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Info-ParaNet Newsletters Volume 1 Number 465
Info-ParaNet Newsletters Volume I Number 465
Monday, August 26th 1991
Today's Topics:
Re: Alternative III
Mysterious Roar Heard By Some...
Russian Scientists and UFOs
USAF Exotic Aircraft
Upcoming (?) Events
Precarious Bipeds
Re: Cattle Mutilations
Re: New UFO Titles!
Re: That grey area...
Re: ALIEN LIAISON
UFO show
Mexico video
SHUTTLE UFO's
Epilepsy & Dogs
Rainbow declaration
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>From rhi.hi.is!adamd
Subject: Re: Alternative III
Date: 25 Aug 91 15:44:47 GMT
From: adamd@rhi.hi.is (Adam David)
In-Reply-To: <9108212221.AA24526@scicom.alphacdc.com>;
from 'Paranet Newsletters' at Aug 21, 91 10:21 pm
A lot of people seem to think that the film was shown by the BBC on
April Fool's day, thus making it a rather obvious prank. I happen to
have a copy of the book and unless it is entirely fiction or a figment
of somebody's imagination, the details of the film are as follows:
The film is called 'Alternative 3' and was to be one of a weekly series of
serious scientific documentaries going by the name of 'Science Report' some
time in 1976. These programmes were made by Sceptre Television for the ITV
network Anglia TV. Following a very successful 13-week series in 1975, a
26-week series was planned for (and probably also happened in) 1976.
Alternative 3 was originally to be a simple coverage of the 'Brain Drain'
phenomenon (where top British Scientists were being offered better jobs and
better pay in other parts of the world). When the research team stumbled on
the Alternative 3 story during early 1976, the film had to be rescheduled
because it took another year to gather the material. I do not have a copy of
the film, do any of you have it on videotape (and dare to admit it)?
Great efforts were made to suppress the publication of this material.
Alternative 3 was first shown to the public at 9pm on Monday,
20th June, 1977. I think it was a one-hour programme although the original
series probably had half-hour programmes (I'm only guessing here).
Maybe it has been shown in other countries since then on April Fool's day
as an attempt to reduce credibility (???). If that is not the case, then
the April Fool's explanation is a damned lie (as opposed to a counter-hoax).
The book is publised by Sphere Books in 1988, and is categorised as
'World Affairs/Speculation'. Apparently the publishers refused to handle
it unless it was stated to be speculation.
What other material is available on this subject?
--
Adam David. (adamd@rhi.hi.is)
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From: Michael.Corbin@p0.f428.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Michael Corbin)
Subject: Mysterious Roar Heard By Some...
Date: 25 Aug 91 15:22:00 GMT
The following was taken from the Las Vegas Sun, Thursday, August 22, 1991.
Federal and military officials couldn't shed light on a mysterious roar
that rattled some neighborhoods in northwest Las Vegas.
Some residents complained about the sound like a jet engine that droned
for fifteen minutes about 6 A.M. Wednedsay.
The U.S. Deptartment of Energy manager of the Nevada Test Site, where
underground nuclear weapons experiments are conducted 65 miles northwest of
Las Vegas reported nothing unusual.
"That's where I live and I didn't hear anything," DOE spokesman Chris West
said.
"I can't imagine anything that would cause a roar," West said. The DOE
does do some blasting at a rock quarry, but no activity was reported at that
time, he said.
Nellis Air Force Base spokeswoman Lila Edwards said the base had received
several inquiries, but nothing registered.
"We've had no sonic booms," Edwards said.
END ARTICLE
I wanted to put this article here as it sounds very much like what a witness
told Roger Black he heard on the night that a crop circle was formed in Iowa.
More on this will follow.
Mike
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From: cwns4.INS.CWRU.Edu!aa440
Subject: Russian Scientists and UFOs
Date: 25 Aug 91 21:40:08 GMT
From: aa440@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Dale Wedge)
Christopher A. Joseph of the Cleveland Free-Net UFOlogy Sig
has asked the SySops for information pertaining to any
known names and also addresses of Russian scientists who are
working on the subject of UFOs.
Any help on any of these matters would be appreciated.
You may respond in the ParaNet Newsletter since it is posted
in the Cleveland UFOlogy Sig files and general section of the
system.
