existing political and financial 'establishment'."
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From: Anson.Kennedy@p0.f25.n1012.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Anson Kennedy)
Subject: It's All In Your Head 1/
Date: 11 Nov 92 03:43:00 GMT
> I am curious as to where Ring is trying to take his NDE vs. Abduction
> theory. Any input?
Ring calls people who have NDEs and UFOEs "experience prone" and speculates
that this may be a "next step" in human evolution, which is why only some
people who "die" and are revived report NDEs and why only some people who
report UFO sightings also report abductions. With respect to UFOs, his
speculation is similar to that of Keith Thompson in _Angels and Aliens: UFOs
and the Mythic Imagination_.
Towards the end of his book, Thompson theorizes that abductees are like fish
pulled out of water into the air and then thrown back. The fish tells others
that "We live in WATER!" but that there is something beyond the water. His
fellow fish either ignore or ridicule him, but he knows what he saw. Someday,
he may become an amphibian and move out onto the new frontier of dry land.
Thompson speculates that abductees are human amphibians taking the first steps
out of the water of our everyday experience into something "higher."
Thompson's version is more poetic, but it echoes Ring's Omega Project.
I *hate* being a Neanderthal on my way to extinction. :-)
--- Anson
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From: Michael.Corbin@p0.f150.n30163.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Michael Corbin)
Subject: Randle Claims To Have Handled Piece Of Roswell Saucer!
Date: 11 Nov 92 19:52:00 GMT
>I've only received two issues (numbers 1 and 2). Hve there been
>any more?
With Roger's move to Boulder, the mag has been seriously delayed, but he is
now about a week away from publishing so you should see it soon.
Mike
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From: Anson.Kennedy@p0.f25.n1012.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Anson Kennedy)
Subject: The UFOs are coming!
Date: 11 Nov 92 23:14:00 GMT
The following prediction was posted on Prodigy. Sounds like it's road
trip to Montana time.
BEGIN INCLUDED MESSAGE===============================================
PRODIGY(R) interactive personal service 11/11/92 3:24 PM
HOBBIES
TOPIC: OUTDOOR ACTIVITIES
TIME: 11/11 2:37 PM
TO: ALL
FROM: TOMMY BLANN (BPCV58A)
SUBJECT: UFO-THIS WEEKEND
There will be a tremendous amount of UFO activity in the
Northern states, specifically Montana and Idaho. Many
reports will come from western Montana and eastern Idaho
when these objects come in from the North this weekend.
Reports will also come out of the Yellowstone National
Park area and Idaho Falls.
This activity will last for approximately three weeks.
Many newspapers will carry the stories. Some of the objects
will be filmed by local television stations. Researchers
will flock to these areas in hopes that they will get some
good data.
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From: Michael.Corbin@p0.f428.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Michael Corbin)
Subject: Re: Ufo Crash In South Africa
Date: 12 Nov 92 00:14:01 GMT
* Forwarded from "Alt.Alien.Visitors"
* Originally by Charles Mcgrew
* Originally to All
* Originally dated 10 Nov 1992, 12:06
From: mcgrew@dropout.rutgers.edu (Charles Mcgrew)
Date: 9 Nov 92 19:13:42 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.
Message-ID: <Nov.9.14.13.41.1992.10528@dropout.rutgers.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
g92n3258@giraffe.ru.ac.za (MR RL NICOL) writes:
Yesterday I was watching a documentary on UFO's and they
mentioned a UFO crash in S.A. Now, considering that that is
where I live, I found it rather unusual. There had been
nothing in the papers, nothing mentioned by ufologists in
S.A., and nothing on television regarding even a hint about
something crashing, let alone a UFO.
... here's some detail, from "UFOs, MJ-12, and the Government", by
Grant Cameron and T. Scott Crain, and "UFO Crash/Retrievals VI: The
Inner Sanctum", by Leonard Stringfield (both available from MUFON.) Is
this the case you're talking about?
