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Info-ParaNet Newsletters Volume 1 Number 517
Info-ParaNet Newsletters Volume I Number 517
Wednesday, January 8th 1992
Today's Topics:
Kidd Drive
UFORA DIGITAL BOOK
Mysticism
Noriega Trial
Abduction
Ray Stanford
Re: UFO BOOK ON COMPUTER
UFO RESEARCH IN AUSTRALIA & NEW ZEALAND digital book info
Omni Online
Mysticism
Ray Stanford
Noriega Trial
Kidd Drive
Recent New South Wales, Australia, reports
*** TV ALERT ***
(none)
Suicides?
An Interesting Development ...
Crop circles
Mysticism
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From: Vladimir.Godic@f7.n1040.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Vladimir Godic)
Subject: Kidd Drive
Date: 21 Dec 91 20:11:00 GMT
> What the heck is the Hieronymous Machine?
Jim,
Pardon me butting in, but I am surprised you don't know what the
Hieronymous Machine is.
It is a contraption that will do anything and everything for you.
We built one many years ago (from drawings and specifications) but we
were scared to try it out.
Vlad
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From: Vladimir.Godic@f7.n1040.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Vladimir Godic)
Subject: UFORA DIGITAL BOOK
Date: 22 Dec 91 17:12:00 GMT
Seeing that some of you are interest in UFORA computer book, I'll get
in touch with our publisher and find out price in US dollars,
including packaging and posting surface and air mail.
If you have any further question re the book, please contact me.
WISHING YOU ALL A VERY HAPPY HOLLIDAY SEASON.
VLAD
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From: Mike.Dennis@f100.n1010.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Mike Dennis)
Subject: Mysticism
Date: 22 Dec 91 05:16:00 GMT
In reference to telepathic communication, Dr. Barbara Young wishes to
correspond on the following subjects.
1. Are you interested in training for telepathic communication.
2. Remote viewing.
3. Movement through time.
4. mystical training.
a) Excaliber sword.
5. Attainment of knowledge beyond what is written.
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From: Don.Allen@f29.n363.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Don Allen)
Subject: Noriega Trial
Date: 21 Dec 91 16:45:00 GMT
JS> Don:
JS>
JS> Was it you that told us that Noriega's trial was proceeding
JS> in Fla.? I know this is gonna sound ridiculous, but could
JS> you source me on that? Newspapers? Newsmagazines? CNN?
JS> What's the deal? I still haven't heard word one, and I'm
JS> beginning to wonder if maybe you misheard, or misread, or
JS> maybe I did...
Jim..the trial is in it's 10th week..the prosecution just finished
and now the defense is about to get rolling. The prosecution's case
doesn't look all that good.
CNN has only started reporting on it in just the last few days. The
local newspapers have only sparse bits on it down here. The very
next newspaper article I come across on this I will type up and put
here.
Don
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From: Peggy.Noonan@p0.f150.n30163.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Peggy Noonan)
Subject: Abduction
Date: 22 Dec 91 13:03:00 GMT
>Hi Peggy, thanks for the Richard Price tape. I have listened to
>it several times over and find it fascinating. It contains some
>material the same as the printed article that's on it's way to
>you, and some new material. Thanks again for sending it to me.
>BTW I finished that article on implants I have been working on
>and have despatched it to the International UFO Reporter for
>consideration of publication. Hard proof still evades us,
>despite there being some hearsay material floating around.
I'm so glad the tape reached you safely and proved worth listening
to as well! It's good to know there was some new material that you
hadn't already come across. I was intrigued by his mention of the
videotapes and photos in it which, if I understood him correctly,
Price is offering to the public or will be offering for sale
shortly. If he really does show all those photos he says he has of
his implant, it should be quite something to see. Will you be
contacting him directly via that address he gave at the end of the
tape? Perhaps this collection of his photos/video would be a good
addition to UFORA's stocks.
I'm very interested in the article you've sent to International UFO
Reporter (do you have their address, by the way? I'd like to
contact them too for info on sample copies, subscription prices,
etc.) and will look forward to hearing more when they've accepted
it. Are you a contract writer for IUFOR? Or are you at liberty
to offer the same material elsewhere?
