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Info-ParaNet Newsletters Volume 1 Number 524
Info-ParaNet Newsletters Volume I Number 524
Monday, January 20th 1992
Today's Topics:
Doug and Dave
UFORA Book
Re: Cis Message
Amazon Question
Deuterium
David Jacobs is back!
Re: Maitreya 2/2
Mysticism
Re: Maitreya 1/2
(none)
Anomalies in the Andes
Puerto Rico
(none)
Re: Texas Camps
Re: Texas Camps
11:11
hieronymous
Re: New Planets?
Green Meteors
Map
Puerto Rico
AUSSIE CROP CIRCLE
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From: Keith.Basterfield@f12.n1040.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Keith Basterfield)
Subject: Doug and Dave
Date: 10 Jan 92 04:44:00 GMT
Colin Andrews even made it to little old Adelaide! However, I have not
heard from anyone in Oz that Doug and Dave made it here.
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From: Vladimir.Godic@f7.n1040.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Vladimir Godic)
Subject: UFORA Book
Date: 12 Jan 92 03:47:00 GMT
Mark,
I phoned Dynamo publishers a couple of days ago but there was no
answer. I then rang the manager at his home and his wife told me they
are still on vacation till January 20. However, she said you can order
the book by fax. Just leave your name, address and Visa card number
and they'll despatch the book as soon as they get back to work.
Regards,
Vlad
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From: Peggy.Noonan@p0.f605.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Peggy Noonan)
Subject: Re: Cis Message
Date: 11 Jan 92 15:35:01 GMT
>Got your message and the address, I started making up a package
>of articles for you. Should be leaving the office UPS on Monday
>or Tuesday.
Hi Pete,
Great news!! I reposted on CIS this morning and then called
your BBS too, just in case (the line on this BBS was busy so I
didn't see your message here first.) Sorry for the repetition! But
many, many thanks for the reply. Please ignore the duplicate
messages that now will clutter your mail <g>!
>
>As usual note the time on the message. a few hours sleep and
>here I am at the keyboard again. For a change I'm at home not
>the office.
Re the time, I'm usually at it early myself, starting work around
3:30 or so in the dark-time. Actually it's a great time to work or
to BBS because for the former there are fewer interruptions and no
phone calls from cemetary plot salesmen (no offense any of you out
there who read this and follow that "calling"), and for the latter,
there seems to be less of a problem with line noise. --Gee, they
let you play computers at work too? What a deal! ;-)
>
>Nothing new on West who says the sphinx is much older than
>generally accepted. How many days until 11:11? I'm not too
>concerned as time and the dates are all man made and have
>nothing to do with the cosmic relationships.
The Sphinx thing is really interesting...haven't seen anything new
myself, but am hoping. Did you see the UFONS clips on that? Pretty
good detail.
I agree about the dates -- manmade concepts are not material in
cosmic arenas. Remember the Russell, Kansas, pair, Butts and
Corder, who got their UFO info and catastrophe predictions from
"Peter/Cephas" the angel? He kept getting the dates wrong and when
they were pressed to ask him why he couldn't get it right when he's
supposed to be able to see it all as if reading a book forward and
backward, he said our earth times were not relevant to real time and
it was easy to make errors in the translation (gist of it - not
literally what was reported.) So if Peter the Great can goof, why
not the others for the same reason?
;-)
Thanks so much for the reply. I'll be eager to see the
packet and happy to reimburse postage too.
==Peggy==
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From: Peggy.Noonan@p0.f605.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Peggy Noonan)
Subject: Amazon Question
Date: 11 Jan 92 15:45:02 GMT
> > of people in South America.
> You've read Tristan Jones?!!! Wow!
> I met him about nine years ago in Key West; kept the beer
>coming and he kept the stories coming. Amazing guy! Maybe the
>fact that I was a scuzzy sailor helped. ;-)
> Now that you mention it, I remember something about the
>fair-skinned people too. I *think* it may have been in
>_Adrift_, but it's been so long since I've read his books I
>don't remember.
