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                Info-ParaNet Newsletters   Volume I  Number 565 

Wednesday, July 8th 1992

(C) Copyright 1992 Paranet Information Service. All Rights Reserved.

Today's Topics:

Re: Sts-ufo - Hard Copy
Re: Articles
Re: What Can We Do? (And Swamp Gas Journal!)
Re: Vcr Alert: Ufo Abductionists On Parade
Re: Hard Copy Shows Nasa Ufo Video
Caution For Ufo Investigators
Caution For Ufo Investigators
Re: Hard Copy Shows Nasa Ufo Video
What Can We Do?
Mit Abductee's Meeting
Re: Closed Abductee Conference
Re: Closed Abductee Conference
MIT Conference
UFO Conferences
Re: "ANZA UFO" VIDEO
"ANZA UFO" VIDEO
Don's GB Sighting Report

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From: Jim.Speiser@f100.n1010.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Jim Speiser)
Subject: Re: Sts-ufo - Hard Copy
Date: 15 Jun 92 13:46:00 GMT

In a message to Jim Speiser <06-14-92 14:37> Richard Salts wrote:

RS> Hello Jim!

Hello Richard!

RS> that Ed Walters is a fraud and I wonder what, in the way of evidence,
RS> you have to PROVE that.

As I've said many times before, Richard, the hoax hypothesis is always
unprovable. No matter what evidence is presented, someone can always come up
with a "how do you know...". I regard photo #6 as extremely strong evidence
that Ed is a fraud, but others have told me, "How do you know he wasn't able
to track the object exactly for half a second?"


RS> very dubious and questionable example to make your point and you may
RS> just be UNmaking it in the process.
RS>

The efficacy of the Piper case has no bearing whatsoever on my point. Ms.
Piper may very well have been genuine, and it will still be true that
charlatans are capable of acting just as sincere and as pious as Mother
Theresa.

"The key to life is sincerity. Once you can fake that, you've got it made."
--Groucho Marx


Jim

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From: Linda.Bird@f100.n1010.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Linda Bird)
Subject: Re: Articles
Date: 15 Jun 92 20:13:00 GMT

Hi Vlad,

You gave me a start (with offer of trip to Australia), then a good
laugh when I realized you'd have to win the lottery first!! Hohoho!
Same here! Then I can donate thousands to my favorite UFO
organizations.

I'll get the Gulf Breeze articles to you, and will include a note about
what I might like in exchange. Actually, I like all things - am a
"generalist," actually.

In 3 1/2 weeks I'll be attending the MUFON conf. in New Mexico. I went
to one before (Florida, 1990) and they are truly enjoyable.

Best,

Linda

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From: Linda.Bird@f100.n1010.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Linda Bird)
Subject: Re: What Can We Do? (And Swamp Gas Journal!)
Date: 15 Jun 92 20:30:00 GMT

Hi Chris,

Was just thinking of you! I'd love to see a copy of your Swamp Gas
Journal; do you still have my address? How's your baby?? Must be
walking by now.

I'm trying to finish up a certificate program this summer. It's no
fun. Things are quiet in the skies.

I'm going to the MUFON UFO Conf. in July, but most everyone thinks
(because I told 'em so) that I'm going to a "science conference."
Then their eyes glaze over, and that's the end of that. Because I
have a teaching major in geology, they think I'm going off to see a
bunch of rocks. Funny, huh, in a sad sort of way...

All my news! Best to you,

Linda

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From: Linda.Bird@f100.n1010.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Linda Bird)
Subject: Re: Vcr Alert: Ufo Abductionists On Parade
Date: 15 Jun 92 20:37:00 GMT

HI Mike,

Rec'd this post too late to tape it. Hope someone saw it and will
comment. I wonder why the abductees were unhappy? But I bet I can
guess why. They were probably treated with disbelief and extreme
skepticism.

Regards,

Linda

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From: Linda.Bird@f100.n1010.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Linda Bird)
Subject: Re: Hard Copy Shows Nasa Ufo Video
Date: 15 Jun 92 20:46:00 GMT

Hi Vlad-

By all means post your article and correspondences with J. Oberg.
Remember, a lot of us are new to this field, not old-timers like you
and Jim S.

Thanks,

Linda

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From: Marc.Michalik@p0.f150.n30163.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Marc Michalik)
Subject: Caution For Ufo Investigators
Date: 16 Jun 92 20:56:00 GMT

This is the most rediculous load of BS I have ever heard. EBEs are
not going to respect us for carpooling. I can't believe that this
person actually thinks that UFO researchers should conceal evidence
if they find it. The enviroment and UFOs have absolutely nothing to
do with each other. Quite frankly, I'd bet the EBEs (greys,
whatever) could care less about how much we polute our atmosphere.