Thank you again for the packet of information. Great stuff!
==Peggy==
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From: Bill.Chalker.UFORA.Associate.NSW@f8.n1040.z9.FIDONET.ORG
Subject: Ray Stanford
Date: 22 Dec 91 16:52:00 GMT
>
> Wasn't that Project Starlight International? I don't
> know what their status is, but I know someone who
> would. Contact Dale Goudie at CUFON in Seattle. Don't
> have his number handy, but its in the 206 area.
Yes is was Project Starlight International. See for example
Curran's book "In Advance of the Landing" and Ray's own book
"Socorro Saucer in a Pentagon Pantry" for more info. The
site development re UFO monitoring I believe is now defunct?
> I just realized I met you in person at the 87 MUFON
> conference. We shared an elevator in the Bethesda
> Holiday Inn!
Jim, I was at the 87 conference as a lecturer, but I'm sure
I was at the Bethesda Holiday Inn. Mind you with jet lag at
various times I wasn't even sure I was on the planet!
Thanks for the reply.
Best regards, Bill Chalker
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From: Bill.Chalker.UFORA.Associate.NSW@f8.n1040.z9.FIDONET.ORG
Subject: Re: UFO BOOK ON COMPUTER
Date: 22 Dec 91 16:55:00 GMT
> Hi Bill,
> We'll be waiting to see how to purchase this in U$
> dollar$.
> Thanks!
> Linda
Thanks for your interest. As soon as we have this
information we will post it. Regards from Bill Chalker
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From: Vladimir.Godic@f7.n1040.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Vladimir Godic)
Subject: UFO RESEARCH IN AUSTRALIA & NEW ZEALAND digital book info
Date: 23 Dec 91 06:42:00 GMT
Unfortunately at the time the book was released, I was in transit
moving from Adelaide, in South Australia, to Cairns, in Far North
Queensland. It took a few weeks to get settled here and so I
apologize for not having had the following information sooner.
The book is available directly from:
DYNAMO HOUSE Pty Ltd
PO BOX 110
RICHMOND VIC 3121
AUSTRALIA
TEL: 61- 03-427- 0955
or 61- 03-428- 3636 Fax: 61- 03- 429- 8036
COST: Australian $ 30.00 plus postage
POSTAGE: Air mail to U.S.A. $2.50 (Australian)
Air mail to U.K. $3.00 (Australian)
The book can be purchased on VISA credit card, or cheque, (in
Australian currency) and will be despatched by return mail.
Within Australia the above price applies but at local postal rates.
For any further enquiries please contact me direct or, if you prefer,
contact the publisher.
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From: Peggy.Noonan@p0.f605.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Peggy Noonan)
Subject: Omni Online
Date: 22 Dec 91 14:29:04 GMT
>Peggy:
>I've noticed that in the last 2 issues of _Omni_ there has been
>no "Antimatter" section and hence, no "UFO Update". Did they
>drop it or what?
> -- John
John,
No, they tell me that it's one of the most popular features
so it'll be retained. I think they did this last Christmas too,
though I don't know why...will have to ask sometime. Should be back
for January.
==Peggy==
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From: Michael.Corbin@p0.f428.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Michael Corbin)
Subject: Mysticism
Date: 23 Dec 91 01:08:00 GMT
> In reference to telepathic communication, Dr. Barbara Young wishes to
> correspond on the following subjects.
> 1. Are you interested in training for telepathic communication.
> 2. Remote viewing.
> 3. Movement through time.
> 4. mystical training.
> a) Excaliber sword.
> 5. Attainment of knowledge beyond what is written.
Who is Dr. Barbara Young, and what are her credentials, etc.?
Thanks,
Mike
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From: Michael.Corbin@p0.f428.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Michael Corbin)
Subject: Ray Stanford
Date: 23 Dec 91 01:09:00 GMT
> Yes is was Project Starlight International. See for example Curran's
> book "In Advance of the Landing" and Ray's own book "Socorro Saucer in a
> Pentagon Pantry" for more info. The site development re UFO monitoring
> I believe is now defunct?
How can I get a copy of this publication?
