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Info-ParaNet Newsletters Volume 1 Number 485
Info-ParaNet Newsletters Volume I Number 485
Sunday, October 6th 1991
Today's Topics:
Re: Upcoming Shows
Re: BeckleyCon
Re: Dave and Doug - The Latest
Re: Uncritical Thinking About The Lazar Material
Richard Hoagland's Face On Mars
Re: VISIT / NASA / CONSPIRACIES
Dr. Fredrick Bell
Bentwater,Uk On Unsolved Mysteries
Dr. Fredrick Bell
Re: Frederik Bell
Re: Ufology Quiz #2
Re: Tesla & Hungarian
Re: Dave and Doug - The Latest
Upcoming Shows
Dave and Doug - The Latest
Implants
Bentwaters
Goodies
RAAF documents
Visit / Nasa / Conspiracies
Re: Visit / Nasa / Conspiracies
Dr. Fredrick Bell
Bentwater,Uk On Unsolved Mysteries
Hudson Valley Messages
Telephone
Micap
KOA Weird Night 10/11&31
Bentwater,Uk On Unsolved Mysteries
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From: Kay.Mclaughlin@p0.f134.n109.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Kay Mclaughlin)
Subject: Re: Upcoming Shows
Date: 2 Oct 91 05:47:08 GMT
JS> In a message to Jim Speiser <09-23-91 20:24> Kay Mclaughlin wrote:
KM> Why? ..... I didn't get that impression.
KM>
KM> Regards,
KM> Kay
JS>
JS> Well, I'd have to run it again, but I thought he made some pretty dry
JS> remarks to both sides. Especially when Stan Friedman brought up the
JS> issue of his father's UFO sighting. He seemed especially testy at that
JS> point.
JS> Jim
I guess it's all in a persons point of view, my take on it was that the
original report was in the "National Enquirer" and Ron wanted to firmly
establish that.
As far as I know everyone from Oprah to Tom Selleck HATES the tabloids,
and I felt Ron was trying to make a point as far as the tabloids were
concerned.
He made a point of saying that if his father had seen a "UFO" he would
of been the first one that would have been told.
Implying to me that he had an interest in the subject, and if his father
HAD seen one he would have informed the one family member who WAS
interested.
As I said, that was just my impression.
Regards,
Kay
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From: Kay.Mclaughlin@p0.f134.n109.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Kay Mclaughlin)
Subject: Re: BeckleyCon
Date: 2 Oct 91 06:04:12 GMT
LB> Hi Kay,
LB>
LB> It would be my pleasure to have you stay with me and go to the
LB> BeckleyCon. As Jim Speiser says, "I wouldn't miss one for the world!"
LB> Your origin line doesnn't give any clues as to your location: where
LB> do you hail from?
LB> Linda
LB>
I am presently living in Chantilly, VA (Fairfax County) about 15 miles
west of Washington D.C. I'm not a native, I was born in Warren, OH 1955;
moved to Miami, FL 1969; moved to Boston, MA 1973; relocated here two
years ago in 1989.
I did attend a few "Whole Earth Expo" type things when I lived in Bean
Town, but doesn't sound like it could touch the "Entertainment Level"
that "BeckleyCon" provides.
My husband is from Pensacola, and last June his siser got married, the
reception was at (yep, you guessed it!) the Holiday Inn in Gulf Breeze.
We spent two nights there before moving to the Parents house on Bayou
Grande after the party, wher we stayed for a week.
I dragged a lawn chair out to the beach (?) and spent the late evening
cooling my heels, drinking wine and star (?) gazing, saw no red lights!
Ah well... Guess I should have talked them into having the wedding THIS
month!
Type at cha soon,
Kay
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From: Kay.Mclaughlin@p0.f134.n109.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Kay Mclaughlin)
Subject: Re: Dave and Doug - The Latest
Date: 2 Oct 91 06:15:11 GMT
CM> Personally, I wish that the UFO groups of the USAF, RAF, RCAF, RAAF,
CM> and the (former) Soviet Air Defense Command could all sit down with
CM> the Belgian Air Defense Command and get knee-walking drunk together.
CM> Wouldn't it be wonderful if they just commiserated for 12 hours and
CM> then decided to tell the truth???
CM> In vino veritas,
CM> Clark
Clark,
I LOVE it! True, this is how the interesting information gets passed around.
