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Info-ParaNet Newsletters Volume 1 Number 543
Info-ParaNet Newsletters Volume I Number 543
Tuesday, March 31st 1992
(C) Copyright 1992 Paranet Information Service. All Rights Reserved.
Today's Topics:
Re: Mel Noel/kirkwood
Re: Sitchin in UFO mag
Ogden Mystery
Re: Sighting Reports
Msg
Re: 92 UFO Con-ColoSpgs
Cable Radio Network
Cable Radio Show
Re: Sighting Reports
AZTALAN/CAHOKIA/PREHISTORIC
Re: PETROGLYPHS
WELCOME
Welcome
Sighting Reports
Implants
Sightings
Gravity resonance coils revisited...
Mycroft
Re: 92 Ufo Con-colospgs
Ogden Mystery
Cosmic ThAng and Cure-aliens
Re: Line-up: Weird Nite
Aztalan/cahokia/prehistoric
The B-2 Ufo
Cosmic Thang And Cure-aliens
Mycroft
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From: Linda.Bird@f100.n1010.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Linda Bird)
Subject: Re: Mel Noel/kirkwood
Date: 21 Mar 92 17:43:00 GMT
Hi Peggy,
It looks as if the mystery surrounding the Ogden Object(s) just won't
go away! Keep hanging in there.
Linda
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From: Linda.Bird@f100.n1010.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Linda Bird)
Subject: Re: Sitchin in UFO mag
Date: 21 Mar 92 17:46:00 GMT
Hi Peggy,
Yes, I did read the 2 articles again. Let me look at them again, and
refresh my memory (duh) and see if I have any comments!
Best,
Linda
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From: Peggy.Noonan@p0.f150.n30163.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Peggy Noonan)
Subject: Ogden Mystery
Date: 22 Mar 92 18:23:00 GMT
>
>It looks as if the mystery surrounding the Ogden Object(s) just
>won't go away! Keep hanging in there.
How true...Frustrating, though! I just checked with the source
again Friday to see when he'd be sending the promised photos and
written stuff...seems there's been a hang-up on his end, something
about a will, and unavoidable delays... Argh!
That's par for this story's course, though!
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From: Tom.Davis@f201.n350.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Tom Davis)
Subject: Re: Sighting Reports
Date: 21 Mar 92 21:37:00 GMT
Mike, does your organization have a representative in the State of
Washington?
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From: afglsc.span.nasa.gov!WEBB
Subject: Msg
Date: 23 Mar 92 16:21:19 GMT
From: WEBB@afglsc.span.nasa.gov
To: Keith Basterfield,
Keith, have you gotten the msgs. I have sent you recently? Is Paranet
Research still alive? I've gotten nothing on that net for weeks. My msg.
was on HumCat and your Australian CEIII cases. Please acknowledge this
msg.; I will resend if necessary.
Dave
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From: Linda.Bird@f100.n1010.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Linda Bird)
Subject: Re: 92 UFO Con-ColoSpgs
Date: 23 Mar 92 06:10:00 GMT
Hi Peggy,
Yep, that's the conference I saw in the flyer I received. Yikes, I
didn't realize it was so expensive. :-( And, that;s the same week
we start back to school in my district. (Unless the new school I'm
going to isn't finished yet, hehehe!)
TTYL,
Linda
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From: Anson.Kennedy@p0.f25.n1012.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Anson Kennedy)
Subject: Cable Radio Network
Date: 24 Mar 92 00:38:00 GMT
> What did you make of "CosmicThAng" and his story about
> the aliens helping cure his cancer + multiple
> abductions? I haven't followed that thread and just
> came in on it yesterday. Strange stuff.
Sorry for taking so long to reply. As far as CosmicThAng is concerned, I don't
know what to make of it. My gut feel is that he has gone through some very
tough times and has used the aliens to provide some reassurance that his cancer
really is "cured." If that makes him feel better, who am I to criticize? In
any case, it certainly is "strange stuff."
