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Info-ParaNet Newsletters Volume I Number 480
Thursday, September 26th 1991
Today's Topics:
Re: Bentwater,Uk On Unsolved Mysteries
1956 UFO Documentary
State of Ufololgy
Re: Confirmation
Re: Exasperated over HV
Re: Dave And Doug's Crop Circle Hoax
Image Files
Kansas disappearances
Implants
Re: Confirmation
Re: Image Files
1956 UFO Documentary
Re: State of Ufololgy
Re: Re : How old are the 'greys'?
Re: Exasperated over HV
HVUFO Round 4 [2/6]
Kansas disappearances
1956 UFO Documentary
Kansas disappearances
UFO Events Calendar
UFO Events Calendar
Ogden objects
Re: ogden object
Re: Tesla & Hungarian
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From: Michael.Corbin@p0.f428.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Michael Corbin)
Subject: Re: Bentwater,Uk On Unsolved Mysteries
Date: 21 Sep 91 23:48:00 GMT
* Forwarded from "Alt.Alien.Visitors"
* Originally from Jack Sinclair
* Originally dated 09-20-91 17:52
From: jsinclai@descartes.waterloo.edu (Jack Sinclair)
Date: 20 Sep 91 15:18:39 GMT
Organization: University of Waterloo
Message-ID: <1991Sep20.151839.2829@descartes.waterloo.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
In article <91262.133541SML108@psuvm.psu.edu> Scott the Great
<SML108@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>Many discrepancies... One of the biggest was something I saw presented on
>HBO many years ago. Colonel Halt's tape was played and the light from the
>nearby lighthouse was displayed at the same time. It was clear that his
>observations of lights in the sky basically corresponded EXACTLY with the
>period of the lighthouse. Weren't they also claiming that they were
What is 'EXACTLY' ?
>taken on board to repair the ship previously? Anyone out there remember
>the full body of evidence against this case. The one debunker they had
>on there was either paraphrased improperly (most likely) or just had
>no personality.
>
>
>Scott
The debunker on the show shifted his eyes so fast, and so often, I kept
wondering what he was trying to hide from us. All his body language said
was 'do not believe me'.
As for the lighthouse explanation: how could these people, having worked at
this place countless times before, suddenly see a lighthouse beam as an
alien device, and yet never again (except for the two other episodes)?
Jack.
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From: cwns4.INS.CWRU.Edu!xx044
Subject: 1956 UFO Documentary
Date: 22 Sep 91 21:31:23 GMT
From: xx044@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (UFOlogy SIG)
Next Friday, September 27, 1991 on TNT at 3:45 A.M. E.S.T. there
is a documentary called 'UFO.' It was made in 1956.
I seem to vaguely recall seeing this when I was a kid. I be-
lieve that it dealt with the overflights of UFOs over
Washington, D.C., and other assorted stuff of the time. As
I recall, and I was only a kid, it was interested. So, if you
got a Video recorder, this is a must from a historical perspec-
tive. Looking at the T.V. guide is looks like it might run
2 hours and 15 minutes, but you can never be sure.
Best, Dale B. Wedge
Co-SySop
Cleveland Free-net
UFOlogy Sig
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From: Sheldon.Wernikoff@p0.f150.n30163.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Sheldon Wernikoff)
Subject: State of Ufololgy
Date: 23 Sep 91 04:18:00 GMT
In a message to Jim Sanders <19-Sep-91 23:11> John Powell wrote:
JP> I also think that UFOlogy is about to, or is quite likely to,
JP> hit the skids soon. The recent and rather widespread
JP> popularization of 'aliens' and 'spaceships', which _could_ be
JP> a form of preparation for some revelation, _could also_ be the
JP> Big Setup. You know what I mean - all this hoopla and in the
JP> end - nothing. The ultimate, (for this generation anyway),
JP> discrediting of UFOlogy...
Greetings to all
I couldn't agree with John more...except to say that I feel we've
'hit the skids' already! Ufology has truly become a "War of the
*Words*".
