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Info-ParaNet Newsletters Volume I Number 554
Wednesday, May 20th 1992
(C) Copyright 1992 Paranet Information Service. All Rights Reserved.
Today's Topics:
ROAD FLARES
Mach6 Spy Plane
Books: Oldies but goodies
Gulf Breeze
skeptics etc.
Re: ROAD FLARES
Gb Lights
Lockheed Rumors
Gulf Breeze road flares
Chinese scientists explore UFO mysteries
....
Re: Another Hoax..ed "the Toymaker" Walters
Aussie sightings
Aussie UFOs
Re: Ufo-pics From Ed Walters,New Arguments
UFO Related Shows
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From: John.Hicks@f29.n363.z1.FIDONET.ORG (John Hicks)
Subject: ROAD FLARES
Date: 13 May 92 05:56:06 GMT
> against the wind, jiggle it back and forth, let it run out and stop etc.
Now to stir the pot....I've heard that someone saw Ed Walters' truck parked
near the fishing pier at the foot of the bridge at about the same time the
folks at Shoreline Park were watching a red light.
FWIW.
*But* there's usually assorted people fishing all along the old bridge/
fishing pier, so I think it'd be very difficult to pull it off from that area
without being noticed. But a _boat_ would be just dandy......
jbh
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From: John.Hicks@f29.n363.z1.FIDONET.ORG (John Hicks)
Subject: Mach6 Spy Plane
Date: 13 May 92 05:59:07 GMT
> the shapes were on the end of what appeared to be very short
> connecting "wings" on either side of the fuselage. He said it made a
> loud
> whining or humming sound, moved very slowly and then zoomed away.
That sounds like a V-22 Osprey. The engine pods at the wingtips swivel
vertically and the aircraft becomes a helicopter; when they're horizontal it
flies like an ordinary airplane.
I *think* the Marines and Coast Guard have them in service now.
jbh
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From: John.Hicks@f29.n363.z1.FIDONET.ORG (John Hicks)
Subject: Books: Oldies but goodies
Date: 13 May 92 06:04:08 GMT
> It doesn't appear he is going to mention "legitimate abductees"
He gets into that in _Revelations_. The premise is that at least some of them
are indeed abductees...but not by space aliens. He proposes that some legit
"abductees" may have been snatched by government or pseudo-government agencies
for whatever experimental reasons.
He does present some support for this idea, but it's been so long since I
read _Revelations_ that I've forgotten the particulars.
jbh
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From: John.Hicks@f29.n363.z1.FIDONET.ORG (John Hicks)
Subject: Gulf Breeze
Date: 13 May 92 06:15:09 GMT
> asked what came out of the finding of the model in Ed's old house?
Here's the gist of is, as best I can recall from conversations with Bruce
Maccabee and Rex Salisberry.
Ed's claim is that the model was made of house plans that weren't drawn until
*after* the incidents. He says that apparently someone rummaged through his
trash can and found them.
There's no specific identifier in the plans (cutout pieces, actually) of the
date or location of the planned house; there's just a number which apparently
indicates the total square footage of the house.
Ed says the plans were drawn for a client, who subsequently built the house
and has provided a statement which says that he commissioned the design on a
date later than Ed's encounters.
Rex Salisberry told me that some believe the plans were actually for another
house of the same total square footage, on another street, and designed for
another client. This design was done *before* Ed's incidents.
Apparently there's not enough of the plans left to determine which house they
were for.
So now Bruce claims that his investigations confirm that the plans were for
the later-designed house, and the other side says they were for the previously
-designed house. So far as I've heard, no one has yet conclusively proved it
one way or the other.
An interesting side note.....the model closely matches the sketch in Ed's
book, and contains some features that do *not* appear in the photos.
Another note....the current owner of Ed's old house had found the model
several months earlier than the news hit the media, and told no one. *Shortly
before* the MUFON Symposium was held in Pensacola, a newspaper reporter
approached the homeowner and specifically asked him if he'd found a model.
Curious.
More than you ever wanted to know, right? ;-)
jbh
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From: John.Hicks@f29.n363.z1.FIDONET.ORG (John Hicks)
Subject: skeptics etc.
Date: 13 May 92 06:17:10 GMT
> It is real hard to be an honest Skeptic these days. The Debunking
> Faction considers honest Skeptics to be Believers, which I find
> extremely
> insulting, and the Believers treat honest Skeptics as Debunkers, which
> is about equally insulting...