However, given the current feelings in the Compuserve Paranormal Issues section
towards questioning attitudes, I think I'll keep my opinions to myself. Good
or bad.
--- Anson
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From: Don.Ecker@p0.f150.n30163.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Don Ecker)
Subject: Cable Radio Show
Date: 26 Mar 92 21:21:00 GMT
A quick announcement to all. Sunday March 29th, I will be
broadcasting a live CRN "UFOs Tonite" from Greystone Castle in
Denver, North. Check with your cable systems to see if they carry
CRN and if not why not! :-)
If you have Satellite, tune into SATCOM 1-R, Transponder 15 at 7.235
Freq.
See ya there.
Best;
Don
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From: Michael.Corbin@p0.f428.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Michael Corbin)
Subject: Re: Sighting Reports
Date: 27 Mar 92 07:00:00 GMT
> Mike, does your organization have a representative in the State of
> Washington?
Not at the moment, but it will shortly.
Stay tuned...
Mike
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From: Pete.Porro@f414.n154.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Pete Porro)
Subject: AZTALAN/CAHOKIA/PREHISTORIC
Date: 23 Mar 92 17:42:02 GMT
Not too much new on Cahokia, although if you ever go there, you'll find many
research papers and books. Not very much for the general public. If you are
interested in reading the flora and fauna of dirt samples for 700 pages,
you'll be quite pleased. I am always keeping and eye open for related
information.
Aztalan allignments are not "new" new. Civil News Jan 1988 (I only have my
note cards on these, not the articles) WI Academy Review, March 1987. I have
to get to the University of WI in Madison which has 50 maps of WI sites just
added to their library. It's about 90 miles from here, and I need to have a
whole day off, and a car that will make the trip.
The idea is that the Latitude + 23.5 will point towards the winter solstic
sunrise. In the case of Aztalan it's 23.5 degress south of East. (I need to
review the equation) From the tallest mound, where a pole once stood, on Dec
21st, the sun rises over a single small mound on a hill 2 miles away in the
East. At Cahokia there is a wooden pole circle with alignments also.
On another note, the Golden Ratio = Phi 1.62 which the 51.5 degree angle
relates to, naturally occurs in conch shells, humans, and Venus when compared
to Earth. Another point for me to investigate whenever I get some time. Right
now I'm busy self distructing via alcohol abuse, but that's related to
personal things which you already have an idea about.
Meanwhile about the Sat. dish vs breakfast. Don't be so selfish! If you give
up breakfast for 5.5 years you could afford the dish... 8*)
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From: Pete.Porro@f414.n154.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Pete Porro)
Subject: Re: PETROGLYPHS
Date: 25 Mar 92 17:46:14 GMT
This is one area I have been interested in for some time. Thanks for the
reference, I know where to look for this book now.
As for lost civilizations, there are so many it's amazing. Prehistoric
people fortunatly left some rock carvings so we would know they existed. It
appears that there is actually some similarity between groups, which allows
for interpretation.
Ancient astronauts? I have not seen anything yet that supports this theory.
Rock drawings and cave paintings lend themselves to interprtation according
to our modern knowledge and technology. When one finds something that looks
like something modern, does that imply it was indeed that object? Or is it
our ability to see similarity? It would not sell books if I proposed that the
Incas had perfected the steam engine, but if I claim the people were too
uncivil to have built pyramids and roads, then connect it to ancient
astronauts because of a few drawings that are subject to severe
interprtation, I might sell millions of books. Integrity prevents most of us
from creative selling of contrived wisdom.
In most cases scientific debate takes place in obscurity, in scientific
journals. The public is usually made aware after some final consensus has
been arrived at. When there are political overtones, it makes the news and
the debate is played out in the spotlight. If substantial evidence is
presented to show something is true, it's will gain acceptance. If something
is based on conjecture and shows little supporting evidence, it will be
discounted. Just wanting something to be true, doesn't make it true. While in
the case of public intervention in the process, emotional or political issues
can and do alter the reality, to fit self centered belief systems.
