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Info-ParaNet Newsletters Volume I Number 556
Thursday, May 28th 1992
(C) Copyright 1992 Paranet Information Service. All Rights Reserved.
Today's Topics:
Aussie UFOs
Aussie UFOs
Article: Earth Moves In An Extra-terrestrial Way.
Re: Article: Earth Moves In An Extra-terrestrial Way.
"Anza UFO" video
Gulf Breeze
"anza Ufo" Video
Re: Jacobs' book
Adam & Eve
Adam & Eve
Belgium
Ufo Related Shows
Re: Article: Earth Moves In An Extra-terrestrial Way.
Re: Article: Earth Moves In An Extra-terrestrial Way.
Re: Ufo Related Shows
Re: GULF BREEZE ROAD FL
Re: GULF BREEZE ROAD FL
Re: Ufo Related Shows
Re: Belgium
Ufo Related Shows
Re: Belgium
Belgium
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From: John.Hicks@f29.n363.z1.FIDONET.ORG (John Hicks)
Subject: Aussie UFOs
Date: 20 May 92 00:24:03 GMT
> reports are due to aircraft and helicopters flying around. Other than
> that, there is a (unconfirmed) report of a large meterorite crashing
> on earth.
Hmmm....that _is_ a little complicated. Good luck!
jbh
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From: Don.Allen@f29.n363.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Don Allen)
Subject: Aussie UFOs
Date: 21 May 92 03:09:05 GMT
VG> and helicopters flying around. Other than that, there is a
VG> (unconfirmed) report of a large meterorite crashing
VG> on earth. We'll let you know when, and if, we receive any
VG> further reports. What we know for sure is that US sailors
I know you said it was unconfirmed but I'd be interested in knowing
where this alleged meteorite hit, if anything does come of it.
Thanks!
Don
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From: Michael.Corbin@p0.f428.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Michael Corbin)
Subject: Article: Earth Moves In An Extra-terrestrial Way.
Date: 22 May 92 08:34:00 GMT
* Forwarded from "Alt.Alien.Visitors"
* Originally from Sean Eaton
* Originally dated 05-20-92 12:11
From: warlock@spuddy.uucp (Sean Eaton)
Date: 19 May 92 20:06:15 GMT
Organization: Spuddy's Public Usenet Domain
Message-ID: <1992May19.200615.12059@spuddy.uucp>
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
This is an article from THE TIMES today, Tuesday 19th May.
The rather jocular style of the reporter suggests that he
has not been abducted himself :-)
EARTH MOVES IN AN EXTRA-TERRESTRIAL WAY.
From CHARLES BREMNER in NEW YORK.
When it comes to studying space, American universities have
notched up a fine record, but eyebrows are being raised over the
latest enthusiasm of a handful of academics: the abduction of
earthlings by extra-terrestrial aliens.
At issue is the question whether a Harvard psychiatrist and
professors from Philadelphia and the Massachusetts Institute
of Technology have taken leave of their ivory towers in giving
credence to the belief shared by thousands of Americans, that
flying saucers have visited their suburbs and beamed them on
board, for some intergalactic hanky-panky.
John Mack, of Harvard Medical School, David Jacobs, a
historian from Temple University, and David Pritchard, a
physicist at MIT, are the most prominent among a group which
thinks there must be more than fantasy behind the extraordinarily
similar accounts of alien kidnapping given by citizens from all
backgrounds, races and professions. The most celebrated report
came from Michael Shea, a government lawyer in Washington.
According to reputable surveys, one in every 50 Americans thinks
they have received the attentions of visiting aliens.
By curious coincidence, the aliens are usually described as
diminutive, big-headed, dish-eyed, smooth-skinned creatures who
arrive in beams of intense light. But going beyond this
stereotype, the accounts usually feature some form of physical
examination in a cosmic operating theatre. This often involves
sexual manipulation, with women saying they had been impregnated
and men saying their semen had been extracted.