In potato passed out,
Kay
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From: Kay.Mclaughlin@p0.f134.n109.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Kay Mclaughlin)
Subject: Re: Uncritical Thinking About The Lazar Material
Date: 2 Oct 91 06:23:36 GMT
MC> Yeah, but does it explain anything?
Well, OH I don't know....... Cash/Lundrum?
MC> I better quit before I lose all sense of reality.
MC>
MC> Hey - maybe this is how the National Enquirer comes up with their
MC> stuff :-)
It's a dirty job, but someone has to do it!
Kay
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From: Don.Ecker@p0.f3.n1012.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Don Ecker)
Subject: Richard Hoagland's Face On Mars
Date: 4 Oct 91 07:26:00 GMT
In a message about Hoagland and his Mars noise, we also received the
following.
> Mars has two carbon moons. The planet Mars does not contain this carbon. The
> moons appear to be asteriods that the Martians, using technology that is
> available to us today, moved into Martian orbit and, apparently, to mine.
> The two moons are in perfect circular orbits around Mars. Phobos is spiraling
> inward toward Mars. The density of Phobos is 1.95 which means that 30% is
> missing, or hollowed out, or mined. Richard believes that the Soviets covered
> up the truth of this by saying that it was a UFO that grabbed up their
> spacecraft and by so doing, knew that the mainstream press would not touch
> the story. The Russians probably have close up photos of extraterrestrial
>artifacts (a Martain monkey wrench?) and Marina Popovich went around the world
> and spread false rumors to put the nail in the coffin in order to cover-up
> the Truth. The Phobos orbit is 20 Km off true circular, due to it's decaying
> orbit. If it were circular to begin with, it would have taken 217,000 years
If Hoagland would stop and take a breath and do some RESEARCH, and if he had
called me, then he would know that:
First, Dr. Marina Popovich DID NOT MENTION THE PHOBOS INCIDENT IN ANY OF HER
TALKS. This past spring, while covering an International UFO conf. in Tuscon,
I met Popovich while covering the event for UFO Magazine. I interviewed her
over a two day period, and happen to ask Popovich about rumors I heard about
the Phobos probe from a mentor of Hoaglands, Z. Sitchen. Sitchen wrote about
the incident in his book Genesis Revisited.
Marina Popovich was shocked, yes I did say shocked, that we in the west knew
something about this. And as an aside, what is Dickies problem with the idea
that maybe, notice I did say maybe, something could be out there now? He, with
his meglomanic attitude, blew it, yes I did say blew it, with Chuck Harder on
his For The People program, out of Whitesprings, Fl. a few weeks ago when he
attacked Harder on the air over the asteroid story that Harder had spoken
about during my guest appearence on his program. Furthermore, Hoagland did
something I consider unforgivable in accusing Popovich of being a KGB plant
here to spread disinfo on the Mars thing.
What is his proof? If we are going to start calling names, or better yet use
his thinking, then I or you or anyone could say the same damn thing about
Hoagland and Earl Torun. Torun does work for the Defense Mapping Agency, my
heavan, must be CIA, DIA, FBI, NSA, NRO, etc. Take your pick. Hoagland is
fond of making grand pronouncements on Mars, Egypt, the Pyramids, and now is
claiming he deciphered the crop circles and they relate to the FACE.
Oh**please spare me, just how did he accomplish this? At any rate, I will be
answering him on the Harder program in reference to Popovich. I arranged her
appearance on Hard Copy, I broke the probe story with her, and last but not
least, when she returned to the States in June she brought the photo back here
that Phobos II took of the "object". To run in UFO Magazine after we have
some anaylis run on it.
Don Ecker
UFO Magazine
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From: Jim.Speiser@f100.n1010.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Jim Speiser)
Subject: Re: VISIT / NASA / CONSPIRACIES
Date: 4 Oct 91 06:21:00 GMT
In a message to All <10-03-91 20:52> Steve Beatty wrote:
SB> My focus is correlating live-TV testimony from an alleged abductee
SB> that she was "regressed...a dozen times...by Dr. Richard Haines,
SB> head of NASA Special Projects..." - it appeared last week on the
Only comment I can make is that I don't believe Dick Haines was EVER head of
NASA Special Projects, I think he was an environmental engineer.
Jim
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From: Clark.Matthews@f428.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Clark Matthews)
Subject: Dr. Fredrick Bell
Date: 4 Oct 91 09:24:00 GMT
Andre Eichner sent me a message via netmail that clarifies his
interest in Dr. Frederick Bell. He's looking for commentary &
reaction from the US, since Bell's an American.
