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Info-ParaNet Newsletters Volume 1 Number 544
Info-ParaNet Newsletters Volume I Number 544
Monday, April 6th 1992
(C) Copyright 1992 Paranet Information Service. All Rights Reserved.
Today's Topics:
Re: 92 Ufo Con-colospgs
Re: Cable Radio Show
Msg
The B-2 Ufo
Mute Controversy
Re: 92 Ufo Con-colospgs
CNN Headline News clip 4/2/92
Orthodox Nazca Reference
The Ninevah Number
Black Technology...
Miami time warp
Puzzle/Question
NASA completes asteroid workshop studies (Forwarded)
Don Ecker and Phil Klass!!
Re: 92 Ufo Con-colospgs
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From: Linda.Bird@f100.n1010.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Linda Bird)
Subject: Re: 92 Ufo Con-colospgs
Date: 31 Mar 92 02:52:00 GMT
Hi Peggy,
Those conferences are way out of my price range. Am thinking of going
to the MUFON conf. in July as I could drive over there easily in a day.
I ought to come out to Denver and see you and Mike Corbin; could easily
do that on the price of one conference ticket!
How far are you from Albuquerque (spelled right!!)? And could you
attend the July MUFON there?
See ya,
Linda
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From: Tom.Davis@f201.n350.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Tom Davis)
Subject: Re: Cable Radio Show
Date: 30 Mar 92 06:40:00 GMT
But, but, there's always Seattle. The Goodwill Games almost did us
in by showing the entire country what the weather is really like out
here. Rats. And we have award-winning TV stations and radio stations,
active volcanoes (yes, St. Helens is still active, but the media has
lost interest), and we get less rain than New York City does; but we
don't broadcast that very much.
What better place for a radio show than within the shadow of Mt.
Rainier where the modern movement began in 1942? Hmmm, Don? Are you
listening? :)
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From: Vladimir.Godic@f6.n1040.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Vladimir Godic)
Subject: Msg
Date: 2 Apr 92 04:31:00 GMT
> To: Keith Basterfield,
> Keith, have you gotten the msgs. I have sent you recently? Is
> Paranet
> Research still alive? I've gotten nothing on that net for weeks.
> My msg.
> was on HumCat and your Australian CEIII cases. Please
> acknowledge this
> msg.; I will resend if necessary.
> Dave
Dave,
Keith asked me to reply to your message and to confirm that he HAS
received your message and replied. If you didn't get it, then there
must be something wrong your end. We have no problem with our system
here.
Regards,
Vlad
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From: Don.Ecker@p0.f3.n1012.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Don Ecker)
Subject: The B-2 Ufo
Date: 2 Apr 92 10:04:00 GMT
Anson Kennedy asked;
> Next (obvious) question:
>
> In which back issues were the articles?
Anson, Tony Gonsalves story ran in *UFO Magazine Vol. 5 #3, and Vol. 5 #6.
> Could you give me a hint about his research in the meantime?
What Gonsalves proposed was that portions of the aircraft were built using
recovered disc technology, ie he thought that it could hover.
Best;
Don
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From: Michael.Corbin@p0.f428.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Michael Corbin)
Subject: Mute Controversy
Date: 2 Apr 92 22:14:00 GMT
* Forwarded from "ParaNet General Echo"
* Originally from Sheldon Wernikoff
* Originally dated 03-31-92 22:22
Peggy... I finally was able to get through to Dr. King this
afternoon, and as you previously stated, found him to be most
accommodating, informative, and interested in clarifying the cattle
mutilation "mystery".
His opinion that the mutilations do not represent any "other-
worldly" events still stands, and he remains confident that most of
the Howe-Altshuler cases are explicable through predation
mechanisms. He does not believe that many of the killings are
related to cult sacrifice, although he acknowledges the fact that
cult killing does occur.