Dr Mack, who featured last weekend in fictional form in a CBS
television drama, is organising an abduction conference in
Massachusetts next month. Mr Jacobs, who teaches a university
course called "UFOs in US Society", has been promoting on TV his
book "Secret Life: Firsthand Accounts of UFO Abductions". He
believes the aliens are engaged in "a programme of systematic
exploitation of one species over another, in which people are
mined - or farmed, if you will - over and over and over again,
over the course of their lives, from infancy to adulthood."
Dr Mack, who has hepled 40 patients overcome abduction trauma,
says he retains an open mind and cannot dismiss the phenomenon.
"I don't have an explanation. But I know they've undergone a
powerful sense of being intruded upon and traumatised," he
said recently. Mr Pritchard said in THE WALL STREET JOURNAL
last week that the CBS mini-series could prompt a mass recall of
alien experience. "I think it's a disaster in the making," he
said.
Critics, who come from the "orthodox" wing of the UFO fraternity
as well as the medical profession, say there are simple explanations.
All the "abducted" recall the details of their experiences under
hypnosis. They are probably mingling personal trauma, usually
abuse during childhood, with Hollywood-born fantasies suggested by
their questioner.
[EOB]
Sean Eaton. UseNet access: +44 203 638780
warlock%spuddy@uknet.ac.uk or as_m332@titan.kingston.ac.uk
"The phantoms of 3000 years cry as the dead leaves spin" - Jethro Tull
"The Gods: why do they always trick me ?"- Ulysses 31
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From: Michael.Corbin@p0.f428.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Michael Corbin)
Subject: Re: Article: Earth Moves In An Extra-terrestrial Way.
Date: 22 May 92 08:51:00 GMT
* Forwarded from "Alt.Alien.Visitors"
* Originally from Steve Gamble X3293
* Originally dated 05-21-92 12:21
From: sgamble@crc.ac.uk (Steve Gamble x3293)
Date: 20 May 92 15:30:36 GMT
Organization: MRC Human Genome Mapping Project Resource Centre, Harrow, UK
Message-ID: <1992May20.153036.889@crc.ac.uk>
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
In article relayed from TIMES, Sean Eaton quotes :
"According to reputable surveys, one in every 50 Americans thinks
they have received the attentions of visiting aliens."
This figure seems to me to be a little fanciful.
If we consider just the population of the United States of America
(forget about all the other Americans like Canadians, Mexicans,
Brazilians etc for now)
I believe that the USA population is about 250 million
So 1 in 50 would be 5 million people
If we consider that UFOs seriously started
around 1947, call that 50 years to allow for a
few reports before then
That means that in ONE year, from the USA alone
there are 100,000 abductions
around 2,000 per week
or 280 per day
Given that a typical abduction experience is reported to be
about one and half hours that means at best one 'craft'
could make about 12 abductions per day.
That would mean that over 20 craft would be required just to
cover the USA working 24hours per day every day for the past
50 years. And that does not even allow for people that have
had multiple abductions.
Also this figure of 20 full time craft dealing with abductions
does not allow any time for them making crop circles or
cattle mutilation or any of the other phenomena attributed to
aliens.
A fairly constant result from a number of studies is that between
90 and 95 percent of UFOs reported can be explained as natural
phenomena, misidentifications etc. Even if all the maximum remaining
10 percent turned out to be these alien craft then there should be
over 3000 UFO reports each day from the USA alone.
If the population of the world as a whole is about 4000 million,
16 times that of the USA then there would be around 4000
abductions per day, permanent employment for around 300 craft.
If only we (humans) had a space programme one tenth as good as that!
Steve.
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From: Sheldon.Wernikoff@p0.f605.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Sheldon Wernikoff)
Subject: "Anza UFO" video
Date: 23 May 92 06:49:01 GMT
In a message to all <18-May-92 11:41> Michael Corbin wrote:
MC> As far as the technical aspect of the study goes, the film of
MC> the (Anza) UFO proves absolutely nothing. Since it was a night
MC> scope, using infrared methods, there is no possibility to
MC> discern shape and detail of what they filmed.