I was just conversing with a man in Chicago, who's been involved in
ufology since Roswell. He's now in his mid 70's and told me he
knows little more about the phenomenon at present than he did 40
years ago. Recently, he has lost interest, and is selling off his
book collection.
Betty Hill is giving up lecturing at conferences because she says
there are now too many 'flakes' in the field. Even she does not
believe there have been as many 'abductions' as people claim.
Now, every black helicopter spotted is part of the cover-up. Each
new aircraft developed is touted as being a byproduct of 'alien'
technology. Every television commercial involving ET's or UFO's is
part of the government's 'adjustment and preparation' campaign.
'Mysterious' objects, implants, etc. are being found everywhere,
but nothing definitive ever comes of these 'breakthroughs'. Our
incessant hunger for more information is fed by the purveyors of
trash in the UFO periodicals. 'Fringe group' conferences abound
everywhere. Stanton Friedman even operates a '900' line where for
$2.00/minute, you can listen to old UFO material. What a rip-off!
Is that any way for a scientist to gain credibility?
Everyone seems to collect books, videos, documents, and case
histories - but to what end? This doesn't really bring us any
closer to the truth, but it does help line the providers pockets.
So, where do I think we're all headed? I guess I'll just have to
'channel' some Atlantean and find out. <grin>
Regards,
-= Sheldon =-
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From: Michael.Schuyler@f201.n350.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Michael Schuyler)
Subject: Re: Confirmation
Date: 21 Sep 91 17:37:00 GMT
In a message to All <09-15-91 15:59> Jim Speiser wrote:
JS>
JS> Can someone from ParaNet please netmail Maury at 250/712
JS> and testify that the preceding messages were cross-posted
JS> here from SCIENCE? Thanks....
JS>
JS>
Jim,
Thanks for the work you did getting it all in here. I think Maury is mad
at me, huh? I don't get it though. I thought we were talking about cockpit
lights, then suddenly we're talking about tail lights and landing lights.
Gee, I just wanted to say I'd never found a white cockpit light in the 150 I
flew. Didn't mean to set him off ;-). No need for a reply. It doesn't
matter. Thanks again.--Michael
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From: Michael.Schuyler@f201.n350.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Michael Schuyler)
Subject: Re: Exasperated over HV
Date: 21 Sep 91 19:43:00 GMT
In a message to All <09-19-91 13:22> ncar!apple.com!well!gmz
no> First of all, a 152's overhead lighting consists of a small
no> 'flood' with a red filter that illuminates the instrument panel.
no> It has two little slots which can be opened to throw a tiny beam
no> of white light onto the pilot's and/or passenger's lap area for
no> the purpose of illuminating charts. That's it. A 182, as
Thank you for confirming what I also posted. Every 150 I've flown has a red
light for illumination to aid in night vision. Turn on a white light and
it's simple: You go blind. Thanks, but I'd just as soon see the runway.
--Michael
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From: Michael.Schuyler@f201.n350.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Michael Schuyler)
Subject: Re: Dave And Doug's Crop Circle Hoax
Date: 21 Sep 91 19:50:00 GMT
In a message to All <09-17-91 09:40> Michael Corbin wrote:
MC> Clearly, the hoax hypothesis is by far the leading hypothesis to explain
MC> these crop patterns. (2) is a distant second, but only for the very simple
MC> patters and (3) is extremely unlikely.
MC>
MC> This ranking of explanations may change but it is clearly the current
MC> ranking.
It's pretty obvious lots of the circles have been hoaxed, som ein front of
witnesses. And it's pretty obvious by demonstration that it's possible for a
couple of guys to trample on some wheat and make circles. Even though these
two 60 year olds couldn't possibly have created all the circles, copycat
hoaxers could be invoked to account for the rest. It amazes me why someone
would go to so much trouble and energy in the middle of the night, but
still, it is possible.