We need to look at issues from an unnatached perspective at times to see
what was right before our eyes to start with. I attempt to keep an open mind
so that dogmatic opinions will not block my ability to accept new
information. It means I have to accept change when I am incorrect instead of
defending things that have been shown to be falacy. When evidence is
presented it needs to be assimilated, evaluated, and added to the knowledge
base. After that, opinions and decisions can be made. Not before.
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From: Pete.Porro@f414.n154.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Pete Porro)
Subject: WELCOME
Date: 25 Mar 92 18:03:00 GMT
Your idea for a group to define and outline sounds like a leap in the right
direction. I wish you the most success possible.
Mycroft? Wasn't that Sherlocks brother? Or was that Solar Pons brother? Good
choice either way, the tecnique and the name fit the methods.
I'm looking forward to your initial classifications.
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From: Doug.Morrow@p0.f150.n30163.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Doug Morrow)
Subject: Welcome
Date: 27 Mar 92 22:56:00 GMT
Pete,
Yes, Mycroft was Sherlocks older (and smarter) brother. He is known
for his ability to think through and solve a case from his drawing
room chair, without needing to visit the scene of the crime, or even
do much of any investigation. His method was to analyze not just
the information about the crime (or, in our case, the phenomena),
but the scenario surrounding it... If Johnny Doe did the dastardly
deed, then why was he seen with his shirt sleeves rolled up, hmmm?
I hope to try something very much like that with this group. If UFO
thinkers and researchers can stop arguing, if only for a moment,
about whether some specific aspect of the phenomena is true or not,
and begin to focus on some possible "big pictures", then perhaps we
can begin to make some real sense of what is going on. For
instance, if the greys, as described in Jacobs new book, are able to
project certain, seemingly real images into an abductees mind for a
few minutes to test them, is it not concievable that they are able
to project the entire abductionexperience into their mind? And if
this is possible, then would it explain why there seems to be a
increasing frequency of subjects being "beamed up" to the mother
ship? i.e. the abductee is having the experience in their mind, not
in any "real" physical sense.
What we need to do is to ignore the specifics of the phenomena for
now, and to begin to focus on the PATTERNS in the phenomena.
One of the first things I want to do with MYCROFT is to begin
looking at some of the major topics of concern in the field, and to
analyze them for logical internal consistency, and to see if we can
theorize about what is behind it all.
I'll be back tomorrow with some specific thoughts on how we will do
this.
Thanks,
Doug
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From: Vladimir.Godic@f6.n1040.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Vladimir Godic)
Subject: Sighting Reports
Date: 26 Mar 92 04:46:00 GMT
> Thanks, Mike! It's nice to see some information about actual
> sightings rather than all the other crap that finds its way onto
> these boards. In the event that another "flap" might begin
> anywhere, ParaNet can be a catalyst to having people armed with
> video cameras "at the ready" in such areas, just in case ...
Hear, hear John. I thoroughly agree with you.
Vlad
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From: Keith.Basterfield@f12.n1040.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Keith Basterfield)
Subject: Implants
Date: 25 Mar 92 00:03:00 GMT
Hi Linda, I am airmailing a copy of the implants article to you. Hope
you enjoy it. As our MUFON Journals come surface 3-4 months after you
read them, I'd appreciate a copy of an article in the latest issues
dealing with abduction research, thanks.
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From: Keith.Basterfield@f12.n1040.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Keith Basterfield)
Subject: Sightings
Date: 25 Mar 92 00:04:00 GMT
Mike it is a delight to see some "real time" sighting details for
comparison purposes. Keep up the good work.
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From: INDSVAX1.INDSTATE.EDU!ETBENT
Subject: Gravity resonance coils revisited...
