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Info-ParaNet Newsletters Volume I Number 510
Thursday, December 12th 1991
Today's Topics:
Mysterious Object
Re: Omni ONLINE
Omni Online
UFO BOOK ON COMPUTER
Ray Stanford
UFO Research (NSW)
Tasmanian Tiger
UFO Research in Australia & New Zealand
Re: Welcome back!
Mystery Object of 12/5
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From: Michael.Corbin@p0.f428.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Michael Corbin)
Subject: Mysterious Object
Date: 10 Dec 91 17:01:00 GMT
* Forwarded from "Fido UFO Echo"
* Originally from Bruce Fairbanks
* Originally dated 12-07-91 20:45
Here is a story I read in our local paper today (Sacramento Bee- Sacramento,CA):
UFO SLIPS BY EARTH,REMAINS A PUZZLE
By David L. Chandler Boston Globe BOSTON - The unidentified
object that hurtled past Earth before dawn on Thursday remains a mystery,
astronomers said Friday, and it apparently slipped by without them getting a
good look at it. A week ago astronomers had decided that the tiny object,
which passed slightly farther away from Earth than the moon's distance of 240,
000 miles, was probably an asteroid - a chunk of interplanetary rock probably
less than 30 feet across. But observations on Monday by European
astronomers working in Chile showed dramatic variations in brightness, which
suggest an irregularly shaped, tumbling object with great variations in its
surface reflectivity, much more so than expected for a natural object like an
asteroid, said astronomer Brian Marsden. Marsden said Friday that the
variation in brightness "means we are dealing with some very peculiar object. I
would say man-made. I think it would be hard to explain this kind of variation
with a natural object, even a small one."
But Marsden and others are still puzzling over what kind of
man-made object it is.
Marsden said two weeks ago that it was probably the leftover
Centaur rocket used in 1974 to launch a solar satellite called Helios.
But more precise calculations of the object's orbit, based on the
latest observations, show that, traced backward, it never quite meets
Earth as it should if it had been launched from Earth.
There is a possible explanation for that discrepancy, Marsden
said. Centaur rockets sometimes contain leftover hydrogen fuel after
they reach orbit, and this fuel could continue to leak out, perhaps
for years. This could propel the rocket in unpredictable directions.
During its closest approach to Earth on Thursday, the object was
too far south to be visible from anywhere in the Northern Hemisphere.
Astronomers at the European Southern Observatory in Chile tried to get
pictures of it shortly after its closest approach in order to get more
precise data on its exact path and to make further measurements of its
brightness varations.
But as of Friday, they were unable to find any sign of the object
in their pictures.
Because of the difficulty of the observation and the faintness of
the object, astronomers Richard West and Oliver Hainaut at the
observatory in the Chilean Andes continued to examine their images
carefully Friday.
These observations are essential to guarantee the success of a
planned radar observation of the object when it returns to visibility
in the Northern Hemisphere next week. A successful radar observation
"would clinch it" as to whether the object is natural or artificial,
Marsden said.
Because of the uncertain movements of a rocket leaking leftover
fuel, however, it may never be possible to identify it as a specific
rocket.
If it is artificial, but not a known rocket, that might explain
the astronomers' inability to locate it in their pictures, Marsden
joked.
"Maybe that's why they couldn't be found last night," he said.
"Maybe they landed."
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From: Michael.Schuyler@f201.n350.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Michael Schuyler)
Subject: Re: Omni ONLINE
Date: 11 Dec 91 04:12:00 GMT
In a message to Peggy Noonan <11-30-91 16:30> Jim Speiser wrote:
JS>
JS> How's about a mention of ParaNet somewhere in the AntiMatter column?
JS> I recall that there was a brief story done on Dale Goudie's old CUFON
JS> system, but that system went over like an 1890's airship. It may be
JS> time to update OMNI's readers on the state of online ufology.
Jim, CUFON is back up and running with a Seattle-area BBS with files only
and refuses ANY echo mail connection. (206) 776-0382 is the number. I've
talked with him on the phone a coupla times; rather, I listened to him on
the phone a coupla times. His main thing is to get Congress to open an
investigation.
--Michael
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From: Peggy.Noonan@p0.f150.n30163.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Peggy Noonan)
Subject: Omni Online
Date: 11 Dec 91 07:01:02 GMT
John, that was an excellent message. The best way for me to get
that info across is to quote you -- send your own words to them.
It's a clear and informative picture anyone can grasp. Thanks very
much!