BUT, what I still don't understand is some of the very complex geometric
shapes that have been created, and ones I've seen pictures of. These shapes
are perfectly geometric, especially as seen from the air. They are very
complex as well. How could a couple of guys with gunsights attached to their
baseball caps create these complex patterns? I heard recently (and no
confirmation yet) that one of the latest circles has been identified as a
Mandelbrot set. Two guys with baseball caps? I'd surely like to know how
they did that.
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From: Michael.Corbin@p0.f428.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Michael Corbin)
Subject: Image Files
Date: 23 Sep 91 07:07:00 GMT
Jim,
Could you digitize that drawing that Linda Bird has and distribute it to the
network?
Thanks,
Mike
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From: vanth!jms
Subject: Kansas disappearances
Date: 24 Sep 91 05:32:52 GMT
From: vanth!jms@amix.commodore.com (Jim Shaffer)
To: Jim Speiser
+Russell, Kansas? Isn't that where our old friend, Scott Corder, hails from? I
+wouldn't be a bit surprised if he is involved....
It was Russell County at least. I'd have to check the tape I made as to
whether it was the city of Russell.
Who is Scott Corder? I've heard the name, but it's not connecting with
anything at the moment.
Interestingly, I ran into one very bizarre tidbit about Russell today while
cleaning out some old messages on floppy. Here it is:
+From: Rich.Woods@p0.f37.n114.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Rich Woods)
+Subject: Prophecy
+Date: 20 Aug 90 00:38:00 GMT
+
+Well someone asked me about the prophecy file and I can't remeber who. I am
+putting it in the general message base as it does pertain to UFO's and may
+be of interest to most in light of the recent developements with the
+soldiers etc.
[lots deleted]
+ 1990
+
+13. Bob Dole, of Russell, Ks., becomes the next, greatest and
+last president of the United States. Temporary 'white house'
+set up in Russell. Russell bombed and Dole escapes.
+
[more deleted]
+Note: These prophecies were received by Donna between about
+March, 87, to February, 88.
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Jim Shaffer, Jr. | uunet!cbmvax!amix!vanth!jms | -- or is it a rut?
37 Brook Street | jms%vanth@amix.commodore.com |
Montgomery, PA 17752 | 72750.2335@compuserve.com | (Rush, 'Face Up')
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From: Sheldon.Wernikoff@p0.f150.n30163.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Sheldon Wernikoff)
Subject: Implants
Date: 24 Sep 91 06:13:00 GMT
Yes, Keith...the implant issue is certainly an elusive one. Of
course, I guess that could be said for the entire UFO phenomenon.
It's interesting that the earliest reference to implants that Jerry
could come up with was from the early 1980's. However, quite a few
science-fiction films were made in the mid to late 50's which
involved alien cerebral 'implants' used to control the human mind.
One of these I remember was the classic _Invaders From Mars_. So
the implant stories (even though fictional in this case) began much
earlier than the 80's.
Your case pertaining to the submandibular implant and its'
subsequent removal/disappearance is evocative of a similar
experience involving a woman here in Chicago. Briefly, this woman
had become aware of a series of abduction experiences, prior to
which she had undergone an MRI to attempt to diagnose a cause for
her chronic back pain. The radiologist's report described an UBO at
that time, but told the woman that this was noted in approximately
5% of all patients, was not pathological, and was not the cause of
her back pain. In January of 1990, the woman went to have a second
MRI done by a physician in New York who was sympathetic to the
abduction phenomenon, and was doing a study on abductee's claiming
implants. Supposedly, although I have not seen the actual data, the
radiologist found 'nothing remarkable' after scanning a dozen
individuals and soon lost interest in the investigation.
Another major problem with the implant scenario is the fact that
allegedly there are scores of recovered implants being scrutinized
by 'un-named' scientists at 'un-named' institutions. Nothing is
verifiable! The evidence, as far as I can tell, remains anecdotal.
Keep up the good work Keith, and I look forward to reading your
next article in the IUR.
