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Info-ParaNet Newsletters Volume 1 Number 551
Info-ParaNet Newsletters Volume I Number 551
Monday, May 4th 1992
(C) Copyright 1992 Paranet Information Service. All Rights Reserved.
Today's Topics:
Whitley Strieber
New Military Plane?
Triangle Sighting
Triangle Sighting
New Military Plane?
Crop Circles
Crop Circles
Re: New Military Plane?
Articles
Addenda to GB Skyquakes Paper
Crop Circle near A34 in Hampshire
CE5
The first Circle of the 1992 Season?
Crop Circles
'Alien Spacecraft' Blasted by Hunters
CE 369
Triangle Sighting
Colin Andrews
road flares
Re: Articles
Black aircraft
Crop Circles
Re: road flares
Re: road flares
Klass vs Ecker
New Military Plane?
Re: Black aircraft
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From: Anson.Kennedy@p0.f25.n1012.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Anson Kennedy)
Subject: Whitley Strieber
Date: 28 Apr 92 02:49:00 GMT
I just posted a question on the FidoNet UFO Echo, but figured I ask it here,
too.
Does anyone have a copy of Strieber's "farewell letter" he sent with the final
issue of his Communion Letter (the one in which he was highly critical of
abduction researchers)?
Thanks,
--- Anson
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From: Jim.Speiser@f100.n1010.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Jim Speiser)
Subject: New Military Plane?
Date: 27 Apr 92 15:06:00 GMT
I'm surprised that I haven't seen any mention here of the report on NBC news
a few nights back regarding a possible new military aircraft, possibly
nuclear powered, possibly operating out of Nellis or Edwards, and possibly
related to some of the triangle sightings out west? The name I have heard
for this project is TIMBER WIND. Anyone know anything about this?
Jim
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From: Michael.Corbin@p0.f428.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Michael Corbin)
Subject: Triangle Sighting
Date: 28 Apr 92 00:59:00 GMT
> Well, you didn't see an odd light far away at night doing something that
> may or may not be unusual - you saw a fully structured physical
> _object_. You didn't explicitly say so but I think it is reasonable to
> assume that you have no doubts that you saw wh
> Probably the best way to classify myself is as a Skeptical Believer,
> (whatever _that_ means <grin>). I can easily classify myself that way
> because I've never seen/witnessed/experienced anything UFOlogical. You
> have.
> I could not honestly classify myself in that way if I had seen what you
> describe.
Not necessarily so. I classify myself as a skeptic, although I have seen
something in the sky that I could not explain nor completely understand based
upon *my* limited perception of the object. When I label myself and others as
"skeptical," I mean that a person does not out-of-hand dismiss the possibility
that a sighting has the possibility of being something extraordinary, although
possibly prosaic. A "debunker," as Phil Klass called himself on his recent
stay here in Denver, is someone who attaches an explanation to a sighting based
upon either misperception or naturally occurring phenomena, even though a
sighting of a truly Unidentified Flying Object had a physical structure and
appeared to be under intelligent control. Unfortunately, the debunker route
often insults and demonstrates that the so-called skeptic either lives in a
state of denial, lacks perceptual intelligence and ability, or just plain
failed at sandbox (Please, no flames). As far as my sighting is concerned, I
have not begun to attempt to explain it yet. I have not compiled enough data
to make a determination, or to even give an educated guess as to what it might
have been, although I do know I saw something occupying physical space and time
which did not appear to be an airplane in the conventional sense. And, I
cannot completely rule out the possibility that what I saw may have been a
conventional airplane simply banked in such an attitude that it looked like a
triangular object. I will say that I am about 99% certain that it was not the
latter. I clearly saw the outline of the object, and the lighting
configuration. This alone was not something that I have ever seen on a
conventional aircraft.
Something is wrong with this editor. I will answer the second part of your
question in the next message.