Date: 29 Mar 92 02:30:36 GMT
From: Brian Bentz <ETBENT@INDSVAX1.INDSTATE.EDU>
Hello everybody,
I have a quick question for you all... has anyone done any follow-up on
the gravity resonance coils brought up last year on paranet(originally posted
on March 7, 1991 by Clark Matthews)? I happened to pull the diagram, printed
it out and showed it to an undergrad physics major. He is planning on trying
this as a research project this summer, but some parts of it didn't make sense
to him. Being in the Computer Tech Dept. here, I'm not sure what to tell him.
Has anyone played around with this concept, tried building one, etc. or was it
totally blown off as science fiction? Thanks everybody...
Brian Bentz
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From: Sheldon.Wernikoff@p0.f605.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Sheldon Wernikoff)
Subject: Mycroft
Date: 29 Mar 92 03:34:02 GMT
In a message to Vladimir Godic <22-March-92 20:02>
Doug Morrow wrote:
DM> I have come to one inescapable conclusion... the phenomena is
DM> presenting itself to us as if we were an audience.
Or.. as the Bard of Stratford-on-Avon once said... "all the
world's a stage". Perhaps Shakespeare's insights were keener than
even he realized.
DM> Much of what is happening in the field today is generated, I
DM> believe, because the phenomena is intentionally confusing,
DM> contradictory and ridiculous, much as if it wants our
DM> attention, but not too much, too often or too intensely.
Unfortunately, a great deal is also propagated from within our own
community, rendering the gleaning process most difficult. If a
farmer had the same wheat/chaff ratio observed in ufology, he'd
have long since sold the farm.
DM> But I do know that everytime we try and stop and think about
DM> what it all means, what it all could mean, some new and even
DM> more interesting and exciting sigthing is made or abduction
DM> case reported.
In some cases, this could be indicative of an edified hoaxer
utilizing ever more sophisticated techniques. I am afraid the crop
circle enigma is proving to be just this type of situation.
DM> I think it is time to begin to look at the phenomena as it
DM> truly is, the TRICKSTER, and not some external, non-viewer
DM> dependant natural (even if extraterrestrial) experience.
I agree Doug - whatever phenomena (apart from hoaxes) *are*
occurring here, are probably *not* actually existing as we believe
them to be, a proviso dependent on our perceptual limitations.
DM> For instance, if the greys, as described in Jacobs new book,
DM> are able to project certain, seemingly real images into an
DM> abductees mind for a few minutes to test them, is it not
DM> concievable that they are able to project the entire
DM> abduction experience into their mind?
Or, carrying this line of thought a step further, that *something
else*, entirely beyond our comprehension is "projecting" the image
of alien abduction into our consciousness. But what?.. and why??
Jacobs, as you know, is convinced of the physicalness of the
abduction event due to such "evidence" as scaring, puncture
wounds, and the apparent fact that the victims can not be located
at the time of the abduction. Then again, there have been reports
of abductions occurring to individuals while *under direct
physical observation* by experienced investigators. There is no
way for the victim to have ever left the scene. The Australian
Puddy case is one that comes to mind. Of course, Jacobs might
counter that a physical abduction *might* have occurred - with the
investigators simply being temporarily "switched off", as he
defines it in his book. Since this event transpired in a moving
vehicle and the investigators themselves suffered no missing time
episode, I find this explanation unlikely. I do however, remain
open-minded to this prospect, remote as it may seem.
Take care,
Sheldon (netmail @ FIDO 1:11/50)
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From: Peggy.Noonan@p0.f150.n30163.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Peggy Noonan)
Subject: Re: 92 Ufo Con-colospgs
Date: 29 Mar 92 19:17:00 GMT
Hi Linda,
thanks for letting me know that was the same conference you
had info on. Yes, that price is HIGH!!! Way over my budget, though
there might be a media discount involved, but I think that's going
to put off a lot of people. In these economic times, who can afford
that big a ticket, even if it does include the whole package and
weekend?
Thanks for the note, by the way...rec'd safely!
