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Info-ParaNet Newsletters Volume I Number 448
Saturday, August 10th 1991
Today's Topics:
(none)
How to reach people on fidonet
Goverment & UFO's
Gulf Breeze news
Re: Bennewitz
Re: VISIT
Winchester Crop Circles
A Strange Object/New Circles at the Punchbowl
Alien Spacecraft To Be Displayed? [forwarded From Sci.astro]
Aliens from outer space...
(none)
Belgium Update
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From: ecn.purdue.edu!lush
Subject: (none)
Date: 6 Aug 91 17:42:41 GMT
From: lush@ecn.purdue.edu (Gregory B Lush)
Subject: How to reach people on fidonet
To the following people:
Deane.Ward@p0.f95.n114.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Deane Ward)
John.Feilke@f14.n1010.z9.FIDONET.ORG (John Feilke)
Kurt.Lochner@f22.n14766.z1.FIDONET.ORG
I have tried to send each of you separate private email
over the last month or so and have received no response.
Have you received anything from me? Is there some other
address you can give me?
Thank you.
Greg (lush@ecn.purdue.edu)
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From: Jim.Speiser@f37.n114.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Jim Speiser)
Subject: Goverment & UFO's
Date: 6 Aug 91 17:03:00 GMT
> From what I read of these messages we sure have some informed and
> inteligent
> folks here. Forgive my possible ignorance on this subject but I find it
> easy to believe in the exsistance of UFO's. I find it difficult to
> believe in a goverment cover up of same. I don't see the logic in a
> coverup. I would appriciate hearing some thaughts on this.
Don, my short answer is that I find it just as difficult to believe as you do.
Which is why I am so suprised at the amount of evidence that has been
collected that shows that a cover-up does indeed exist. Please read "Clear
Intent", "Above Top Secret", and of course, "UFO Crash at Roswell".
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From: Jim.Speiser@f37.n114.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Jim Speiser)
Subject: Gulf Breeze news
Date: 6 Aug 91 17:05:00 GMT
>
> In an article in the August 1 Gulf Breeze Sentinel, Vicki Lyons ofMUFON
> wrote that about a dozen people saw the "red light" UFO hovering over the
> Bob Sikes (Three Mile) Bridge at about 9:15 p.m. Friday, July 26.
> The sighting lasted a few minutes, and ended when the UFO brightened to
> white and disappeared.
> Believe it or not, Ed Walters was driving across the bridge at
> approximately that time.
>
> jbh
Somehow, don't ask me how, but yes, I believe whole-heartedly that Ed was
driving across the bridge at approximately that time.
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From: vanth!jms
Subject: Re: Bennewitz
Date: 8 Aug 91 05:33:42 GMT
From: vanth!jms@amix.commodore.com (Jim Shaffer)
To: Linda Bird
Sorry it took so long to get back to you, but I just got your message
yesterday...
+ Bennewitz is the fellow with the Philadephia Experiment, right?
No, you're confusing two men with very bizarre stories whose last names
begin with 'B.' :-) Al Bielek is the one with the outrageous twists on
the Philadelphia Experiment. Dr. Paul Bennewitz is a scientist with a lab
near Kirtland AFB who became concerned about UFOs continually buzzing
government research installations in the area. About the same time, he
became aware of the cattle mutilations, and more particularly of an
abductee who claimed to have witnessed one actually being performed. He
was extremely concerned about all this and wanted the government to know
it. As a result, for reasons known fully only to themselves, the
government started feeding him massive amounts of Lear/Cooper-type
disinformation, all of which he kept feeding back to the government and
anyone else who would listen as the absolute truth. He eventually had to
be hospitalized for a nervous breakdown after things got to the point
where he became unable to sleep for fear of being attacked by the aliens.
He apparently hasn't given up though, because as I said recently he's
issued more stories about the base near Dulce.
+ I think he's going to be in the Phoenix area for a Tim Green Beckley
+conference - is Bennewitz worth paying money to hear speak?