Mike
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From: Michael.Corbin@p0.f428.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Michael Corbin)
Subject: Triangle Sighting
Date: 28 Apr 92 05:27:00 GMT
> So, I guess the question (above) can be found somewhere in the
> following: Given that you've seen a _real_ physical object, how
> does/will this affect you in regards to previous sighting reports?
> (Think about all the single-person/single-event reports tha
> So, I guess I'm really asking two questions: 1) How is this situation
> going to affect you moving forward, and; 2) The real question, which
> surfaces the more I think about this and is important to me not only
> because I value your opinion but because I als
John. Could you please re-transmit your original posting to me via netmail?
As you can see, something cut off your message in some places. I will answer
your questions now, though.
To answer question 1: This will not affect me at all. I simply have
archived this sighting in my mind and will continue to look for corroborating
evidence or testimony from others that may have seen it. If other witnesses
come forward, then we have a better case.
I will wait until I see the entire message to comment further.
Mike
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From: Michael.Corbin@p0.f428.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Michael Corbin)
Subject: New Military Plane?
Date: 28 Apr 92 09:28:00 GMT
> I'm surprised that I haven't seen any mention here of the report on NBC
> news a few nights back regarding a possible new military aircraft,
> possibly nuclear powered, possibly operating out of Nellis or Edwards,
> and possibly related to some of the triangle sightings out west? The
> name I have heard for this project is TIMBER WIND. Anyone know anything
> about this?
Although I didn't see the news clip on the tube, I heard that it was the
Project Aurora. It is not triangular-shaped, but more diamond-shaped. It
looked to one person who saw the clip like an arc welder flying through the
sky.
Mike
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From: Michael.Corbin@p0.f428.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Michael Corbin)
Subject: Crop Circles
Date: 28 Apr 92 09:29:00 GMT
* Forwarded from "Alt.Alien.Visitors"
* Originally from Chris Rutkowski
* Originally dated 04-27-92 18:56
From: umrutko0@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Chris Rutkowski)
Date: 27 Apr 92 14:48:20 GMT
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada
Message-ID: <1992Apr27.144820.8202@ccu.umanitoba.ca>
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
FROM: NAICCR (North American Institute for Crop Circle Research)
An American representative of the British CCCS has informed NAICCR that
a new, 1992, crop circle formation has already been found. The
location is Jonesboro, Georgia (?). It was found on or about April 20,
1992. Does anyone on the NET have any further infomation? NAICCR is
interested in learning details of any and all circles and traces found
in North America.
In addition, recent UFO activity in New Hampshire is alleged to have
included crop circles or traces. Can anyone post details here or
e-mail directly to NAICCR at the .sig below? Full credit will be given
in NAIICR Reports.
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Royal Astronomical Society of Canada
University of Manitoba - Winnipeg, Canada
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From: Anson.Kennedy@p0.f25.n1012.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Anson Kennedy)
Subject: Crop Circles
Date: 29 Apr 92 01:10:00 GMT
> FROM: NAICCR (North American Institute for Crop Circle Research)
> An American representative of the British CCCS has informed NAICCR that
> a new, 1992, crop circle formation has already been found. The
> location is Jonesboro, Georgia (?). It was found on or about April 20,
> 1992. Does anyone on the NET have any further infomation? NAICCR is
> interested in learning details of any and all circles and traces found
> in North America.
I checked with the Assistant State Director of MUFON in Georgia and he has not
heard about this. I might also add that no Georgia MICAP member has heard
about it, either [that would be me :-) ].
--- Anson
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From: Linda.Bird@f100.n1010.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Linda Bird)
Subject: Re: New Military Plane?
Date: 29 Apr 92 05:59:00 GMT
Hiya,
Heard a snatch of radio news about some kind of stealth plane. Maybe
I'll see something in the paper...