Mike
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From: Jim.Speiser@p666.f100.n1010.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Jim Speiser)
Subject: Noriega Trial
Date: 21 Dec 91 20:06:59 GMT
In a message to Jim Speiser <20 Dec 91 07:24> Jim Greenen wrote:
JG> * Replying to a message originally to Don Allen
> JS> Don:
> JS>
> JS> Was it you that told us that Noriega's trial was proceeding
> JS> in Fla.? I know this is gonna sound ridiculous, but could
> JS> you source me on that? Newspapers? Newsmagazines? CNN?
> JS> What's the deal? I still haven't heard word one, and I'm
> JS> beginning to wonder if maybe you misheard, or misread, or
> JS> maybe I did...
> JS>
> JS> Jim
> JS>
JG> Jim, Don is right and the trial has been going on for sometime.
JG> Starting next week, the defense will make its presentation on the
JG> behalf of Noriega. It smells of the James "Bo" Grz trial where it
JG> was completely black-out from the city limits of Las Vegas. Lars
JG> Hannson has been covering the trial and has written some news
JG> articules on it. Can't get a major newspaper or TV station to
JG> touch it. It makes you wonder just whats going on. 73'S ---JIM---
I contacted our local PBS station to see if "All Things Considered" had covered
it - if anyone would have, they would have. They did one piece last Monday just
to say that the prosecution had wrapped. The guy told me that as things come
out during the defense, there should be more coverage, "otherwise they deserve
to get their butt kicked."
Does make ya wonder...meantime I'm sure we know EVERYTHING we want to know
about that landmark and historically important William Kennedy Smith case.
Jim
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From: Jim.Speiser@p666.f100.n1010.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Jim Speiser)
Subject: Kidd Drive
Date: 23 Dec 91 04:17:32 GMT
In a message to Jim Speiser <21 Dec 91 13:11> Vladimir Godic wrote:
>> What the heck is the Hieronymous Machine?
VG> Jim,
VG> Pardon me butting in, but I am surprised you don't know what the
VG> Hieronymous Machine is.
VG> It is a contraption that will do anything and everything for you.
VG> We built one many years ago (from drawings and specifications)
VG> but we were scared to try it out.
In that case, I'm scared to ask why!
Jim
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From: Jim.Speiser@p666.f100.n1010.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Jim Speiser)
Subject: Recent New South Wales, Australia, reports
Date: 23 Dec 91 04:56:26 GMT
In a message to All <19 Dec 91 22:58> Bill Chalker UFORA Associ wrote:
BCUA> Werris Creek. She reports being followed by strange lights.
BCUA> They appeared to been 4 red lights in a line with a green light
BCUA> underneath. The witness reports the light arrangement followed
BCUA> her car for several kilometres, and apparently came over her car.
BCUA> There was a whizzing noise at this point, whereupon there were 2
BCUA> brief episodes of power loss and all lights going out. When I
BCUA> interviewed the woman on December 15th, I determined that she did
BCUA> not actually see the lights pass over her car. She just presumed
BCUA> this was the case when she heard the unusual whizzing noise. She
BCUA> also told me that at its closest observed point the light display
BCUA> was in a adjacent paddock, ostensibly hovering above the grass,
BCUA> but apparently in front of a small hill (but below the summit
BCUA> line, ie. it clearly was below the skyline and apparently quite
BCUA> close). The experience terrified her and her fear was obvious to
BCUA> those she met when she arrived home.
Any possibility this was a helicopter, Bill? Except for the brief power
outtages, there doesn't seem to be any reason to rule it out.
Jim
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From: Jim.Speiser@p666.f100.n1010.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Jim Speiser)
Subject: *** TV ALERT ***
Date: 23 Dec 91 04:58:16 GMT
In a message to All <21 Dec 91 11:48> ncar!cbmvax.cbm.commodore wrote:
nc> The Christmas episode of 'Unsolved Mysteries' will be a rebroadcast of the
nc> season premiere covering the Bentwaters/Rendlesham case.
Jim:
We seem to have a basketball game playing at that time. Is that just us here
in Phoenix?
Jim
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From: ecn.purdue.edu!lush
Subject: (none)
Date: 23 Dec 91 19:33:36 GMT
From: lush@ecn.purdue.edu (Gregory B Lush)
?