Thanks,
Dale B. Wedge
aa440
xx044 - SySop I.D.
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From: 'C.R. Harding' <C.R.Harding@massey.ac.nz>
Subject: USAF Exotic Aircraft
Date: 26 Aug 91 04:16:18 GMT
I received the following information which was posted to the skunk-works
mailing list. This mailing list is named after the Skunk Works division
of Lockheed and is used by enthusiasts to discuss 'Black' aerospace
projects such as the SR-71 Blackbird and various Stealth projects.
I've contacted the message's author who is quite happy for the
information to be reposted to Paranet provided his identity is kept
confidential. He's also prepared to answer questions (to the best of his
ability) so if you have any queries feel free to post them to Paranet
or mail them to me, I'll relay them on to him.
I think this is very interesting information and can be interpreted in a
number of ways depending on your own opinions and level of paranoia! :-)
+ From: jbloggs@somesite.somewhere.dom (A skunk-works Subscriber)
+ Subject: Really Advanced (Exotic) Aircraft
+
+ Since things on the skunk.works group have been a little slow,
+ allow me to liven things up a bit.
+
+ I have excerpted some interesting quotes from several issues of
+ a leading aerospace publication (AW&ST) that imply some really
+ interesting things.
+
+ The implications were very nebulous to me, until recently, when I was
+ referred to second source article with similar statements. This
+ article was in a much less well known and therefore reliable magazine,
+ that really has nothing to do with aerospace.
+
+ The author of the second source article used a pen-name, and we
+ recently found out who the author was. I do not have his permission
+ to use his real name, but he's well known to everybody in skunk.works,
+ and he is an aerospace writer, and reliable.
+
+ The implications from these two different sources is that
+ our country (the U.S.) is working on some VERY unusual aircraft.
+
+ More unusual than you think!
+
+ The implication is that the U.S. has not only JUST advanced the science
+ of Aerospace, but that they're REALLY TRYING to advance it to an
+ incredible level. This shouldn't be shocking, but for skunk.works
+ types like us, THIS IS INTERESTING!
+
+ Now, since this IS the skunk.works mail list, I'm going to ask people
+ to give speculative suggestions as to what these journalists are
+ referring to here. I would like some informed speculation (it doesn't
+ have to be professionally based) as to what kinds of advances these
+ journalists and writers are talking about.
+
+ The journalists/writer I'm excerpting have excellent contacts with
+ leading Aerospace people. These articles have been mentioned in
+ other contexts before, but there is more interesting information in
+ them. The fact that these people are aerospace journalists and not
+ some 'other' kind of journalist or writer is significant.
+
+ There are black aircraft flying in the Southwest as reported in the
+ following AW&ST issues:
+
+ Dec. 18, 1989 issue. Pages 42-43,
+ Oct. 1, 1990 issue. Pages 20-23,
+ Dec. 24, 1990 issue. Pages 41-44,
+ Jan. 8, 1990 issue. Page 74 (A letter to the editor).
+
+ SOME (not all) of these aircraft are VERY unusual. The term
+ 'exotic aircraft' has started to be used in referring to them.
+
+ Read each one of these carefully. I've capitalized certain words
+ for effect, to make sure they're not missed.
+
+ First, some of the AW&ST articles (quoted without permission).
+
+ 'Although facilities in remote areas of the Southwest have been home to
+ classified vehicles for decades, the NUMBER and SOPHISTICATION of new
+ aircraft appear to have INCREASED SHARPLY over the last 10 years, when
+ substantial funding was made available for 'deep black' projects." (AW&ST
+ 10/1/90 pg.20)
+
+ 'Do we now possess the 'ULTIMATE" WEAPONS featured in comic books-
+ the ones SO DEVASTATING any potential adversary would never think of
+ disturbing the peace for fear of the good guys' retaliation?'
+ (AW&ST 12/24/91 pg. 44).