==Peggy==
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From: Bill.Chalker.UFORA.Associate.NSW@f8.n1040.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Bill Chalker UFORA Associate NSW)
Subject: UFO BOOK ON COMPUTER
Date: 8 Dec 91 18:35:00 GMT
I thought all of you using Paranet would be very interested
in the "UFO Research in Australia and New Zealand" digital
book. It has over 90,000 words in more than 800 pages
(computer pages) covering over 300 topics, with full search
and print facility. It is IBM PC or compatible, (Hard disk)
EGA or VGA. It comes as compressed files on a single
standard DS DD floppy disk, which is uncompressed onto your
hard disk.
It is a package produced by a professional publisher (Dynamo
House Pty. Ltd., 38a Murphy Street, Richmond, Victoria, 3121,
AUSTRALIA. I have been looking at a review copy. I am
advised by the publishers that they have just taken receipt
of the first batch and distribution should begin soon. I'm
not sure of distribution methods at this stage. The price
is, I understand $29.95 Australian dollars. For all of you
overseas we will see what can be arranged.
First off this is admittedly a biased review.
I am a UFORA associate and much of my own material appears
in the book. However the book is a collection of material
published in the UFO Research Australian Newsletter (UFORAN)
with some updated material added.
Even though I am very familiar with all this material, I
found the search facility would make this book a real asset
to any researcher and to anybody who is interested in
getting reliable information on the UFO situation in
Australia and New Zealand.
The emphasis in the book is on case material and it is
certainly rich in that.
I will not give a full a full listing here of its contents
(it would take too long!) but here are some highlights:
Historical (pre 1947) reports from Australia & New Zealand
(NZ), which includes the 1868 Birmingham "UFO vision" and
the 1909 wave.
The Maatsuyker Island reports (a remote lighthouse locality
off Tasmania which has been the focus of some fascinating
reports).
The Rosedale UFO landing case of 1980, which must be one of
Australia's most significant physical trace cases, and
certainly is not an example of a Meaden "plasma vortex" as
suggested by Jenny Randles & Paul Fuller in their CROP
CIRCLES book.
The BOYUP BROOK beam/car control case.
A marvelous display of apparent UFO technology in an
extraordinary daylight event in a close encounter in
suburban Sydney in 1970. The locality is Whalan. It is this
sort of case that makes even the most hardened "its all in
the mind" camp think twice.
Entity cases from Australia & NZ.
Photographic evidence specifically 2 movie footages of
particular importance.
Sightings by aircraft pilots.
Radar visual events.
Vehicle interference cases including the extraordinary and
classic "bent headlight beam" case from Burkes Flat in 1966.
The Mundrabilla case in depth.
Australian "interrupted journeys" (time loss cases)
An extraordinary detailed account of possible telepathic
contact in an Australian desert encounter.
Australian abduction cases.
RAAF UFO files (i.e. our Air Force files) revealed in depth.
In otherwords here we have a huge amount of data for you
thirsty UFO researchers and interested parties.
You will have a great time just reading and even better you
have a great facility for file searching and printing. I
have it up on my computer and it sure beats the time waster
of searching through hard copy.
I certainly have no reservations in recommending this UFO
book on computer to you all. It gives you an extraordinary
and reliable (the last point is very important these days!)
look at the UFO mystery as seen from the microcosm of
Australia & NZ.
It also comes with a 12 page illustration file booklet
referenced to the computer text, much of it in colour.
This well worth the money. You will also be helping a
professional UFO research outfit at the same time, namely
UFORA which needs no introduction to Paranet users.
The package is not totally free of errors -a few slipped
through. eg. On the box cover "John Johnston, Joan Knapman"
should read "John Knapman, Joan Johnston" ) sadly passed
away this year. The booklet lists "UFO's and the Royal
UFO's Air Force" which will be amusing for the Royal
Australian Air Force. Also it is not clear from the text
that Bruce Harding was the original investigator and writer
in the 1944 Christchurch NZ case - a wonderful CE3 event.
However these gaffs overall do not take away from an
excellent product.
GET OUT THERE AND BUY IT. YOU WON'T REGRET IT.
Best regards from Bill Chalker.
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From: Bill.Chalker.UFORA.Associate.NSW@f8.n1040.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Bill Chalker UFORA Associate NSW)
Subject: Ray Stanford
Date: 8 Dec 91 18:50:00 GMT
A number of years ago Ray Stanford's PSI group announced it
had some UFO spectra for which they were seeking funds to
study. Ray's group broke up. I did bump into him at
the Washington MUFON conference in 1987, but unfortunately
there was only time for a hello and little else.
