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                Info-ParaNet Newsletters   Volume I  Number 535 

Tuesday, February 18th 1992

(C) Copyright 1992 Paranet Information Service. All Rights Reserved.

Today's Topics:

Missive...
Re: Deja Vu all over again!
Spy Satellites and UFOs
Ubatuba
black aircraft
Re: Paranet Newsletter 534
Re: Missive...
Re: OZONE AND MEIER
help
Truly
Deja Vu all over again!
Re: Spysats, black triangles, Medjugorje
Meier and the Ozone Layer
Crop Circles
Re: Amazon Question
Re: Mayra And Utah
The Lazar Tape
Re: RE:FEDER & WILLIAMS
Re: PUB'G INFO: FEDER,
Re: SPY SATELLITES AND
Re: Missive...

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From: Don.Allen@f29.n363.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Don Allen)
Subject: Missive...
Date: 10 Feb 92 19:56:01 GMT


* Replying to a message originally to All

nn> From: lush@ecn.purdue.edu (Gregory B Lush)
nn>
nn>
nn> Don Allen,
nn>
nn> Did you get the letter I sent you by USMail?
nn>
nn> Greg (lush@ecn.purdue.edu)
nn>

Yes I did, Greg and thanks for sending it..I called that BBS number
you left and have managed to get some files. I just posted the entire
book of "Cry of The Phoenix" to alt.alien.visitors. I've also talked
to Rick, the Sysop of the Phoenix Liberator BBS and he's sending me
some stuff via snail mail.

I had been meaning to send you some email via uucp but your message
just popped up here today in the echo.

Best Regards,

Don

dona@bilver.uucp

--
Don Allen - via ParaNet node 1:104/422
UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name
INTERNET: Don.Allen@f29.n363.z1.FIDONET.ORG



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From: Steve.Rose@p0.f134.n109.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Steve Rose)
Subject: Re: Deja Vu all over again!
Date: 10 Feb 92 21:55:00 GMT


n> Now we have massive mother ships just waiting for President Bush to
n> give the word so that the New World Order can be established by the
n> tri-lateral Commission, the World Bank, and a set of right-wing
n> elitists. But, we al- so have Star Wars being put into place so that
n> we can fight this menace from Zeta Reticulli. C'mon, get a life!

Quite sad, isn't it? Yet amoung the muck and mire of the conspiritoids,
one must stand firm that there IS valid data and research work going
on...despite the interjections of some pseudo-sensationalizers. :)

Thank goodness ParaNet has been able to weather the usual
merry-go-round tabloid reposts better than most. I have seen other
network conferences sink into that 'new-age' slush puppy state, where
nothing credible could be further discussed or explored rationally.
--
Steve Rose - via ParaNet node 1:104/422
UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name
INTERNET: Steve.Rose@p0.f134.n109.z1.FIDONET.ORG



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From: shemtaia.weeg.uiowa.edu!jrblack
Subject: Spy Satellites and UFOs
Date: 11 Feb 92 18:33:23 GMT

From: James Roger Black <jrblack@shemtaia.weeg.uiowa.edu>

Pete Porro (Pete.Porro@f414.n154.z1.PARANET.ORG) writes:

+ With all the peeking and probing done
+ from outer space (by earthly creatures) wouldn't one expect to have some
+ photos or data on UFO's comming out of those programs? Not a word, right? We
+ get radar reports, strange sightings from airlines, and all sorts of ground
+ sightings. How come the spy sats. don't see anything? If they are supposed to
+ be able to distinguish something smaller than a six inch square, how come
+ these football field size UFO's are not getting seen. Or are they?

I don't have all the references in front of me, but here's what I've
gleaned from my readings over the years.

Spy satellites are managed out of the National Reconnaissance Office,
which is one of the most super-secret agencies of the U.S. government.
Officially they don't even exist; they publish nothing, they talk to no
one; and if there are things which show up on their pictures that don't
belong there, they certainly aren't going to tell the public about it.

Weather satellites generally are way too high to see anything smaller
than a major city. Even if they did show something unexpected, chances
are that nobody would notice it anyway--after all, they're trained to
look for large-scale weather patterns, not alien spacecraft.