If you've been following my piddling around with the Gulf Breeze thing for a
while, you know I've been getting the best of both worlds. ;-)
I once had both sides a little irked at me.
jbh
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From: Pete.Porro@f414.n154.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Pete Porro)
Subject: Re: ROAD FLARES
Date: 13 May 92 14:51:05 GMT
As usual I'm not saying this is the answer, just a possible explination.
Hoaxers and pranksters have been around forever, not just in the UFO
community. Piltdown man was a great one for archaeology. I used to have a
book that refered to it, that was published before it was discovered to be a
hoax. Most science is willing to adjust theories and wisdom when new
information alters old ideas. Meanwhile some people hang on to the old
information even after it's been proven to be in error. (Holes in the poles,
flat earth, Philly Project, Gods from outer space, Bermuda Triangle, etc.)
I could see no reason for ED to be sending things up. He's too well known
and would be suspect. I think someone else is out having fun. One thing that
bothers me is that they appear when film crews are scheduled, or when wather
groups are going to be present. Sort of like a command preformance. It's
highly suspecious. One video has someone swinging the camera around, but the
object stands still. Another they show is slow motion of the light flickering
white.
I'm looking forward to the Fox show this weekend which I think will have the
guys with the lasers that they said attracted UFO's when they projected
images up in the sky. Would this be a way to bait UFO's? Interesting idea.
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From: Don.Sudduth@p0.f26.n1012.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Don Sudduth)
Subject: Gb Lights
Date: 15 May 92 13:26:00 GMT
> By the way, when Greer asked the lady that had 120
> previous UFO sightings
> what she did, she said she just watched. Greer is
> here to tell us we need to
> make contact: CE5 == human initiated contact. DON'T
> JUST WATCH - DO SOME-
> THING! Wave, send out thoughts, blink lights - DO
> SOMETHING - don't just sit
> there and watch like a bunch of cows!
Why does it sound like someone is playing quite a game with Dr. Greer? People
may be seeing something in Gulf Breeze, but I'm not convinced at all that its
extraterrestrial.
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From: shemtaia.weeg.uiowa.edu!jrblack
Subject: Lockheed Rumors
Date: 15 May 92 21:40:09 GMT
From: James Roger Black <jrblack@shemtaia.weeg.uiowa.edu>
In alt.sci.physics.new-theories on Usenet News, noring@netcom.com
(Jon Noring) writes:
+ Hello,
+
+ I talked today with an electrical engineer who worked at Lockheed for a while,
+ but is no longer there. He said that there are rumors circulating at Lockheed
+ about the U.S. Government developing very advanced flying craft with new
+ propulsion systems that were successfully reverse-engineered from a supposed
+ alien spacecraft which crashed (?Roswell), and that several companies,
+ including Lockheed, are helping out in the engineering of such craft. Test
+ flights are supposedly taking place at several of the top-secret bases (he
+ mentioned Tonopah). This engineer had also heard of 'Aurora', but believed
+ these rumors to not be for that 'project', rather for a post-Aurora, or
+ something to that effect.
+
+ Of course, I've heard of similar rumors on alt.aliens.visitors for a while,
+ but this engineer is not your flaky new-ager who'll believe in anything; he
+ is quite conservative. He is skeptical of the truth of these rumors, but
+ commented nevertheless that he finds the extent of the rumors, and other
+ information he didn't want to share with me, to be mighty strange, and he has
+ decided to withhold judgement until he gets more information.
+
+ Anyway, my question, especially to those who work for Lockheed and other
+ military/aerospace contractors: have you heard similar rumors? (Of course,
+ if the rumors were to be true, and you knew something about it, you wouldn't
+ tell. But if you don't have firsthand knowledge, then you're probably free
+ to at least share what rumors are flying around at your company.)
+
+ I look forward to feedback from everybody. Even if the rumors are untrue (the
+ more likely scenario), it certainly adds spice to life thinking about them.
+
+ Jon Noring
+
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From: watson.acc.Virginia.EDU!JBB
Subject: Gulf Breeze road flares
Date: 15 May 92 21:41:49 GMT
From: JBB@watson.acc.Virginia.EDU
Re: Gulf Breeze 'road flare' controversy
During last years' SSE (Society for Scientific Exploration) meeting
held here at the University of Virginia, Dr. Bruce Maccabee presented
a slide taken of a Gulf Breeze 'road flare' by an amateur photographer.