Now Ray has had an extremely varied career. I was a member
for a while of the AUM group, which published his "Source"
material - ahead of his time given the current in vogue
channelling craze. But it was Ray's PSI activities that
interested me the most.
I gather Ray is now resident in Washington DC area.
The reason I'm asking is that I have a University associate
here in Australia with a specific interest in UFO spectra
and who would be willing to examine credible evidence for
UFO spectra.
Now, I cant believe or hope that the spectra has not been
examined by now by some hopefully responsible crowd in the
US but I have not heard anything about it. Besides this
side of it I would like to renew contact with Ray.
Thanks in advance for anyone who can help.
I saw recently ghe had helped Bob Oechsler in
Washington/Maryland investigations!!!
Regards, Bill Chalker.
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From: Bill.Chalker.UFORA.Associate.NSW@f8.n1040.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Bill Chalker UFORA Associate NSW)
Subject: UFO Research (NSW)
Date: 8 Dec 91 19:21:00 GMT
I have been associated with UFO Research (NSW) since 1977
when I helped form it from the UFO Investigation Centre
(UFOIC). During the latter part of the 1980s & up to now I
have kept it going as its director on an intentionally low
profile and informal networking basis, mainly because of the
lack of keen workers and my distaste for UFO group politics.
During that time I have preferred to network my group and my
own research findings through other wider networking
facilities such as the Australian Centre for UFO Studies
(ACUFOS) and UFORA, rather than publish my own newsletter.
I found this to be a good working arrangement and a great
deal of useful information was circulated this way.
Unfortunately UFO politics have taken a rather negative turn
lately with a new style of ACUFOS which seems to prefer to
promote the claims of Bieleck, Lear, Cooper etc. I have
made my views clear to the current ACUFOS management (Martin
Gottschall) and have completely dissociated myself from its
activities.
Perhaps related to this, the new ACUFOS set about trying
to get a UFO group (of its persausion) going in New South
Wales (NSW). Although I do not agree with much of what the
new ACUFOS and UFO Research (Queensland) are doing, this is
a democracy and new breakthroughs are possible through all
sorts of avenues, no matter how bizarre. So I was not
concerned about a new group in NSW - plenty of room for
that.
However I did not expect this new group, which had its
inargural meeting in November, 1991, to take my group name!
This is what they have done and they have registered it as a
business name, something I found unnecessary to do since
1977! This leaves me with not much room to move re group
names. A name change has been forced on my informal NSW
network group.
This message is designed to alert you to these confusing and
rather disappointing developments.
As of November, 1991, my UFO Research (NSW) group (formerly
known as UFOIC), will be known as the UFO Investigation
Centre (UFOIC), the ORIGINAL UFO RESEARCH (NSW).
Please understand that I have nothing what so ever to do
with the new UFO Research (NSW). My UFOR(NSW) activities
span 1977 to 1991 and my UFOIC involvement goes back to
1969. UFOIC itself goes back to 1955, when it was reformed
from the original Australian group AFSB then run by Edgar
Jarrold.
Some of the principles of the NEW UFO Research (NSW) group
are Bryan Dickeson, Moira McGhee and Paul Sowiak-Rudej. I
repeat I have no connect with this group and they have no
connection with my UFOR(NSW) (1977-91) activities, other
than brief and limited involvement from some of their
members. They did not maintain any involvement since the
early 80s.
I should point out that my group has close ties with the
national network UFORA.
I can be contacted via this folder, through my box address:
P.O. Box W42, West Pennant Hills, NSW, 2125, AUSTRALIA
or on voice line: Sydney (02) 484 4680.
Regards from Bill Chalker.
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From: Pony.Godic@f7.n1040.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Pony Godic)
Subject: Tasmanian Tiger
Date: 11 Dec 91 05:46:00 GMT
The following is recorded purely for your interest. It more than
likely is mundane in nature. However, a discussion with Bill Chalker
in which Bill said the unusual tail carriage of the creature I saw is
very typical of Tasmanian Tigers prompts me to relate the following
just in case I did in fact see something unusual: On November 13,
1991, my husband Vladimir and I left Adelaide in South Australia and
spent 5 days in transit to Cairns in Far North Queensland where we
now live. We have literally moved from one end of Australia to the
other. On the first day we were travelling from late afternoon
through to around midnight on the particularly desolate stretch of
highway between Broken Hill and a little service station come truck
stop area called Neferti. This road runs through thick, flat
scrubland. The whole area is infested with kangaroos and wallabies.