NORAD radar apparently does pick up very large numbers of what they
call 'uncorrelated targets'; according to their FOIA responses over the
years, there have been literally millions of these. Since their
apparent trajectories and speeds do not line up with those of the
intended targets--i.e., incoming ballistic missiles--the computers are
programmed to ignore them.

Ground-based astronomical observations do in fact record lots of
strange tracks and lights. Most are dismissed as meteors, aircraft, or
birds. The rest are ignored by scientists who are afraid of being
tagged as a 'UFO nut'. Jacques Vallee, one of the all-time greats in
Ufology, got his start as a UFO investigator when he observed fellow
astronomers destroying records of inexplicable sightings that had shown
up during routine observations.

Overall, I think it's a grave mistake to assume that there's nothing
going on just because we haven't heard about it.

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Roger Black jrblack@shemtaia.weeg.uiowa.edu
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From: Jim.Speiser@f37.n114.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Jim Speiser)
Subject: Ubatuba
Date: 11 Feb 92 03:34:00 GMT

No, it's not a new rap group. Its the alleged site of an alleged UFO crash,
and I need some info on it. Specifically, I've been told that a sample of the
Ubatuba Magnesium Shard is in the possession of a Princeton professor, and I
need his name. Or if I'm wrong, then just where is the shard? If anyone knows,
your help will be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Jim

--
Jim Speiser - via ParaNet node 1:104/422
UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name
INTERNET: Jim.Speiser@f37.n114.z1.FIDONET.ORG



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From: bcstec.ca.boeing.com!kuryakin
Subject: black aircraft
Date: 12 Feb 92 18:34:04 GMT

From: kuryakin@bcstec.ca.boeing.com (Rick Pavek)


I'll second Larry's posting regarding the black aircraft.

Keep in mind that the SR-71 is '50s technology, and that the F-117 is
early '70s technology.

If things like the MJ-12 document describe are factual, then any current
black aircraft program is likely to lead an investigator straight to
UFO's.

Yet, investigators typically pooh-pooh looking for them...

Why is that? Is it because they are afraid the government would have
a good case to shut them down? Why would it be any different from
exploring UFO data?

Or is it because terrestrial based ufo's wouldn't be sexy enough?


Personally, I think the two types of vehicles, terrestrial and extra,
are tied together with baling wire.

Enquiring minds want to know...

Rick


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From: grossg@dg-rtp.dg.com (Gross)
Subject: Re: Paranet Newsletter 534
Date: 12 Feb 92 20:39:34 GMT

From: grossg@dg-rtp.dg.com (Gross)

Jim Greene writes:

# Mike; I sure would like to tell you some information that was told
# to me but John Powell told me if I can't prove it then its not worth
# telling.
# If you want to know who is behind the black helicopters and some
# information on the surpose secret manned mars flight in the early
# 50's, then I would have to post it as fiction to satify John.
# Its getting very difficult to do any research anymore. I am
# getting to the point, like many others and will file this
# information away and keep it to myself.

So post it as fiction and let us decide for ourselves if there is any
merit within.

Personally, I'm dubious of manned flights to Mars (even one) in the
early 50s. This is not because I don't wish we had done so, but
merely because our technology at that time was not capable of
supporting such a mission, as far as I know. Shoot, our metalurgy
couldn't even support the building of a supersonic bomber at the time,
let alone a spacecraft capable of supporting a manned mission to
another planet in our solar system.

However, if you have something that could show otherwise, even if it
isn't well documented, please let us know. Often just a scrap of
information is better than none at all. There are some very dogged
investigators out there who have worked with far less.

Gene Gross



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From: Linda.Bird@f8.n1012.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Linda Bird)
Subject: Re: Missive...
Date: 13 Feb 92 05:10:20 GMT

Hi Don,

How does one gain access to "Alt.alien.visitors?" I have seen you as well as
others refer to it. What is IT anyway? Another BBS? Echo?

Thanks,

Linda


--
Linda Bird - via ParaNet node 1:104/422
UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name
INTERNET: Linda.Bird@f8.n1012.z9.FIDONET.ORG



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From: Andre.Eichner@f10.n245.z2.FIDONET.ORG (Andre Eichner)
Subject: Re: OZONE AND MEIER
Date: 9 Feb 92 21:09:00 GMT

Hallo Clark!