On May 7, 1989, so the story goes (first published in "Quest
International" V9 #2, 1989, by Tony Dodd), a UFO flew over SA
airspace, and was brought down in the Kalahari Desert by two Mirage
interceptors, one armed with some sort of experimental "Thor 2 laser
canon" weapon. Recovery followed (though only after a special paint
was brought in to cover the object -- its EM effects were stalling
recovery vehicles, including a helicopter, which crashed.) The object
was later opened, and two live (non-human) occupants discovered. The
object and occupants were flown in USAF C-5's on June 23, 1989 to
Wright-Patterson AFB in Ohio (i.e. the object and occupants were
transferred from SA to US control.)
Accompanying the story (when told to some English UFOologists) was a
five page SAAF document that tells this story, along with additional
detail (20 yards wide, 9.5 yards high disk; 4-4.5 foot tall
greyish-blue occupants, etc.)
The source for all this was one James Van Greunen, who claimed to
be a captain in SAAF Counterintelligence, and who claimed to be on the
run (in South Africa) from his own government for releasing this
information, and to have over 300 more pages of secret documents in a
bank-safe in Zurich, and needed money to escape with his family to the
US, (enough money to get him out of SA was donated by various people.)
He did, after a number of adventures (once getting as far as Canada
before being deported back to England), provide another 3 pages of
stuff, which proved to be faked (xeroxing his passport and birth
certificate for seals, and pasting up the rest). Further documents
provided proved to be retyped from various sources (Bill Cooper's
"Operation Majority", Bennewitz and Lear stuff, some home-grown stuff
published by Van Greuen's local UFO group, and a photograph from
a US UFO magazine ("California UFO").
When confronted with all this, Van Greunen claimed that he got the
original (the 5-page document) information from a Captain Greer (or
Greef), who really is a Captain in the SAAF. While the original
5-page document has *not* been shown to be inauthentic; it appears
that Van Greunen concocted the rest to try and get more money, and
lend weight to his case.
Stringfield reports that Van Greunen was not the original informant
(i.e. the source of the 5-page document), JVG appears to have tried to
use the information he had (from whatever source), along with more
stuff he came up with himself, to obtain money. But the story doesn't
end there.
Henry Victorian, Stringfield reports, contacted Captain Greef in
South Africa, who rather than denying the report, instead pressed
Victorian for *his* source of the report. He (Victorian) was later
had contact with SA military people, who confirmed to Victorian that
the crash and recovery had taken place (though that some details were
incorrect -- the EM-field paint part, for instance.) Victorian also
made requests for information from NASA, US Space Command (part of
DoD), and the Naval Space Surveillance Center (part of USN) for known
objects that had reentered the atmosphere and landed in South Africa.
NASA said: The only one they had close to that date was Satellite
19942, on May 8, 1989 -- "reentered 26 April 1990 at 0115 Zulu" [this
appears to be a misprint, and they mean 1989, and launched that date,
rather than reentered -- see below], impacting 18 deg. South, 41 deg.
East, "off SE tip of South Africa".
USSC said: the only one close to that date (that USSC believed to
have actually have impacted on earth, 6 other reentering objects were
said to have had a less than 5% chance of reaching the earth) was
Satellite number 19942, International Designator 19890-032B (USSR),
common-named "FOTON 2 (rocket body)", launched 26 April, 1989,
impacted May 8, 1989, 0119 Zulu, 18 deg. South, 41.1 deg. East,
Inclination 62.8 deg.
NSSC was asked about FOTON 2, and said it was Int. Des.
1989-032-B, number 19942, launched April 26, 1989, impacted on May 8,
1989 at 1101 Zulu, and impacted at 46.6 deg. North, 15.4 deg. East.
[Note very different location and time from above.]
The recommendation of Cameron and Crain is to ignore Van Greunen's
"extra" documentation entirely, but that the 5-pager is worth study.
Timothy Good is of the opinion that the whole thing (including the
5-pager) is a fabrication, and that some of the other actors in the
case (notably Henry Victorian (aka "Henry Azadehdel")) are not to be
taken at face value either. The authors also contacted Bill Moore,
who agreed that the whole thing is pretty shaky (notably that
SDI-laser-on-a-Mirage sounds pretty odd.)