Furthermore, I doubt that they see us as lab rats. Being a former
"rat" myself I have insight into this. Suppose we were to find a
planet of apes. We, being far enough along to know that we were
once much the same, would be extreamly interested in them. We would
study them, take them on-board our ships (where our scientific
facilaties would be) and examine them. We would probably observe
their devolopement for as long as they survived or until they
evolved to a point where they recognized our presance. When they
did recognize that we exsisted do you think that we would
extreminate our "brothers" for it? Of course not! Does all of this
sound familiar? It should.

It is my deepest hope that UFO researchers everywhere see this idea
for what it is -- unethical and just plain wrong. The government
most likely (I believe definately) has been keeping this secret from
us for years, UFO researchers had better not do the same. It is
possible that such an act by those who the abductees trust to do
their best to help uncover the mystery could lead to violence and
open attacks on government agencies suspected of having information.
History has shown that when a group of people who feel they have
been wronged by their government come to the conclusion that there
is no hope for help, those people react in the only manner left to
them -- violently.
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From: Mike.Keithly@p0.f605.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Mike Keithly)
Subject: Caution For Ufo Investigators
Date: 17 Jun 92 04:45:01 GMT

Marc you replied to me already in the FidoNet UFO echo, or did you have more
to say on the subject.. Mike Keithly

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From: Jim.Speiser@f100.n1010.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Jim Speiser)
Subject: Re: Hard Copy Shows Nasa Ufo Video
Date: 16 Jun 92 15:30:00 GMT

Don:

In a message to Jim Speiser <06-13-92 12:40> Don Ecker wrote:
DE> Well it looks as if my system is now up and running once again.

Welcome back!

DE> determine the approx. rate of speed of the object in "EVENT 2". This
DE> story is only beginning, much more to come. I will advise.

How can the speed be determined without some distance information?

DE> BTW, the business about the object being "piss in space" or as some
DE> pundits are calling the ice from waste water, in PURE crap. The

Well, make up your mind, is it piss or crap? :-) Actually, I think its a
bit early in the investigation to be discarding possible alternative
explanations, especially since we don't have the time-indexed logs yet. The
"bloom" on the screen just prior to the objects turning sure does seem to be
a thruster firing. The ice could have been there from a previous waste water
venting.

Jim

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From: Vladimir.Godic@f7.n1040.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Vladimir Godic)
Subject: What Can We Do?
Date: 18 Jun 92 04:15:00 GMT


> We need a center for research. We need salaried professionals
> and we need sufficient funds to continue major lines of
> research. At the moment we have none of this - and the few
> competent souls that carry the torch are often crushed by
> negative press and self serving entrepreneurs.

You're spot on Tom. But how can we achieve all this? Where do we get the money
for "salaried professionals"? A word of caution here. There are also profess-
ionals who have one track mind when it comes to UFOs, especially if they don't
possess a sound knowledge of the phenomenon. It is much better to use
professionals as consultants and leave UFO research to highly competent,
experienced, honest, non-believer, middle-of-the road, type researchers. Yes,
there are a few competent souls that carry the torch but they are not only
crushed by negative press and self serving entrepeneurs, they are also often
crushed by non-competent researchers and "experts' (who in fact are NOT
researchers or experts) and whose only interest is to write books on the
subject. Our biggest problem is that they sound so convincing and the general
public believe what they read in those books. I prefer to read articles and
refereed documents rather than books. I have had so many arguments with
people who, after I had shown them facts and figures, still prefer to believe
what's written in the "
So and so" book.

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From: Michael.Corbin@p0.f428.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Michael Corbin)
Subject: Mit Abductee's Meeting
Date: 17 Jun 92 06:32:00 GMT


* Forwarded from "
Alt.Alien.Visitors"
* Originally from Crago_l@cubldr.colorado.edu
* Originally dated 06-16-92 18:21

From: crago_l@cubldr.colorado.edu
Date: 16 Jun 92 16:14:46 GMT
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Message-ID: <1992Jun16.091446.1@cubldr.colorado.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors

Hopefully we'll get some information on the MIT conference from
Paranet; meanwhile, this from Sunday's Boston Globe:

People Gather at MIT, Tell of Alien Abductions
by David L. Chandler

BOSTON__ There are hundreds of these people, and the stories they tell
are strikingly similar, and similarly incredible: They were abducted
by aliens, taken aboard a spaceship, poked, examined, sometimes scarred
and eventually returned home.