In a msg of <04 Feb 92>, Clark Matthews writes to Pete Porro:

Billi Meier and co....

I've read B.Meiers book with some photos from semjase's spaceship. The most of
the photos are very bad! You can see the lighting with studio-spots in the
metallic spaceship. I think: some can be true, but the most of his photos are
only to make money!

cheers
Andre

--
Andre Eichner - via ParaNet node 1:104/422
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INTERNET: Andre.Eichner@f10.n245.z2.FIDONET.ORG



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From: Ian.Harper@f54.n440.z2.FIDONET.ORG (Ian Harper)
Subject: help
Date: 8 Feb 92 17:49:01 GMT

Howdy Dieter!

Can give me your phone number, as i have got some question to ask off line?
Thank you very much.


Cheers!............IAN HARPER

--
Ian Harper - via ParaNet node 1:104/422
UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name
INTERNET: Ian.Harper@f54.n440.z2.FIDONET.ORG



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From: bcstec.ca.boeing.com!kuryakin
Subject: Truly
Date: 13 Feb 92 18:25:43 GMT

From: kuryakin@bcstec.ca.boeing.com (Rick Pavek)

Having heard the Richard Truly firing on the news yesterday and today,
I'm wondering if anyone has heard stirrings regarding the 'real' reasons
he got canned.

The news reports alluded to his incompatibility with the president's
directions...

I've also heard another rumor... and I'd like to see what other's may
have come up with... I will post results.

Thanks, Rick Pavek




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From: John.Hicks@f29.n363.z1.FIDONET.ORG (John Hicks)
Subject: Deja Vu all over again!
Date: 13 Feb 92 18:16:01 GMT


> I have seen other network conferences sink into that 'new-age' slush
> puppy state, where nothing credible could be further discussed or explored
> rationally.

That's a problem I always have in Fido UFO. Once I get rid of some of the
space brothers, others crop up; there's so much noise, it's difficult for
anyone to carry on a rational conversation.
Come help us stay somewhere close to the straight and narrow course of
rational thinking.

jbh

--
John Hicks - via ParaNet node 1:104/422
UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name
INTERNET: John.Hicks@f29.n363.z1.FIDONET.ORG



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From: wam.umd.edu!infinity
Subject: Re: Spysats, black triangles, Medjugorje
Date: 14 Feb 92 16:32:50 GMT

From: Triopedus Psyplovortisle <infinity@wam.umd.edu>


As for spy satellites not seeing black triangles, I would remind you (Pete)
that the greater the resolution, the smaller the area covered. To see
a hat on someone's head, even with computer enhancement, and even,
someday, application of recent advances in astronomical image deconvolution
(I have done some of this,) the picture probably would not cover much more
than a square mile. Try observing the entire Earth on a detail like this,
and you will take a century to map, and you really have to map all areas
simultaneously.

Now, why do I mention Mejugorge? No reason, except I didn't want to
write two postings.

MEDJUGORJE- A recent historical account of this phenomenon, completely
objective, appears in Anthropological Quarterly, April, 1990 63:2. I don't
have the page numbers on me right now. It is mostly background information,
but it has great depth, for those who may be interested.

Note to Doug Rogers: Relevance of MEDJUGORJE to UFOs and Paranormal is only
in its implications on considerations of the role of hysteria, hallucination,
power of belief, etc in UFO and other paranormal phenomena.
By the way, Paranet is PARAnet, not UFOnet. There does not have to
be a direct tie in to supposedly folklore-independent scientific UFO
research.
More galactic thoughts from:
Amicitia Subjugat Omnia Hweohthte... (Hwe-oath-T)
---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ----
David E. Coleman infinity@wam.umd.edu
8125 48th Ave, Apt. 612
College Park, MD 20740 1-(301)-474-7424
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From: well.sf.ca.us!ddrasin
Subject: Meier and the Ozone Layer
Date: 15 Feb 92 08:38:46 GMT