.. so, the case is a mess. On the one hand, we have a 'public'
source that is clearly discredited. On the other, we have a murky set
of other things that cannot be completely dismissed, and a document
that may or may not be real. (Both Stringfield's and Cameron and
Crain's books reproduce the document -- Cameron and Crain's exactly as
received, in Stringfield's its retyped.)
Perhaps Mr. Nicol can provide a.a.v with some more information?
(Does the SAAF have a Department of Special Investigations and
Research (DSIR)? Is there a "Valhalla AFB"? Does the SAAF have
Mirage FIIG's in its inventory? What does SAAF letterhead look like?
Does the SAAF measure things in yards and feet, or meters?)
Thanks,
Charles
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From: Michael.Corbin@p0.f428.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Michael Corbin)
Subject: George Knapp At Dfw Mufon
Date: 12 Nov 92 03:21:03 GMT
* Forwarded from "Fidonet UFO Conference"
* Originally by Gary Coulter
* Originally to All
* Originally dated 9 Nov 1992, 8:48
MUFON Metroplex, Inc. will present Mr. George Knapp, noted investigative
reporter, author and award winning documentary producer, at its next
public meeting at 8:00 pm Saturday, November 14, 1992, in the
Amphitheater at Cityplace, east of Central Expressway between Lemmon and
Haskell just north of downtown Dallas. While a reporter at KLAS-TV in
Las Vegas in 1987, Mr. Knapp investigated and publicly presented the
fantastic account of Mr. Bob Lazar, a young physicist who has publicly
admitted his involvement with the investigation of alien spacecraft on
behalf of the U.S. government. Lazar claims the craft are able to
create their own gravity, are powered by antimatter reactors, and are
fueled by a previously unknown element, dubbed "115". With
"disappearing" educational and employment records, Lazar has suffered
both personal and legal attacks that have seriously damaged his public
credibility; however, Mr. Knapp has assembled substantial evidence that
suggests Lazar's claims are truthful.
During the last several years, numerous eye witnesses have testified
that the U.S. military has been storing, studying, and testing strange
aircraft at a top secret base in a hidden, desolate corner of the Nevada
Desert known variously as "Area 51", "Dreamland", or just "The Ranch".
While requesting anonymity for fear of reprisals, most of these
witnesses insist that some of the aircraft being studied are of alien
origin, constructed of unidentified materials by an extraterrestrial
intelligence. Come and meet George Knapp, award winning producer of
"UFOs: The Best Evidence" and other TV documentaries, as he present the
latest evidence and developments concerning secret government testing,
disinformation cover-ups, and Bob Lazar, including photos and videos of
incredible crafts in flight, at 8:00 pm Saturday, November 14th, in the
Amphitheater at Cityplace, on the north bound access road of Central
Expressway between Lemmon and Haskell. Tickets are $10.00 for
members, $12.00 for nonmembers, and $6.00 for students and senior
citizens with current ID. Doors open to the public at 7:15 pm, tickets
and Memberships are available at the door, and additional information
may be obtained by calling the HOTLINE number at (214) 497-1505.
