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Info-ParaNet Newsletters Volume I Number 442
Friday, July 26th 1991
Today's Topics:
(none)
Settling the whole issue?
CROP CIRCLES
Abduction Case
(none)
The Coverup
The Coverup
ST TNG
Star Trek--The Next Generation
ST:TNG -- 'First Contact'
Lear
New Planet
Re: Hi -where ya been?
SS433
Re: The Coverup
Re: test outgoing
A Good Read
Crash at the Nevada Test Site
Gerald Anderson
GULF BREEZE
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From: ecn.purdue.edu!lush
Subject: (none)
Date: 23 Jul 91 15:41:39 GMT
From: lush@ecn.purdue.edu (Gregory B Lush)
Subject: Settling the whole issue?
Michael Corbin writes, regarding the Roswell case:
? Granted, it is not the flying-saucer-lands-on-the-White-House-Lawn that
? would settle this business once and for all, but it does prove that many
? people were involved in a highly organized effort to clean up a crash
? site where something very strange crashed.
I'm a little confused here. Would a 'White House' landing convince you of
the presence of aliens? Is that what you meant? How do we know that
humans do not now have the capability to make a 'flying saucer'?
Couldn't such a landing be a 'hoax' by our government or someone else?
You have obviously spent a great deal of time and energy researching
phenomena related to UFOs in an objective manner. Would you then throw
that all away and just believe what you saw? Where is the physical
evidence of alien involvement in such an event?
Perhaps I misunderstood what you meant.
Greg (lush@ecn.purdue.edu)
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From: mrc-crc.ac.uk!sgamble
Subject: CROP CIRCLES
Date: 23 Jul 91 17:57:57 GMT
From: Steve Gamble x3293 <sgamble@mrc-crc.ac.uk>
I have just returned to the UK after visiting the MUFON Conference
in Chicago. There was much debate about crop circles, particularly
circles from the UK, at the Conference so I thought I would send
a brief update on what appears to be happening.
First thing is that there appear to be a higher proportion of hoaxes
this year, presumably following extensive media exposure of the subject
last year.
There were few reports in the early part of the year, maybe only a
couple of dozen. About the time of the MUFON conference the number
of reports began to pick up. At the conference Colin Andrews said
he understood that the number of new reports had reached about 15
per day (similar to the peak rate last year). It appears, however,
that the rate has reached two or three per day (i.e. 15 in the
five days Colin had been away from home - perhaps he misunderstood
the message or he knows about many more reports than the other
circles researchers).
There appear to be fewer single circles this year. Paul Fuller
told me that there were quite a few 'dumbell' formations, two
circles connected by a spur. Some people are classifying these
as pictograms although personally I would resrict such a name
to the more complex formations with several circles joined by
spurs and with multiple extended features such as combs. Paul
told me there were also more of these complex pictograms as
well.
There are at least two reports from the Midlands, these tend
to be much rarer than further south. The first was a 65 feet
wide circle found in oil seed rape (in the US known as something
like swagname grass??? - woody stemed plant with bright yellow
flowers with very oily seeds) near Market Harborough. This was
found in the first week of June.
The second circle was found near Wellingborough in Northamptonshire
last week, but I have no more information as yet.
Incidentally, Mike Chorost presented some very interesting material
at the MUFON Conference about the apparent reduction of soil obtained
from a circles sites. As Mike admitted, it was only from two circles
so much more work will need to be done. It is possible that one circle
was from Tennesse on 17th May 91, but I am not sure on that. The
reduction effect was detected by measuring a lowering of the alpha
radiation from the soil. Since alpha particles are helium nuclei, Mike
suggests that electron have been added to the soil thereby neutalising
the alpha particles (at least that's what I understood him to say).
This might suggest some mechanism like the charged vortex that Terence
Meaden has been proposing is at work. I think it is too early to
discount the other theories of circle formation, but this could look
good for Meaden's theory.
STEVE GAMBLE
s.gamble@uk.ac.crc
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From: Jim.Speiser@paranet.FIDONET.ORG (Jim Speiser)
Subject: Abduction Case
Date: 22 Jul 91 22:22:00 GMT
Steve:
First, welcome to ParaNet. Your organization is a much-needed addition
to this network.
Second, a few months ago a program aired on American television on the
subject of abductions. One of the three segments centered on a case
involving a police officer in Yorkshire by the name of Alan Godfrey. I
wondered if you were familiar with this case, and how it is regarded in
the UK. It seemed a very interesting case on this end, but I had never
heard of it before.