The road was like a slaughterhouse with kangaroo carcases every few
hundred metres or so, the victims of mostly trucks. Anyway, we were
literally on the edge of our seats because there were kangaroos and
wallabies grazing along the side of the road in enormous numbers.
They're pretty but not very bright and you never know which way
they're going to jump, so you have to slow right down when they're at
the edge of the road. Consequently we were travelling between 40-60
km/h with our eyes constantly scanning for the closer of these
creatures. Being grey they were inclined to blend with the scrub,
especially in poor light. Anyway, during the late afternoon mostly
crows and eagles were eating at the dead kangaroos on the road. In
the night feral cats and other small creatures were feeding on them.
During dusk we approached a kangaroo carcass that had just one
creature eating at it. As we drove up, the creature looked up, saw
us, decided to get of the road, sort of trotted, sort of sauntered to
the side of the road, right to left, and then stood on the side of
the road, its nose pointing towards the scrub, as it waited patiently
for us to pass. As it stood there I particularly noticed its tail.
It was extremely long and held dead level and straight with the back.
I figure all told I saw the creature for a full 8 seconds or more.
First I was taken with the way it moved, it was sort of cat like in
that it was stealthy, but it wasn't slinky like a cat. It was sort
of dog like in that it trotted, but it wasn't the jarring movement
that one sees in a dog. On the side of the road, I got a good long
look at the creature. As stated I was particularly taken with its
tail, but I'll start at the other end. It had a head like a dog's,
except the ears were either small and rounded like a cat's or else
they hung over at the tips. It had a medium sized dark eye. Its
mouth was open but it wasn't panting so I couldn't see its tongue.
Its head carriage was like a dog's although a little lower. Its neck
was about as long as a dog's. It had noticeable withers and a rib
cage but they were not pronounced. Its legs were rather strong and
slender looking. Even though its body was so long, the legs did not
look short or out of proportion. The animal was about as tall as a
cattle dog, but easily twice as long in body length. Its tail was
really long, as long as the body, maybe as long as the body and head
combined. I was particularly taken with it not only because it was
so long and held in such a peculiar way, but because it was round and
tapered down to a rounded end. Starting on the shoulder and going
almost as far as the end of the rib cage were stripes, I estimate
around 6. They were frayed at the edges and appeared about 3
centimetres wide. They were slightly bowed like so (. They were
slate grey i.e. they weren't dark enough to call black and not light
enough to call grey. The rest of the creature was a dun or camel
colour. While I was watching this I thought it must be a bandicoot,
then, noticing the stripes I wondered if it could be a Tasmanian
Tiger. I then replayed from memory the short piece of news footage
of the last Tasmanian Tiger which, as I recall was in Taronga Park
Zoo in the 1930s. This poor creature was pacing up and down. It had
a longer snout than the creature I saw. It had a more pronounced
wither and deeper chest cage. I think it was shorter in body length
and overall its lines were chunkier and thicker than the animal I
saw. Having made this comparison I then decided that I must be
looking at a bandicoot. It was only after that it occurred to me
that bandicoot are much smaller creatures, although I'm no expert and
could very well be wrong on this point. Anyway, I'd obviously have
to see the footage on that last Tasmanian Tiger again to decide how
valid my comparison was. I don't recall its tail or ears at all, and
am unclear on its stripes. Anyway, the above is included only for
interest, I'm definitely not claiming to have seen a Tasmanian Tiger,
but I may have seen something unusual.
Pony Godic, UFORA Secretary.
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From: Pony.Godic@f7.n1040.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Pony Godic)
Subject: UFO Research in Australia & New Zealand
Date: 11 Dec 91 06:00:00 GMT
"UFO Research in Australia & New Zealand" a compilation of material,
dealing with the small residue of unexplained cases, has been
released. The book was compiled by UFO Research Australia. Pony
Godic typed the manuscript. She and husband Vladimir were involved
in numerous proof readings as well as approaching publishers. The
book contains material published in the "UFO Research Australia
Newsletter" and all contributors have agreed that any and all profits
will be put back into the magazine in an effort to increase its
frequency. We are especially pleased that so many good Australian
researchers have had their work showcased in the book and
congratulate them all in their own right and express our pleasure
that rational sane research is getting in the spotlight for a change.
The book is on computer disk with accompanying booklet of photos and
diagrams. It was released with 2 other titles and this is the first
time that digital books have been published in Australia. Our
publisher believed in the book and didn't want any changes. However,
in the middle of a recession he found it hard to publish in hardcopy
and so requested permission to do the book digitally. For further
information see Bill Chalker's review.