+
+ 'SEVERAL VEHICLES, though, appear to INCORPORATE TECHNOLOGIES THAT OUTSTRIP
+ THOSE now employed by engineers charged with developing MORE TRADITIONAL,
+ CURRENT-GENERATION AIRCRAFT'. (AW&ST 10/1/90 pg. 20)
+
+ 'Hard as it may be to fathom, there is REASON TO WONDER WHETHER COMPLETE
+ KNOWLEDGE OF THE MOST EXOTIC AIRCRAFT MAY REACH 'The Top,' all for
+ super-security.' (AW&ST 12/24/91 pg. 44).
+
+ 'Industry experts who have worked on 'deep black" programs, believe that
+ it would be HIGHLY UNUSUAL for all but a very few political officials to
+ have access to or knowledge of these programs. History has shown, they
+ maintain, that elected officials and their staffs are poor security risks.'
+ (AW&ST 10/1/90 pg 21)
+
+ 'Several of these people had hands-on experience with a number of the
+ classified vehicles. Although prevented from discussing specific projects,
+ these individuals said, 'There are BIGGER AND BETTER THINGS OUT THERE,'
+ referring to aircraft based at the Nevada test locations.'
+ (AW&ST 10/1/90 pg 20)
+
+ Now for the second source article. This article was written under the
+ pen-name of Al Frickey, and it's entitled: 'A Look at Aurora and Some
+ UnFunded Opportunities (UFOs)'. This piece appeared in (of all places)
+ the Feb. 1988 issue of 'Gung Ho' magazine.
+
+ Note, the term UnFunded Opportunities (UFOs) is NOT new. One place
+ where one can find it used, is in the Sweetman/Goodall 'Lockheed
+ F-117A Stealth Fighter' book.
+
+ I'm sure that many people who read this mail list have at least one of
+ Mr. Frickey's books on their shelves at home (with his real name on it).
+ There is no need to capitalize any of these paragraphs. The implications
+ are more clear.
+
+ Allow me to quote several sections of it (without permission):
+
+ As for UnFunded Opportunities, these are programs dealing with
+ technology so advanced that one Air Force officer involved in SR-71
+ development said: 'We are flight testing vehicles that defy description.
+ To compare them conceptually to the SR-71 would be like comparing
+ Leonardo da Vinci's parachute design to the space shuttle.'
+
+ Other officers are similarly emphatic about the nature of these new systems.
+ 'We have things that are so far beyond the comprehension of the average
+ aviation authority as to be really alien to our way of thinking,'
+ says one retired colonel.
+
+ 'Lets put it this way', explained one retired Lockheed engineer. "We
+ have things flying in the Nevada desert that would make George Lucas drool.''
+
+ Now remember, there are Aerospace people saying these things!
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Craig H. The Net: C.R.Harding@massey.ac.nz BBS: +64 6 3551342 3/12/24
A journey of a thousand miles begins with a cash advance.
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From: vanth!jms
Subject: Upcoming (?) Events
Date: 26 Aug 91 05:34:17 GMT
From: vanth!jms@amix.commodore.com (Jim Shaffer)
I originally sent this on August 9, but I don't know if it ever got through.
I apologize if you're seeing it twice.
+---< 7/17/91 >---*
+*
+ Some interesting current events which may interest you:
Yes, as soon as I get the time machine finished. I've heard of network
delays before, but I'm starting to wonder if my feed site is too close to
Philadelphia or something.
+Taken from the flier:
+
+ PUBLIC BRIEFING:
+ The Lancaster Syndrome, or
+ The Military/Industrial/Alien Complex
What does the word 'Lancaster' mean in this context? I ask because we have
a city and county of Lancaster in Pennsylvania, and not long ago a
previously-unknown group based there announced an allegedly repeatable
effect not unlike cold fusion but attributed to a different mechanism than
the P&F version. (Specifically, electrons dropping to a level *below* the
ground state.)
+WHEN: Tuesday, July 23rd, 7:30pm
+WHERE: Louise Lowry Davis Center, corner of Victoria and
+ De la Vina, Santa Barbara. Seating limited. Arrive early.
+TICKETS: $5 at the door. Preceeds support ongoing research.
+
+Information you need to know. Plan to attend now.
So, anyone who attended, how was it?
