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Info-ParaNet Newsletters Volume 1 Number 550
Info-ParaNet Newsletters Volume I Number 550
Wednesday, April 29th 1992
(C) Copyright 1992 Paranet Information Service. All Rights Reserved.
Today's Topics:
Re: Aztalan/cahokia/prehistoric
June Visitors
Re the rainbow articles...
Triangle Sighting
Triangle Sighting
Triangle Sighting
Sighting Report
Short Paper on Gulf Breeze Skyquakes
Unid AC - Fed Am Scientists
queries about outerspace
Hyzer Report, Salisberry-style
Re: Short Paper on Gulf Breeze Skyquakes
Colin Andrews
Triangle Sighting
Re: Rainbow Traveller message
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From: Peggy.Noonan@p0.f605.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Peggy Noonan)
Subject: Re: Aztalan/cahokia/prehistoric
Date: 17 Apr 92 17:25:03 GMT
Hi Pete,
"Son," -- sorry about that! Egad, I think all females are
genetically programmed to adopt the mother mode in spite of all
logic and intelligence. Many apologies! Spock would make me turn
in my Enterprise Uniform for such a lapse of Vulcan-thinking.
(Torn quads, tendinitis, and condromalacia? Geez, what "fun"! The
two fingers of 12-year-old should be more like two tumblers or
three...)
If you get to Cahokia, stop in and see Bill Iseminger, the PR
coordinator there. He was so helpful on my interviews and was
really nice too. Knows his topic well. Too bad OMNI hasn't run
that story yet. Now that there are so many changes in the magazine,
I don't know if they ever will.
It must be a strange feeling to be out at Aztalan at sunrise
watching for the solstice marker...almost like stepping back in
time. That would be a super trip.
The Golden Ratio: Wasn't there another name for it, too? Something
like the Greek Ratio or the Golden Mean or something? (Boy, when
they tell you memory is the first thing to go, they're not kidding.)
The perfect balance was supposed to be 20:13, wasn't it? Seems like
Richard Hoagland said something about this on one of his radio
interviews about the Face on Mars -- something about the same
perfect ratio being used there.
Elmwood, WI, should be a GREAT trip! I didn't know the guy had
stopped the project of building the UFO landing field -- last I knew
it was going great and local people and visitors thought it was
fun or took it seriously and thought it was a great idea.
Then there's the UNARIUS group in CA with the UFO landing area
they're setting up...that's the one where all the UFO space brothers
are coming in the next couple of years or so, and the first ship
will land, set up as a base, then #2 ship will land atop it and link
to it, then #3 atop #2, and so on (forgot how many...20 or more)
making it a huge UFO skyscraper which will be turned into a
university for those of us humans who're enlightened enough to enter
and become educated to the conversion and our next levels. Hey,
at least when they're building *up* like that, they don't need a lot
of land area! Think of the property tax savings... Hm....we've
got an airport in Denver they could pick up cheap now that Stapleton
is going to be phased out for the newer, smaller, less efficient Den
Internationall. Already got the landing strips for visitors to
arrive (human ones,that is, the UFO ones don't need runways, do
they?) and lots of space for conventions...
Or there's always Crestone, CO, where the new UFO believers
convene...
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From: Peggy.Noonan@p0.f605.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Peggy Noonan)
Subject: June Visitors
Date: 17 Apr 92 17:43:06 GMT
>Still no firm decisions on our travel plans. Also, I'm waiting
>to see what goes with the new, lower airfares. (Holding my
>breath...)
Hi Linda,
Best prices so far seem to be from a charter group called
MLT Vacations. Compared prices for variety of arr/dep destinations
and they had by far lowest prices OF THOSE I CALLED (so for those of
you who'd disagree, I didn't call EVeryone, just the majors that fly
Denver) ... Usual deal is arr/dep on 2 days -- San Antonio, for
instance, would leave Tue/Sat with return on either of those 2 days.