For the most part, they don't apeak publicly about these memories because
of snickers they invariably elicit. But this weekend, in what may be the
largest gathering ever of UFO abductees and the scientists and authors
who study them, they are meeting at the Massachusetts Institute of
Technology to discuss this phenomenon.

Sponsored by am MIT physicist and a Harvard psychiatrist, the closed,
invitation-only conference is neither sanctioned nor endorsed by MIT,
and all participants have signed a pledge swearing not to divulge what
is said within its four days of sessions.

The meeting is intended to allow abductees and researchers to compare notes
on experiences, how best to conduct such research, and how to help people
troubled by memories they say they have of being abused by aliens. Because
many of the 150 expected participants fear for their jobs if word of
their involvement gets out, conference chairman David Pritchard, an MIT
physicist, is trying to keep the whole thing under wraps.

Until 2-1/2 years ago, Harvard psychiatrist John Mack, cochairman of the
closed meeting, said he was skeptical of the whole idea of UFO abductions.
"
I gave it no credence at all," he said.

But after interviewing more than 60 people who say they have been
kidnapped and experimented upon by aliens, he said, "
the information
I've gotten from them is just staggering." They tell "very consistent
and powerful stories," he said.

Most abduction stories are similar to the ont told by Pat, pseudonym.
Pat said she was lying on her bed several years ago when she became
aware of a blue beam of light in her room. She went outside and saw
police crusers at a nearby lot. That's when she found herself transported
upward into a UFO, where she was examined on a table, her eye was cut with
a knife, and she observed alien beings and children who appeared to be
half-alien, half-human.

Clearly shaken by her recollections of the experience, which she
remembered years later through hypnosis, she said during a recent appearance
on the talk show "
Nighttalk with Jane Whitney" that "I wish I could be a
disbeliever.

"This is not like seeing Elvis at the Kmart," Pat said defensively on the
Whitney show. But, she said, her accounts and those of other abductees are
typically greeted with snickers, making them feel they have been victimized
twice. It was the anguish of people such as Pat that caught Mack's
interest. While not claiming to be able to say what actually happened to these
people, Mack said that he is convinced they are victims of a real trauma
who need help and understanding.

Others think, however, it is the very people doing the "investigations"
who are inducing the traumas.

And many scientists and mental health professionls are willing to believe
these people have indeed experienced something traumatic. But some think
there may be other explanations -- dimly remembered childhood sexual abuse,
for example.

END OF ARTICLE

Regards, Lou Crago

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From: Michael.Corbin@p0.f428.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Michael Corbin)
Subject: Re: Closed Abductee Conference
Date: 17 Jun 92 22:56:00 GMT


* Forwarded from "Alt.Alien.Visitors"
* Originally from Robert Sheaffer
* Originally dated 06-17-92 12:24

From: sheaffer@netcom.com (Robert Sheaffer)
Date: 17 Jun 92 14:13:52 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Message-ID: <lzjld=_.sheaffer@netcom.com>
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors,sci.skeptic

In article <1161@sousa.ltn.dec.com> bottom@hawk1.enet.dec.com () writes:
>
>re:
>>The problem is, anyone attending the conference has to sign a
"confidentiality
>>agreement."

>>
>> Robert Sheaffer - Scepticus Maximus - sheaffer@netcom.com
>
>Mr. Scheaffer get a life, this is absolutely untrue.
>dave
>




(This is the confidentiality agreement sent by mail to all
persons registering for the "Abduction Study Conference" at
M.I.T., June 13-17, 1992. It was necessary to sign this to
receive confirmation of registration.)



Abduction Study Conference

Conferee's Agreement (a condition of attendance at conference)

1. In order to foster free discussion, this conference is
closed to the press. I agree not to indicate in any public
forum who said what at this conference--the proceedings will
be the only quotable conference reference. (Of course you
can reference something as "Dr. X, private communication"
after you have checked that this is OK with Dr. X; just
don't say that she said it at the M.I.T. Abduction Study
Conference.)

2. I agree not to record the conference proceedings.

3. I acknowledge that I can't bring guests into the meeting
rooms. (Guests who purchase the special food badge can join
the conferees at coffee breaks and meals.)