--
uunet!cbmvax!amix!vanth!jms
'We're only immortal for a limited time.' (Rush, "Dreamline")
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From: Linda.Bird@f100.n1010.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Linda Bird)
Subject: Precarious Bipeds
Date: 25 Aug 91 16:37:00 GMT
Hi Clark,
This letter to the Editor of "The Phoenix Gazette" reminded me of your
post the other day about early life on earth. It reads:
"Dear Editor:
The biped self-named genus Homo sapiens considers itself the
highest form of life on planet Earth. Why does it think this?
It is not the largest, strongest, fastest or toughest of creatures.
Its eyesight is not noteworthy--it is blind in near darkness where a
cat can see quite well. Its sense of smell is pathetic--it can detect
no other creature at a distance except perhaps a spraying skunk. Its
reflexes are slow--a leopard could scratch its face three times before
it could turn its head. A sixth sense that warns most creatures of
impending danger is almost non-existent in this biped.
"Wherein, then, lies this two-legged creature's fancied
superiority? In its large brain? What has this big-brained bidped
done to prolong its time on Earth? Not much. In fact, the reverse is
true. This 'highest form of life' is actively engaged in destroying
the planet--at least the plant and animal life thereon. Brainy but
impractical Homo sapiens. ("Sap" for short) is busily destroying rain
forest, 'paving over' much of the nation, defiling the air, polluting
the water, making species after species extinct, and so on, ad
absurdum, ad nauseam.
"But the crowing stupidity of this lordly, egotistical,
short-sighted being shows in the pace at which it is
trying--sucessfully--to over-populate a planet that, with a limited
number of two-leggers, could become the "paradise on Earth" the
creature dreams forlornly about. But the dedication with which it
pursues its ability to copulate year-round (unique among Earth's
creatures), combined with an egotistical yen for large families,
practically guarantees not paradise, but eventually an unhealthful,
air-polluted, water-short, hopelessly overcrowded wasteland--a hell-on-
Earth for those bipeds who precariously survive that long."
(signed) Robert L Cook
Clark, I just thought this was a good addendum to your piece last week.
Regards,
Linda
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From: Paul.Faeder@f70.n1010.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Paul Faeder)
Subject: Re: Cattle Mutilations
Date: 24 Aug 91 06:16:24 GMT
> From what I've read, they don't seem to be able to pin
> down a specific cause of death in very many cases, if
> any. Also, in many cases they can't even find
> footprints around the animal from the killers. They
> often blame Satanists yet I don't recall a single
> instance of the supposed satanists ever being caught
> or of them even identifiying potential suspects.
I don't recall reading a cause of death before either. But
the question of "how to mutilate a cow" keeps coming up in
my mind.
Although I have no intention of mutilating a cow, I am
serious about my question. Assume you wanted to extract some
cow blood and organs from a cow, how do you go about it?
You have to immobilize that cow somehow - but how?
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From: Paul.Faeder@f70.n1010.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Paul Faeder)
Subject: Re: New UFO Titles!
Date: 24 Aug 91 06:19:57 GMT
> Hi Paul
> Would you happen to carry a book by Jacques Vallee
> called
> MESSENGERS OF DECEPTIONS. It may be out of print.
It's Friday and I can't call the distributors. But I'll call
Monday and let you know.
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From: Steve.Rose@f134.n109.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Steve Rose)
Subject: Re: That grey area...
Date: 22 Aug 91 09:00:00 GMT
MS> -> SR> 6: gray - that area of matter in the human brain which
MS> -> SR> conceives and accepts concepts and theories pertaining to
MS> -> SR> the reality of alien beings with little regard for proof or
MS> -> SR> factual material
MS>
MS> 7: gray - the mindset that refuses to acknowledge even the possibility
MS> of alien beings despite hundreds of unrelated eyewitness reports.
8: gray - the color of the flannel suit which the horse wears.
PARANET ALPHA-EPSILON(sm)
RoseReader 1.52a G001428:
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From: Don.Allen@f414.n154.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Don Allen)
Subject: Re: ALIEN LIAISON
Date: 24 Aug 91 20:10:58 GMT
Linda,
You said:
The July MUFON Journal (which just arrived yesterday!) had a terrible review
of Tim Good's newest book. I was rather shocked. They
checked up on some claims of Bob Oeschler, and they were quite revealing!!
(I've wondered about that guy for some time; MUFON checked on
his claims of employment, etc.)