From: Dan Drasin <ddrasin@well.sf.ca.us>

Regarding the ozone layer and the Billy Meier case:
----------------------------------------------------

The initial contact in question took place on March 2, 1975, according
to Meier's notes. The somewhat rough and awkward translation from the
original German contact notes reads as follows:


Semjase: 'For many tens of years we have been studying all spheres of
your world. The ceaseless change goes on, and too there are dangerous
developments. For many years a dangerous change has been taking place
in your stratosphere that has a deadly portent for all earthly life.
An increasing decay in the ozone belt of the stratosphere is being
caused by the continuous production of ozone-destroying substances
that rise as gas into the stratosphere and damage the ozone belt.
Especially destructive is the brom* gas that rises into the ionosphere
and slowly disintegrates it. Up to now the average loss is 6.38
percent. That is a percentage loss that for all life forms is damaging
and beginning to cause mutations. This percentage was reached in a
time of 60 years only. Especially there are the brom gas substances
that slowly destroy the ozone belt as I have mentioned. Because of
that more and more ultraviolet rays from the sun come into the
atmosphere. They will affect all life forms. In over 20 different
areas the ozone belt is already dangerous. In 3 different areas there
is a danger that it will break up completely in a few tens of years if
the production and release of the destructive factors is not arrested.
If this is not done by some means, holes will be opened in the
protective shield and the unshielded ultraviolet rays will break into
your atmosphere and produce slow, tortuous death for all life.
Everything entering the unshielded area from the hole (in the
ionosphere) will be destroyed.

'Release of the destructive chemical substances comes mainly from
explosion motors [internal-combustion engines] and from material-
destroying processes of all kinds, like atom-splitting and other
processes like that. They have been produced in great mass since i945
throughout the whole world and every kind of life is being given a
changing kick. Destructive chemical gases are also being released from
things of daily life because each aerosol spray can releases brom gas
and other chemicals. They rise into the stratosphere and slowly but
systematically destroy it.

'Researchers and scientists in several countries are discovering this
destructive loss of the ozone belt caused by chemicals, especially the
brom gases, but now in their own unaccountable delusion for power are
turning (this knowledge) to war technical use. Just recently they are
preparing to build rocket bodies to carry these destructive brom
substances high into the stratosphere to be exploded (there),
following which very gigantic holes will be rent in the ozone belt
letting unfiltered ultraviolet rays into the atmosphere. Such a hole
can close up again only very slowly and this process will take many
hundreds of years after these activities are discontinued. Also to be
considered is the fact that ozone belt wanders as it circulates. A
hole in the protective ozone layer will not only affect a particular
area but its wandering will affect a very wide area. Your scientists
are aware of this situation, but the population at large is not.

'The duty of your group is to bring this to the attention of
governments and scientists and make them aware of the dangers and the
need for control. It is in the interest of all humanity and all life
on earth that there be agreements between all countries to stop this
deadly insanity. In this respect I refer you to Mr. Michael McElroy of
Harvard University in the United States who is among the foremost
researchers on the subject.'


Meier made a copy of this communication and mailed it to McElroy at
Harvard as instructed. He never received a reply, but the letter also
never came back.



* Re: 'brom' -- bromine is one of the four halogen gases -- the other
three being chlorine, fluorine and iodine. Whether 'brom' means
bromine specifically or whether the word refers to the halogens in
general I don't know. It is known now that bromine gas is in fact one
of the more ozone-destroying byproducts of industrial and other
activity.


Dan Drasin
ddrasin@well.sf.ca.us%Apple.Com




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From: Michael.Corbin@p0.f428.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Michael Corbin)
Subject: Crop Circles
Date: 16 Feb 92 00:53:00 GMT


* Forwarded from "Fido UFO Echo"
* Originally from Chris Rutkowski
* Originally dated 02-13-92 12:44

Sheldon:
I just received a wad of letters and zines from England. Very
interesting. It seems that things are falling apart quite rapidly. Some
researchers appear to have suggested that Wingfield made up all the
scandalous background on Bower and Chorley, including the MBF story. Further,
B/C have been getting harrassed by cerealogists and even threatened because
of their claims. CCCS has published a statistical analysis of Chorost's paper
about radioactivity at crop circle sites. Not good news for Mike. All of
the sites he sampled were proven or suspected hoaxes except one. His
statistics themselves were awry, and his sampling techniques were poor, to
say the least. Very, very damaging. It seems that CERES, CCCS, BUFORA and
various other groups are really going at it with tooth and nails. Cerealogy
and ufology in general is going to be suffering because of all this.