Andre's English is pretty good, but he sent his full descripton
of Bell's claims & videotapes to me in German and asked me to
translate. Here it is in English:
(400) Sun 29 Sep 91 18:24 Rcvd: Tue 1 Oct 10:00
By: Andre Eichner, FidoNet Berlin *HST* (2:245/10)
To: Clark Matthews
Re: WRONG#.ZIP
St: Pvt Rcvd
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Hello Clark!
[stuff cut]
I'll write the following text in german, because I don't know some english
words in the text.
[translation]
I've seen a video of Dr. Fred Bell in which he speaks about the
technology of interplanetary spacecraft from the Pleides. He
claims that he's been there himself. Among other things, he
describes a procedure for hormonal alteration that is required
for people [to survive] who travel at faster-than-light speeds.
This procedure [of hormonal "healing"] described by Bell
resembles an ancient magical proceeding: "Healers" can even
treat people unknown to them by using a photograph of the person
and directing their healing energy at it. [Tr. Note: Basically
a system of sympathetic magic -- fetishism, in other words --
like that practiced by most shamanist religions as well as
ancient and modern sorcerers, "Magikians", etc. -- C.M.]
Bell describes a similar procedure [in the tape] from the
Pleides, with which he and his co-travelers "removed" themselves
from the Earth to the Pleides in less than 7 hours. [Tr. Note:
The wording here is interesting; he's not talking about physical
travel to the Pleides, he's talking of a "removal" to the
Pleides, like an astral projection or OOBE-type experience. --
C.M.]
Bell says that the USA and the so-called Grey aliens work
together and intend to ignite Jupiter and use it as a second Sun.
[Andre adds that whatever this may mean, he has it from a second
source in Gulf Breeze, FL -- C.M.] Moreover, Bell claims the
Grey aliens have concluded a treaty with the U.S., agreeing to an
exchange of weapons technology from the aliens for a certain
[implied: *large*] number of humans for genetic research.
Andre would be happy to hear comments, since Bell's an American.
---[translation ends]----------------------------------------------
Here's the original text:
Ich habe ein Video von Dr. Fred Bell gesehen, indem er ber die Technologie
interplanetarischer Raumschiffe von den Plejaden spricht. Er behauptet, selbst
dort gewesen zu sein. Er spricht unter anderem ueber eine, fr den Menschen
ntige Hormonumstellung fr berlichtgeschwindigkeit. Das Verfahren, was er
dort erklrt hnelt einem alten Magischen Verfahren: Heiler knnen eine ihnen
unbekannte Person heilen, indem sie ihr Photoals Zielvorgabe fr ihre
Heilungsenergie verwenden. Fred Bell erklrt ein hnliches Verfahren von den
Plejaden, mit dem sie in weniger als 7 Stunden (seven hours!) die Entfernung
Erde ->Plejaden zurcklegen.
F.Bell sagt, das die USA mit den sog. GRAUEN (was auch immer das sein mag, ich
habe da noch eine andere Quelle: Eine Sendung von Gulf Breeze, in der die
Grauen ebenfalls genannt werden) zusammenarbeiten und vorhaben, den Jupiter
anzuznden um eine 2. Sonne entstehen zu lassen. Sie haben mit den Grauen ein
Abkommen getroffen, das sie den USA Waffentechnologie geben und dafr eine
bestimmte Menge Menschen fr Genetische Versuche bekommen.
Ich wrde mich freuen, Deinen Kommentar dazu zu hhren. brigends ist Bell
selbst Amerikaner.
cheers
Andre
PS: Du kannst das ja bersetzen und in INFO.PARANET setzen.
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From: Don.Sudduth@p0.f150.n30163.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Don Sudduth)
Subject: Bentwater,Uk On Unsolved Mysteries
Date: 4 Oct 91 13:40:00 GMT
> > "Wallace and the men with him walked around the object and noticed an
> > interesting effect. Their own shadows were cast onto the object,
> > probably by the bright "light-alls" in the field. Not only did their
> > shadows bend upwards at the head, but as they walked and the stopped,
> > the shadows would appear to advance one pace more and then stop."
> > -Clear Intent by Lawrence Fawcett and Barry Greenwood
> > page 216 about the Rendlesham Forest case.