Pony Godic, UFORA Secretary.
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From: Vladimir.Godic@f7.n1040.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Vladimir Godic)
Subject: Re: Welcome back!
Date: 12 Dec 91 05:48:00 GMT
> Glad to see you are enjoying the weather there. Ours isn't too
> bad, either. When I was in Greece in the summertime, I'd always
> meet Aussies trying to get away from the winters!
Hi Linda,
Well there will be no more winter for us. If we go visiting friends
and relatives, down in Adelaide, it will be during their summer.
> In that part of Australia where you are now, is there enough
> farming and growing of grains to get some crop circles? We're
> all waiting to see what develops in your neck of the woods!
No, there is no farming and growing of grains in Far North Queensland.
They only grow sugar cane as well as bananas and tropical fruit. I don't
remember of any reports of circles seen on sugar cane fields.
However, there was famous Tully (not far from Cairns) report, back in
60s, where an object left a large circle on reeds in a swamp.
> Keep your eyes on the skies,
I sure will. As a matter of fact, as soon as we've settled down here,
we'll be helping our associate - UFO Research Far North QLD - with their
reports and investigations. We also intend to go for night drives in
case we can see something ourselves.
Vlad
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From: kether.webo.dg.com!tom
Subject: Mystery Object of 12/5
Date: 11 Dec 91 18:33:12 GMT
From: tom@kether.webo.dg.com (Tom Sullivan)
I've seen nothing on the net regarding this, but I found this in the
Globe:
Without permission from the Boston Globe, 12/7, page 13:
Mystery object eludes astronomers
By David L. Chandler, Globe Staff
The unidentified object that hurtled past Earth before dawn on
Thursday remains a mystery, astronomers said yesterday, and it
apparently slipped by without them getting a good look.
A week ago, astronomers had decided that the tiny object,
which passed slightly farther away from Earth than the moon's distance
of 240,000 miles, was probably an asteroid -- a chunk of
interplanetary rock probably less than 30 feet across [BUT, read on!].
But observations on Monday by European astronomers working in
Chile showed dramatic variations in brightness which suggest an
irregularly shaped, tumbling object with great variations in its
surface reflectivity, much more so than expected for a natural object
like an asteroid, said Brian Marsden, an astronomer.
Marsden, director of the Cambridge-based International
Astronomical Union's Bureau for Astronomical Telegrams and Minor
Planet Center, said yesterday that the variation in brightness 'means
we are dealing with some very peculiar object. I would say man-made.
I think it wold be hard to explain this kind of variation with a
natural object, even a small one.'
But Marsden and others are still puzzling over what kind of
man-made object it is.
Marsden said two weeks ago that it was probably the leftover
Centaur rocket used in 1974 to launch a sun-observing satellite called
Helios. But more precise calculations of the object's orbit, based on
the latest observations, show that, traced backwards, it never quite
meets Earth, as it should if it had been launched from Earth.
There is a possible explaination for that descrepancy, Marsden
said: Centaur rockets sometimes contain leftover hydrogen fuel after
they reach orbit, and this fuel could continue to leak out, perhaps
for years. This could propel the rocket in unpredictable directions,
like air escaping from a balloon that send it careening aound a room.
During its closest approach to Earth on Thursday, the object
was too far south to be visible from anywhere in the northern
hemisphere. Astronomers at the European Southern Observatory in Chile
tried to get pictures of it shortly after its closest approach in
order to get more precise data on its exact path and to make further
measurements of its brightness variations.
But as of yesterday, they were unable to find any sign of the
object in their pictures.
Because of the difficulty of the observation and the faintness
of the object, astronomers Richard West and Oliver Hainaut at the
observatory in the Chilean Andes continued to examine their images
carefully yesterday.
These observations are essential to guarantee the success of a
planned radar observation of the object when it returns to visibility
in the northern hemisphere next week. A successful radar observations
'would clinch it' as to whether the object is natural or artificial,
Marsden said.
'I was hoping it would be natural,' said Marsden, because that
would make it a very unusual type of asteroid and the smallest ever
detected, and therefore interesting to astronomers. But because of
the brightness changes seen this week, he is now '90 percent sure'
that it is artificial.
Because of the uncertain movements of a rocket leaking
leftover fuel, however, it may never be possible to identify it as a
specific rocket.
If it is artificial but not any known rocket, that might
explain the astronomers' inability to locate it in their pictures,
Marsden joked.
'Maybe that's why they couldn't be found last night,' he said.
'Maybe they landed.'
Tom
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