==Peggy==
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From: Peggy.Noonan@p0.f605.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Peggy Noonan)
Subject: Ogden Mystery
Date: 29 Mar 92 22:08:03 GMT
>It looks as if the mystery surrounding the Ogden Object(s) just
>won't go away! Keep hanging in there.
>
Hi Linda,
How true! Did you see the new info from David Worthington (sp?)
about the book, _The Ogden Enigma_ by Gene Snyder? Amazing stuff.
(If you didn't see it, let me know -- I've captured it and can
repost for you.)
==Peggy==
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From: Peggy.Noonan@p0.f605.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Peggy Noonan)
Subject: Cosmic ThAng and Cure-aliens
Date: 29 Mar 92 22:14:04 GMT
>"cured." If that makes him feel better, who am I to criticize?
>In any case, it certainly is "strange stuff."
>However, given the current feelings in the Compuserve
>Paranormal Issues section towards questioning attitudes, I
>think I'll keep my opinions to myself. Good or bad.
I know what you mean! Things got very hot for a while there. One
of the long-time participants told me (in separate EMail) that he
was going to plead with SysOp Ted Markley to get the contenders back
into neutral corners and remove that kind of fighting. Discussion
is one thing, but that really went off the wall and I have to agree
that it seemed to intimidate everyone who might otherwise have
wanted to comment.
I don't know about Cos' and his claims, but he sure sounds like a
man who's had some very big problems. Remember he said he had beena
(oops) been asked to be on a TV program with Dr. Jacobs talking
about abductee experiences? I've just recently heard that such a
program has aired and 4 abductees were guests of Dr. Jacobs to
illustrate the story. I didn't get the names of the guests (and
didn't see the show myself). Did you happen to hear of this, or do
you know of Cosmic ThAng was one of the four?
==Peggy==
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From: Peggy.Noonan@p0.f605.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Peggy Noonan)
Subject: Re: Line-up: Weird Nite
Date: 29 Mar 92 22:23:07 GMT
>Peggy! Please keep those of us who live far away posted about
>more weird nights on KOA radio! I live in Minnesota and can
>get KOA in the evenings! Thanks.
Okay, Don, willdo! I will tell Rick that he's got a listener in
Minnesota too -- do you call in?
I'm hoping we can get the info out sooner so people can get the
lineup and plan accordingly but this last time the show wasn't "set"
until about 5 pm of the same night, so we couldn't get it to you
sooner. Mark your calendar, though, for 4 weeks from that date --
should be 4/17 -- for the next one. I won't know for sure until
that week, but will get the list out as soon as possible.
Thanks for the nice note!
==peggy==
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From: Peggy.Noonan@p0.f605.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Peggy Noonan)
Subject: Aztalan/cahokia/prehistoric
Date: 29 Mar 92 22:31:08 GMT
>East. At Cahokia there is a wooden pole circle with alignments
>also.
>
>On another note, the Golden Ratio = Phi 1.62 which the 51.5
>degree angle relates to, naturally occurs in conch shells,
>humans, and Venus when compared to Earth. Another point for me
>to investigate whenever I get some time. Right now I'm busy
>self distructing via alcohol abuse, but that's related to
>personal things which you already have an idea about.
----This is really fascinating stuff! I didn't know that
about the Golden Ratio , but the Venus connection links to some old
stuff I read somewhere about ancient Celtic connections to Venus and
special relationships there. I wonder if it's in the "Face on
Mars" too...can't remember from Hoagland's book.
"self destructing via alcohol" -- it's not worth it, Pete.
Know too many very special people who've been there and even though
the anesthetic value seems high at the time, when the bill comes
due, the price is a whopper. The enemy -- you know who I mean --
wins if you go that route. Become an exercise fanatic
instead...then you can contend with stress fractures and shin
splints and "healty" ailments that go along with exercise-triggered
endorphin release (brain's own natural opiates, "feel good drugs"
and pain relievers).