The eye wounds and "cookie cutter incisions" Altshuler describes
are consistent with what is effected by predatory birds, such as
vultures, and represent nothing remarkable. Coyotes and cats often
will eat the tongue of a dead cow, which usually hangs out of the
mouth. The anal and genital areas are also choice tidbits for the
predators. As far as the various microscopic cytological changes
Altshuler reports, King stated that wounds made by animals (or
himself for that matter) would exhibit similar effects, and that
these effects need not be generated solely by high-heat
instruments.
The "bloodless" corpse also seems to have a more prosaic
explanation. Apparently, when the cow dies, the blood is not
drained, but the plasma (liquid) portion of the blood is absorbed
into the surrounding tissues, causing cellular distention. The
solid components of the blood (erythrocytes, leukocytes, platelets,
etc.) remain in the arteries, veins and capillaries. If you cut
into the cow's flesh, or attempt to draw blood, none will flow
because the vehicle (plasma) has left the venous system due to
osmotic pressure. However, all of the blood constituents are still
there in the cow, except for some of the water content. King also
stated that many of the cows that were examined were dead for
*days*, not freshly killed as often stated by H & A, causing
dehydration and subsequent exacerbation of the "bloodless"
condition. King indicated that Altshuler, being an M.D., should be
aware of this.
What really bothers me Peggy, is the fact that many "believers"
never even get the opportunity to hear alternative explanations
such as King's, because H & A don't present them. IMHO, H & A are
not being totally honest with us, but more importantly, they are
not being honest with themselves.
When I finally asked King why he thought Howe and Altshuler were
continuing with their "mutilation circuit", he stated "probably
because there's a good buck in it." Unless H & A begin to present
a more objective perspective of the 'phenomenon', I tend to agree
with King's assessment. How do you feel about all this Peggy?
Once again, thanks for supplying the excellent referral. ParaNet
has come through again.
--Sheldon @ FIDO 1:11/50
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From: Michael.Corbin@p0.f428.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Michael Corbin)
Subject: Re: 92 Ufo Con-colospgs
Date: 2 Apr 92 23:28:00 GMT
> How far are you from Albuquerque (spelled right!!)? And could you
> attend the July MUFON there?
We are about 400 miles from Albuquerque. Would love to see you.
Mike
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From: wam.umd.edu!infinity
Subject: CNN Headline News clip 4/2/92
Date: 3 Apr 92 02:20:18 GMT
From: Triopedus Psyplovortisle <infinity@wam.umd.edu>
During the 11:30 AM edition of CNN Headline News (not to be confused with
the other, main, CNN channel), a 10-15 second clip was done that had something
to do with alien abductions. I caught very little of it because the TV volume
was too low and I was obstructed by a long counter. It contained,
'.....was/were abducted by aliens... ... no reason to believe it did not
happen.' Was a new TREAT report released? Was another implant examined?
Has a major public official, scientist, or psychologist just come forward
admitting having been abducted? Did CNN pick up on a conference being
held of the phenomenon? I believe they once mentioned a UFO symposium or
conference being held maybe a year ago. Any ideas?
More galactic thoughts from:
Amicitia Subjugat Omnia Hweohthte... (Hwe-oath-T)
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8125 48th Ave, Apt. 612
College Park, MD 20740 1-(301)-474-7424
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From: wam.umd.edu!infinity
Subject: Orthodox Nazca Reference
Date: 3 Apr 92 05:04:46 GMT
From: David E. Coleman <infinity@wam.umd.edu>
For those of you interested in the Nazca lines, I present to you the
'orthodox' non-Atlantean non-UFO conventional interpretation that
I found listed somewhere recently, I forget where.
'The Nazca Lines: Patterns in the Desert'
Archaeology, 39:4 (July-August, 1986), pp. 32-39.
I have yet to check it out yet myself, but I believe it is safe to assume
for now that this publication offers the conventional interpretation.