4. I certify that any written material which I submit for
inclusion in the conference proceedings has not been and
will not be submitted for publication elsewhere, except
possibly in a book in which I am the principle (sic) author.
I transfer all right, title, and copyright
permission to David E. Pritchard and John E. Mack, editors,
so they can register copyright for this material as part of
the proceedings of this conference.

5. I grant permission for the conference organizers to record
my presentations, comments, and questions for inclusion
(slightly edited) in the conference proceedings. I do [] do
not [] want my questions and comments to be identified with
my conference name.

SIGNED ______________________________________________


(end)




(However, upon arrival at the registration desk, conference
attendees were required to sign the following, more
restrictive confidentiality agreement.)


Conferee's Agreement
(a condition of attendance at Abduction Study Conference)

1. In order to foster free discussion and protect the
identities of participants and attendees, this is a closed
scientific meeting. It is emphatically closed to the press,
and I agree not to discuss with any reporter or in any
public forum or publication any of the following: material
in the abstracts book for this meeting, what transpired at
this meeting, or who said what at this meeting--the
proceedings will be the only quotable meeting reference. (Of
course you can reference what Dr. X says to you privately as
"private communication, Dr. X"; just don't say that she said
it at the meeting at M.I.T.)

2. I agree not to tape record the meeting.

3. I acknowledge that I can't bring guests into the meeting
room.

4. I grant permission for the meeting organizers to tape
record, transcribe, and edit my comments and questions for
inclusion in the meeting proceedings.

5. I certify that any written material which I submit for
inclusion in the conference proceedings has not been and
will not be submitted for publication elsewhere, except for
a book of which I am the principle (sic) author. I transfer
all right, title, and copyright permission to David E.
Pritchard and John E. Mack, editors, so they can register
copyright for this material as part of the proceedings of
this conference.

6. I realize that MIT has not sponsored or endorsed this
meeting, but only has allowed the conference organizers to
use its facilities. I won't call this the M.I.T. conference
even after the proceedings come out--it will be the
[Abduction Study] Conference at MIT.

SIGNED ____________________________________________________





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Robert Sheaffer - Scepticus Maximus - sheaffer@netcom.com

Past Chairman, The Bay Area Skeptics - for whom I speak only when authorized!

"Every psychic investigator of [the medium] Mrs. Piper was impressed
by her simplicity and honesty. It never occurred to them that no
charlatan ever achieves greatness by acting like a charlatan. No
professional spy acts like a spy. No card cheat behaves at the
table like a card cheat."

- Martin Gardner (writing in "Free Inquiry",
Spring, 1992)

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From: Michael.Corbin@p0.f428.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Michael Corbin)
Subject: Re: Closed Abductee Conference
Date: 17 Jun 92 23:12:00 GMT


* Forwarded from "Alt.Alien.Visitors"
* Originally from Michael Corbin
* Originally dated 06-17-92 16:07

Robert,

First, in answer to your questions about the person(s) at the conference, I
would say that there would be no violation of the confidentiality agreement
that was signed. The persons at the conference are affiliated with ParaNet in
one way or another and have acted as correspondents to our group in the past. I
am sure that they would not act in disregard to their promises made to the
group.

On another note, since you posted the actual agreement, I would ask you to
provide me with information as to who you got this copy from, either via
netmail or in this conference in order that we may verify its accuracy. If
this is an accurate rendition of the actual agreement that the attendees
signed, I feel the tone of the agreement spells more trouble for legit research
as I strongly condemn anything that is done as scientific research which is
conducted under cover. After reading the agreement, I also feel it is simply
another attempt by an up and coming future abduction author to make more money
at publishing stories and not doing anything toward legit research that would
gain an understanding of what is really going on. If this is the case, I will
publicly condemn it. I would also question why the attendees would blatantly
sign over their rights to Pritchard and Mack and allow them to shroud this in
secrecy.

Finally, I am not a scientist, however I would like to know if anyone out there
can comment on how valid this procedure is with regards to actual legit
research. Is this common?

Regards,

Mike

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From: Michael.Corbin@p0.f428.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Michael Corbin)
Subject: MIT Conference
Date: 18 Jun 92 05:21:00 GMT

I recently posted a rendition of a "confidentiality agreement" posted by
Robert Sheaffer in another conference. I would like to know if this type of
agreement is considered proper procedure for an undertaking such as what is
being proposed by Pritchard and Mack?