Hi John,
Yep, I'm a big fan of Jones' books. I'd read the first
couple before the article in Writer's Digest that told how he wrote
while at sea and showed a photo of him in the cabin, perched over a
typewriter -- has forever humbled me (any time I grump about not
having time or comforts for writing, I think of him trying to write
in at-sea conditions _and getting it done!_ and I shut up again!)
I've read most of his books and now that you mention
_Adrift_ I'll recheck..probably was that one. I didn't finish a
couple of the more technical books, but thoroughly enjoyed all the
rest. What a wonderful time you must've had quaffing brews with a
storyteller like that! I've often thought how great that would be.
And, actually I owe Tristan Jones a debt. His books were the spur
that made a very great change in our lives (my husband and me, that
is) and we've said many times if he's ever around and available,
we'll buy him a drink anytime. (Getting to talk to him too would be
gravy!) Probably people like him don't realize what they do for
their readers, but I've read other people who said they got their
inspiration or courage or will or whatever from reading TJ's books,
that his quiet determination and willpower was so inspiring they
gained new perspective on their own little problems and were able to
overcome them. From the way he writes, I would guess he wouldn't
like such "frou-frou" talk, but nevertheless, he's done a lot of
good for a lot of people by just telling his stories in unvarnished,
straightforward and honest fashion.
Ah, a fellow Jones fan, 'tis great indeed!
(If I can find the reference, I'll let you know...try to
post the page, etc. and quote.)
BTW, I didn't realize you were a serious sailor. One
assumes anyone near H2O is some kind of waterbug, but being one who
can share the company of a T.Jones is quite something else again.
Wow!
**
^^^^^^<________>^^^^^^ ==Peggy==
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From: Sheldon.Wernikoff@p0.f605.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Sheldon Wernikoff)
Subject: Deuterium
Date: 12 Jan 92 05:40:01 GMT
In a message to Sheldon Wernikoff <09-Jan-92 09:51>
Pete Porro wrote:
PP> Isn't Deuterium usually known as heavy water? (H3O used in
PP> reactors) Or am I confusing Deuterium Oxide with what you are
PP> writing about?
Hi Pete... Deuterium is "heavy hydrogen", Deuterium Oxide (D20) is
the "heavy water" you refer to. Elemental hydrogen consists of a
single proton nucleus orbited by one electron, whereas isotopic
deuterium contains the addition of one neutron to the hydrogen
nucleus. The deuteron is the nucleus of the deuterium atom, sans
the electron. We'll be hearing a great deal about the "D" word in
the coming months re: CC research. Time will tell if there is a
valid correlation.
Take care,
Sheldon
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From: Michael.Corbin@p0.f428.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Michael Corbin)
Subject: David Jacobs is back!
Date: 12 Jan 92 19:19:00 GMT
Just an announcement to let everyone know that David Jacobs is back with us
on the ParaNet Adbuctions Conference. Internetters can request the daily list
by sending your request to abduct-request@shemtaia.weeg.uiowa.edu. As most of
you know, David is the author of an excellent reference book, The UFO
Controversy in America. He is also working on an upcoming book on abductions.
Mike
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From: Linda.Bird@f100.n1010.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Linda Bird)
Subject: Re: Maitreya 2/2
Date: 12 Jan 92 20:21:00 GMT
Hi Don,
Help! My first instinct, when reading what you just posted, it to run
in panic! I don't want to have anything to do with such people with
such notions. It makes me dizzy, and IMHO, anyone who finds comfort in
such droolings, is lost!
Thanks for posting! All this means to me is that for hundreds of
years, people (some people) have been looking for a Hero to rescue
them. Didn't the Germans see Hitler as such a Hero? Does George Bush
see himself as such a Hero when he talked of The New World Order?