I have a theory that I think is supported
by the crop circle and UFO data thus far. I'm going to publish it in a major
zine, so I don't want to spill the beans just yet until I work out the
details, but my idea is basically that: - crop circles are not a new
phenomenon - if we eliminate hoaxes, there are the same number of crop
circles reported each year - real crop circles are nothing more than what
have been described as saucer nests - the numbers and complexity of crop
circles is a reaction by hoaxers to publicity - crop circles are not unique
to England - the crop circle phenomenon did not start in England in 1980

This position seems quite reasonable. It
would appear that the circle phenomenon in England has been contaminated by
hoaxers, and it is necessary to look at UGMs in history and everywhere else
in the world in order to get a grasp of the phenomenon.

Now, =that= should get the BBS's humming.
Get those flames ready! ................................... - Chris ---

--
Michael Corbin - via ParaNet node 1:104/422
UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name
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From: Peggy.Noonan@p0.f605.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Peggy Noonan)
Subject: Re: Amazon Question
Date: 16 Feb 92 17:46:05 GMT

>I won't mention TJ again, just had to jump in with the news
>bit.
>
>Now what about this Amazon thing? I'm lost at sea. I saw John's
>message about it being available from CIS, maybe I can do some
>night work and collect it, if I have more key words to search
>for, or topics.
>
Pete,
Did you get my reply on this?
I was having a lot of trouble with the computer and since
this message's time my hard disk crashed, so I don't know if the
stuff I tried to send prior to that did get through (do know there
has not been any reply for a while so may've been a problem here.)
If you didn't get it, let me know and I'll repost it.
Thanks again for the super packet of goodies to read!
==Peggy==
--
Peggy Noonan - via ParaNet node 1:104/422
UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name
INTERNET: Peggy.Noonan@p0.f605.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG



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From: Peggy.Noonan@p0.f605.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Peggy Noonan)
Subject: Re: Mayra And Utah
Date: 16 Feb 92 18:16:07 GMT

>California, Mount Shasta: subcontinent of Lemuria again.
>Yuk: Yucatan, possibly connected by land bridge to Atlantis.
>Ophir: just another name or time of history for the region of
>Persia.
> Solomon may have thought it still existed as Ophir, or
>maybe
> he was misled Ophir and Persia were two different
>places.

Did you know about Gene Savoy's discovery which links Peru with
Ophir? About two years ago Savoy found some large stone tablets or
stele in a cave near the Chachapoyas village in Peru (a race of
white people amid the Indian natives, though they're now
intermingled to "tea colored" he says) and Savoy says the stele bear
the inscription linking them to Solomon and Ophir. He speculates
that Peru was actually the location of the land of Ophir where
Solomon got so much of his gold. Savoy is an "explorer" and not an
archaeologist, but he has had an ancient languages expert examine
the writings and says his original contention is correct. If you
would like to contact Savoy, you can reach him through the
Explorer's Club in Reno, Nevada. Let me know if you need an address
or want more info on Ophir... I know it was just a sidelight in your
message but thought you might be interested in the addendum.
--
Peggy Noonan - via ParaNet node 1:104/422
UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name
INTERNET: Peggy.Noonan@p0.f605.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG



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From: Peggy.Noonan@p0.f605.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Peggy Noonan)
Subject: The Lazar Tape
Date: 16 Feb 92 18:20:08 GMT

* In a message originally to All, hpvclmd.vcd.hp.com!miked said:
>From: Mike Dobbs <miked@hpvclmd.vcd.hp.com>

>The latest UFO Magazine carried an advertisement for 'The Lazar
>Tape... and
>excerpts from the Government Bible'. Has anyone viewed this
>video? Don?
>A brief review would be appreciated.