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From: Michael.Corbin@p0.f428.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Michael Corbin)
Subject: Roswell Revisited
Date: 13 Nov 92 03:32:01 GMT
* Forwarded from "Fidonet UFO Conference"
* Originally by Don Allen
* Originally to All
* Originally dated 10 Nov 1992, 6:54
* Forwarded from "MUFONET"
* Originally by John Komar
* Originally to All
* Originally dated 10 Nov 1992, 3:13
MUFONET-BBS GROUP - MUFONET-BBS NETWORK
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ROSWELL ERA REVISITED
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3 [Provided by Oklahoma MUFON] 3
3 [From the Norman Transcript, Oklahoma] 3
3 3
3 July 4, 1947 3
3 3
3 MORE FLYING DISCS REPORTED 3
3 3
3 by United press 3
3 3
3A flight of "flying saucers" has been reported in eastern 3
3Canada but reaction there to the mystery missiles reported 3
3earlier in nine states of the United States was "they're 3
3probably leftovers from the mad hatter's tea party minus 3
3cups, of course." 3
3 3
3Dr. and Mrs. C.K. Gunn and two friends said they saw strange3
3objects "traveling at great speed high in the sky" last 3
3Tuesday near their home at Summerside on Prince Edward 3
3island. 3
3 3
3Roland Phillipson, one of the four, described the objects as3
3shapeless, but glistening in the sunlight. 3
3 3
3Father Burke-Gaffney, astronomer and dean of engineering at 3
3St. Mary's college at Halifax, said the saucers were 3
3"outside the realm of astronomy." Another Canadian source 3
3said "It's probably a matter for witch doctors." 3
3 3
3Army research experts in Washington said they can't explain 3
3the saucers reported whizzing across the sky by persons in 3
3eight states, but they said they are investigating. 3
3 3
3An Albuquerque, New Mexico Chamber of Commerce official, Max3
3Hood, reported he saw "a disk-like bluish object following a3
3zig-zag path in the northwestern sky" over New Mexico on 3
3July 01. 3
3 3
3Other "saucers" previously were reported seen over a Navajo 3
3Indian reservation in northwestern New Mexico, and over 3
3Gallup, near Silver city, Sante Fe, Elephant Butte and 3
3other points in the state. 3
3 3
3A U.S. meteorologist, E.E. Unger of Louisville, said he saw 3
3a circular object flying through the air Tuesday night as he3
3left a neighborhood theater. He said it was moving about 3
3100 miles an hour, and giving off an orange light. 3
3Mrs. Louis Goldstein, wife of a deputy sheriff at Monterrey,3
3California, reported she saw one of the "flying saucers" or 3
3discs at 7:45 a.m. (PST) today while looking out a window of3
3her home by Monterrey airport. "I know people will say I'm 3
3crazy, but I saw a quite-rounded flying object, not 3
3circular, with a red glow on one edge." Mrs. Goldstein said.3
3"I saw it for 10 or 15 seconds - then, suddenly it 3
3vanished." 3
3 3
3Airlines reported no planes in flight in the area at the 3
3time. The only plane at the airport was grounded. 3
3The projectiles, variously described as "too fast for an 3
3airplane and not fast enough for a falling star," "not 3
3moving at all," and "traveling at great speed," were 3
3reported seen again Thursday night streaking over Denver. 3
3 3
3It was the third report of the "saucers" this week, while 3
3persons in Idaho, Oregon, California, New Mexico and other 3
3states reported seeing various versions of the unexplained 3
3projectiles last week. 3
3 3
3Mrs. L.M. Wagoner and her eight-year-old son of Sherman, 3
3Texas reported they saw a flying disc about 7 p.m. Sunday 3
3while traveling between Dallas and Corsicana. Mrs. Wagoner 3
3said the disc, about the size of a man's hat, was traveling 3
3northward and disappeared in a few seconds. 3
3 3
3A Dallas man, Tom Dean, said he and his wife and daughter 3
3saw a disc-shaped object "going like blue blazes from 3
3northeast to southwest at cloud level" Tuesday while 3
3traveling between Dallas and Fort Worth. Dean said it 3
3resembled a flattened-out balloon and was in sight for 12 3
3or 15 seconds. 3
3 3
3A shiny disc, traveling about 150 miles per hour, was seen 3
3over El Paso, Texas, at 3:30 p.m. MST, Sunday, June 22, 3
3(NOTE: before the Kenneth Arnold sighting) by Dr. G. Oliver 3
3Dickson, an optometrist. He said it was shaped a little 3
3like a blimp, coming to a point at each end. The sun's rays3
3were not reflected on it, he added. 3
3 3
3Lt. Gov. Donald S. Whitehead of Idaho said today that he saw3