Just a point of information here Mike... The "starlight" camera the
team was using amplifies available _visible spectrum light_, not
infra-red as you suggest. I am quite familiar with the Fujinon
PS-910 night vision scope, which I have employed many times while
sailing. Shape and detail of viewed objects ARE readily perceived
with this scope, almost as easily as during daylight observation.
The only difficulty in discerning detail may originate from
overexposure - due to failing to attenuate the scope's output when
a bright object comes into it's field of view. The team probably
had the scope set on automatic, which did not properly compensate
for a small, bright object against a rather dark background.
I found that brief video segment most intriguing, but judging by
the apparent "linear drifting" motion of the object, my best guess
would be that it was some type of lighter-than-air inflatable
device.
BTW, I just read the headlines at the grocery check-out that Adam
and Eve's skeletons were recently unearthed in a Denver suburb! Not
Arvada, was it?
Take care,
Sheldon
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From: Vladimir.Godic@f7.n1040.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Vladimir Godic)
Subject: Gulf Breeze
Date: 24 May 92 03:28:00 GMT
I was watching last night Steve Dunklevy's "The Friday File". The
first segment shown was all about UFOs in Gulf Breeze. I have seen so
much about it on Paranet and heard from my overseas contacts, but
having seen these "UFOs" with my own eyes on the TV, I am wondering
who is behind all this. There is no doubt whatsoever that the whole
thing is a hoax and the "UFOs" are flares. As a matter of fact a
piece of burning material fell off one of these flares. Is someone
writing another book on the "Gulf Breeze UFOs?"
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From: Marc.Michalik@p0.f150.n30163.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Marc Michalik)
Subject: "anza Ufo" Video
Date: 23 May 92 21:04:00 GMT
How do they know that they are "Adam and Eve's" skeletons. Besides,
that story comes from a "National Enquirer" type paper which means
that it almost certainly isn't true. I live in Denver, our local
news is completely ignoring the whole thing meaning that there is
probably nothing to it.
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From: Linda.Bird@f100.n1010.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Linda Bird)
Subject: Re: Jacobs' book
Date: 23 May 92 22:09:00 GMT
Hi Don,
Yes, you are right about "Communion." When I read it back in early
l988, we were living in an apt. near a stairwell (while were waiting
for our house to be built). I'd read the book just before going to
sleep. Sometimes the desert winds would pick up during the night and
howl during the night through the stairwell. That, combined with
reading "Communion," was very spooky!!
Now we're having rainstorms today. Very strange weather!
Linda
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From: Sheldon.Wernikoff@p0.f605.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Sheldon Wernikoff)
Subject: Adam & Eve
Date: 25 May 92 04:34:01 GMT
In a message to Sheldon Wernikoff <23-May-92 14:04>
Marc Michalik wrote:
MM> How do they know that they are "Adam and Eve's" skeletons.
The male skeleton was missing a rib, and had impacted, petrified
apple seeds in his lower jaw. The female was discovered with a
serpent's skeleton wrapped around her femur. Who else could this
pair be??
MM> Besides, that story comes from a "National Enquirer" type paper
MM> which means that it almost certainly isn't true. I live in
MM> Denver, our local news is completely ignoring the whole thing
MM> meaning that there is probably nothing to it. ---
"Freedom of the Press"... free to print truth - or trash,
without fear of censorship.
-- Sheldon
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From: Marc.Michalik@p0.f150.n30163.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Marc Michalik)
Subject: Adam & Eve
Date: 25 May 92 04:57:00 GMT
Apple seeds in the lower jaw? Someone is pulling a fast one. If
this were a true religious discovery it would be getting more press
than anything ever since no religious artifact has ever been found.
I seriously doubt that the skeletons are those af any biblcal
charachter.
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From: Marc.Michalik@p0.f150.n30163.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Marc Michalik)
Subject: Belgium
Date: 25 May 92 05:49:00 GMT
The Belgian UFO incedent is a wealth of hard evidence, why is it
being ignored by the UFO community?