Hello Mike,
I saw the tape too, a pre-release copy. I don't want to
step on Don's review in UFO Magazine (not sure when that will come
out) but I'm going to be very eager to see what he says [Don, will
you be posting that review or part of it here?] about the tape.
I found it very interesting. It had a lot of detail and
explanation of the propulsion used by UFOs, with a sort of cram
course for physics for those of us who're not experts in that area.
Whether it's credible or not, I couldn't say. It's persuasive,
certainly.
Have you found the tape yet? What's the asking price on it?
I've loaned my copy to a radio host who is going to try to
get Lazar on his show to discuss this story in more detail. If he
does arrange this, I'll post a message here so everyone can listen
to the show.
==Peggy==
--
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From: Pete.Porro@f414.n154.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Pete Porro)
Subject: Re: RE:FEDER & WILLIAMS
Date: 30 Jan 92 19:38:49 GMT

I have to agree with you that keeping an open mind is important. No matter
what I say that may seem to be the "S" word, I won't throw out new ideas
until they have been examined. As I also am willing to change from old to new
when there is enough evidence to demand it.

You can't teach and old dog new tricks because it's too stuborn to learn
them. Not because they can't learn them. I'll try to stay a pup for another
44 years.
--
Pete Porro - via ParaNet node 1:104/422
UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name
INTERNET: Pete.Porro@f414.n154.z1.FIDONET.ORG



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From: Pete.Porro@f414.n154.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Pete Porro)
Subject: Re: PUB'G INFO: FEDER,
Date: 5 Feb 92 19:19:47 GMT

Here's another one for you. Although the titles don't seem to apply, the
theory and practice do fit with psychics and paranormal endevors. "Cult
Archaeology and Creationism"
a collection of authors. Feder and Williams are
two who contributed. Alice Kehoe (from Milwaukee hey), Laurie Godfrey, Thomas
Gray, Francis Harrold, Luanne Hudson, William Stiebing Jr., and others. Most
of them are anthropologists.

They discuss pseudoscientific (spurious claims), and cult following of of
rejected ideas which almost become religious following. I think this is very
well related to UFO's, paranormal, Crop Circles and the like.
--
Pete Porro - via ParaNet node 1:104/422
UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name
INTERNET: Pete.Porro@f414.n154.z1.FIDONET.ORG



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From: Pete.Porro@f414.n154.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Pete Porro)
Subject: Re: SPY SATELLITES AND
Date: 13 Feb 92 20:07:54 GMT

Oh I have to agree with you, that's why I brought up the thought that there
is a way to find more information from the skys. We just are not getting any
of it. I would never assume that something does not exist just because I
don't know it does. Thanks for the interesting reply.
--
Pete Porro - via ParaNet node 1:104/422
UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name
INTERNET: Pete.Porro@f414.n154.z1.FIDONET.ORG



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From: Don.Allen@f29.n363.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Don Allen)
Subject: Re: Missive...
Date: 15 Feb 92 19:51:00 GMT


LB> Hi Don,
LB>
LB> How does one gain access to "Alt.alien.visitors?" I have
LB> seen you as well as others refer to it. What is IT anyway?
LB> Another BBS? Echo?

It's a *newsgroup* on Usenet. Usenet is "news" that is carried
on the Internet network. A "Newsgroup" is just a "message area".

There are well over 1000 newsgroups on Usenet. You can access
Usenet through public accessible Unix dialups, or certain BBS's
that carry a pass-through of some of the newsgroups.

If you will leave me your area code and your phone number here, I
can grep through the comp.mail.maps newsgroup and see if I can locate
a system nearest you.

Don

--
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INTERNET: Don.Allen@f29.n363.z1.FIDONET.ORG


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UUCP {ncar,isis,csn}!scicom!infopara-request
DOMAIN infopara-request@scicom.alphacdc.com
To obtain back issues by anonymous ftp, connect to:

DOMAIN ftp.uiowa.edu (directory /archives/paranet)

Mail to private Paranet/Fidonet addresses from the newsletters:
DOMAIN firstname.lastname@paranet.org
UUCP scicom!paranet.org!firstname.lastname

******************The**End**of**Info-ParaNet**Newsletter************************


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