-= Sheldon =-
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From: Jim.Speiser@f100.n1010.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Jim Speiser)
Subject: Re: Confirmation
Date: 23 Sep 91 18:58:00 GMT
Well, it turns out that there IS a white dome light in the 152, but don't
sweat it, there's not the slightest possibility that an aircraft can be
indentified from such as that.
Jim
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From: Jim.Speiser@f100.n1010.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Jim Speiser)
Subject: Re: Image Files
Date: 24 Sep 91 06:13:00 GMT
In a message to Jim Speiser <09-23-91 00:07> Michael Corbin wrote:
MC> Jim,
MC>
MC> Could you digitize that drawing that Linda Bird has and distribute it
MC> to the network?
MC>
MC> Thanks,
MC>
MC> Mike
MC>
Now why didn't I think of that???
Consider it done.
Jim
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From: Jim.Speiser@f37.n114.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Jim Speiser)
Subject: 1956 UFO Documentary
Date: 24 Sep 91 21:28:00 GMT
> Next Friday, September 27, 1991 on TNT at 3:45 A.M. E.S.T. there
> is a documentary called 'UFO.' It was made in 1956.
OOOOOOOO, that's a CLASSIC! It was a sort of 50's docudrama, narrated by a guy
that sounded like George Fenniman, with a newsreel music bed, and military
recreations...a real period piece!
Jim
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From: Jim.Speiser@f37.n114.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Jim Speiser)
Subject: Kansas disappearances
Date: 24 Sep 91 21:32:00 GMT
> It was Russell County at least. I'd have to check the tape I made as to
> whether it was the city of Russell.
> Who is Scott Corder? I've heard the name, but it's not connecting with
> anything at the moment.
> +
> +13. Bob Dole, of Russell, Ks., becomes the next, greatest and
> +last president of the United States. Temporary 'white house'
> +set up in Russell. Russell bombed and Dole escapes.
> +
That's it, you've confirmed it. This "predictions" file came from Scott Corder.
I remember that he made a point of mentioning Bob Dole's hometown because it
was the same as his own.
Scott Corder is a gent who started making all sorts of neo-Biblical prophecies
a couple of years back, none of which came true. I have the complete file on
him somewhere.....
Jim
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From: Jim.Delton@f100.n1010.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Jim Delton)
Subject: Re: State of Ufololgy
Date: 24 Sep 91 21:44:00 GMT
You've summed it up all too well!
There seems to be no solution; certainly none has shown up in the past
40 years.
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From: Linda.Bird@f100.n1010.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Linda Bird)
Subject: Re: Re : How old are the 'greys'?
Date: 15 Sep 91 04:53:00 GMT
Hi,
Thanks for offering to mail the comic picture of the Greys to me.
I'll be sure to share them with others here in the area. In return,
I'll send you an article from Tuesday, Sept. 10th's USA TODAY showing
how those two old gents in England claimed to have made the crop
circles.
My address:
1129 N. Sunview St.
Mesa, AZ 85205
Thanks, and welcome back to the Board!
Linda
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From: Jim.Speiser@f100.n1010.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Jim Speiser)
Subject: Re: Exasperated over HV
Date: 20 Sep 91 13:36:00 GMT
Where have YOU been?
You're absolutely right, Gerry, and that issue will be handled in my next
post to Mr. Markowitz. I believe the discussion has gone on long enough, and
has served its purpose. He seems to be sufficiently embarrassed as to be
feigning a lack of interest in the subject (a sure sign). I notice that none
of the bigwigs in the echo (with whom he attempted to curry favor) have
jumped to his defense. Now's my chance....
Now be a good boy and netmail me your new phone number!
Jim
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From: Jim.Speiser@f37.n114.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Jim Speiser)
Subject: HVUFO Round 4 [2/6]
Date: 20 Sep 91 19:45:00 GMT
> From: vanth!jms@amix.commodore.com (Jim Shaffer)
> To: Jim Speiser
> Maury Markowitz says:
> + Right at the start, I got into a conversation about the Gulf Stream UFO
> +stories with another echo member. I was interested that this story seemed to
> +be so close to the Hudson Valley UFO stories in some ways. Soon after,
> Jim
> Jim,
> Any idea what Maury thought similar between the Gulf 'Stream' :-) and
> Hudson Valley cases?