? Now, every black helicopter spotted is part of the cover-up. Each
? new aircraft developed is touted as being a byproduct of 'alien'
? technology. Every television commercial involving ET's or UFO's is
? part of the government's 'adjustment and preparation' campaign.
? 'Mysterious' objects, implants, etc. are being found everywhere,
? but nothing definitive ever comes of these 'breakthroughs'. Our
? incessant hunger for more information is fed by the purveyors of
? trash in the UFO periodicals. 'Fringe group' conferences abound
? everywhere. Stanton Friedman even operates a '900' line where for
? $2.00/minute, you can listen to old UFO material. What a rip-off!
? Is that any way for a scientist to gain credibility?
?
? Everyone seems to collect books, videos, documents, and case
? histories - but to what end? This doesn't really bring us any
? closer to the truth, but it does help line the providers pockets.
? So, where do I think we're all headed? I guess I'll just have to
? 'channel' some Atlantean and find out. <grin>
?
? Regards,
?
? Sheldon Wernikoff - via FidoNet node 1:104/422
?
Well Sheldon, now you and everyone else have the chance to settle
many facets of this issue if not the whole shebang--all at once.
Sen. Patrick Moynihan (sp?) is introducing a bill that would
dismantle the CIA. This includes finding out how much money
has been spent on the so-called 'Black Projects.' If people
want this to happen, it could open files relating to all sorts
of things from the Kennedy Assasination, to Drugs/Noriega, to
Drugs/MIA-POWs, to October Surprise, to everything else, and
finally to the alien cover-up. It would have to be done quickly
as I'm sure much really good stuff would fall through the cracks
or shredders. I can't imagine a better opportunity to find out
what your government has been doing with your money. You ought
to be able to know.
One of the ones pushing this so hard is Special Prosecutor,
Laurence Walsh. I believe he headed the prosecution in the trials
of Oliver North. He got convictions that were overturned higher up.
It seems he may have found some things that you may want to know.
As evidenced by Sheldon's comments above, many people in this field
of study (UFOs) are frustrated by the lack of growth of knowledge
and information. Most additions of knowledge/information, when put
under your scrutiny, fall short of whatever it is that people are
looking for to help them decide what is truth. You now have the
opportunity to find out what you want to know, but only if this is
pursued by *ALL* with speed and diligence.
Why doesn't everyone take some time to write letters to all your
elected officials, both at the State level and the National level?
Write to Moynihan. Also write to those out of your voting area who
are on the appropriate committees, such as Defense, National Security
(I don't know the names of all the committees). If you want to push
the alien question, include with the letter some piece of evidence
that is convincing to you--not necessarily that aliens exist, but
that something is going on and say that you want to know the truth.
Some people seemed pretty impressed by the new Roswell book. You can
copy excerpts from that or anything else. What about the letter by
Barry Goldwater at the beginning of 'Above Top Secret' about how he
could not get in to see the hangars that have so many rumours swirling
about them? I think that is an important point--that the elected
representatives cannot get in to see what is inside and are now
allowed to know how much funding has been allocated to what project.
Why not demand of *YOUR* government *SERVANTS* that they open up
*ALL* those hangars and show what is inside. The Cold War is supposed
to be over, so there should be nothing to hide, right? If you really
want to see what that smell is, start stirring the pot. If you receive
no reply or an evasive reply, write back and demand an appropriate
response. There is quite a number of people who read this
newsletter, and the various other billboards and such.
Together, an impact can be made.
We all could really get things moving. There *ARE* still some
good people left in Congress/Senate; they will listen if enough
people shout--it's an election year upcoming. I'm not saying
that they are going to open up the files right away, but by making
them address the issue, you make them sweat. It can't hurt, and I
believe it will help somehow. We also need to open all those files
that were closed as 'Top Secret' because of "National Security."
I really don't see how anything else could tell show much in such
a short period of time.
I think this is the opportunity many have been crying for.
What do you all think?
Greg (lush@ecn.purdue.edu)
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From: Jim.Greenen@f29.n363.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Jim Greenen)
Subject: Suicides?