Some of the hard-liner Contactees see Aliens as "Space
Brothers"--Heroes who will save them. The sad thing is that these
Heroes take away too many of our freedoms and turn us into mindless
creatures.
Coming down off my soap box,
Linda
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From: Andre.Eichner@f10.n245.z2.FIDONET.ORG (Andre Eichner)
Subject: Mysticism
Date: 6 Jan 92 07:40:00 GMT
Hello Mike!
In a msg of <21 Dec 91>, Mike Dennis writes to All:
MD> In reference to telepathic communication, Dr. Barbara Young wishes to
MD> correspond on the following subjects.
MD> 1. Are you interested in training for telepathic communication.
MD> 2. Remote viewing.
MD> 3. Movement through time.
MD> 4. mystical training.
MD> a) Excaliber sword.
MD> 5. Attainment of knowledge beyond what is written.
Oh yes, please. I'm very interested.
Any good and easy ideas?
cheers
Andre
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From: Steve.Rose@p0.f134.n109.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Steve Rose)
Subject: Re: Maitreya 1/2
Date: 13 Jan 92 06:45:00 GMT
DA> |=|=|=|=|=|=|=|=|=|=|=|=|=|=|
DA> He has been expected for generations by all of the major religions.
DA> Christians know Him as the Christ, and expect His imminent return. The
DA> Jews await Him as the Messiah; the Hindus look for the coming of
DA> ! Origin: PARANET//UFINET//BAMA//UFO_LINK (407)649-4136 (1:363/29)
Come on, Don. Even for you... this "Hal Gurney's Network Bandwidth
Wasters" series is a low blow...
...I think. ;-)
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From: ecn.purdue.edu!lush
Subject: (none)
Date: 13 Jan 92 20:39:17 GMT
From: lush@ecn.purdue.edu (Gregory B Lush)
Subject: Anomalies in the Andes
? Hmmm, indeed. Actually, some of the most interesting stuff is underwater on
? the U.S. Costal Shelf, around Bermuda and the Caribbean islands, and in the
? Gulf of Mexico. I seem to recall the discovery of a well-preserved stone
? staircase leading down to a beach on the Yucatan.
?
? But the beach is now 150' underwater, the stairs begin almost 100' underwater,
? and they clearly correspond to sea levels of B.C. 20,000.
?
? There's a similar anomaly just below Mancu Picu in the Andes: a stairway leads
? down to the beach. The beach is at about 11,000 feet elevation, and seems to
? have been there before the Mountains rose to their present height! In fact the
? whole city of Mancu Picu has been 'undatable' according to some sources,
? because it was virtually earthquake-proof (until the Conquistadores removed
? the flexible silver braces from the buildings).
?
? Best,
? Clark
What are your sources, Clark?
Thanks
Greg (lush@ecn.purdue.edu)
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From: Winn.Schwartau@p0.f150.n30163.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Winn Schwartau)
Subject: Puerto Rico
Date: 14 Jan 92 07:09:00 GMT
Been hearing a couple of rumors:
1. In late Nov early Dec, over Puerto Rico, 2 F-14's played tag with
a UFO in front of lots of people AND a TV camera from the local station.
I've heard several people talk about it, but no one who has seen/has access
to the video. According to Hard Copy production staff, they were outbid for
the video by another 'news' organization.
2. The Feds are going to come clean. Been able to trace this to a
Dr. Robert Carr at the Univ of Southern Florida who is tied to the Feds
somehow.
Interested in why I'm as nuts as them or maybe ?????
:-)
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From: Don.Allen@f29.n363.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Don Allen)
Subject: (none)
Date: 12 Jan 92 23:10:00 GMT
nn> Dr. John Coleman is an expert in intelligence and is now
nn> contributing to the Phoenix Liberator. He wrote an article
nn> in the last issue about the Noriega trial. He talked about
nn> the weakness of the prosecution's case, the judge's
nn> behavior,
nn> and how the flow of drugs has increased since he was taken,
nn> after steadily decreasing while he was in power.
nn>
nn> It's well written with some inside information from his
nn> own unnamed sources. He also talks about something called
nn> the
nn> Defoe Report which is unavailable to the public because of
nn> 'national security'--it allegedly details Bush's
nn> involvement.
nn>
nn> If any of you would like a copy of the article,
nn> I can make copies and send them to you at no cost.