Airfares were about $300 less than others and they're flying 727s
and better, but it's charter so there are some restrictions. Recent
ad in paper listed a bunch of different 800 numbers to call for
info: here's one near Stapleton (Denver airport) 800-843-6774.
Might be worth giving them a call to see if you can get a better
deal while all the other prices are falling too.
>
>Let me know when your visitors might arrive.
Don't know yet...still working out the bugs.
>
>Why does everything have to be so @#% complicated! And
>undecided!
>(Rhetorical questions.)
Why, of course, that's THE PLAN! It's designed to deliberately
confuse, confound, and complicate, but take heart....just like those
childhood punishments, it's "for your own good" <g>...and, of
course, since THE PLAN was created by the Reptilians, we know we can
rest easy and trust...uh, trust? Well, never mind. <g>
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From: Don.Allen@f29.n363.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Don Allen)
Subject: Re the rainbow articles...
Date: 19 Apr 92 08:15:00 GMT
* Replying to a message originally to All
nn> From: ncar!uunet!sco!robertc
nn> Date: 15 Apr 92 20:17:18 GMT
nn> Message-ID: <21517@scicom.AlphaCDC.COM>
nn> Newsgroups: info.paranet
nn>
nn> From: Robert Chansky <robertc@sco.COM>
nn>
nn> What was that filling up my mailbox? Am I supposed to take all of that
nn> with something remotely close to seriousness? Why?
nn>
nn> Not to be a skeptic, but... if anyone is supposed to believe it, why
nn> does it seem so much like drivel?
nn>
Has _comprehension_ gone out of style lately?
I'm the fair rogue that posted the "Rainbow messages"..but nowhere
did I even suggest they were to be taken as the gospel truth. I seem
to recall imploring all those who would read to NOT take them at face
value. They were posted for those who would DO investigation on the
included list of alleged Jason group members. No one has asked a single
person to blindly believe anything, which I hope on _this_ network
people would do some research as opposed to just following the words
of established "experts".
This text was emailed to me and I elected to share it with you. The
person who sent it to me was one of the people on the Jason Group list.
A friend contacted this person and this person denied having anything
to do with it but he didn't protest all _that_ much. A case could possibly
be made for a hoax or (worse) perpetuated fraud by hoaxing a MILNET
address from hplabs as the source pathing. The email address from which
this text was sent showed less than 3 stops; however the possibility
has been uppermost in mind that a forged address isn't all that hard
to engineer if you know the techniques; this may or may not be less
realistic from a milnet site.
It's a trifle EASY thing to say that the text was "Bullshit". Is that
more preferable than trying to prove it's validity via the Jason
Group listing of the members themselves; or is the issue that makes
people declare it "bullshit" because of the mention of "Alt 3" where
it's dismissed upon reading such? Or is it that something like this
sends ripples across our agreed-upon reality that neither the
Philadelphia Experiment nor Alternative 3 are held to be "True"?
Is it easier to dismiss it than it is to show the "how" and "why"
that its an OBVIOUS "hoax" or patent "untruth"?
Just a few rhetorical questions..I tend to question everything..including
claims mentioned in the text -and- those we tend to hold near and dear. :-)
Don
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From: John.Powell@p5.f134.n109.z1.FIDONET.ORG (John Powell)
Subject: Triangle Sighting
Date: 19 Apr 92 20:19:07 GMT
In a message to All <10 Apr 92 03:15> Michael Corbin wrote:
MC> For what it's worth ...
MC> I was downtown this evening on some business...
So, what do you think it was??? (Its none of my business, but how did/will
this affect you?)
Thanks, take care.
John.
PS: Is this your 1st personal sighting?
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From: Michael.Corbin@p0.f428.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Michael Corbin)
Subject: Triangle Sighting
Date: 22 Apr 92 21:57:00 GMT
> Your description closely matches what Jerry W. and others saw in
> Alabama about two months ago.