>From what I understand the following is true of that case:
There had been several sightings over a period of about one month. A
UFO was reported by a police department and tracked on four seperate
ground RADARs. Two F16s were scrambled to investigate. Both F16s
pick the object up on RADAR. When the F16 switched from SEARCH RADAR
to TRACKING RADAR the UFO dove from 10,000 feet to 500 feet in 5
seconds (this is a 23G dive, easily enough to kill any human
occupant). At the same time, over 600 people on the ground visually
observed the same craft. A clear photo was also taken. The craft is
triangular with a white light on each corner and a bright red light
in the center. The craft made only a faint "humming" sound.
The available data allows us to rule out most of the excuses that
skeptics usually use. The fact that it was tracked by 6 seperate
RADARs from different directions and from the air rules out almost
all possibility of any RADAR anomoly or malfunction. The
simultanious visual identification by over 600 witnesses also rules
out RADAR anomoly or malfunction. The photograph is one of the
clearest I have ever seen of a UFO. The description itself rules out
the possibility that it is Aurora.
I think this is the closest that the UFO community is going to get to
absolute proof. Why aaren't more resources being used to pursue this
event?
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From: Richard.Salts@p0.f28.n1012.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Richard Salts)
Subject: Ufo Related Shows
Date: 25 May 92 06:05:01 GMT
Hello Don!
21 May 92, Don Sudduth writes to John Hicks:
>> I think that's it. Unsolved Mysteries was a big sort
>> of unexpected hit. So now there's other similar shows,
>> the tabloid news shows, specials etc. I believe the
>> only agenda is cashing in.
DS> Unfortunately, these shows still have an air of "wow, isn't that
DS> interesting - UFO's, ESP, etc. are just SOOO strange, I wonder what's on
DS> Cheers tonight?" The problem is that these shows are strictly
DS> entertainment and nothing else! These shows are looking for anything
DS> weird, strange, shocking, and unusual to get ratings. This is
DS> entertainment, not informed investigation! I'm not saying that the
DS> information they present is incorrect or fiction, but that the "air"
DS> surrounding this information is on the same level as Michael Jackson's new
DS> video or what new movie is coming out this weekend. Just look at the
DS> list of shows presenting UFO related material: Sightings, Unsolved
DS> Mysteries, A Current Affair, Inside Edition, Hard Copy, Now it Can Be
DS> Told, and specials like that Mike Farrell show about 4 years ago (I don't
DS> remember the title). Its time for some REAL journalism and
DS> investigation. UFO research needs news shows to really bring it to a
DS> respected level. Shows like NOVA, Frontline, McNeil-Lehrer, the nightly
DS> news, and special news investigations. As long as UFO's are presented on
DS> a level as these other shows, validity and respect for the phenomena will
DS> be long in coming!
Hi, there, Don. I'm a newcomer to the Paranet network and I would like to add
a thought or two here. I'm an Unsolved Mysteries watcher myself and I do not
believe this particular show to be on the Micheal Jackson, A Current Affair,
etc level at all. From what I've seen of Current Affair, Unsolved Mysteries IS
a cut above some of the shows you talked about in that there have been some
positive results coming out of some of the cases it aired. Skeptics can and
always will decry accounts of paranormal subjects that appear ANYWHERE.
Example: In Fred Rice's SKEPTIC echo, Fred himself bemoans DISCOVER running a
program on mysticism. I don't know anything about the program DISCOVER aired
but should NOVA, Frontline, etc., air UFO type and other paranormal events in
anything resembling an intelligent, sober, respectful manner, they can always
be accused of sensationalism and "pandering to pseudoscience" by the ever
vigilant "skeptical" crowd. In another instance, CSICOP took a DIM view of
NOVA presenting the program, "The Case of ESP." I saw that when it aired and
its attitude was intelligent and e-x-t-r-e-m-e-l-y cautious and featured very
vocal dissenters at the end of the show. Nevertheless CSICOP was unimpressed
and would rather not have the show been broadcast at all but it was.