Linda
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From: Keith.Basterfield@f12.n1040.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Keith Basterfield)
Subject: Articles
Date: 26 Apr 92 16:25:00 GMT
Linda, thanks for those most interesting MUFON Journal articles, which
I had not previously read. I thought that Dan Wright's piece about
some abduction researchers within MUFON not sharing their data with
the general membership was quite a valid point. If we are to work on
the abduction phenomenon togther we need data to be shared.
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From: wam.umd.edu!infinity
Subject: Addenda to GB Skyquakes Paper
Date: 29 Apr 92 15:33:00 GMT
From: David E. Coleman <infinity@wam.umd.edu>
Addenda to the Gulf Breeze Skyquakes Speculations
I.
Earthquake lights are discussed in _Lightning, Auroras, Nocturnal
Lights, and Related Luminous Phenomena_, compiled by William R. Corliss,
The Sourcebook Project (PO Box 107, Glen Arm, MD 21057), 1982, pp. 110-115,
where 57 examples are noted, taken from 58 references.
On p. 110, Corliss summarizes the phenomena:
'Anomaly Evaluation. If all earthquake lights could be explained in terms of
coincident thunderstorms, power- and gas-line phenomena, and even
the spontaneous ignition of releases of natural gas, we would have
no anomaly to explain. However, the fireballs, sky flashes, and
aurora-like beams common to many earthquakes suggest that some other
agent, probably electrical in nature, is at work here. Rating: 2.
Possible Explanations. The variety of earthquake lights may infer the
existence of strong electrical fields, due perhaps to the piezoelectric
effect as rocks are stressed by earthquake forces. The measured
properties of rocks and the stresses exerted do not, however, seem to
be adequate to explain the observations. Furthermore, earthquake lights
have been seen at sea; a fact that weakens the piezoelectric theory
while supporting the natural-gas-eruption theory. Another possibility
is that the gases and dust injected into the atmosphere during a
quake may alter the air's electrical properties, stimulating luminous
phenomena and perhaps the hazes and thunderstorms that are reported
so frequently. Earthquake lights may owe their existence to all of the
mechanisms mentioned above.'
II. I take back the suggestion that the Tunguska event may have been related
to sky quakes. A flashing, meteoric fireball was seen racing to
Tunguska by many observers.
III. There is an article I meant to discuss that appears on p. 16, Discover,
April, 1992, which notes a California researcher trying to explain
the earthquake lights phenomenon in terms of 'sonoluminescence.'
More galactic thoughts from:
Amicitia Subjugat Omnia Hweohthte... (Hwe-oath-T)
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From: clink.co.uk!mmdf
Subject: Crop Circle near A34 in Hampshire
Date: 29 Apr 92 23:21:13 GMT
From: Server Systems Ltd <rtrevelyan@cix.clink.co.uk>
Well I'm back on ParaNet after a couple of months and am looking
forward to the months ahead. I have just received a message that
there is a crop circle in a rape field next to the A34 south of
Sutton Scotney, near Winchester. I have as yet not managed to see it
as it is now dark but will visit this tommorrow. Perhaps this is the
first of the 1992 season, or a sign that D+D are back.
Regards, Robert
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From: well.sf.ca.us!ddrasin
Subject: CE5
Date: 30 Apr 92 13:20:10 GMT
From: Dan Drasin <ddrasin@well.sf.ca.us>
+ From: Keith.Basterfield@f12.n1040.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Keith Basterfield)
+ English crop circle researcher Colin Andrews was in Adelaide
+ recently. During his talk he referred to the following incident
+ having taken place in the US only a few weeks back. He stated that a
+ group of researchers had been experimenting with lasers shining them
+ into the night sky. The lasers were configured to make a triangular
+ shape in the sky. Colin, in his talk, stated that 5 UFOs had
+ appeared and entered the traingle. 2 of them hovered as if they were
+ going to land. Colin stated that 3 separate video films were taken
+ of all of this. Has anyone any information on this momentous event?