Can you send me a file on this John?
Thanks,
Mike
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From: Michael.Corbin@p0.f428.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Michael Corbin)
Subject: Triangle Sighting
Date: 22 Apr 92 21:58:00 GMT
> So, what do you think it was??? (Its none of my business, but how
> did/will this affect you?)
I don't know what it was. It is very puzzling, and represents an incredible
technology, whatever it is. I am not sure what you mean on the second part of
your question above.
Mike
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From: Michael.Corbin@p0.f428.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Michael Corbin)
Subject: Sighting Report
Date: 23 Apr 92 05:18:00 GMT
This report was phoned in to ParaNet. It occurred in August, 1991, in a small
town south of Great Falls, Montana.
The case involves two elderly women living in a small home near an Interstate.
The area is near Cascade, Montana. It is a fairly sparsely populated area.
On the evening of the sighting, they noted that their power went out about
10:00 P.M. Unable to determine the cause of the problem, they decided to go
to bed since it was getting late. At about 2:00 A.M., they awakened to see a
bright blue light filtering into the house. They went to the window and
observed a large circular object hovering near the Interstate highway. It
had two large blue lights and the object appeared to be rotating while
hovering silently. They stated that it was the size of a basketball held at
arm's length. After about fifteen minutes, the object took off to the north
and was not seen again. The power was back on at this time.
A followup to the power company found that there was a transformer out in the
area, however the power company was unable to determine the cause of the
malfunction in the transformer, thus it is difficult to connect the power
outage to the sighting.
Mike
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From: wam.umd.edu!infinity
Subject: Short Paper on Gulf Breeze Skyquakes
Date: 23 Apr 92 17:15:01 GMT
From: David E. Coleman <infinity@wam.umd.edu>
Gulf Breeze Skyquakes: Some Hazy Speculations
on Man, UFOs, Lights, the Earth and Magnetic Fields
David E. Coleman
April 17, 1992
Skyquakes that occur on Earth are not in themselves entirely
caused by modern technology, such as the sonic boom of an airplane.
Why? They have occurred for centuries (i.e CWCF, 450-451, 526; CWCF = Complete
Works of Charles Fort.) Some of the quakes that preceded most modern
technologies occurred well within the range of seismographs (for example,
CWCF, 511, 526.) The unusual Tunguska explosion (1908,) which well could be
an extreme of the phenomenon, appears with little possibility for error to
have originated above ground. Lightning and other sudden illumination appear
to occur at times during both skyquakes and earthquakes (CWCF, 471-478, 537.)
Once, a whole congregation of luminous bodies appeared during a quake
(CWCF, 244.) There exists a report of 112 luminosity-quake occurences exists
(the reference is listed in CWCF, 505.)
Whether or not 'Ed' Walters' photographs are valid, there have been
strange occurrences over the skies of Gulf Breeze, and in the waning days
mysterious red lights, some of which defy the reasonable operations of
flares and other natural phenomena, have replaced the solid body UFOs.
UFOs have been connected with magnetic fields as a source of
possible propulsion and even car uplift. So have earthquakes been
associated with magnetic fields. Significant changes in electric and
magnetic fields were detected in the air during earthquakes in California by
the Stanford Research Institute, in an experiment that psychics had
recommended (See _Channeling_, Kautz, Branon and Ryerson, 1987, p. 131).
Animals have long been noted as reacting strangely before quakes,
and birds and eels are in particular known to 'read' lines of magnetic
declination. SRI performed another, four year study confirming the
correlation between unusual animal behavior and seismic activity.
(_Channeling_, pp. 130-1) Both studies were performed under the funding of
the U.S Geological Survey, without the USGS knowing that psychics had
provided the theoretical basis for the studies.
Indeed, Michael Persinger and Paul Devereaux have argued that many
nocturnal light sightings, mistaken for UFOs, occur often around seismic areas.