3a strange comet-like object hanging high in the western sky 3
3on June 24. That was the day Kenneth Arnold, Boise, Idaho, 3
3first reported seeing the projectiles over southeastern 3
3Washington. 3
3 3
3Their stories varied. Arnold had estimated the projectiles 3
3speed at 1,200 miles an hour. Whitehead said the objects he3
3and three other witnesses saw "didn't move, but just seemed 3
3to go below the horizon with the rotation of the earth." 3
3At Denver Henry Martin and Walter Harrod said they caught a 3
3brief glimpse of a group of "bright objects" flying at about3
35,000 feet Thursday night. Martin said they looked like 3
3coffee can cups. They were traveling in a southwesterly 3
3direction, he said. 3
3 3
3State Highway Patrol Sgt. David Menary, of San Francisco's 3
3Golden Gate Bridge detail, reported seeing a dozen bright 3
3metal objects "about the size of a football" whiz over San 3
3Francisco Bay June 24 and fall into the sea. 3
3 3
3Dick Rankin, former Portland, Oregon flyer, said he saw the 3
3discs high over Bakersfield, California, going from 200 to 3
3400 miles an hour June 23. There were ten of them in a 3
3formation flying north, he said. 3
3 3
3At Bath, South Carolina, Jack Reams reported that last week 3
3he saw a disc 12 inches in diameter, giving off a small 3
3weird light as it whizzed through the sky at a tremendous 3
3speed. 3
3 3
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From: Michael.Corbin@p0.f428.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Michael Corbin)
Subject: On-going Cases.....
Date: 13 Nov 92 03:32:02 GMT
* Forwarded from "Fidonet UFO Conference"
* Originally by Don Allen
* Originally to All
* Originally dated 10 Nov 1992, 6:55
* Forwarded from "MUFONET"
* Originally by John Komar
* Originally to All
* Originally dated 10 Nov 1992, 2:17
MUFONET-BBS GROUP - MUFONET-BBS NETWORK
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CURRENT CASES......
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(From time to time, current, on-going cases which are being
investigated by MUFON Field Investigators will be posted.)
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3Oklahoma MUFON: 3
3 3
39/15/92 CALUMET STEER FOUND MUTILATED 3
3 3
3The Canadian County Sheriff's Department is investigating 3
3the mutilation death of a single head of cattle near 3
3Calumet. Deputies reported that a woman living about 2 3
3miles west of Calumet found the hereford feeder steer dead 3
3in a field early Sunday afternoon. 3
3 3
3The steer was one of several owned by an Okarche man who 3
3grazed them on the property. Investigators speculate the 3
3animal may have been killed by disgruntled hunters who have 3
3been thrown off the woman's property in the past. The 3
3mutilation might have been an attempt to disguise the deed 3
3as some kind of satanic ritual. 3
3 3
3Xxxxxxx Xxxxxxx also provided the following information: 3
3 3
3"About 15 years ago my husband was alive. He farmed 4 miles3
3west of Calumet town and he told me about finding circles in3
3the pasture." 3
3 3
3"I really don't know what year it was because he didn't tell3
3when he first found them. I had a U.F.O. book which had 3
3some pictures of grass circles in it. These were not large 3
3circles like the one's in the wheat fields we have been 3
3reading about the last few years. I showed them to him and 3
3he said they were like the ones he saw in his grass pasture.3
3This was back about the time they were finding a lot of 3
3mutilated cattle in Canadian County." 3
3 3
3 3
3(NOTE: although the animal mutilation could be the work of 3
3local people, this case uncovered an interesting fact, the 3
3discovery of crop circles a number of years ago.) 3
3 3
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From: Mike.Keithly@p0.f608.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Mike Keithly)
Subject: Ufo
Date: 13 Nov 92 04:17:01 GMT
* Forwarded from "FidoNet UFO Echo"
* Originally by Sidney Csoke
* Originally to All
* Originally dated 11 Nov 1992, 0:14
THE DISAPPEARANCE OF DELTA SIERRA JULIET
1978
Of all sightings in Australia none has generated so much
worldwide attention and concern than that of Fredrick Valentich,
a twenty year old flying instructor who disappeared in his Cessna
182 aircraft shortly after reporting a UFO sighting over Bass
Strait near Cape Otway, on a flight from Moorabin, Victoria, to
King Island, Tasmania on October 21/1978.