Looking back, I can't remember. I think it was just the multiple sightings
aspect.
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From: Jim.Speiser@f37.n114.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Jim Speiser)
Subject: Kansas disappearances
Date: 20 Sep 91 19:46:00 GMT
> From: vanth!jms@amix.commodore.com (Jim Shaffer)
> Can anyone fill me in on the disappearance of two women and two daughters
> of one of them in Russel County, Kansas? The only thing I've heard so far
> (just minutes ago on NBC) is that they were 'studying' UFOs and rumors are
> rampant that the aliens have snatched them. The authorities aren't happy
> about all the fuss and say that they've recently gotten some solid leads
> but it's a bizarre case. My gut feeling is that when the truth is known
> it'll probably be a Messianic cult like the GB-6, but I'd be a lot more
> comfortable with better information.
Russell, Kansas? Isn't that where our old friend, Scott Corder, hails from? I
wouldn't be a bit surprised if he is involved....
Jim
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From: Jim.Speiser@f37.n114.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Jim Speiser)
Subject: 1956 UFO Documentary
Date: 24 Sep 91 21:28:00 GMT
> Next Friday, September 27, 1991 on TNT at 3:45 A.M. E.S.T. there
> is a documentary called 'UFO.' It was made in 1956.
OOOOOOOO, that's a CLASSIC! It was a sort of 50's docudrama, narrated by a guy
that sounded like George Fenniman, with a newsreel music bed, and military
recreations...a real period piece!
Jim
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From: wrs.com!davidj
Subject: UFO Events Calendar
Date: 26 Sep 91 03:33:18 GMT
From: davidj@wrs.com (David Jones)
From: davidj@wrs.com
Subject: UFO Events Calendar
Date: Wed Sep 25 19:16:15 PDT 1991
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* The following are some upcoming events that will focus on UFOs. I *
* share this with you in the hopes that the more people that know the *
* truth, that the truth will be known by more people. I am in no *
* way involved with any of these events and share this for information *
* purposes only. If you know of other UFO-type events, I welcome email *
* in this regards. Enjoy. *
*************************************************************************
Sept. 28 UFORUM - West L. A. Every last Saturday of the month
Speakers on all aspects of UFOs
Felicia Mahood Center, 11338 Santa Monica Blvd.
West Los Angeles, CA
info: A.R.C. 11012 Ventura Blvd., #134, Studio City, CA 91604
213 874-8185
Sept 29 NH MUFON UFO Conference
Yokens Convention Center, Portsmouth, New Hampshire
Oct. 3-6 International UFO Congress
European UFO Network, Belgium
Oct. 12-13 The UFO Experience
Holiday Inn, North Haven, Conn.
Oct 12-13 Fourth Symposium of Ufology and Exobiology
Sao Palo, Brazil
Oct 19 Show-Me UFO Conference III
Holiday Inn Airport-West
Bridgeton, Missouri (near St. Louis Airport)
Oct 26 UFORUM - West L. A. Every last Saturday of the month
Speakers on all aspects of UFOs
Felicia Mahood Center, 11338 Santa Monica Blvd.
West Los Angeles, CA
info: A.R.C. 11012 Ventura Blvd., #134, Studio City, CA 91604
213 874-8185
Nov 15 - 18 Fri - Mon Whole Life Expo
Los Angeles Airport Hilton Convention Center
5711 W. Century Blvd. 213 369-7090 POB 1317 Venice, CA 90291
Marina Popovich, Brad Steiger among others will be speaking.