Greg Long demonstrates quite simply that not all unexplained UFOs can be
accounted for by 'earth lights,' in his critical examination, _Examining the
Earthlight Theory: The Yakima UFO Microcosm_ (1990). For a review of this, see
Long's short piece in 'News 'n' Views,' Mufon UFO Journal (#270, Oct'90, p20.)
Hypothetically 'true' UFOs, such as those in the Hudson Valley
sightings, have also been associated with luminous lights as well. UFOs have
long been seen to emit these lights, which they seem to be able to control.
Gulf Breeze has been the site of many red light sightings, which are difficult
to analyze.
Another possible relation is the fact that magnetic fields on the
sun twist and twist throughout the sunspot cycle, until they finally 'break.'
The breaks constitute points at which the 11 and 21-22 year sunspot cycles
begin and end. Could earthquakes involve changes in subsurface magnetism that
propagate into causing magnetic field breaks in the air above the ground, with
electromagnetic emission and/or skyquakes occurring as a result of the breach?
Can magnetic activity build up in an area, such as Tunguska, until whap! The
formation breaks? Could the operations of UFOs disturb local fields (and
local expressions of Einstein's Unified Field,) causing a residue of skyquakes?
Animals may not be the only ones who 'quake.' James B. Beal, a
research engineer at the Miami Heart Institute, notes that the
rates of automobile and aircraft accidents seem to increase when
meteorological warm fronts and solar activity coincide (Paper by Richard A.
Smith III, a behavioral analyst with the Univ. of Alabama, reproduced by
Brad Steiger, _Gods of Aquarius_, 1976, p. 196.)
1989, 1990, and 1991, each have been record years in the numbers
of tornados (Weatherwise, Feb/March 1992, p23; 'Twisters Hit Texas Most
Often,' USA Today, p. 1A, 4/16/92), coinciding with the maximum of the
sunspot cycle, a correlation that has long been noticed. In a possible
reversal of the direction of this mechanism, Dr. David Zipoy of the University
of Maryland Astronomy Department noted in Spring, 1989, the time when the
emotions of one billion Chinese were boiling, the largest and longest lived
sunspot ever trapsed around the sun (Personal correspondence.) Psychic
Edgar Cayce indicated that 'anger, jealousy, hate [and] animosity' lead to
increased sunspot violence (life reading 417-7, as found in _Mass Dreams of
the Future_, Chet Snow, 1989/1990, p215.)
More galactic thoughts from:
Amicitia Subjugat Omnia Hweohthte... (Hwe-oath-T)
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8125 48th Ave, Apt. 612
College Park, MD 20740 1-(301)-474-7424
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From: Steve.Beatty@p0.f605.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Steve Beatty)
Subject: Unid AC - Fed Am Scientists
Date: 24 Apr 92 04:43:01 GMT
** Forwarded from Fido ANEWS - News of the US & World - 4-23-92 **
without comment...
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press release from Federation of American Scientists
Secret Aircraft Programs Probed in New FAS Study
To: National Desk, Defense Writer
Contact: Steven Aftergood of the Federation of American Scientists,
202-675-1012
WASHINGTON, April 20 /U.S. Newswire/ -- A new study by the
Federation of American Scientists titled "Mystery Aircraft" surveys
the public literature on classified aircraft programs, reviews the
history of such aircraft, and argues that the secrecy surrounding
them has become excessive and self-defeating.
A recent spate of "lights in the sky" has led to considerable
speculation about the existence of classified aircraft programs.
Purported sightings of high-speed, high-altitude, maneuvering
vehicles have led some to conclude that the United States has
developed a fleet of new aircraft and is either testing them or
already flying several types in operational service. The public
unveiling of one or more such aircraft is rumored to be imminent.
"Mystery Aircraft," authored by Christopher Bolkcom, Steven
Aftergood, and John Pike, reviews past classified aircraft programs
-- the U-2, the little-known CL-400 Suntan, the SR-71, and the F-117A
-- and provides a framework for evaluating the persistent reports of
current "black" aircraft programs.