The camera, Bruce reported, was a conventional 35mm single-lens reflex
and, if I recall correctly, sported a 200mm f5.6 lens. This particular
photograph had been taken with a 4 second shutter speed. Precise details
regarding camera support escape me at the moment but I believe it was
was hand-held with the photographer resting his arms or hands against a
balcony rail for stability. Immediately before, during and after the
exposure, the subjective appearance of the object was that of a some-
what dim red light characteristic of many post-Ed GB sightings.
As one might expect under these conditions the photograph showed not a
single circular light source but a serpentine trace as the object and/or
camera shifted position over the course of the exposure with respect to
the camera's initial alignment. The most salient feature of the resulting
trace was that it's hue was not uniformly red as expected. Instead, it
appeared chromatically 'banded' in a regular way as though the source
frequency itself was being systematically and periodically swept across
the visible spectrum.
During his presentation, Bruce pointed out that there were over 200 such
bands within the serpentine trace and I recall seeing several dark gaps
which I tend now to interpret as an indication that the source frequency
extented at times beyond the visible spectrum. Of course, this is merely
speculation after the fact as I have made no measurements on the actual
trace and memory serves poorly when one attempt to make a point. Still,
it was a curious photograph and I know of no road flares or any other
'simple' source for that matter that would behave in a similar fashion. On
the other hand, one shouldn't rule out the possibility.
Comments anyone?
Joseph Burch jbb@virginia.edu
Academic Computing Center (804) 982-4699
University of Virginia
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From: 'Leping N Zha' <leping@unix.cis.pitt.edu>
Subject: Chinese scientists explore UFO mysteries
Date: Fri, 15 May 92 16:36:18 -0400
From: 'Leping N Zha' <leping@unix.cis.pitt.edu>
Keywords: international, space, science, ufo, human interest
BEIJING (UPI) -- Chinese scientists are huddling this week to explore
the latest mysteries of unidentified flying objects, from reports of
sightings and abductions to claims that Chinese mystics are in contact
with life on other planets.
The nearly 200 researchers from around the country are meeting in
Beijing at a conference sponsored by the China UFO Research Society, the
national organization that coordinates studies in China of ``fei die,''
which in Chinese means ``flying saucer.''
The society, known by its English acronym CURO, is engaged in
research that spans the gamut from cold science to the weird and wacky,
including efforts to speak to outer space without all the high-tech
gadgetry employed by Western researchers.
``One of our important missions is to establish a way for people on
Earth to communicate with other planets without resorting to modern
communications methods,'' said Wang Changting, the research society's
affable director.
Nearly 5,000 UFO-type sightings have been reported in China since the
late 1970s, with all but around 200 later discounted as natural or man-
made objects such as weather phenonema and aircraft.
The unsolved cases include sightings of floating basketballs, orange-
lit washbasins and flying straw hats. Around 40 of those are the ``close
encounters'' variety, with reports of contact or kidnappings by vaguely
described extraterrestrials.
In one case, a teacher in eastern Tianjin reported seeing a
shimmering ball overhead as he bicycled around a park at night. He lost
consciousness and awoke the next morning at the park gate to find the
time on his watch an hour behind the actual time.
A month later, he suddenly recalled having been abducted onto a
strange craft by two short beings in unidentifiable space suits.
Along with those reports, and research into related topics like
atmospheric phenomena, some of the 3,500 CURO members nationwide are
studying claims by Chinese mystics that they can locate UFOs or
communicate with aliens.
Some claim to use ``qigong,'' a practice that marshals the Chinese
concept of life energy, to make contact. Although qigong is an accepted
exercise discipline, adherents also make fantastic claims of
supernatural powers or faith healing ability.
``Sometimes we cannot mix Western reality and Oriental belief,''
shrugged Wang. ``Of course there are some illogical things involved, but
the line between science and mysticism cannot be separated only as
illogic.''
Among other areas of research are theoretical and practical studies
of space flight, the possibility of life on other planets and the
potential impact of UFOs on the Earth's environment.
UFO research is taken seriously in China. Several years ago, a UFO
sighting over an open air film show in rural south China sparked a
stampede by panicked villagers that left two people dead and 300
injured.
The Chinese military, which sometimes scrambles air force jets to try
to catch a glimpse of UFOs, conducts its own UFO studies and maintains
contact with CURO researchers, Wang said.
But not even scientists are immune to the more outlandish aspects of
UFOs, he added, noting a report by a CURO researcher who claimed he had
been ``invited'' aboard a space craft and taken to a planet thousands of
light years away.
``This man was a scientist, so we don't believe that what he told us
is altogether nonsense,'' Wang said. ``But we can't explain it.''