In what I have read in books, the conventional interpretation is
based on evidence that the symbols in the desert resemble those in the
surrounding ancient cultures. Ah, now I remember, the _Archaeology_ article
discusses the view that the geometry in the lines can be created without
significant land geometry technology. Personally, I think it would be a
big stretch to say this is so, and it is just one of hundreds of similar
stretches (the hauling and positioning of Easter Island statues, the
enormous 'brick' at Baalbek, the Piri Reis maps, etc, that little skeptical
explanations (that is 'litter,' not little.) The Lubaantun crystal skull,
the granite spheres of Central America supposedly caused by something like
subterranean acid weathering, in spite of toolmarks, etc...
I believe I got the _Archaeology_ reference from the 1990
Art & Archaeology Abstracts.
More galactic thoughts from:
Amicitia Subjugat Omnia Hweohthte... (Hwe-oath-T)
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David E. Coleman infinity@wam.umd.edu
8125 48th Ave, Apt. 612
College Park, MD 20740 1-(301)-474-7424
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From: wam.umd.edu!infinity
Subject: The Ninevah Number
Date: 3 Apr 92 05:05:27 GMT
From: David E. Coleman <infinity@wam.umd.edu>
I think I read about a c.15 digit number beginning with 19 that was found
in Sumeria. I think I read about this in TWELFTH PLANET, by Sitchin, but
I am not sure. If anyone knows of this number and can find a reference for
me to check (page number?) without it being much trouble, I would quite
appreciate it.
The reason why I ask is that the Spirit Guides of Ruth Montgomery
mention in her books a similar number that exists 'in Ninevah' and
represents part of a lost understanding of geometry that led to things
such as the Great Pyramid. Ruth Montgomery does not mention that such a
number has been found to exist. It is a statement that such a number could
be found. I can't remember how many digits her Guides say there are in the
number.
Thanks in advance.
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8125 48th Ave, Apt. 612
College Park, MD 20740 1-(301)-474-7424
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From: Jim.Graham@f13.n1012.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Jim Graham)
Subject: Black Technology...
Date: 2 Apr 92 22:00:01 GMT
I found this on UseNet, newsgroup "sci.space" today.
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From: PHARABOD@FRCPN11.IN2P3.FR
Newsgroups: sci.space
Subject: U.S. black programs
Message-ID: <Added.IdqRxFC00UkT4MvE9n@andrew.cmu.edu>
Date: 1 Apr 92 23:04:05 GMT
AVIATION WEEK & SPACE TECHNOLOGY, March 9, 1992 - "Black World" Engineers,
Scientists Encourage Using Highly Classified Technology for Civil Applications
- William B. Scott/Los Angeles:
''A small fraction of "black world" engineers and scientists are
encouraged by recent government commitments to open intelligence
agency files, and congressional threats to curtail funding for
some highly classified projects.
Such chilling prospects normally would be viewed with alarm by
all who get paychecks from U.S. intelligence agencies, but a few
technical personnel see opportunity instead of gloom. This minority
hopes issues raised over the last two years are bearing fruit now,
and might push some black technology into the open eventually.
In voicing their view, this small group of scientific professionals
dared to break a code of silence that rivals the Mafia's, and
several individuals claim they have suffered accordingly. Two said
they can prove their civil rights were blatantly abused - always in
the name of security - either to keep them quiet or to prevent their
leaving the loosely structured, yet highly controlled R&D community.
"Once you're in, they don't let you go," an engineer said.
Many dedicated "spooks" undoubtly went into a defensive crouch
when Robert M. Gates, director of the Central Intelligence Agency,
announced last month that some CIA files would be opened. Openness
is anathema to the intelligence professional; it defies all Cold
War rules of business. But the world has changed, and Gates realized
that CIA and its sister agencies must adapt.
Within days of Gate's announcement, several congressmen declared
open season on black programs they believed were unnecessary since
the Soviet Union disbanded (AW&ST Mar. 2, p. 62).
Proponents of "deep black" programs point to the lessons of history,
noting that dictators and tyrants with dreams of world domination
have popped up repeatedly. And when that happens, the U.S. must have
a technological arsenal capable of stomping out the threat, they
argue. The nation's "silver bullets" are best developed in the black,
where neither friend nor foe knows they even exist, let alone how
effective they are.