The study concludes that secrecy in military aerospace has
exceeded all reasonable justifications and that it functions above
all as a mechanism for enhancing the political fortunes of
questionable programs.
"It seems that many black aircraft programs are designed only to
penetrate Congressional airspace," said Aftergood, a co-author of the
FAS study.
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Editors: To request a copy of the study, contact Steven Aftergood
at 202-675-1012.
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/U.S. Newswire 202-347-2770/
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From: Brett.Kent@p0.f150.n30163.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Brett Kent)
Subject: queries about outerspace
Date: 24 Apr 92 05:50:00 GMT
Tonight I happened to be viewing on the television a special segment
on current affair about UFO abductions. It seems, through their
reporting, that our friendly Uncle Sam, at first did not believe
that these people who have reported it, been abducted by aliens. The
fact was, it wasn't till many reports, spread out through the world
came in, did they even began to take notice. A couple of questions
were raised, but never really answered. The first and foremost was,
"Were these people actually taken aboard alien spacecraft and used
as test subjects?". Now, let me play the devils advocate, and start
by saying, that it is quite possible, in spite of the fact, that
when the aliens...all described as being large headed, not very
tall, with long black eyes, little or no nose, and a small slit for
a mouth...were first described, it took like wild-fire to dry bush,
and many other reports came out. Now the other question that this
rises, is it fact or fiction. Let's view this another way. Question:
Why have our space travlers...shuttle astronauts...seen these so
called space vehicles or aliens? Why out of all the people on the
earth, were these men and women not abducted? To me it would seem
easier for our extraterrestrial friends to abduct them, deep in
outerspace, than to risk exposure by abducting someone from the
planets surface. Two things can be said in defense. One, that the
constant radio connections between the shuttle and earth are too
frequent, and would be too hard to bypass. Secondly, when our
astronauts returned to earth, there physicals, which are given
alway's before and after a mission, would detect tampering with
their bodies. But to offense that question, let's ask why there are
no physical oddities discovered about the people who were on earth.
I will tell you bluntly, that if I remembered being taken into a
strange alien craft, and had experiments preformed on me, I sure
would want to see a doctor that same night. No if's and's or but's
about it. I would claim I was scared frightened or otherwise, and I
by nature am a very shy person! I find it hard to believe that so
many people were abducted, for a couple reasons. Too many constants
in their stories, and two, nothing noticable diffrent about then
either. I do however believe, one or two stories, but not fifty, and
not the same tale told in diffrent words. I am not here posting this
to say that I do not belive in aliens, because I do. What I want is
to make people think about it more...instead of just passing
thoughts. Because if one day, we all are to meet out space friends,
then we'll have to have more knowledge than we already do. We may
have advanced technologicaly, but socially, we still live in trees!
I belive this is why we ARE being studied, and why our friends have
not made contact. Just look at the world around you, the violence,
ignorance and crime. To them, we must seem like barbarians!
B.A.Kent
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From: John.Hicks@f29.n363.z1.FIDONET.ORG (John Hicks)
Subject: Hyzer Report, Salisberry-style
Date: 22 Apr 92 05:15:03 GMT
> Photos are just not convincing evidence of anything,
> because there is no way to conclude a photograph cannot be a hoax.
I think you've really nailed it right there. The situation just escalates;
one side finds more evidence of fakery, and the other side takes that into
account in its explanation of how the photo is real, and on and on. Still no
really solid smoking gun.
Hyzer's report hasn't yet been publicly released, since it was done for
MUFON, and it'd be up to Walt to release it.
> Personally, there is too much messiness in the Gulf Breeze case for
> me to consider it a premier UFO flap. I concede that it is impossible to
> put enough faith in Ed's photographs to prove ETs are visiting us, but I
> do believe that debunkers cannot cite first that Ed's case is, in their
> probable words, 'an obvious hoax,' and then say that the many other
> sightings in the area prove that a major flap, of the level of the Hudson
> Valley flap, can be caused by hysteria cascading from a single 'spark' of a
> false sighting.