Forty-seven minutes after taking off from Moorabin Airport,
Melbourne, at 6:19 pm, Valentich reported seeing an unidentified
aircraft to the Melbourne Flight Service Unit Controller, Steve
Robey. The official transcript of the recorded transmission
between the Cessna (registration VH-DSJ) and Melbourne Flight
Service Unit (FSU) is provided here. The following
communications between the aircraft and Melbourne FSU were
recorded from 19:06 hours.
TIME FROM TEXT
1906:14 VH-DSJ MELBOURNE this is DELTA SIERRA JULIET is
there any known traffic below five thousand
:23 FSU DELTA SIERRA JULIET no known traffic
:26 VH-DSJ DELTA SIERRA JULIET I am seems to be a large
aircraft below five thousand
:46 FSU D D DELTA SIERRA JULIET what type of
aircraft is it
:50 VH-DSJ DELTA SIERRA JULIET I cannot affirm it is
four bright it seems to me like landing
lights
1907:04 FSU DELTA SIERRA JULIET
:32 VH-DSJ MELBOURNE this is DELTA SIERRA JULIET the
aircraft just passed over me at least a
thousand feet above
:43 FSU DELTA SIERRA JULIET roger and it is a large
aircraft confirm
:47 VH-DSJ er unknown due to the speed of its traveling
is there any air force aircraft in the
vicinity
:57 FSU DELTA SIERRA JULIET no known aircraft in the
vicinity
1908:18 VH-DSJ MELBOURNE it's approaching now from due east
towards me
:28 FSU DELTA SIERRA JULIET
:42 // open microphone for two seconds //
:49 VH-DSJ DELTA SIERRA JULIET it seems to me that he's
playing some sort of game he's flying over
me to three times at a time at speeds I
could not identify
1909:02 FSU DELTA SIERRA JULIET roger what is your
actual level
:06 VH-DSJ my level is four and a half thousand four
five zero zero
:11 FSU DELTA SIERRA JULIET and confirm you cannot
identify the aircraft
:14 VH-DSJ affirmative
:18 FSU DELTA SIERRA JULIET roger standby
:28 VH-DSJ MELBOURNE DELTA SIERRA JULIET it's not an
aircraft it is // open microphone for two
seconds //
:46 FSU DELTA SIERRA JULIET can you describe the er
aircraft
:52 VH-DSJ DELTA SIERRA JULIET as it's flying past it's
a long shape // open microphone for three
seconds // cannot identify more than that it
has such speed // open microphone for three
seconds // before me right now Melbourne
1910:07 FSU DELTA SIERRA JULIET roger and how large
would er object be
:20 VH-DSJ DELTA SIERRA JULIET MELBOURNE it seems like
it's stationary what I'm doing right now is
orbiting and the the thing is just orbiting
on top of me also it's got a green light and
sort of metallic like it's all shiny on the
outside
:43 FSU DELTA SIERRA JULIET
:48 VH-DSJ DELTA SIERRA JULIET // open microphone for
five seconds // it's just vanished
:57 FSU DELTA SIERRA JULIET
1911:03 VH-DSJ MELBOURNE would you know what kind of
aircraft I've got is it a type of military
aircraft
:08 FSU DELTA SIERRA JULIET confirm the er aircraft
just vanished
:14 VH-DSJ say again
:17 FSU DELTA SIERRA JULIET is the aircraft still
with you
:23 VH-DSJ DELTA SIERRA JULIET it's a nor // open
microphone for two seconds // now
approaching from the south-west
:37 FSU DELTA SIERRA JULIET
:52 VH-DSJ DELTA SIERRA JULIET the engine is rough
idling I've got it set at twenty three
twenty four and the thing is coughing
1912:04 FSU DELTA SIERRA JULIET roger what are your
intentions
:09 VH-DSJ my intentions are ah to go to King Island ah
Melbourne that strange aircraft is hovering
on top of me again // two seconds open
microphone // it is hovering and it's not an
aircraft
:22 FSU DELTA SIERRA JULIET
:28 VH-DSJ DELTA SIERRA JULIET MELBOURNE // 17 seconds
open microphone //
:49 FSU DELTA SIERRA JULIET MELBOURNE
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From: Michael.Corbin@p0.f428.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Michael Corbin)
Subject: Project "abduction"
Date: 13 Nov 92 16:38:01 GMT
* Forwarded from "Fidonet UFO Conference"
* Originally by Don Allen
* Originally to All
* Originally dated 12 Nov 1992, 1:54
* Forwarded from "MUFONET"
* Originally by John Komar
* Originally to All
* Originally dated 12 Nov 1992, 0:38
Mutual UFO Network (MUFON) - MUFONET-BBS Network
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PROJECT: ABDUCTION REPORT
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PURPOSE: The obtaining and compilation of Abduction Cases.