>
>OK, gotcha. Art Wallace, by the way, is Larry Warren. Somehow
>the observation doesn't surprise me, coming from him.
>
>Jim
I must be missing something. Why doesn't it suprise you coming from
him??????? I don't get it.
Don Sudduth
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From: Don.Sudduth@p0.f150.n30163.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Don Sudduth)
Subject: Dr. Fredrick Bell
Date: 4 Oct 91 13:49:00 GMT
Dr. Bell may sincerely beleive what he says. However, when are
people going to give up on the Pleiadians? The whole thing is the
biggest crock of BS in UFology!! (Of course, you can pay $1000 a
volume for the Message from Pleiades books that have a bunch of very
fuzzy photographs).
I'm sorry Clark. This is not directed at you.
Mad about the Pleiadian hoax,
-Don Sudduth
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From: Clark.Matthews@f816.n107.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Clark Matthews)
Subject: Re: Frederik Bell
Date: 4 Oct 91 12:09:00 GMT
JS> > Howdy, Andre! Wie geht's Ihnen? Hoffentlich wird der Berliner Luft ein
JS> > bisschen reiner?
Nein, nein, nein! Das ist einen Fliegenden Berliner.
Let's get our confections straight! Maybe you're thinking of John Kennedy's
famous gaffe at the Berlin Wall? "Ich bin ein Berliner!" "I'm a
cream-covered jellyroll!"
[That's what the wife said ... well, everyone else, anyway. nyuk, nyuk,
nyuk]
Best,
Clark
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From: Clark.Matthews@f816.n107.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Clark Matthews)
Subject: Re: Ufology Quiz #2
Date: 4 Oct 91 12:13:00 GMT
LB>You're a genius! Das ist gut! And you are CORRECT! It
Natuerlich, mein Schatz. Aber ein Wunderkind? Glaube nicht -- vielleicht
ein Unterwunderkind?
Actually I get Madame Blavatsky to write this stuff for me.
[Leesen to dem, dey arrrre de children ....]
Clark
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From: Clark.Matthews@f816.n107.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Clark Matthews)
Subject: Re: Tesla & Hungarian
Date: 4 Oct 91 12:26:00 GMT
LB>dinosaur
LB>egg. Also something very rare: dinosaaur lips!
Dinosaur eggs: Diplodocus -- $150
Sauropod -- 225 (we choose)
-- 325 (select group)
Tyrannosaur - 450 (occasional stock)
125 (uncandled! buy at your own risk!!)
Onyx Egg Cups Big -- 35
Bigger -- 50
Floor Model -- 75
Dinosaur Lips: Special Order Only -- State Preference
Removed by laser -- shipped in dry ice for freshness
Allow 2 weeks for shipment
(Delivered direct from the Devonian to U, through your bedroom window by
quiet little grey critters!)
Add 5% for shipping and applicable local tax.
10% extra west of Gondwanaland.
Best,
Clark
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From: Clark.Matthews@f816.n107.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Clark Matthews)
Subject: Re: Dave and Doug - The Latest
Date: 4 Oct 91 12:28:00 GMT
KM>I LOVE it! True, this is how the interesting information
KM>gets passed around.
KM>
KM>In potato passed out,
KM>Kay
hehehehehe. This spud's for you!
Cheers,
Clark
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From: Jim.Speiser@f100.n1010.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Jim Speiser)
Subject: Upcoming Shows
Date: 4 Oct 91 15:45:00 GMT
> I guess it's all in a persons point of view, my take on it was that the
> original report was in the "National Enquirer" and Ron wanted to firmly
> establish that.
> As far as I know everyone from Oprah to Tom Selleck HATES the tabloids,
> and I felt Ron was trying to make a point as far as the tabloids were
> concerned.
> He made a point of saying that if his father had seen a "UFO" he would
> of been the first one that would have been told.
> Implying to me that he had an interest in the subject, and if his father
> HAD seen one he would have informed the one family member who WAS
> interested.
> As I said, that was just my impression.
You could be right, I just detected a few notes of condescension.
I *STILL* want to know what that video was at the beginning of the first part,
though!
Jim
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From: Jim.Speiser@f100.n1010.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Jim Speiser)
Subject: Dave and Doug - The Latest
Date: 4 Oct 91 15:48:00 GMT
> In potato passed out,
^^ ^^^^^^ ^^^^^^ ^^^
"In spudus vaporum"?