Keith, the location of this event was Gulf Breeze, Florida. The group
was led by Dr. Steven Greer, a physician from Asheville, North
Carolina. There is much, much more to this story and to what Greer
has been doing in recent months. More about this will be made public
within the next month or two. Hang in there, folks, and stay tuned.
Dan Drasin
ddrasin@well.sf.ca.us
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From: clink.co.uk!mmdf
Subject: The first Circle of the 1992 Season?
Date: 30 Apr 92 23:14:16 GMT
From: Server Systems Ltd <rtrevelyan@cix.clink.co.uk>
I have just returned from what I believe to be the first crop circle
of the 1992 season. This circle, which is early for the 'season' is
located along the A30 between Sutton Scotney and Winchester. This is
the road that runs parallel with the southbound A34. It is a plain 10
metre circle in rape. It lies about 100 yds up a slight hill but is
veru visible from the main roads. This formation is close to the edge
of the field ancould be accessable from a tractor tramline nearby but
I don't imagine this to be a hoax, famous last words, as some of the
rape stalks are still standing in and around the centre. Guess this
is the start of another uupredictable year but one things for sure,
there is going to be a spotlight on two not so young gents.
Sutton Scotney is about 5 miles north of Winchester and was the site
of a formation in the latter part of the 80's. I wonder who will go
out and declare it 'for real' first. Not me!
Regards, Robert
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From: Anson.Kennedy@p0.f25.n1012.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Anson Kennedy)
Subject: Crop Circles
Date: 1 May 92 01:41:00 GMT
> FROM: NAICCR (North American Institute for Crop Circle Research)
> An American representative of the British CCCS has informed NAICCR that
> a new, 1992, crop circle formation has already been found. The
> location is Jonesboro, Georgia (?). It was found on or about April 20,
> 1992. Does anyone on the NET have any further infomation? NAICCR is
> interested in learning details of any and all circles and traces found
> in North America.
I will also add that, in addition to the local MUFON and MICAP chapters being
unaware of this CC, I have checked with local newspapers and *they* have not
had any reports of any sort of crop vandalism.
I'm now checking with local police.
--- Anson
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From: James Roger Black <jrblack@shemtaia.weeg.uiowa.edu>
Subject: 'Alien Spacecraft' Blasted by Hunters
Date: 1 May 92 05:18:56 GMT
In comp.risks on Usenet News, Bear Giles <bear@tigger.cs.colorado.edu>
of the National Oceanic & Atmospheric Administration's Boulder Labs writes:
+ Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1992 12:54:15 -0600
+ Subject: Risks of a modern weatherman
+ (From the bulletin board down the hall...)
+ Network Wind Profiler Severely Damaged
+ A wind profiler in OAR's Wind Profiler Demonstration Network (WPDN) was
+ severely damaged by several shot-gun blasts late last week. On March
+ 28, just before sunrise, two men and one woman were pheasant hunting in
+ southern Nebraska [and] came across the McCook wind profiler and
+ mistook it for an alien spacecraft. Frightened, they fired a number of
+ shots damaging the profiler antenna and the electronics shed.
+ Furthermore, a Forecast Systems Lab (FSL) technician who was in the
+ shed conducting routine system checks was taken hostage by the
+ hunters. After being held captive for nearly two hours, the
+ technician's partner arrived and explained to the hunters what the
+ profiler really was. The hunters then fled and so far, they have not
+ been apprehended by law enforcement officials. Profiler damage is
+ estimated at $150,000.
And people wonder why 'aliens' might be reluctant to make contact ...
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From: John.Burke@f9.n1012.z9.FIDONET.ORG (John Burke)
Subject: CE 369
Date: 1 May 92 08:21:00 GMT
Keith Basterfield writes:
>
> + English crop circle researcher Colin Andrews was in Adelaide
> + recently. During his talk he referred to the following incident
> + having taken place in the US only a few weeks back. He stated that a
> + group of researchers had been experimenting with lasers shining them
> + into the night sky. The lasers were configured to make a triangular
> + shape in the sky. Colin, in his talk, stated that 5 UFOs had
> + appeared and entered the traingle. 2 of them hovered as if they were
> + going to land. Colin stated that 3 separate video films were taken
> + of all of this. Has anyone any information on this momentous event?