Even though "A Current Affair", "Hardcopy" and other such shows may not be
exactly the kind of medium we would ideally like this material we care about to
be presented on, at least it IS getting public exposure and maybe sparking some
positive public interest.
Rich
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From: Jim.Speiser@f100.n1010.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Jim Speiser)
Subject: Re: Article: Earth Moves In An Extra-terrestrial Way.
Date: 24 May 92 17:58:00 GMT
Mike:
According to Mark Rodeghier, that Roper poll was commissioned by Hopkins'
Intruders Foundation, and was geared towards finding out how many
individuals had abduction-like elements, such as missing time, unknown
scars, etc. - NOT finding out how many actually believed they had been
abducted (as was reported by the media). There's quite a difference, but I
guess one too subtle for the media.
Jim
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From: Jim.Speiser@f100.n1010.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Jim Speiser)
Subject: Re: Article: Earth Moves In An Extra-terrestrial Way.
Date: 24 May 92 18:02:00 GMT
In a message to All <05-22-92 01:34> Michael Corbin wrote:
MC> This is an article from THE TIMES today, Tuesday 19th May.
MC> The rather jocular style of the reporter suggests that he
MC> has not been abducted himself :-)
It also suggests that perhaps his brain HAS been...as witness this line:
MC> All the "abducted" recall the details of their experiences under
MC> hypnosis. They are probably mingling personal trauma, usually
MC> abuse during childhood, with Hollywood-born fantasies suggested by
MC> their questioner.
False, as everyone here should know...28% of abductees recall their
experiences without the aid of hypnosis.
Jim
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From: Jim.Speiser@f100.n1010.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Jim Speiser)
Subject: Re: Ufo Related Shows
Date: 24 May 92 18:09:00 GMT
In a message to John Hicks <05-21-92 06:39> Don Sudduth wrote:
DS> REAL journalism and investigation. UFO research needs news shows to
DS> really bring it to a respected level. Shows like NOVA, Frontline,
DS> McNeil-Lehrer, the nightly news, and special news investigations. As
DS> long as UFO's are presented on a level as these other shows, validity
DS> and respect for the phenomena will be long in coming!
Amen, Amen, a THOUSAND Amens!
Now, gang, HOW DO WE GO ABOUT GETTING THIS ATTENTION? Does anyone here know
Roone Arledge?
I'm serious, this is exactly what needs to be done. It should be made a
project by some UFO group or another...why not this one?
Jim
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From: Pete.Porro@f414.n154.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Pete Porro)
Subject: Re: GULF BREEZE ROAD FL
Date: 21 May 92 17:35:41 GMT
Yes a SAR mission because a rescue flare was seen? I suppose they had a
report and had to check it out. Here we are again, red light turning white at
the end and vanishing. Ed Walters is out for a walk and the UFO's are there
again. I think Ed has had loads of fun and made his money on this deal. Even
if there are other objects, "ED objects" seem to be questionable. At least
it's making people look up and wonder, which makes for more watchers. On the
other hand, some people are subject to the power of suggestion.
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From: John.Hicks@f29.n363.z1.FIDONET.ORG (John Hicks)
Subject: Re: GULF BREEZE ROAD FL
Date: 22 May 92 17:37:04 GMT
PP> Yes a SAR mission because a rescue flare was seen?
Yes, that makes sense, but over dry land? Well....maybe. The local cops
were not present, though.
PP> Ed Walters is out for a walk and the UFO's are
PP> there again.
Yeah, it does seem to happen that way....
jbh
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From: Jim.Speiser@f100.n1010.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Jim Speiser)
Subject: Re: Ufo Related Shows
Date: 25 May 92 07:46:00 GMT
Good message Richard, but there is a danger I would like to point out.