Personally, I'd pay to hear either Bennewitz or Bielek speak, just for an
evening's diversion. I wouldn't believe a word either of them said unless
I had evidence, though.
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From: Michael.Schuyler@f201.n350.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Michael Schuyler)
Subject: Re: VISIT
Date: 7 Aug 91 20:15:00 GMT
*VISIT (VEHICLE INTERNAL SYSTEMS INVESTIGATION TEAM)
This reminds me of when i used to work for one of the Beltway Bandits.
We came across a reference to CANTRAC and felt it necessary to find out
what it meant without asking the Navy, whome we were working for and
for which we were supposedly experts. We sent a librarian to the
closest regional Medical library to track down what kind of "cancer"
acronym this was.
Turned out to be: "Catalog of Naval Training Courses"
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From: Michael.Corbin@p0.f428.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Michael Corbin)
Subject: Winchester Crop Circles
Date: 8 Aug 91 15:30:00 GMT
* Forwarded from "Alt.Alien.Visitors"
* Originally from Robert Trevelyan
* Originally dated 08-07-91 13:32
+From: rob@aixssc.ibm.co.uk (Robert Trevelyan)
Date: 5 Aug 91 18:21:39 GMT
Organization: IBM AIX Systems Support Centre, UK.
Message-ID: <1991Aug05.182139.35565@aixssc.ibm.co.uk>
+Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
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Subject: A Strange Object/New Circles at the Punchbowl
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While driving home from Twyford, Hants on Wednesday evening
along the M3 with my wife we noticed this strange dark object
"flying ?" above us . It was very much a oval/rectangle shape and
seemed to be flying about 45 degrees forward of vertical . This
object had a very bright light at the top and bottom of the view
we could see and these were not flashes but pulsing . This object
gradually gained speed and as it did so the pulsing lights got
faster and faster . Eventually it sped up and was a good five miles
in front of us but still parallel to the M3 and the pulsing light was
still extremely bright . The light seemed to be pulsing and the two
lights seemed to pulse and create a third in the middle of them.
We were also aware of another object pacing it but about half a mile
behind it. This could have been a helicopter as it had a flashing light
but it also had a bright white light coming from underneath it like a
spotlight . Eventually the bright pulsing red light really sped up and
disappeared below the horizon. It was about 9:50 and getting quite dark
but we could make out that the object, what ever it was, was very large.
We live within about 10 miles from RAF Odiham , a Chinook helicopter
base and at first thought it was a Chinook, but dismissed this as even
one of these that low would be heard over the road noise. It was
probably twice the size of a Chinook and had totally different lights
underneath it and these were far too bright and were pulsing.
All very strange ....
The weird part of the story is that after this light had disappeared
my wife joked that it was probably on its way home from creating a
crop circle in the Punch Bowl .
Well, curiosity took over and last evening we went down to Cheesefoot
Head to see if anything had appeared and to our amazement there is
a formation in the Punch Bowl. This formation a basically a 2 or 3
ringed circle with a tail and is near the edge on the left . We saw
it about 10 pm last evening and as it was nearly dark details of
the formation were quite sketchy . It could be a hoax as it is near
the edge for easy access and its tail or spur looked rough . I will
probably go back down there over the weekend and check this out .
If it is for real I wonder if it is tied up with the pulsing light ?
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I re-visited the Punch Bowl on Friday night and the formation
looks a genuine one. It is basically a "insectogram" head and
antennae . The head is two rings with very large curving paths
coming from it with smaller circles at the end .
Also Thursday night a new formation appeared by the very first
formation at Chilcomb . This is difficult to see from the road but
looks similar to the original one but larger . Friday night it had
been swamped with people and is now probably very trampled.