And Dan Drasin responds:
>
> Keith, the location of this event was Gulf Breeze, Florida. The group
> was led by Dr. Steven Greer, a physician from Asheville, North
> Carolina. There is much, much more to this story and to what Greer
> has been doing in recent months. More about this will be made public
> within the next month or two. Hang in there, folks, and stay tuned.
>
> Dan Drasin
> ddrasin@well.sf.ca.us
Gulf Breeze? Yeech! If these videos were so extraordinary, we
probably would have seen them on TV by now (at least on one of
the tabloid shows). Why would we have to wait a month to see
them? I'm beginning to suspect that the flare balloon technique
has been enhanced to the point where they can now be directed
into a triangular target area. To that, I can only say WHO-RAY!!
> More about this will be made public within the next month or two.
Sounds like "more of the same" to me, but to all of you who are
excited by this: Enjoy!
-- John
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From: John.Hicks@f29.n363.z1.FIDONET.ORG (John Hicks)
Subject: Triangle Sighting
Date: 28 Apr 92 06:27:02 GMT
>> Your description closely matches what Jerry W. and others saw in
>> Alabama about two months ago.
> Can you send me a file on this John?
I don't have a file, just recollections of a message Jerry posted a while
back. I *think* I posted it into INFO.PARANET back then. I'll ask Jerry to whip
up something.
Also, could you re-post your original message about it (already maint-killed
here) so I could pass it along to him?
jbh
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From: John.Hicks@f29.n363.z1.FIDONET.ORG (John Hicks)
Subject: Colin Andrews
Date: 28 Apr 92 07:40:00 GMT
> Colin stated that 3 separate
> video films were taken of all of this. Has anyone any information on
> this momentous event?
Haven't heard a peep, on the nets, TV or anything.
jbh
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From: John.Hicks@f29.n363.z1.FIDONET.ORG (John Hicks)
Subject: road flares
Date: 28 Apr 92 07:42:01 GMT
> balloon-borne road flares.
So far, spectral "smears" produced on videotape via diffraction grating do
*not* match, even remotely. About all I know about that, for now.
jbh
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From: Linda.Bird@f100.n1010.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Linda Bird)
Subject: Re: Articles
Date: 2 May 92 03:45:00 GMT
Hi Keith,
Happy that you liked the articles! Has the new Vallee book about UFO's
in Russia hit the stands down there yet?
Linda
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From: Keith.Basterfield@f12.n1040.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Keith Basterfield)
Subject: Black aircraft
Date: 30 Apr 92 03:05:00 GMT
A colleague of mine here in Australia informs me that he heard a TV
news Bulletin recently about "Black aircraft." He says the item stated
that the USAF has admitted that they possess new advanced aircraft
that can hover and also travel 5000 mph. Has anyone knowledge of
recent revelations along these lines? Thanks for any info.
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From: Vladimir.Godic@f7.n1040.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Vladimir Godic)
Subject: Crop Circles
Date: 3 May 92 05:33:00 GMT
A few nights ago, Clive Robinson (a late night news program on
Australian TV) had on Colin Andrews and, much to our amazement, gave
him a spectacularly fair, almost indulgent, interview. Robinson
smiled beningly at Andrew's assertion that:
a) "intelligence" is behind the circles.
b) The British government know more than they're letting (inference
of cover- up).
c) The British government set up Doug and Dave hoax
claim as a way of discrediting the subject with a view of broadening
their inferred cover-up.
d) Andrew quizzed Doug and Dave on a very
recent and complex circle and when asked how they made it, they
thought hard for 6 seconds and they admitted they didn't make that
one. The inference here was that Doug and Dave are responsible for
virtually none of the circles.