Opponents of the status-quo, keep-it-all-classified school see a
different "new world order" emerging. These engineers, scientists,
technicians and aircraft mechanics believe that U.S. *economic*
national security is more at risk now than military security. One
way to combat economic threats to each citizen's standard of living
is to release some of the secret technology already developed at
taxpayer expense, they maintain.
One scientist identified several "black world" breakthrough that,
he believes, have both military and commercial potential. The
technologies include:
# Very sensitive infrared sensors that do not require cryogenic
cooling. The researcher claimed that, by reducing IR sensor thermal
noise through "electrostatic heat transfer" techniques, today's best
IR array could operate at sensitivities "several orders of magnitude
better than is possible with cryogenic cooling". Environmental
monitoring satellites - as well as strategic defense sensors on
Brilliant Pebbles and Brilliant Eyes spacecraft - could use this
technology to extend the on-orbit life of infrared sensors
indefinitely. Currently, the operational life of an IR space sensor
is limited by the amount of cryogenic cooling material available.
# Instantly altering the thermal equilibrium of a large optical lens
or mirror through electrostatic "bulk cooling" methods. The result
is analogous to that attained with phase conjugate optics in
telescopes or imaging devices employing an elastic-type mirror. "We
spent a lot of time in the [1980s] developing a micro-processor
interface to a high-voltage power supply ... to control optical
arrays," he said. "The results were absolutely astounding".
# Using sensitized random access memory (RAM) to detect or transmit
low levels of near and far-infrared energy. When incorporated into a
feedback system for temperature stabilization, the RAM could be used
as "an esoteric IR detector that is simple and reliable," he claimed.
# Low-observable ceramics made from powdered, depleted uranium. The
resulting dielectric material has approximately 92% the bulk density
of depleted uranium, but is about 20 times harder. So far, the
ceramic has been demonstrated in a "stealth artillery shell" that
cannot be detected by radar. Although the ceramic is of great interest
to the U.S. Army, "black world" power struggles over ownership of its
manufacturing process is preventing the material's broad application.
# Short-pulse Doppler radar (SPDR) - which may be the black world's
term for ultra-wideband radar (UWB) (AW&ST Dec. 4, 1989, p. 38). One
black-world researcher claimed an over-the-horizon SPDR operating at
50 kw. output power, transmitting a short pulse with a duty cycle of
approximatively 0.003, could detect air vehicles 2,500 naut. mi. away
in all weather conditions. The receiver employed a "Bragg cell
channelizer", he said.
However, the capability of SPDR to also detect stealthy vehicles
has kept the technology in the limbo since the mid-1980s. "Anybody
who brought it up at [a company] got his nose cut off," the scientist
said. Although he was not familiar with the bitter controversy over
UWB since 1989, he said the earlier suppression of SPDR "was absolutely
criminal, because any stealth technology stood out like a sore thumb
when hit with short-pulse Doppler" (AW&ST Oct. 21, 1991, p 22; Nov. 19,
1990, p. 18).
Engineers working on highly classified programs cited other
technologies that appeared to this editor as only military related.
They said that - if the principles were widely understood - though,
there would be definite commercial applications.
One was a "thermal signature masking technology ... which is used on
the B-2 [stealth bomber]," an engineer said. "Basically, it's an
electrostatic heat transfer phenomena that charges the jet engine
exhaust stream to disperse the heat - by a factor of about 800. It
does a remarkable job of altering the thermal signature."
He said the same basic technology, used in wing leading edges, can
reduce a flying vehicle's radar cross section (RCS) by masking thermal
signatures created by aerodynamic perturbations of the air. "The radar
signature of an incoming warhead can be reduced to less than 10%" of
its normal value, the engineer said. "We found that radar cross
section has a lot to do with aerodynamics and turbulence - past
certain speeds."
Electrostatic field-generating techniques in the B-2's wing leading
edges may help reduce its RCS. The bomber's leading edges posed a
particularly challenging production problem on the first aircraft,
and may have been the source of diminished results during early
stealth flight tests.