Speculation is, as you've mentioned, that Ed heard of sightings in or near
the area and concocted his hoax. Somewhere in his book he mentioned that he
concluded that he was seeing the object that made the orange/red circle others
had seen in the sky. That of course implies that he'd heard of prior sightings,
even if they weren't reported in the media.
> If my memory serves, there is enough of an argument from the other witnesses
> that objects that cannot be called planes, blimps, reflections off flocks of
> birds, or beams from discotheques, are in the skies of Gulf Breeze.
For the record, Rex told me that while he believes many of the sightings are
of airplanes etc., he believes that some sightings are truly of unidentified/
unknown objects. He's not debunking the whole flap, just Ed.
jbh
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From: Linda.Bird@f100.n1010.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Linda Bird)
Subject: Re: Short Paper on Gulf Breeze Skyquakes
Date: 25 Apr 92 05:26:00 GMT
Hi David
Nice article on Gulf Breeze and skyquakes. Enjoyed reading it. I am
reading Vallee's new book on UFO's in the Soviet Union (I mean
Commonwealth), and he mentions studies in Russia on skyquakes and
magnetism, etc. I'm sure you'll enjoy the book should you get it.
There are also some good pictures of a small unknown light-globe
hovering around some people. (As with any picure, one uses one's
common sense to judge its validity.)
Best,
Linda
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From: Keith.Basterfield@f12.n1040.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Keith Basterfield)
Subject: Colin Andrews
Date: 23 Apr 92 02:48:00 GMT
English crop circle researcher Colin Andrews was in Adelaide recently.
During his talk he referred to the following incident having taken
place in the US only a few weeks back. He stated that a group of
researchers had been experimenting with lasers shining them into the
night sky. The lasers were configured to make a triangular shape in
the sky. Colin, in his talk, stated that 5 UFOs had appeared and
entered the traingle. 2 of them hovered as if they were going to land.
Colin stated that 3 separate video films were taken of all of this.
Has anyone any information on this momentous event?
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From: John.Powell@f134.n109.z1.FIDONET.ORG (John Powell)
Subject: Triangle Sighting
Date: 25 Apr 92 09:15:00 GMT
In a message to John Powell <22 Apr 92 14:58> Michael Corbin wrote:
>> So, what do you think it was??? (Its none of my business, but how
>> did/will this affect you?)
MC> I don't know what it was. It is very puzzling, and represents an
MC> incredible technology, whatever it is. I am not sure what you mean on
MC> the second part of your question above.
Well, you didn't see an odd light far away at night doing something that may or
may not be unusual - you saw a fully structured physical _object_. You didn't
explicitly say so but I think it is reasonable to assume that you have no
doubts that you saw wh
Probably the best way to classify myself is as a Skeptical Believer, (whatever
_that_ means <grin>). I can easily classify myself that way because I've never
seen/witnessed/experienced anything UFOlogical. You have.
I could not honestly classify myself in that way if I had seen what you
describe.
So, I guess the question (above) can be found somewhere in the following: Given
that you've seen a _real_ physical object, how does/will this affect you in
regards to previous sighting reports? (Think about all the single-person/
single-event reports tha
So, I guess I'm really asking two questions: 1) How is this situation going to
affect you moving forward, and; 2) The real question, which surfaces the more I
think about this and is important to me not only because I value your opinion
but because I als
Thanks, take care.
John.
* X R S * Absence of Evidence is not Evidence of Absence
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From: adamd@rhi.hi.is (Adam David)
Subject: Re: Rainbow Traveller message
Date: 27 Apr 92 14:18:41 GMT
From: adamd@rhi.hi.is (Adam David)
+ From: uunet!sco!robertc
+ Subject: Re the rainbow articles...