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PERSONS/ORGANIZATIONS INVOLVED:
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Budd Hopkins, Dr. David M. Jacobs, Mutual UFO Network (MUFON).
This is a message with an extraordinary request for you.
In 1964 the National Investigations Committee on Aerial
Phenomena (NICAP) issued a compendium of information about
UFOs called "THE UFO EVIDENCE". This enormously influential
and useful volume drew together the various aspects of
sightings and witnesses into a systematic and powerful
testament to the reality of UFOs. It was used to educate
congressmen and the public alike and it helped change the
direction of UFO research.
Now we have the opportunity to proceed with a project
that promises to be even more powerful and influential. Budd
Hopkins and Dr. David Jacobs are project directors, in
participation with The Mutual UFO Network (MUFON), of a major
effort to bring together the complexity and variety of the
abduction phenomenon. The project calls for a compilation of
abduction cases from around the country investigated by as
many UFO and abduction researchers as possible. It is hoped
that new patterns will be identified, new questions can be
asked, and new directions for research can be developed. A
compendium of this type can provide authoritative evidence of
the reality of the phenomenon for UFO researchers, scientists,
members of the therapeutic community, and skeptics.
Obviously this type of endeavor depends on the
cooperation of the entire UFO research community. Without
your help it cannot be done. The time has come now to work
together in a cooperative effort for the good of UFO research.
It is only together that we can make substantial headway into
deciphering the mysteries of this most important phenomenon.
Both Budd Hopkins and Dr. David Jacobs will be contributing
their cases and I hope that you will want to make your own
contribution so that you can be part of this historic
undertaking.
Additionally, those of you who have had an abduction
experience, or are aware of any person or persons who have had
an abduction experience, are requested to also become involved
in this endeavor. Any information you deem to remain
confidential will remain so, as you will be dealing with
persons of very high professionalism and credibility.
Here is a short biography of the principles involved with
this project:
Budd Hopkins - Began researching abduction cases in 1975, is
the author of a number of books, research papers and articles,
among which are "Missing Time", "Intruders", and his newest
book "A Crack In The Universe - The Psychological Impact of
UFO Encounters". Involved with encounter groups. He is also
on the staff of The Mutual UFO Network (MUFON)
Dr. David M. Jacobs - holder of a B.A., M.A., and a Ph.D.,
author of a number of books, research papers and articles,
including the book "The UFO Controversy in America". He's also
a contributer to the Academic American Encyclopedia. He is
a Consultant with The Mutual UFO Network (MUFON).
The Mutual UFO Network (MUFON) - A scientific organization, in
existence for over 22 years, involved in the UFO phenomenon.
It is a world-wide organization, and has a staff and
consultants from many areas of scientic pursuit and knowledge.
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[Note: Signatures of Budd Hopkins and Dr. David Jacobs appear
on the original document to follow.]
continued.....
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