Mike

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From: Linda.Bird@f100.n1010.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Linda Bird)
Subject: UFO Conferences
Date: 17 Jun 92 19:45:00 GMT

Hi Pete,

So far I have only attended one MUFON conf. and that was in Pensacola
in 1990. I didn't see any weirdos or purple hair types or "crystal
rubbers"
(hehe). I think MUFON is too intellectual for those fringe
elements. However!! I DID see some strange folks at Tim Beckley's
BeckleyCon in Phoenix, Sept. 1991. And, there's another New Age group
trying to form in this area, calling themselves the New Sciences Forum,
but they're really new agers, dog psychologists, channelers, and some
guy who says he was one of the aliens captured at Roswell (but then he
died) - uh huh. (It must be the intense sunlight out here.)

As far as self-destructing -- tsk, tsk. I saw William (Bill) Cooper
doing just that at the BeckleyCon in Sept. '91. Glug glug.

You betcha I'll make a report on the New Mexico Conf., and will type
something else up on a recent MUFON meeting here.

See ya,

Linda

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From: Pete.Porro@f414.n154.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Pete Porro)
Subject: Re: "ANZA UFO" VIDEO
Date: 15 Jun 92 20:15:40 GMT

I was wrong about the price, the bottom of the line marine units like the
one on the show are over $3,000 not $2,000 as I wrote before.

I suppose then could tilt it towards the sky and have a good field to
explore. Range on these things is not that great either. R10X Raytheon $2,295
list (ignore the first part again, I found a discount house) sells for $1799.
Can't find the specs. but some are 8 miles, another was 20 miles. The RT-R10X
if it is 20 miles, is not really long range. I think this was the one on the
show, unless it was the Panasonic.

Either way it sure looked like the standard marine radar.
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From: John.Hicks@f29.n363.z1.FIDONET.ORG (John Hicks)
Subject: "ANZA UFO" VIDEO
Date: 17 Jun 92 07:07:09 GMT


> I suppose then could tilt it towards the sky and have a good field to
> explore.

Yeah, I think that might work fairly well. As I recall, these things have
pretty narrow lobes, since of course sailors generally don't care about
airplanes, so I suspect the up-angle would need to be pretty precise in order
to not see all mountains, or just way overhead etc.
I'm getting a little out of my depth....I've been on boats that had radar...
almost always non-working. And I once saw a roller-furling genoa that had a
nice radome-shaped chunk missing out of it.....they couldn't get it rolled up
so they just let it flog.

jbh

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From: Don.Allen@f29.n363.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Don Allen)
Subject: Don's GB Sighting Report
Date: 17 Jun 92 09:40:02 GMT




**** Don's Gulf Breeze Sighting Report ****


This past weekend (6/13-14), I left for a 3 day weekend to meet some
friends up in the Gulfbreeze area. I arrived shortly before 5 in the
afternoon as it was a 7 1/2 hour drive from my home in Sanford,Fla to
the Pensacola city limits. Right after I arrived, a friend took me on
a tour of the Gulf Breeze area, starting with Shoreline Park and
ending up at Fort Pickens. This was my first trip. I stayed at
the Gulfbreeze Holiday Inn (51 Gulf Breeze Pkwy), which overlooks
Pensacola Bay. We met the following people for dinner at the
Inn's Bon Appetit restaurant: Dr. Steven Greer of CSETI, Rosemary
Ellen Guiley, Director of the Center for North American Crop
Circle Studies, Bruce and Ann Morrison of the Gulf breeze Skywatch
organization, Vicki Lyons, Bob Oueschler, Boots Eckert, Field
Investigator for Pensacola MUFON. After a lively dinner, we headed
out to Fort Pickens, which is across the bridge from Gulf Breeze
and drove to a spot that Dr. Steven Greer,Oueschler and Bruce
Morrison had picked earlier in the day. It was a "pull-off" spot
off the main road large enough for about 20 vehicles. I would
estimate that around 40 people were gathered there within a short
time of our arrival at 9:30 pm on Saturday night on June 13th.

To better describe this location: This is a long road on a very narrow
island, which dead-ends into the Spanish Fort . We were about
4 miles away from the actual Fort itself. At our backs was the Gulf, and
in front of us was the rear side of the Pensacola Bay. From where we were
situated, you could look across Pensacola Bay and see towards Shoreline
Park, which is the area that many of the sightings have occurred.