Thanks,
Jim Speiser
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From: Michael.Corbin@p0.f428.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Michael Corbin)
Subject: (none)
Date: 24 Jul 91 01:17:00 GMT
> From: ecn.purdue.edu!lush
> Date: 23 Jul 91 15:41:39 GMT
> Message-ID: <13477@scicom.AlphaCDC.COM>
> Newsgroups: info.paranet
>
> From: lush@ecn.purdue.edu (Gregory B Lush)
>
> Perhaps I misunderstood what you meant.
You did. My comments about the landing were to imply that the alien business
might be solved by those who believe that aliens are visiting this planet.
Again, I require much more proof before I would believe anything.
Mike
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From: John.Burke@f9.n1012.z9.FIDONET.ORG (John Burke)
Subject: The Coverup
Date: 24 Jul 91 04:33:00 GMT
Kurt Lochner writes:
> You were commenting to another couple of users and
> I found the statements to be quite similar to some
> of my own recent musings and speculations....
> >
> > The existence of a cover-up is ultimately up to the
> > UFO-nauts themselves.
> .......
>
> That is a fresh idea! A cover-up or is it more of
> a cover-around for containment?
A "cover-around" is more like it! They seem to be more
concerned with containment which would be consistent with the
"flap" phenomenon.
>
> I've recently toyed with the idea that the Greys and
> other similar reports are a synthetic race, perhaps
> android and controlled by a machine intelligence.
> This could account for the reports of hesitance on
> the behalf of "group encounters" with them. The machine
> intelligence can't possibly be prepared for all of our
> many unusual responses and may be confused by mankind
> working at cross-purposes to himself.
The android explanation would also get some support from the
reports that Len Stringfield has published about Graylien
anatomy: no digestive system, no sex organs, etc. It's an
interesting idea. Come to think of it, nobody ever said that
they found a toilet seat in the Roswell debris, did they?
-- John
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From: John.Burke@f9.n1012.z9.FIDONET.ORG (John Burke)
Subject: The Coverup
Date: 24 Jul 91 04:47:00 GMT
Steve Rose writes:
>
> Haha! What gets me is the justification offered by those
> who say they are walking amoung us. "Oh! They do not want
> to upset the delicate balance and equalibrium of our
> society by announcing their presense to us! The world
> isn't ready yet...blah...blah...blah." Nice try. I WANT
> my equalibrium disturbed. I *challenge* them to shock us
> by simply showing up where they cannot be shrugged off as
> passing weather balloons (boy that excuse is getting old,
> isn't it). In my view...we should be demanding this as a
> group, and not be forced to send serious researchers
> running around the globe examining corn crops every time a
> gopher farts. This isn't a GAME! If they really DO exist
> and is not just wishful thinking on our parts, then they
> should stop wasting time and show themselves! Even
> Hollywood is running out of 'Close Encounter' scripts as it
> has all been done already.
>
That's the spirit! Maybe we can just "shame" them out into the
open somehow. Hmm ...
-- John
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From: Don.Ecker@p0.f3.n1012.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Don Ecker)
Subject: ST TNG
Date: 23 Jul 91 23:40:00 GMT
In reference to Star Trek - The Next Generation:
> Linda Bird suggests...
>
> ? RE: Star Trek Episode called 'First Contact'
> ? Ask Don Ecker of 'ASK UFO' what he can find out about where the
> ? writers got their ideas.
>
> Can you help, Don?
I do know two writers with ST-TNG and from what I was told, general UFO
information and speculation on the manner that "first contact" would be
handled was the crux of this segment.
Hope this helps.
Don
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From: Steve.Rose@p1.f134.n109.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Steve Rose)
Subject: Star Trek--The Next Generation
Date: 22 Jul 91 21:04:39 GMT
In a message to ecn.purdue.edu!lush <20 Jul 91 19:31> James Nugent wrote:
JN> I watched that epsiode of Star Trek: The Next Generation. I was
JN> thinking the same thing when I watched it. I think It is just a
JN> further atempt to condition the people for what is to come... A
JN> PUBLIC LANDING OF AN ALIEN RACE.
Gee...I guess there is no account for simple writer's imagination anymore. I
guess now they are mandated to write every script with an ulterior motive. ;-)
ParaNet Alpha-Epsilon
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From: vanth!jms
Subject: ST:TNG -- 'First Contact'
Date: 25 Jul 91 05:36:54 GMT
From: vanth!jms@amix.commodore.com (Jim Shaffer)
Add me to the list of people who were blown away by the resemblance of the
government's reactions in Star Trek to what our own government might be
going through -- the idea that the public isn't ready for it, and all that.
The *really* good part was the line about how even though they're going to
keep it a secret, there would be rumors...
I don't know if anyone on the *current* staff is into UFOlogy, but the
credits used to list 'Creative Consultant: Tracy Torme' and there were
several incidents that could've been interpreted as coming from his hobby.
And then there was the dead giveaway: an episode in which a couple of crew
members had missing time, and discovered that they had been abducted for
genetic engineering purposes by a dieing race!