Public exposure is not ALWAYS good, especially if its exposure of the wrong
cases. "A Torrid Affair" recently ran a segment on Act II of the Gulf Breeze
saga, and basically oohed and aahed over what is probably a road flare. If
it is ever -proven- to be a road flare, not only will A Torrid Affair
probably never touch the subject again, but all the people who saw that
segment will consider themselves to have been duped, and will likely not pay
the subject much attention either. We need exposure, but mostly we need good
journalism. I agree with you that, so far, Unsolved Mysteries has done a
very credible job, FOR AN ENTERTAINMENT SHOW. The real jackpot lies in
getting a segment on PrimeTime Live or a similar vehicle.
Jim
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From: Jim.Speiser@f100.n1010.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Jim Speiser)
Subject: Re: Belgium
Date: 25 May 92 07:49:00 GMT
Mark:
You echo my sentiments exactly. You ought to read an editorial by Mark
Rodeghier in a recent issue of International UFO Reporter, in which he calls
this "our dream case", the one we've waited for all these years. Yet, as he
says, the scientific community has still to beat a path to our door.
A book on the affair has been written, and is being translated from the
French as we speak. Hopefully when its complete, Mark R. will post
information on it here.
Jim
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From: Don.Sudduth@p0.f26.n1012.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Don Sudduth)
Subject: Ufo Related Shows
Date: 25 May 92 14:31:00 GMT
> and I would like to add a thought or two here. I'm an
> Unsolved Mysteries watcher myself and I do not believe
> this particular show to be on the Micheal Jackson, A
> Current Affair, etc level at all. From what I've seen
> of Current Affair, Unsolved Mysteries IS a cut above
> some of the shows you talked about in that there have
> but should NOVA, Frontline, etc., air UFO type and
> other paranormal events in anything resembling an
> intelligent, sober, respectful manner, they can always
> be accused of sensationalism and "pandering to
> pseudoscience" by the ever vigilant "skeptical" crowd.
> presented on, at least it IS getting public exposure
> and maybe sparking some positive public interest.
Rich, I definately agree with you that getting public exposure is VERY
important. I also agree that the show Unsolved Mysteries has somewhat of an
air of more respectability than say, Hard Copy.
Nevertheless, the fact is that Unsolved Mysteries is entertainment FIRST and
investigation second. This show uses material based purely on its
entertainment value! It must grab viewers and keep ratings up or be cancelled.
Thus, material shown on UM still has a connection to entertainment, not fact!
Yes, NOVA has taken an extremely cautious (and mostly negative) view of all
paranormal phenomema. When they did their UFO story in the early 80's they
basically debunked every witness.
I will repeat what I said earlier. As long as UFO material is presented on an
entertainment level and not on a journalistic or factual level, respect will be
LONG in coming!
Thanks for your response, Richard. I hope this dialog continues with everyone
on this board!
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Don Sudduth - via ParaNet node 1:104/422
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From: Marc.Michalik@p0.f150.n30163.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Marc Michalik)
Subject: Re: Belgium
Date: 25 May 92 20:34:00 GMT
Are you still on GEnie? I found your mail address (PARANET) in the
GEMAIL directory but it is incative. I have almost convinced the
scientists in the SPace and Science RT (CAT 7, TOP 12) that this one
is for real. I think I will have them convinced in about a week or
so. If you are still on GEnie you should stop by. I have the
entire topic since we began discussing this case, I can X-modem it
too you if you are interested.
Would you happen to know how I might get my hands on the recording
of the F16s RADAR display?
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Marc Michalik - via ParaNet node 1:104/422
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INTERNET: Marc.Michalik@p0.f150.n30163.z1.FIDONET.ORG
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From: Marc.Michalik@p0.f150.n30163.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Marc Michalik)
Subject: Belgium
Date: 26 May 92 01:20:00 GMT
More info on the Belgian UFO. The craft dove from 10,000 feet to
500 feet in 5 seconds. This, according to a member of the GEnie
Space & Science RT, is an average of 23Gs with a maximum of 43Gs
incurred. No human pilot could survive this amount of G force.
This incident needs to be brought to the forefront of UFO study.
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Marc Michalik - via ParaNet node 1:104/422
UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name
INTERNET: Marc.Michalik@p0.f150.n30163.z1.FIDONET.ORG
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