+ Date: 15 Apr 92 20:17:18 GMT
+
+ From: Robert Chansky <robertc@sco.COM>
+
+ What was that filling up my mailbox? Am I supposed to take all of that
+ with something remotely close to seriousness? Why?
+
+ Not to be a skeptic, but... if anyone is supposed to believe it, why
+ does it seem so much like drivel?
+
+ Rob
While I am no expert in literary analysis and have had no contact with or
exposure to civilizations beyond this planet, I could recognise certain
attributes in these articles. If I were more of a literary analyst or had
more direct experience of alien culture then maybe my following comments
would bear more weight and contain more specific detail.
I read the articles with interest, although the style was at times offputting.
While reading, the following questions occurred to me:
1) Which (alien) language is this translated from, and was the translator human
or not?
2) Was this communication received telepathically, or given as a speech
(presumeably recorded on tape)? The example of the motorcycle is a dead
giveaway that (a) the message was given telepathically, (b) the speaker
fished up an image from the audience by telepathic means, or (c) the whole
message is a poorly disguised fake or a disinformation to discredit the
contents of the message.
3) Why is the person who transcribed the message such a poor English speller?
An alien intelligence would presumeably make the effort to spell the english
words correctly, even though the english language is poorly suited for
some of the concepts involved. Therefore it is self-evident that the poor
spelling is the result of simple human error, maybe by a human who is not
a native english speaker or just spells badly (for whatever reason).
4) Who and where is the author at the time the message is recorded?
Now, I started thinking about what would be the outcome if this communication
had been translated more specifically into 'correct' english by some human
editor. It is my opinion that while there would be merit in this, much of
the general context might be lost in giving the text a specific interpretation.
This would undoubtably be the case, unless this editor had substantial
experience of and access to the particular alien culture in question. Indeed,
there is a danger that the text would assume a form that would not be possible
to distinguish from imaginative fiction of present-day human origin.
There was one glaring error in the content of the text, where the destruction
of Atlantis is described. Personally, I doubt that the event described in the
text happened on earth, but if it did then it was not Atlantis but an older
civilization perhaps so long ago that the earth spun around a different pole.
Actually, the description of this holocaust seems to be a reference to the
destruction of the planet which was shattered to pieces to form the asteroids
and orbiting comets. I do not have the details of when this took place, only
that it was well before 8498 b.c.e. which is the year Atlantis sunk.
Calculations have been made, projecting comet orbits back into the recent
geological past, and all such orbits intersect at a single point in space-time
within the current asteroid belt surprisingly recently, like tens or hundreds
of thousands of years ago, but certainly well under a million years.
Also it was surprising with all the mention of coverage in movies,
that Superman was not mentioned, where this planet is referred to as
Krypton, and the whole city was run on crystals.
Apart from what I pointed out here, there were no noticeable inconsistencies
or serious errors in the text. The reference to 'deadly orgone energy' was
however incomplete, and possibly misleading to a reader who knows nothing about
the work of Dr. Wilhelm Reich. It was also strange that the night BEFORE
I received the part of the message which describes certain sub-atomic /
sub-material principles pertaining to that holocaust, I dreamt quite clearly
about experiencing a smaller laboratory instance of such a 'rip' in the
time-space fabric. There were very advanced teachers explaining it with
graphs and equations. Basically the cause of the phenomenon was a time-loop
of pico-second or femto-second (?) scale at a sub-atomic level, happening in
some electronic component. It was a very scary experience, and the teachers
were anxious to point out the dangers and how they could be avoided. Certain
details in the dream were directly relevant to the contents of that part of
the text which I received the next day.
I do not know enough about what projects Nikola Tesla was involved in towards
the end of his life, and can therefore not provide adequate comment on that
part of the text. Maybe someone else would like to fill out the details on
this one. All in all, it was very compelling reading.
--
Adam David.
(adamd@rhi.hi.is)
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