In 1968, Aviation Week reported that Northrop was evaluating
"electrical forces to condition the air flowing around an aircraft at
supersonic speeds" to reduce drag, heating and sonic boom effects.
The findings were promising enough to justify funding of additional
research (AW&ST Jan. 22, p. 21).
By negatively ionizing air molecules ahead of an aircraft, then
charging the nose to the same polarity, an electrostatic field was
formed. The field tended to repel or alter the molecules' path as the
aircraft approached, according to the article.
If the "black world" actually has developed feasible ways to reduce
airframe drag substantially with controlled electrostatic fields,
commercial aircraft manufacturers and airlines should be campaigning
mightily for the technology. The potential fuel and cost savings for
just American, United and Delta would be staggering.
A scientist said other, more dramatic, classified technologies are
applicable to lasers, aircraft control and propulsion. However, the
scientists and engineers were especially hesitant to discuss these
projects. One said they are "very black. Besides, it would take about
20 hr. to explain the principles, and very few people would understand
them anyway."
Whether or not black technology will be released in the near future
or not will depend more on political power wielded in Washington than
the recommendations of dissident "insider" factions. It appears that
most within the intelligence research and development community are
highly skeptical of even Gates' born-again approach, despite the high
hopes of openness proponents.
Defense Secretary Richard B. Cheney said there was no near-term plan
to declassify technology now trapped in the "black world". He said the
need to maintain a qualitative edge over potential adversaries "always
will take precedence" over economic competitiveness issues (AW&ST Feb.
17, p. 17).
Whether that status-quo posture will stand in face of intense
Japanese and European competition during a presidential election year
is yet to be determined - especially when U.S. and allied contractor
executives are scrambling anxiously for ways to turn defense
technology into commercial profits.''
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From: wam.umd.edu!infinity
Subject: Miami time warp
Date: 3 Apr 92 21:40:42 GMT
From: David E. Coleman <infinity@wam.umd.edu>
Information --> Reference --> Needed.
+From a video on the Bermuda Triangle, I learned of a plane that landed
at Miami with everyone's watches approximately ten minutes slow. The
plane had disappeared from radar screens for ten minutes at point.
My friend tells me such an incident is covered in Time-Life Books'
_Mysteries of the Unknown_, which I do not have. My question is does
anyone know of a reference I can find (and page number?) that covers
this event? Thanks in advance.
More galactic thoughts from:
Amicitia Subjugat Omnia Hweohthte... (Hwe-oath-T)
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David E. Coleman infinity@wam.umd.edu
8125 48th Ave, Apt. 612
College Park, MD 20740 1-(301)-474-7424
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From: wam.umd.edu!infinity
Subject: Puzzle/Question
Date: 3 Apr 92 21:41:02 GMT
From: David E. Coleman <infinity@wam.umd.edu>
Puzzlement/Question:
The below are one dimensional distributions of objects in a theoretical
universe where there is no limit on particle size. Assume each line is of
objects of infinitesimal depths and widths but variable lengths. Assume that
there is a whole range of such lines, not just lines 1,2,3,4,5,6, but also
an infinite number of possible such lines in between, to make a smooth
distribution of possible lines of objects.
1----------------------------------- <-- This line should have no gaps
2----- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- because it is a limiting case
3-- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
4- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
5...................................
6----------------------------------- <-- This line also should have no gaps
since it also is a limiting case
My question: Which line above has the highest entropy, and which has the
lowest? Disorder and entropy are no one in the same, as physicists try to
correct us (i.e the process of evolution on Earth has a decrease in
disorder but an increase in entropy.) So, I also ask, which line above
has the greatest order, and which has the least?