The extraordinary thing about the interview was that Robinson very
nicely and gently asked Andrew if he had vested interest in keeping
crop circles mystique alive re his income. Andrew said the first book
on the subject, he wrote, was a spectacular best seller and brought
in sufficient money for him to quit his highly paid engineering job
to pursue subject full time. However, he went to say that there
wasn't enough money from this one book to support him for the rest of
his life and there wasn't enough money on the lecture circuit.
Andrew said that the Tully (Queensland, Australia, 1966) had a "glut" of
crop circles, which annoyed us. This was another rather clever bit of
dialogue because of the UFO sighting at Tully and the inference that
UFO type intelligence must be involved in the U.K. circles.
If Andrew had gotten up and said, yes, all these complex circles are
very likely the result of Doug and Dave's nocturnal mischief, but the
original simple circles, and groups of circles, remain unexplained,
- we'd have said "fair enough." - The simple circles reach back in
recorded history as far as 16th century and it's the mystery of of
these that I am trying to solve, then again, we'd have said fair
enough. But, if you think about it psychologically, it's not as half
as titillating as a government cover-up and the spectacular circles
in fact being real and the result of "intelligence."
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From: Jim.Speiser@f100.n1010.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Jim Speiser)
Subject: Re: road flares
Date: 2 May 92 14:53:00 GMT
In a message to Jim Speiser <04-28-92 00:42> John Hicks wrote:
JH> > balloon-borne road flares.
JH>
JH> So far, spectral "smears" produced on videotape via diffraction
JH> grating do *not* match, even remotely. About all I know about that,
Can you find out, 1) Who took the videos, 2) Who analyzed them, 3) Who
reported the above, 4) Has that been independently confirmed?
I just can't help thinking we're getting a lot of smoke from the same old
sources.
Jim
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From: Linda.Bird@f100.n1010.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Linda Bird)
Subject: Re: road flares
Date: 3 May 92 03:48:00 GMT
Hi John,
I just thought of something: if those lights at Gulf Breeze are
balloon-carried road flares and they are launched over a body of water,
wouldn't it stand to reason that one of these things would eventually
wash ashore? (I'm SO brilliant! <g>)
Or, is it possible to launch them, and reel them back in?
Thanks!
Linda
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From: Anson.Kennedy@p0.f25.n1012.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Anson Kennedy)
Subject: Klass vs Ecker
Date: 4 May 92 00:17:00 GMT
Do you have tapes of the Klass/Ecker face-off?
In any case, how did it go?
--- Anson
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From: John.Hicks@f29.n363.z1.FIDONET.ORG (John Hicks)
Subject: New Military Plane?
Date: 3 May 92 06:56:01 GMT
> I'm surprised that I haven't seen any mention here of the report on NBC
> news a few nights back regarding a possible new military aircraft,
I missed that one, although someone on UFO is going to post a transcript. Saw
a bleep on CNN about seismologists having detected the "signature" of what's
possibly the long-rumored Aurora.
jbh
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From: Jim.Speiser@f100.n1010.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Jim Speiser)
Subject: Re: Black aircraft
Date: 4 May 92 04:11:00 GMT
Keith:
A report was seen here recently on NBC News regarding some Black Aircraft
under development in Nevada, possibly under the project name of TIMBRE WIND.
However, I did not see the report, and I don't know what flight
characteristics were mentioned.
There have been rumors in the press, on and off for about a year and a half
now, about diamond- and triangle-shaped craft being seen in the vicinity of
some of the high-tech aerodromes, such as Edwards AFB, Nellis AFB, and Area
51. Aviation Week Magazine has had at least two such reports, all based on
ground sightings by independent observers. Funny how, once its put in the
context of "possible secret government aircraft", it becomes OK to run such
reports in the mainstream media....
Jim
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