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Jim Shaffer, Jr. | amix.commodore.com!vanth!jms | alive again.'
37 Brook Street | uunet!cbmvax!amix!vanth!jms |
Montgomery, PA 17752 | 72750.2335@compuserve.com | --Yes
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From: vanth!jms
Subject: Lear
Date: 25 Jul 91 05:37:48 GMT
From: vanth!jms@amix.commodore.com (Jim Shaffer)
To: Felipe Cantu
+back in June in Los Angeles. His posisitomn of late has been rumored
+that things are so far along that 'the screaming will all be over
+before anyting can even be done'. Now he is supposed to have new
+information that may shed a little different light on this matter. This
+is all I know and wondered if anyone else has heard anything.
I haven't heard anything about Lear recently, but I heard that Paul
Bennewitz says that the base under Archuleta Mesa was destroyed a couple
of years ago. The Greys were making cocaine and one of them shot an
officer who was trying to stop them, so Delta Force trashed the place.
So I guess the aliens aren't as invincible as they're supposed to be.
Just for kicks, has anyone heard about the DEA seizing any land in the area
in that time frame? There was supposed to be quite a bit of cocaine left
at the base, and the DEA allegedly controls the entire mountain.
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Jim Shaffer, Jr. | amix.commodore.com!vanth!jms | alive again.'
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From: Don.Ecker@p0.f3.n1012.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Don Ecker)
Subject: New Planet
Date: 25 Jul 91 06:53:00 GMT
Tonite ( July 24, 1991 ) on CNN, it was announce that British Astronomer
Andrew Lyne, using the Gordell Buck radiotelescope in Cheshire, England, UK
discovered the first known planet outside of our solar system.
CNN reported that Lyne stated that the planet was approx. 10 X larger than
Earth, and is in a 6 month orbit around a Pulsar about 30 Light Years from us.
He also was reported as stating that "scientists agree that chances of life
out there are pretty good."
All the above would seem to put additional credence in Sitchen's thesis as it
is now understood. FYI
Don
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From: Clark.Matthews@f4.n1012.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Clark Matthews)
Subject: Re: Hi -where ya been?
Date: 23 Jul 91 18:42:00 GMT
LB>Cheer up! I'll be talking at ya soon.
LB>
Hi Linda! Thanks ... I feel better already! The 9600 CompuCom is a nice
addition, although it can't talk to US Robotics or Hayes 9600 modems because
it's v.29, not v.32/v.32bis. Still it's a boon and it was free (well, not
free, but "payment in kind" for some copywriting I did a while back).
LB>computer now. I'm still working with our 2400 system.
Nothing wrong with 2400! Actually, if you have a 2400 MNP modem, things
will still go faster because I've got MNP4 & MNP5 now.
Nice typing at ya!
Best,
Clark
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From: uiowa.edu!jrblack
Subject: SS433
Date: 25 Jul 91 15:13:46 GMT
From: James Roger Black <jrblack@uiowa.edu>
If anyone is still interested in stellar object SS433, check out the
book 'The Quest for SS433' by David H. Clark. It was published in 1986
under the Adam Hilger imprint by IOP Publishing, Ltd, Techno House,
Redcliffe Way, Bristol BS1 6NX, England.
The book describes the scientific wild-goose chase that resulted in the
identification of SS433 as a binary star of somewhat bizarre, but
neverthless comprehensible, configuration. It not only nails down
SS433 pretty well, but it also gives some insights into how science
really gets done. Things don't always work out the way they're
supposed to, but it's often a lot more interesting that way.
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From: Linda.Bird@f100.n1010.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Linda Bird)
Subject: Re: The Coverup
Date: 24 Jul 91 23:33:00 GMT
Hi Kurt
Regarding the Greys: yu think they are some sort of android. It's
possible. And, perhaps they are some sort of lower life form (from
somewhere) that has been genetically altered in the realm of
intelligence because dipictions of them do not indicate them to be a
higher life form physically (compared to our standards). To me, they
just don't seem to be physically strong enough to build the machines
they fly. They also do not seem to have an opposable thumb. (They
also donn't seem to be wearing any clothes! :-(
Regards,
Linda
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From: Linda.Bird@f100.n1010.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Linda Bird)
Subject: Re: test outgoing
Date: 24 Jul 91 23:40:00 GMT
Hi Michael,
Sounds like you have a busy group up there. There's a lady in
Seattle by the name of Aileen Edwards who runs a group called "UFO
Contactees Center International." Ask your MUFON group what they have
to say about this organization, then post it here, will you? Thanks.
(I'm not trying to flame this lady, just want some info.)