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From: 'Leping N Zha' <leping@unix.cis.pitt.edu>
Subject: ....
Date: Fri, 15 May 92 16:36:28 -0400
From: 'Leping N Zha' <leping@unix.cis.pitt.edu>
Chinese and Soviet Scientists Cooperate to Confirm
Existence of the 'Jinluo' Line ( Meridian Channels )
Reflexology (manipulating areas on the feet to affect the rest of the
body) was listed as 'near bizarre' in a recent Times cover article on the
alternative therapies [Claudia Wallis, 'Why New Age Medicine is Catching On',
November 4, 1991], compared with the 'more credible' treatments like
acupuncture, while in fact they are both based on the same ancient Chinese
theory of 'Jinluo' system, the critical "meridian line network" which links
virtually all the human (and animals as well reportedly) parts and passes
the 'qi' through them to maintain one's health and vitality. These channels
are also strongly believed by most Chinese parapsychological researchers
as well as qigong masters as the pathway of the subtle energies which
carries psi information [@i[L. Zha & T. MeConnell, 'Parapsychology in the
People's Republic of China: 1979-1989', JASPR, 85, 119-143(1991)]].
There are huge number of papers on relations between Jinluo system and
psi functions published in China since 1979. Some reported the ESP message's
propagating speed along the lines as a typically 15 to 50 centimeters per
second among the gifted EFHB (Exceptional Functions of Human Body, the
Chinese term for ESP and PK) children and qigong masters [Zhuang Jianxiang,
et al. (Inst. of Space Medico-Engineering, ISME), 'Measurements on Human
Electromagnetic Energy Field', Ziran Zazhi(Chinese Nature Journal), 11,
43-51(1988)], a figure well above the control group's (0.1 to 14 centimeters
per second). They observed that once the 'qi feelings' (usually tingling and
bloating) reach their forehead, the desired ESP information appears as an
'image' on a special "TV screen" there. There are as many patients receiving
the Jinlou-theory based traditional Chinese medicine therapy regularly today
as those using Western medicine, in the country where one fourth the earth's
population lives (many actually use both simultaneously since it is not
unusual for a Western medicine doctor, 'Xi-Yi' as called, also prescripts the
traditional Chinese 'Zhong-Yi' drugs and treatments along with their Aspirin
pills, etc.), since they took the existence of the Jinluo system as an well
established fact right from their birth.
No convincing anatomic evidence of these channels was found so far,
but the hot subject is carried in many state-funded Chinese traditional
medicine centers, research institutes and universities. Professor Zhu
Zongxiang, who leads a group in the Institute of Biophysics of the Chinese
Academy of Science (Academia Sinica) claimed that from 17 year's careful
studies in his lab, they had proven there are really 14 Jinluo lines in the
human body by at least three independent and distinctive biophysical features,
including low electric impedance, high electric potential, and acoustic or
thermographic conductive characteristics as compared with the channel's
adjacent areas. Also, as they reported, the most important meridian phenomenon,
known as propagating sensation along channel (PSC, the current of numb,
distensive feelings propagating during needling at an acupoint), has been
extensively studied and verified by classical physiological experiments such
as ECG, EEG, EMG (electromyograph), EGG (electrogastrograph), local impedance
rheogram, etc. [Zhu Zongxiang, Xu Ruimin, et al., 'A Study on the Low
Impedance characteristics of the Meridian Lines before and after amputation',
Ziran Zazhi, 9, 281-287(1986); Zhu Zongxiang, 'The Advances and Prospect in
Physiological and Biophysical Approaches to the Acupuncture Meridian System',
Ziran Zazhi, 9, 327-332(1986); Zhu Zongxiang, et al., Acupuncture Research,
5, 308- (1980), 7, 169- , 238- , 299- (1982), 8, 73- (1983); etc.].
A detailed experimental channel location map had been produced by 1989. These
claims have brought wide attentions among Chinese scientists and news media,
partially because many of their claims are contradictory to another popular
school of general believe that the channel system relies on the
non-equilibrium physiological dynamic processes of the living body
and therefore it will not be detectable @i[in vitro].
According to a recent report of the official Xinhua News Agency
(September 26, Beijing, by Zhu Baihua), Chinese and Soviet scientists are
cooperating closely to further reveal the reality of meridian channels by
modern Biophysical means, and major progress has been achieved.