Now...this has piqued my curiousity a bit..without going into
a great amount of detail..can you give a summary of what was
revealed in the MUFON Journal about Oeschler?
Thanks,
Don
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From: John.Hicks@f29.n363.z1.FIDONET.ORG (John Hicks)
Subject: UFO show
Date: 25 Aug 91 06:08:00 GMT
Saw Bill English, Don Ware and Ed Walters speak today at the "Great
UFO/ET/Alien and Abduction Congress" (!) here in O'do.
If consistency means anything, Ed's certainly consistent in his story. I
could almost repeat it all word-for-word now. Couple of new photos (not his)
of redlight gobs at a distance. One could just barely be made out to be oblong.
Don stepped out of his MUFON shoes and told us that he personally puts quite
a bit of stock in certain channeled material. He was pretty big on Pleiadians.
He was interesting, even though I don't buy any of the channel/contact stuff
myself.
Ole Bill stole the show. I'd guess that most of you have heard his stories a
time or two, but he sure has a presence.
One other tidbit. I got a look at one of Jorge Martin's F-14 photos that he'd
published in a Spanish-language UFO magazine. It shows (from the ground) an
F-14 type aircraft in about an 80-degree bank with wings spread, and it appears
to be circling or making a close pass at a classic-type saucer. The photo
wasn't close-up, but the airplane and the object were readily identifiable.
Jorge told me that the camera used was an ordinary inexpensive point'n'shoot
type loaded with ISO 100 Kodak neg film. He said that the photographer had
apparently just been abducted or otherwise influenced by the object, and that
the photographer said he was reflexively raising the camera and shooting each
shot without any conscious thought or intent. Sort of like a knee-jerk.
White dust spots and hairs (!) in the image indicate to me that it was most
likely a straight print of the original neg rather than any sort of composite
image. It looks for-real.
Unfortunately, the Congress is apparently a bust. About 40 people showed up,
and the promoters are probably going to take a loss. This was due to very high
initial admission price, an almost-total lack of advertising, then a half-price
offer that no one knew about. Too bad.
jbh
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From: John.Hicks@f29.n363.z1.FIDONET.ORG (John Hicks)
Subject: Mexico video
Date: 26 Aug 91 07:40:00 GMT
Wendelle Stevens today showed a video tape composed of five clips of tape
shot by five witnesses, including a Mexican TV crew, of a UFO hovering over
Mexico City during totality of the July 11 solar eclipse.
The tapes all showed an apparently-metallic fairly large
spherical/discoid object, and it definitely was *not* the eclipsed sun. The
object appeared to be rotating, but that may have been a video artifact. It
did, however, appear to emit bursts of dim red light or blobs.
The object appeared to be almost at the zenith.
The camera operators were at different locations, and very excited
Spanish could be heard in the background of some of the clips.
Quality of the video clips ranged from superb (the TV crew) to mighty
bad. One of the clips would be bad for those prone to airsickness.
Anyway, it's hot stuff.
jbh
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From: John.Hicks@f29.n363.z1.FIDONET.ORG (John Hicks)
Subject: SHUTTLE UFO's
Date: 24 Aug 91 14:48:01 GMT
> UFO NEAR SHUTTLE PUZZLES NASA SCIENTISTS
NASA at KSC told local news people that they'd figured out that it was a big
hunk of ice.
jbh
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From: John.Hicks@f29.n363.z1.FIDONET.ORG (John Hicks)
Subject: Epilepsy & Dogs
Date: 24 Aug 91 14:53:02 GMT
> For that matter, maybe your dog "hears" you thinking about your commands
> before you vocalize them...
Interesting. He sure knows the difference between coming in for a bath or
just hanging out. Maybe dogs can somehow detect brain electrical patterns and
have learned to associate certain patterns with certain things.
jbh
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From: Don.Allen@f29.n363.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Don Allen)
Subject: Rainbow declaration
Date: 24 Aug 91 19:53:00 GMT
Mike,
Thanks for posting that longggg text on the Rainbow Declaration.
I have a question though...was there a Part 5 of this text??
If so, it never made it here..
I noticed that it jumped from Part 4 to Part 6...
Any way it could be re-sent?
Thanks
Don
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