Date: 23 Dec 91 15:57:00 GMT
SW>
SW> In a message to Vladimir Godic <17-Dec-91> Jim Greenen
SW> wrote:
SW>
SW> JG> In America, there is a high percentage of researchers in UFOs
SW> JG> and government secrets that commit suicide....
SW>
SW> Hi Jim,
SW>
SW> That's a very interesting statement you've made there!
SW> Would it be
SW> possible for you to cite the source(s) of your data, and be
SW> a bit
SW> more specific as to what constitutes "a *high percentage*
SW> of
SW> researchers in UFO's". Additionally, how about elaborating
SW> on a few
SW> of the more notable ufological suicides?
SW>
SW> 73's back to ya --
SW>
SW> Sheldon, N9EHL @ 1:11/50
Well, lets see--- We got Dr. James McDonald, Morris K. Jessup to
name 2. Also according to Lars Hannson, there were 3 this year that
commited suicide. One was the person that uncovered the Inslaw
dealings.
I'm not really good with names but I can get ahold with Lars
(seems to have disappeared) I could get you the names. Not all these
people that research or are involved with Ufology or other reseach
commit ssuicid. Some seem to meet with unfortunate accidents. The 20
+ witnesses that were involved in the JFK shooting is a prime
example. I think some one did a study on that and the findings was
that for this to happen it would be 1 in one trillion chance. Pretty
stiff odds I would think that there was some hanky-panky going on.
73'S ---JIM--- WB8ZII
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From: Jim.Greenen@f29.n363.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Jim Greenen)
Subject: An Interesting Development ...
Date: 23 Dec 91 16:08:01 GMT
JS> In a message to Vladimir Godic <17 Dec 91 08:16> Jim
JS> Greenen wrote:
JS>
JS>
JS> JG> Vlad; The strongest instincts that a man has is survival then
JS> JG> comes that 3 letter wo that sounds like the number 6. Can you
JS> JG> blame anyone for not coming forward if there is a strong
JS> JG> possibility that he might commit suicide
JS> JG> shortly after he announces his name.
JS> JG> In America, there is a high percentage of researchers in UFOs
JS> JG> and government secrets that commit suicide. Its very strange but
JS> JG> it seems to happen very quick. One minute they are hot on the
JS> JG> trail of something big and the next minute they went insane and
JS> JG> commited suicide.
JS>
JS> The only two I can think of are Morris K. Jessup and James
JS> McDonald. Jessup I'm not sure about, but McDonald, I am
JS> assured, had some bad family problems. His suicide was no
JS> mystery. Under your scenario, why didn't Hynek take his own
JS> life long before brain cancer claimed him? And why doesn't
JS> Mr. Ed do the same?
JS>
JS>
JS> JG> From what I heard is that the "Premier Researcher was
JS> JG> approched by the FBI and was threaten to disclose this persons name.
JS>
JS> Jim, are there any circumstances under which you will NOT
JS> believe that same old chestnut time and time again? Even
JS> David Jones, who posted the original message about the
JS> supposed "informant", has admitted the whole thing was
JS> probably a hoax.
JS>
JS> Jim
JS>
Jim, I was just relaying what I heard about the person that
Wendelle had from Area 51 was going to disclose some information and
he was approched by the FBI. I didn't say it was fact.
When I say that I believe that the Meier case is real, it is my
on opinion and not to be accepted as fact. I am not the world
authority and the final say on these cases.
73'S ---JIM---
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From: John.Hicks@f29.n363.z1.FIDONET.ORG (John Hicks)
Subject: Crop circles
Date: 24 Dec 91 05:44:01 GMT
> "London, Oct 27 PA A leading scientist investigating crop circles now
> says that all but the simple circles are the work of hoaxers.
If he said "all," looks like he's got his work cut out for him supplying
supporting evidence for his statement regarding "all" of the complex formations.
jbh
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From: Don.Allen@f29.n363.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Don Allen)
Subject: Mysticism
Date: 24 Dec 91 08:07:06 GMT
* Replying to a message originally to All
MD> In reference to telepathic communication, Dr. Barbara Young
MD> wishes to
MD> correspond on the following subjects.
MD> 2. Remote viewing.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I'm interested in this but it's probably best if we move this
over to the General area.
Don
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