>From the source, the research center headed by Professor Zhu signed a
collaborate agreement with the Institute of Cytological Biophysics, Soviet
Academy of Science, to lunch a series of morphological and biochemical
experiments on Jinluo. The Soviet scientists would investigate the special
structure of the channels by optical and electron microscopes, as well as
to measure the lines objectively by biochemical (enzymic) methods.
The news reports that the scientists from the both sides had made
exchanges frequently since May, 1990. A delegation led by Professor Zhu
visited the Soviet site in the past June, and Dr. Klamov (name translated
from Chinese), director of the Cytological Biophysics Institute's radiology
department, is working in the Professor Zhu's lab in Beijing. The report says
the Russian researchers have successfully detected acupoints which on the
whole agree with the Jinluo map made by Zhu's group.
Also from other Xinhua reports, Dr. Qian Xuesen, the prominent
Chinese rocketeer, Dr. Robert Jahn(PEAR, Princeton University)'s
predecessor of the Goddard Professorship in the
Cal. Tech. Jet Propulsion Laboratory who has
been providing the crucial supports to China's psi studies from the very
beginning, was granted by the party a one-of-the-kind 'Outstanding Scientific
Contribution Award' which was described as the highest honor ever to a
scientist in China. The Chinese government had also started a 'learn from
Dr. Qian' movement throughout the nation's scientific and technological units.
In the grant awarding ceremony attended by the party's top leaders, Dr. Qian
mentioned that he will aim to further advance the 'Somatic Science' research
in China, along with the many other mentioned subjects like the Biological
Sciences and the System Engineering.
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From: Jim.Speiser@f100.n1010.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Jim Speiser)
Subject: Re: Another Hoax..ed 'the Toymaker' Walters
Date: 15 May 92 15:11:00 GMT
MC> Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
MC>
MC>
MC> Oh, boy.
MC>
MC> I have to admit that the photographs in Ed Walters' book "The Gulf
MC> Breeze Sightings" looked very convincing to me, backed up as they
This message should be in the next Continuum.
Jim
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From: Keith.Basterfield@f12.n1040.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Keith Basterfield)
Subject: Aussie sightings
Date: 15 May 92 00:04:00 GMT
Thanks to people who have mentioned the sightings on the 28th April
1992 originating out of the central Coast of New South Wales, just
north of Sydney. The news media here carried reports on one day and
then the media interest died. I have initiated investigations via our
local members of the UFORA network and hope to post details shortly.
One complicating factor might be the joint Australian/US naval
excercise off the coast that night.
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From: Vladimir.Godic@f7.n1040.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Vladimir Godic)
Subject: Aussie UFOs
Date: 17 May 92 04:35:00 GMT
> * Forwarded from "UFO"
> * Originally by Chris Rutkowski
> * Originally to All
> * Originally dated 28 Apr 1992, 9:34
>
> According to the news today, there was a major UFO event with
> multiple
> witnesses in New South Wales last night (27 April 1992) [or
> today, since we cross the Date Line, I think]. A large, round
> object hovered over a small town, was seen by dozens of
> witnesses and the local police received many calls from
> =hysterical= people reporting their observations. After
> hovering over town for a while, the object flashed red and green
> lights, then flew away at high speed.
> ...............................................
> Since I know there are a few Aussies on this echo, maybe they
> can post more information. Tell Mark Moravic I said hello.
The US Navy, including aircraft carrier Independence, is in Australia
for the Battle of Coral Sea (50th anniversary) celebrations - so
anything goes at the moment. We are led to believe that most of these
reports are due to aircraft and helicopters flying around. Other than
that, there is a (unconfirmed) report of a large meterorite crashing
on earth. We'll let you know when, and if, we receive any further
reports. What we know for sure is that US sailors are having good
time in Sydney.
I'll tell Mark Moravec "hello" the next time I write to him. He is not
on Paranet.
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From: Tom.Davis@f201.n350.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Tom Davis)
Subject: Re: Ufo-pics From Ed Walters,New Arguments
Date: 18 May 92 00:29:00 GMT
Being a Star Trek fan, I am ashamed that I missed the obvious. Your
comments are right on target.
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From: Mark.Rodeghier@f29.n363.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Mark Rodeghier)
Subject: UFO Related Shows
Date: 15 May 92 21:39:00 GMT
I'm not an expert on UFOs but it sure seems to me that there are a lot of TV
shows on lately that have a common theme, that being UFO related topics.
Is something going that I'm not aware of or has Hollywood latched onto
another gold mine?
Mark
Not to be confused with the other Mark Rodeghier :-)
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