Regards,
Linda Bird
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From: John.Burke@f9.n1012.z9.FIDONET.ORG (John Burke)
Subject: A Good Read
Date: 26 Jul 91 07:00:00 GMT
Check out the August issue of _Atlantic Monthly_ magazine. At
pg. 82 there is a nice article about Dr. Leo Sprinkle's 1991
Rocky Mountain UFO Conference.
It's nice to see "mainstream media" do a story like this: no
snide remarks, no judgmental attitude, no quips about "Billy Bob
and his uncle/brother Joe Bob" being "the only people who see
UFOs". Perhaps times ARE changing!
-- John
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From: ParaNet.Information.Service@p0.f428.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG (sm)
Subject: Crash at the Nevada Test Site
Date: 26 Jul 91 05:59:00 GMT
ParaNet has just learned from our correspondent in Las Vegas, NV that a
helicopter carrying employees of EG&G and Wackenhut Security crashed on the
test site. The reports labeled the crash as "mysterious." Another media
source stated that there was a strange energy burst detected just prior to the
crash at about 9:30 P.M. yesterday. We will update this story as more details
become available.
ParaNet Information Service
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From: ParaNet.Information.Service@p0.f428.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG (sm)
Subject: Gerald Anderson
Date: 26 Jul 91 06:04:00 GMT
ParaNet has talked to Stan Friedman who has reported that Gerald Anderson, the
alleged witness to alien bodies at the Roswell crash, has passed a lie
detector test.
Gerald Anderson claims that he witnessed alien bodies near a crash site in
1947 when he was a little boy. He claims that one of the aliens was alive at
the time. Although there is considerable controversy surrounding Anderson's
story, the polygraph exam is one way in which Friedman is attempting to verify
Anderson's story. There is a diary involved in Friedman's investigation which
shows signs of being altered and may contain what Freidman calls
"disinformation."
We will keep you updated as more information comes in.
ParaNet Information Service
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From: Jim.Greenen@f29.n363.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Jim Greenen)
Subject: GULF BREEZE
Date: 24 Jul 91 16:28:00 GMT
Jim; Sinse you and Jim Speiser both responsed with about the same argument,I
will try to answer you questions as one. You mention that I'm a strong advocate
for GB and that is true. This is a true statement. I try to run my
investigations and life using logic and from all the information that has come
out of GB shows that beyond a reasonable doubt that there are strange craft
visiting this area that are not something known on this earth. I have progress
far beyond the point that if Ed's pictures are real or not. This, from all the
facts that have been presented to all show that is indeed very possible. The
350 other witness, Nippon TV, etc. have back up Ed's claim. The statement that
you made about others not being with Ed at the time is false. My good friend
Jiles Hamilton was giving a lecture at a church when one flew over, 40 people
including Ed saw this object and Ed photograph it. He was the only one that had
a camera at the time. It showed to be a type 2 craft that Ed photograph earlier
in his encounters. You and Jim have both missed the train, while most others
have boarded and have long departed on the other questions as WHO, WHAT, How
and Where,you two are still arguing over if that was the right train or not.
Yes; if you are curious, I am a State Section Director for MUFON and I took
over the job when MUFON ask Willy Smith to step down after his famous statement
to the press. I also spent a few days up in Gulf Breeze during Ed's encounters.
I also had the privilege to meet Mr. Walters and found him to be a sincere and
honest person but this has not swayed my view on GB. I have tried to approach
this whole incident from a logical view and not from Ed's past history or if
MUFON is holding back information. I also wrote a lengthly letter to MUFON on
Bruce's photo analyze and mention that both Rex and Bruce could not make a
accurate determination because there were a lot of information needed that was
missing. I been involved in precision optics for over 30 years and a engineer
for a rather large Aerospace company at the time. My report was not printed or
mention anywhere. No problem with that because I have moved on to better things
as a lot of others have done. We must ALL start working together for the
common cause and not let our personal feelings or ambitions get in the way. I
really don't care if aperson belongs to MUFON, CUFOS or any other organization.
What I'm interestedin is what they have found in their research and
investigations. If this person or organization feels that its needs to keep
some information from us then they must have a good reason for this and I will
have to except it. I do this quite often in my postings on the various echos.
Sorry, but I just won't tell the whole story because of reasons I feel should
not betold. I might add that if you see one of my "what if" posted, look at it
real close because it might have some very important information locked up in
it. One must not forget that Florida is a haven for retired mititary and
others. And if use the philosophy "seek and you will find" then you will find.
BTW, Central Florida is putting on a symposium in August at the Disney World
village. Some of the top researchers in the country will be there,hope you can
make it. Also Orlando will have open to the public the "FirstWorld UFO Museum
and Research Library". This is a great step forward to letting the general
public know what is happening around the world. If you need anymore
information about these two items let me know.
With Regards ---Jim------ RemoteAccess 0.03+
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