>
>Meanwhile about the Sat. dish vs breakfast. Don't be so
>selfish! If you give up breakfast for 5.5 years you could
>afford the dish... 8*)
--Gee, only 5.5 years? Well, that's Different! How could I
turn down such a deal! ;-)
Don't let the gremlins get to you...YOUR mind would be a
terrible thing to waste. You've got too much neat stuff up there,
and you've hardly begun to tell me about all of it, so hang on.
==Peggy==
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From: Anson.Kennedy@p0.f25.n1012.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Anson Kennedy)
Subject: The B-2 Ufo
Date: 30 Mar 92 03:25:00 GMT
> Anson;
> Check the back issues of UFO Magazine. We ran the full
> story in two parts of Tony Gonsalves research.
> Don
Next (obvious) question:
In which back issues were the articles?
Could you give me a hint about his research in the meantime?
--- Anson
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From: Anson.Kennedy@p0.f25.n1012.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Anson Kennedy)
Subject: Cosmic Thang And Cure-aliens
Date: 30 Mar 92 03:37:00 GMT
> I don't know about Cos' and his claims, but he sure
> sounds like a man who's had some very big problems.
> Remember he said he had beena (oops) been asked to be
> on a TV program with Dr. Jacobs talking about abductee
> experiences? I've just recently heard that such a
> program has aired and 4 abductees were guests of Dr.
> Jacobs to illustrate the story. I didn't get the
> names of the guests (and didn't see the show myself).
> Did you happen to hear of this, or do you know of
> Cosmic ThAng was one of the four?
I know Dr. Jacobs was on the Joan Rivers Show earlier this week and he had some
abductees with him. I was home sick and missed iit (I could kick myself, but
who wudda thought he'd be on Joan Rivers?), so I haven't any idea who was with
him.
If anyone out there has that show in video tape, maybe we can work out a deal,
huh?
--- Anson
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From: Doug.Morrow@p0.f150.n30163.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Doug Morrow)
Subject: Mycroft
Date: 30 Mar 92 16:02:00 GMT
Sheldon,
One of the issues that needs to be addressed in our quest to make
some sense of all of this is the increasing strangeness factor in
the phenomena. The point I was trying to make in my comment about
the newest sightings or abductions being the strangest goes far
beyond the likelyhood of hoaxes. yes, they may be a factor, but I
suspectthat there is something much more profound behind the
strangeness factor.
Before I go on, though, let me begin to define some terms that I
think are very important.
TRICKSTER, for the sake of this discussion, is assumed to be an
external intelligence, whether from outer space (a VISITOR) or some
other dimension (a la Vallee's ideas: FAIRIE). This entity(s) is
quite capable of modifing "ordinary reality", and making us (at
least individually) see and experience whatever it wants, whenever
it wants.
PHYSICAL TRACES need to be considered in the context of human
stigmata, forms of which can be traced back hundreds of years (there
needs to be some work done with people in medicine and
parapsychology reguarding this phenomena). Therefore, a puncture
wound, scar or even an implant "may" be generated by some human
capacity, triggered by the TRICKSTER, or may come from some
internal, subconscious human trigger.
OK; where does this leave us? If it can be just about anything, how
do we narrow down what it might "really" be?
My suggestion is that, in the area of abductions at least, we begin
with the theory that the abductions are caused by simple VISITORS
(i.e. just what David and Bud seem to think they are, aliens from
some other planet, here to cross breed with us or to modify our human
stock for their own purposes.)
If that theory is true, does it make sense? And spare me the
complaint that one hears all too often that we can't understand
alien actions or motivations. If the Simple VISITORS hypothesis is
true, then we can understand then very well...not approve, perhaps,
but understand...
I'll get into that question later... I'm going to sign off for now.
By the way, thanks for your thoughts...I always like to meet another
individual who agrees with me. It probably won't last to long, but
lets enjoy it will we can.
Doug.
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