Bob Oueschler had his small pickup truck loaded down with a
considerable amount of video gear. Both he and Bruce Morrison
had several video cams set up, and Bob had a camera on loan
that he was using from Bruce Maccabee which he told me
was a .51 lux and it was very long,narrow and had an accompanying
monitor to help out in the focusing process. There were, I
would estimate at _least_ 15 video cameras set up. These ranged
from the hand held type to the tripod mounted complete with very
long telephoto lenses attached. Bruce Morrison was saying that
the *previous* night (6/12) that his Skywatch team had observed
the GB UFO arising _from_ Pensacola Bay. While I was conversing
with both Bob Oueschler and Bruce Morrison, Dr. Steven Greer,
and a few members of his CSETI group, went down to the nearby
beach and did their "thought-sequencing" thing (more of a
meditative type deal). They were a few minutes into doing this,
when they re-joined the rest of us and started using their hand
held 1/2 million candlepower lights to create triangular patterns
in the night sky. It was about 10:15 at this point. Bruce Morrison
had informed us that the GB UFO had been keeping to a "schedule"
of around 10:30 for the last 5 nights so we watched as Greer's
group was doing the "light-sequencing thing" and the rest
of us took to saying "C'mon bubba!" (this is what the locals
call the GB UFO :-) . All of the video cameras were pointed toward
the bridge in the direction of Shoreline Park, as Bruce had
indicated earlier that this was the most likely direction that
the GB UFO would appear (he was later proved right). We watched
the sky and noted all the aircraft coming and going (it's fairly
busy)..noted all the constellations and even tracked a satellite
going over to identify all the items that were recognizable and
non-UFO. Noted that Jupiter was fairly bright. Noted we had a full
moon partially obscured behind clouds to the rear of us.

I was down at the other end of the parking lot talking to some
people when I heard Bruce yell out "There it is!"..rushed over
to Bob Oueschler's pickup and looking up saw a BRILLIANT white
light over Pensacola Bay and in the direction that Bruce said
it would be. I would estimate it to have been about 2 miles away
from us and it appeared to be about 3-4000 ft high. As we watched,
the LIGHT flashed several times very quickly, then it changed colors
from white to a deep red. The change to red lasted several seconds
and it faded out altogether for 7 sec by my watch as if a rheostat
had been turned down. It came back to white seconds later, and I
could see flashes of green, then once more back to red. Duration
of this sighting lasted just a bit over 1 minute. During this time,
no movement was observed. The object did a slow fade and was not seen
anymore. Suffice it to say, that everyone who was present and had
video cameras got it all on tape. At NO time, were _sparks_ observed
nor any "flare-like" behaviour observed.

There's been much discussion as to this being a "flare". Uh, right guys..

Flares give off SPARKS and aren't noted to fade in and out, change from
white to red and back several times. What I observed was definately NOT
a "flare". Bruce Morrison told me of an experiment that was performed
a long time back when a local TV station _did_ sent up a balloon-lofted
flare to compare it with the readily available video of this object and
the two were broadcasted over the local station side by side. NOT EVEN
CLOSE!

I would not go so far as to say that I observed an "alien craft"..in my
opinion, it was anomolous phenomena. I could NOT make out any structure
that would have shown it to be a "craft", but then again it was quite a
distance away and perhaps digital enhancement may prove useful in this
respect. I wonder if anyone has bothered to contact Jim Moore, the
cameraman for station KHOU in Houston, that showed the film to the
Houston area during the airing of the "Intruders" movie. I understand
from sources that his digital enhancement _did_ show the outline of the
"Ed Craft".

And finally, I did speak a little bit with the "UFO Rainmaker", Dr.
Steven Greer. A very interesting fellow and one in whom I believe you
will be hearing more on in the next few months.

As I read Chris Rutkowski's June issue of "The Swamp Gas Journal"
(and thanks for the mention :-), I read his comments imploring others
to get more involved in this case and I heartily agree. It *always*
struck me as being mightily presumptous of _some_ people to have dismissed
the GB UFO's as being a "hoax" when these people have NEVER stepped foot
in the state of Florida and done any investigation on their own!

Time to get off your duffs guys. Bruce Morrison has over 400 video tapes
of this object and Bob Oueschler probably has quite a few as well. It's
high time the UFOlogical community got over their "Ed-bashing" and
start getting more directly INVOLVED. Like flying into Pensacola
and spending time with the principals..visiting the sites. Bring
some equipment with you and sit out with the Skywatch team and get bit
by the mosquitoes like everyone else :-)

In case anyone is interested, here's the telephone numbers of a couple
of people very much involved and that could provide some further info:

Bruce and Ann Morrison - Gulf Breeze Skywatch: 904-433-2737

Boots Eckert - Field Investigator - MUFON : 904-438-3261

Also, Dr. Steven Greer can be reached at: 704-274-5671 (Asheville,N.C.)


Don


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