Jim
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From: Keith.Basterfield@f12.n1040.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Keith Basterfield)
Subject: Implants
Date: 3 Oct 91 02:44:00 GMT
To:Sheldon Wernikoff
Thanks for your latest reply. If you will post an address for me I
will airmail you a copy of the Pritchard paper, as I understand the
Treat 2 proceedings still have not been released.
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From: Keith.Basterfield@f12.n1040.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Keith Basterfield)
Subject: Bentwaters
Date: 3 Oct 91 02:45:00 GMT
Thanks for your offer of further info on this. Jenny Randles was over
here in Australia last month and she stated that new evidence had
suggested there was more to Bentwaters than she had previously
believed. I await details with interest.
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From: Keith.Basterfield@f12.n1040.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Keith Basterfield)
Subject: Goodies
Date: 3 Oct 91 02:47:00 GMT
Thanks for your airmail despatch. I will await its receipt with
interest.
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From: Keith.Basterfield@f12.n1040.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Keith Basterfield)
Subject: RAAF documents
Date: 3 Oct 91 02:48:00 GMT
Clark, I never found out if you received those Australian RAAF
documents I sent over some months ago. Could you please advise if they
turned up your end, thanks?
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From: Michael.Corbin@p0.f428.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Michael Corbin)
Subject: Visit / Nasa / Conspiracies
Date: 5 Oct 91 20:40:00 GMT
> Again VISIT is *not* a NASA project. As I previously pointed out,
> anyone who wants to find out about project visit should try to get a
> copy of the 1980 MUFON Symposium Proceedings and they can read all about
> it. In fact VISIT was the host group for the 1980 MUFON Symposium in
> Clear Lake, Texas. To believe that VISIT is part of NASA is to believe
> that NASA hosted the 1980 MUFON Symposium. Someone better tell Oberg
> about this! :-)
I am checking on this John. According to a NASA source that I have, VISIT may
have been a real NASA project. He is checking on this for me and will let me
know. He was familiar with the term and indicated that he had heard something
about it a while back.
I will post the results.
Mike
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From: Michael.Corbin@p0.f428.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Michael Corbin)
Subject: Re: Visit / Nasa / Conspiracies
Date: 5 Oct 91 20:44:00 GMT
> Only comment I can make is that I don't believe Dick Haines was EVER
> head of NASA Special Projects, I think he was an environmental engineer.
According to Jerry Clark's UFOs in the 1980s, I quote regarding Haines,
"Between 1964 and 1988 he worked in varying capacities as a scientist
employed at the NASA-Ames Research Center at Moffett Field in California.
When he retired from government service in 1988, he was chief of the Space
Human Factors Office at NASA-Ames. Currently he is a research scientist for
the Research Institute for Advanced Computer Science, at Ames Research
Center." It is also noted that he has a Ph.D. in experimental psychology and
physiology.
Jim, would you call him and clarify what this Space Human Factors Office is
and about this other business?
Thanks,
Mike
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From: John.Burke@f9.n1012.z9.FIDONET.ORG (John Burke)
Subject: Dr. Fredrick Bell
Date: 6 Oct 91 01:18:00 GMT
Hi Clark!
I saw an ad for some conference in California which contained the
assertion that Fred Bell claims to be a nuclear physicist.
Curiously, in the book _The Fellowship_ by Brad Steiger (one of
the WORST books I've ever read, BTW) which is written largely
about Fred Bell, he is described as a Chiropractor who used to
walk around with a pyramid on his head. So how does one make the
transition from Chiropractor to nuclear physicist? Only Semjase
knows for sure! :-)
-- John
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From: Jim.Speiser@f100.n1010.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Jim Speiser)
Subject: Bentwater,Uk On Unsolved Mysteries
Date: 5 Oct 91 18:42:00 GMT
>>
>>OK, gotcha. Art Wallace, by the way, is Larry Warren. Somehow
>>the observation doesn't surprise me, coming from him.
>>
>>Jim
>
> I must be missing something. Why doesn't it suprise you coming from
> him??????? I don't get it.
>
Larry is a very nice, very charming man, who seems as credible as your Aunt
Clara, and yet what he says is not only incredible, no one who has checked into
his story has been able to verify a single thing he says. Col. Halt claims that
Warren wasn't even present at the time of the sightings! And Warren's story is
very inconsistent between tellings. Just about a month ago, I overheard him
asking John Burroughs what Halt and Col. Gordon Williams look like. So how
could he have placed Williams at the scene?