Greg..I would love to get a copy of this report. Please send to:
Don Allen
1818G Landing Dr.
Sanford,Fl 32771
Thanks!
Don
dona@bilver.uucp
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From: Kay.Mclaughlin@p0.f134.n109.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Kay Mclaughlin)
Subject: Re: Texas Camps
Date: 10 Jan 92 18:19:00 GMT
DE> Kay Mclaughlin asked;
> On the Chuck Harder Show the other night, I heard a snippet about how
> various private pilots(?) have been seeing "concentration type camps"(!)
> springing up in the wilds of Texas. I didn't catch the whole thing, but
> it sounded weird, he said he was looking into it.
> Heard anything?
DE> Kay, like many people researching the UFO field, I have heard various
DE> rumors over the years about "detention camps" or "concentration camps"
DE> being set up for various "polictical unreliables" in the event of
DE> internal U.S. problems. Perhaps some of the various govt. types that
DE> inhabit this forum could enlighten us but I will not hold my breath.
DE> HOWEVER:
DE> I to heard that on the Harder show, so I went investigating my newest
DE> version of Ralph McGeHee's CIABASE. The following is what I found, and
DE> what McGeHee has included in this fantastic computer database on the
DE> various covert agencies.
DE> ***********************************************************************
Don,
Thanks so much, that was exactly the distant bell that rang in my head
when I heard the rumor. FEMA, FEMA, FEMA. Bingo!
In addition to government types, do we have any pilots here? For some
reason "private" pilots were specifically mentioned, nothing said about
Commercial Pilots, not sure what that implied.
Regards,
Kay
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From: Kay.Mclaughlin@p0.f134.n109.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Kay Mclaughlin)
Subject: Re: Texas Camps
Date: 10 Jan 92 18:39:00 GMT
KM> On the Chuck Harder Show the other night, I heard a snippet
KM> about how
KM> various private pilots(?) have been seeing "concentration
KM> type camps"(!)
KM> springing up in the wilds of Texas. I didn't catch the
KM> whole thing, but
KM> it sounded weird, he said he was looking into it.
DA> This sounds suspiciously like the REX-84 Bravo plan (FEMA) plan..
DA> What's that you ask?
DA> I have this snippet handy:
DA> SECRET CONCENTRATION CAMPS
Don,
Thanks, see my previous post to Don E., this is in fact what rang a
bell in my cobwebbed brain when I heard it.
I also remember a lot of talk, because FEMA had had a difficult time
mobilizing relief for Hurricane Hugo, around the time that this story
broke.
Regards,
Kay
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From: Danny.Brandenburg@p0.f1.n606.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Danny Brandenburg)
Subject: 11:11
Date: 13 Jan 92 09:50:10 GMT
> How many days until 11:11?
Exactly what date is 11:11 to happen on? Also, does anyone know if
11:11 is only a product of the Phoenix Institute or is it larger than
this group?
Danny Brandenburg
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From: Danny.Brandenburg@p0.f1.n606.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Danny Brandenburg)
Subject: hieronymous
Date: 13 Jan 92 10:04:20 GMT
With all of the talk about the hieronymous machines lately, I am still
really unsure what the thing is. Could someone easily explain what this
thing A) really is B) what it is suppose to do?
Thanks much,
Danny Brandenburg
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From: Danny.Brandenburg@p0.f1.n606.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Danny Brandenburg)
Subject: Re: New Planets?