Nov sometime CUFOS
Santa Barbara Center for Humanistic Studies
Santa Barbara, CA 93190-1611
Dec 8 - 13 Vegas International UFO Congress (This follows closely on the heels
of the Tucson Conference, both put on by Wendelle Stevens)
UFO's and Official Authorities
Riviera Hotel, Las Vegas, NV
Office: 4266 Broadway, Oakland CA 510 428-0202 FAX 510 654-7802
Tickets $290.00 (if obtained in advance)
List of speakers:
J.J Benitez, Spain, Spanish Government files
Joel Mesnard, France, UFO Abductions
Mario Luis Bracamonte, Argentina, Heads C.O.R. Group
Zetha Rodriguez, Mexico, Prof. H. Abduction
Prof. Darush Bagheri, Iran, UFOs in East Mythology
Prof. Sun Shi-Li, Rep. of China, China UFO Update
Bob Ewing, Rep. of S. Africa, Air Traffic and UFOs
Capt. Rui Avila Castel, Portugal, UFOs and Airliners
Capt. Guy Kirkwood, USA, UFO Intercepts
Bob Oeschler, USA, NASA and UFOs
Sgt. Clifford Stone, U.S. Army, Contactee Treatment
Dr. Richard Haines, UAS, Pilot Reports on UFOs
Jorge Martin, Puerto Rico, UFO Aircraft Capture
Alejandro Agostinelli, Argentina, UFO Photographs
Marco Petit de Castro, Brazil, UFO Photographs
Guido Moosbrugger, Austria, Inside the Meier Case
Michael Hessmann, Germany, Latest German UFOs
Vladimir Terziski, Bulgaria, UFO Technology
Lembit Rannu, Estonia, UFO Abductions
Ulimas Lipende, Finland, UFO Abductions
Hakkan Blomqvist, Sweden, THe Helge Case
Tales Schonia, Georgia USSR, Tbilisi Landings
Col. R. O. Dean, USA, SHAPE UFO Commission
Sept 1992 (tentative) Belgian International UFO Conference
(Put on by Wendelle Stevens. This will be his 3rd)
1993 sometime (probably) New York International UFO Conference
(Put on by Wendelle Stevens. This will be his 4th)
cc`ed to UNIX netnews:alt.alien.visitors
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David W. Jones
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uunet!wrs!davidj
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From: Sheldon.Wernikoff@p0.f150.n30163.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Sheldon Wernikoff)
Subject: Ogden objects
Date: 26 Sep 91 06:07:00 GMT
Hi, Peggy
I've been following your "Ogden objects" story with interest, and
quite honestly, at least a modicum of skepticism.
I think it would be great if you could post a brief synopsis of
this event, detailing the objects discovery and events that have
unfolded up to this point.
Apparently, you now have photographs in your possesion which Jim
Speiser is going to digitize and make available to the network. Who
took these pix, and who actually disovered the objects? What is the
apparent connection with Sitchin's material? I understand that the
"writing" is supposed to be similar to Arabic characters according
to Curtis.
You would think that many news services would be interested in
picking up a story such as this, but to my knowledge only_Omni
Magazine_ has shown an interest in the scoop.
>From what I've seen so far, it seems to be the same old story of
too many "un-named" sources. Anecdotal evidence such as this *must*
be verifiable if we are to be taken seriously.
Best of luck,
-= Sheldon =-
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From: Linda.Bird@f100.n1010.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Linda Bird)
Subject: Re: ogden object
Date: 26 Sep 91 03:54:00 GMT
Hi Jim,
Wouldn't dream of asking you for 29 cents for sending you a drawing of
the Ogden Object. It's a sketch I made from a photograph, not the
actual photograph. But I guess I did a good enough job because several
people have identified it as a "tunnel borer." It is supposedly some
40 feet high. Post your address & I'll snail it to ya.
<:-) Linda
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From: Linda.Bird@f100.n1010.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Linda Bird)
Subject: Re: Tesla & Hungarian
Date: 26 Sep 91 04:23:00 GMT
Hi Clark,
The man who was channeling Tesla (alledgedly) was not speaking in
Hungarian, just in a really thick Hungarian-type accent. (I was at the
BeckleyCon earlier in this month and attended that particular session.)
TTYL,
Linda
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