For now, I think it would be useful to hold Warren's story in abeyance until
we can get more attention focused on the case itself. After it has become
generally acknowledged that something strange did happen there, perhaps we can
look into some of the stranger allegations.
Jim
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From: Jim.Speiser@f100.n1010.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Jim Speiser)
Subject: Hudson Valley Messages
Date: 5 Oct 91 18:56:00 GMT
I have a whole bunch more messages to cross-post from the Science echo
regarding the Hudson Valley UFO, but I have been asked not to do so unless
Maury Markowitz receives confirmation that his last batch of responses to
ParaNet people were posted here. Could someone netmail him at 250/712 and
confirm that his messages did appear here?
The conversation has taken an interesting turn, and another respected member of
the echo has joined in. I believe I am zeroing in on the basic problem of why
Science - or rather, some scientists - cast a jaundiced eye on Ufology. I'm
anxious to post the remaining messages here in order to get some feedback,
especially from those of you with degrees in science. The message I am now
getting from them is that its not good enough that we have an observed anomaly,
we now have to PROVE to Science that this anomaly is unidentified AND
unidentifiable, by making highly structured and controlled scientific
measurements. I thought that was THEIR job....We can't do it because we don't
have the money, we don't have the money because we can't get the funding, we
won't get the funding until we prove that we have an anomaly to investigate,
and we can't prove that we have an anomaly until we do scientific testing on
it, which we don't have the money for....are we at an impasse?
Jim
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From: Jim.Speiser@f100.n1010.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Jim Speiser)
Subject: Telephone
Date: 5 Oct 91 18:58:00 GMT
Gerry:
Sorry I haven't called, I DID receive your phone number and will get to you
ASAP. Just been real busy, but I DO want to talk...
Jim
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From: Peggy.Noonan@p0.f150.n30163.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Peggy Noonan)
Subject: Micap
Date: 6 Oct 91 11:40:00 GMT
Thanks for the message defining MICAP. I hope this'll clarify it to
those who werpuzzled or misunderstood the acronym.
==Peggy==
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From: Peggy.Noonan@p0.f150.n30163.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Peggy Noonan)
Subject: KOA Weird Night 10/11&31
Date: 6 Oct 91 12:23:00 GMT
KOA radio in Denver (850 on the AM dial) will have two of the
ever-popular "Weird Night" programs this month. I don't have the
line-up yet, but the dates will be:
October 11 (midnight to 5a.m. -- Thurs. night to Fri. morning)
October 31 (same time) special Hallowe'en show.
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From: Michael.Corbin@p0.f428.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Michael Corbin)
Subject: Bentwater,Uk On Unsolved Mysteries
Date: 6 Oct 91 17:25:00 GMT
> Larry is a very nice, very charming man, who seems as credible as your
> Aunt Clara, and yet what he says is not only incredible, no one who has
> checked into his story has been able to verify a single thing he says.
> Col. Halt claims that Warren wasn't even present at the time of the
> sightings! And Warren's story is very inconsistent between tellings.
> Just about a month ago, I overheard him asking John Burroughs what Halt
> and Col. Gordon Williams look like. So how could he have placed Williams
> at the scene?
This is fine, but it doesn't answer the question of how Larry Warren knows
some of the more intimate details about what happened there, considering that
the coverup was almost immediate. That brings us to two questions: 1) Is
Halt covering up Warren's real involvement because Warren really knows and was
not as controllable as the others, or 2) Is Warren a deliberate disinformant
provided by the "control group" to further confuse this issue? Burroughs did
admit that Warren was in a flight wing which did in fact go out to the area on
the second day. Warren seems to be too motivated by other than a desire to
acquire profit over 10 years after the fact, to be discounted or held in
abeyance. Instead, I think that whatever Warren says should be investigated
as vigorously as Burroughs.
> For now, I think it would be useful to hold Warren's story in abeyance
> until we can get more attention focused on the case itself. After it has
> become generally acknowledged that something strange did happen there,
> perhaps we can look into some of the stranger allegations.
If Warren tells a story that is "stranger," perhaps he should be the primary
witness to this case?
For now, let's discuss what it is about Larry Warren that Fawcett/Greenwood
found so disturbing, and any others who feels that Warren should be placed on
hold.
Mike
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