Date: 13 Jan 92 10:06:46 GMT
Linda,
Hi, long time no message (?). About the new planets... Has there
been any indication on what the scientists think about the planets
actually being there? For instance, theoretically, the planets should
have been destroyed in the later stages of the star's development. Why
would have these planets still be "hanging" around?
Good to be back from break,
Danny Brandenburg
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From: Michael.Corbin@p0.f428.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Michael Corbin)
Subject: Green Meteors
Date: 14 Jan 92 20:55:00 GMT
* Forwarded from "Alt.Alien.Visitors"
* Originally from Mark S Gilstrap
* Originally dated 01-13-92 18:03
From: anachem@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (mark s gilstrap)
Date: 13 Jan 92 17:41:05 GMT
Organization: Indiana University
Message-ID: <1992Jan13.174105.6802@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
While driving to St Louis early Sat morning, I watched a
green meteor in the southern sky. It was just a regular
one and all, except that it was green. This reminded me
of the tales my father had of two particular ones he had
seen.
In addition to regular green meteors he had seen, two others
were something special, and he always communicated a sense of
awe when relating the stories. One in particular (in the 50's)
was so slow moving and so long lasting that he was sure it
was not a meteor. It was also seen across the continent by many
people. I think it was this that led him to want to attend the
KC UFO club meetings in the early sixties.
I don't recall the theories he had or had heard about these
or the details that made people think they were not meteors.
Can someone tell me more about the reasons people did (and
still do?) place emphasis on these slow-moving celestial
events?
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From: Linda.Bird@f100.n1010.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Linda Bird)
Subject: Map
Date: 15 Jan 92 02:40:00 GMT
Hello someone.....
Somebody asked about a map showing the 12th planet (or something like
that) and I blithered that I had a copy of it and would be happy to
sent it out.
Well, unfortunately, the flu bug had my Brain that day, and I now can't
remember who wanted the map. I *thought* I save the message as well
as that kind person's address, but there musta been a virus in the
computer as WELL!
So, whoever you are, will you please write again, and accept my humble
apologies?
Thanks! Linda
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From: Jim.Speiser@p666.f100.n1010.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Jim Speiser)
Subject: Puerto Rico
Date: 14 Jan 92 16:44:52 GMT
In a message to Anyone <14 Jan 92 00:09> Winn Schwartau wrote:
WS> Been hearing a couple of rumors:
WS> 1. In late Nov early Dec, over Puerto Rico, 2 F-14's
WS> played tag with a UFO in front of lots of people AND a TV camera
WS> from the local station. I've heard several people talk about it,
WS> but no one who has seen/has access to the video. According to
WS> Hard Copy production staff, they were outbid for the video by
WS> another 'news' organization.
There HAS been a major flap in Puerto Rico, and I did hear of a possible plane
chase, but nothing that recent. The people at UFO Magazine might know more.
WS> 2. The Feds are going to come clean. Been able to trace
WS> this to a Dr. Robert Carr at the Univ of Southern Florida who is
WS> tied to the Feds somehow.
This fellow Carr has been making this claim for literally decades. He seems to
be a wacko, tied into the Deep Blue rumor mill (underground bases, face-eating
aliens, etc.) I wouldn't pay much attention.
Jim
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From: Keith.Basterfield@f12.n1040.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Keith Basterfield)
Subject: AUSSIE CROP CIRCLE
Date: 11 Jan 92 22:01:00 GMT
GIGANTIC CROP CIRCLE DISCOVERED IN SOUTH AUSTRALIA!
TO BE SHOWN SHORTLY ON U.S. TV!
Last night's TV news carried an item about the discovery of a complex,
gigantic wheat paddock crop circle in the south-east of South
Australia-my home state. Sorry, folks, it's a man made one
created for a U.S. car maker's advertising campaign.
Apparently it looks like the Buick car emblem and the US film
producers came "down under" as it is crop season here. The TV news
item said it will be shown in the US within 2 weeks-keep an eye out!
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