The reason why I ask is I am wondering about the nature of Form,
one (one solid line,) infinity (infinite number of infinitesimal particles
infinitesimally spaced,) chaos, and whether or not I can properly make a
circle as below:
(6)1
5
2
4 3
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College Park, MD 20740 1-(301)-474-7424
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From: ns-mx.uiowa.edu!jrblack
Subject: NASA completes asteroid workshop studies (Forwarded)
Date: 4 Apr 92 04:42:13 GMT
From: James Roger Black <jrblack@ns-mx.uiowa.edu>
In sci.space.news on Usenet News, yee@trident.arc.nasa.gov
(Peter E. Yee) posted the following article:
|> Michael Braukus
|> Headquarters, Washington, D.C. March 31, 1992
|> (Phone: 202/453-1549)
|>
|> RELEASE: 92-43
|>
|> NASA COMPLETES ASTEROID WORKSHOP STUDIES
|>
|>
|> NASA today presented Congress with summaries of
|> workshop studies on detecting Earth-orbit-crossing asteroids
|> and determining how to deal with such threats. The two
|> workshops were in response to a congressional request included
|> in the Fiscal Year 1991 NASA authorization bill.
|>
|> The NASA-sponsored Near-Earth-Object Detection Workshop
|> judged asteroids with diameters 1 km or larger the most
|> dangerous objects in terms of potential for causing catastrophic
|> global effects on Earth. Impacts of such asteroids are extremely
|> rare and can be detected with current ground-based technology,
|> most likely decades in advance of any collision.
|>
|> The workshop's proposed detection plan builds on research
|> programs that NASA has funded for a number of years. The
|> plan calls for a coordinated international network of specialized
|> ground-based telescopes for detecting Earth-approaching
|> asteroids.
|>
|> The Near-Earth-Object Interception Workshop was hosted by
|> the Department of Energy's Los Alamos National Laboratory in
|> January 1992. Participants at this three-day workshop
|> discussed various schemes for preventing an asteroid from
|> colliding with Earth.
|>
|>
|> Editors Note:
|>
|> General summaries of these two reports can be obtained
|> from the NASA Headquarters Newsroom by calling 202/453-
|> 8400. The detailed findings of the Detection Workshop will be
|> available from the NASA Newsroom on April 2, 1992. The
|> detailed findings and technical papers presented at the
|> Interception Workshop will be available from the Los Alamos
|> National Laboratory, 505/667-7000, in the summer of 1992.
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Disclaimer: My employer doesn't even know I have any opinions.
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From: Michael.Corbin@p0.f428.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Michael Corbin)
Subject: Don Ecker and Phil Klass!!
Date: 4 Apr 92 02:47:00 GMT
On April 24, 1992, MICAP (Multi-national Investigations Cooperative on Aerial
Phenomena), in conjunction with ParaNet Information Service, will sponsor an
illustrated forum on contrasting viewpoints within the UFO research community.
This forum will be moderated before a live
audience with questions following the presentation. The guests will be Don
Ecker, Research Director for UFO Magazine and a long-standing contributor of
ParaNet, and Phil Klass, avionics editor (retired) for Aviation Weekly and
Space Technology, and known among the UFO research community as an avid
detractor of the ETH (Extra-Terrestrial Hypothesis). Ecker will demonstrate
that the phenomena has a basis in reality and that it has potential
implications for possible non-prosaic explanations, whereas Klass will
demonstrate a prosaic/earthly explanation for mysterious and seemingly
inexplicable UFO incidents.
The "square-off" will begin at 7:00 P.M., at the Denver North Holiday Inn
Holidome at I-25 and 120th Avenue. The title of the presentation is UFOs?
Modern Myth, Manifest Technology, or ...?
This will be an interesting exchange of ideas and information and is expected
to attract skeptics, believers and the intellectually curious. For ticket
inforamtion, please contact MICAP at (303)431-8796. Hotel accomodations are
available at reasonable rates.
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From: Linda.Bird@f100.n1010.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Linda Bird)
Subject: Re: 92 Ufo Con-colospgs
Date: 4 Apr 92 03:43:00 GMT
Hi Mike,
Any chance of your attending the July MUFON in New Mexico? I'd love to
meet you and Peggy and the other Denverites. Denverians. Denvertons.
:-)
Linda
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