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Subject: Alien Spacecraft To Be Displayed? [forwarded From Sci.astro]
Date: 8 Aug 91 15:53:00 GMT
* Forwarded from "Misc.Headlines"
* Originally from Daniel Fischer
* Originally dated 08-06-91 12:11
+From: p515dfi@mpirbn.mpifr-bonn.mpg.de (Daniel Fischer)
Date: 6 Aug 91 11:15:42 GMT
Organization: Max-Planck-Institut fuer Radioastronomie, Bonn
Message-ID: <2172@mpirbn.mpifr-bonn.mpg.de>
+Newsgroups: sci.skeptic,misc.headlines,sunyab.flotsam
+From: huw@spls5.ccs.mt.nec.co.jp (Huw Jonathan Rogers)
+Newsgroups: sci.astro
+Subject: Aliens from outer space...
Message-ID: <9108050414.AA08074@spls5.ccs.mt.nec.co.jp>
Date: 5 Aug 91 04:14:01 GMT
Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU
Organization: Murder Inc.
I recently heard a Radio One program in the UK that contained
an interview with a leading proponent of the popular "US Government has
aliens locked up and is experimenting with their spaceplanes" conspiracy
theory. However this particular individual sounded very reasonable, did
not make any outrageous claims, and further had some interesting facts
to disclose. In particular he mentioned several verifiable facts which
I would like some followup on:
Rockwell International and NASA were planning a *massive*
joint exhibition of space exploration this year (1991) but it was delayed
inexplicably until 1992. In the *official* prospectus for this exhibition,
one of the exhibits was clearly stated to be "an extraterrestrial space
craft". When asked about this by various individuals, all enquiries
were referred by NASA to the US DoD. An unnamed Pentagon spokesman speaking
off the record is meant to have indicated that they "had a number of such
vehicles to choose from..."
The Pentagon also held a press conference to deal with press
inquiries on this matter - and refused to answer any questions. In fact
reporters later said that the Pentagon had asked most of the questions,
and they all pertained to "what would be the public reaction if...".
The guy on the radio program referred extensively to two NASA
consultant engineers who claimed to have worked on alien spacecraft
studying propulsion systems for NASA - both had high level security
clearance in the States, were verifiably employed by NASA as senior
consultant engineers, and both were phoned in the States by the station
in a followup program (which I missed) the next day. The followup program
incidentally was only scheduled at the last minute due to record phone
calls from the public swamping Radio 1's 64 line switchboard...
He also claimed that a NSA official had told him off the record
that the NSA was in "electronic communication" with at least eight
extraterrestrial sources of intelligent communication...
He claimed that he possessed a recording of a telephone conversation
with an ex deputy director of the CIA (Casey's deputy as I recall), who
said that they (the CIA) had possession of quite a few alien artefacts,
including bodies, spacecraft and other miscellaneous bits and pieces.
He also verified on tape claims that several alien landings at US AFBs had
occured in the past, and in some cases were common knowledge amongst certain
groups of AFB personnel: "Hear what came in this morning, Joe?"...
Various farmers in a certain area of the US (I forget the state
that was mentioned) regularly discovered bloodless (drained) cattle in
various stages of dismemberment in the early morning. These animals had
had certain glands, body parts, or body fluids surgically removed with a
precision beyond the capabilities of all but the most advanced surgical
laboratories. This problem was so bad that in one place a farmer was in
danger of going bust due to loss of cattle. One explanation advanced was that
aliens were using these cattle as a convenient source of various rare
chemicals/tissues.
The technology in the latest black projects that have progressed
to flight hardware - Aurora, Strike, etc. - seems to be well beyond the
capabilities of current commercial (defense/aerospace) technology. In
particular ablative control surfaces and reliable flight control at speeds
in excess of Mach 4 are characteristics of such craft, sightings of which
are widespread in Nevada along with reliable evidence (supersonic boom
disruption?) of such speeds.
Any comments/hard info. on any of these assertions would be
much appreciated - please post as I am sure others are interested too.
-Huw
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From: Michael.Corbin@p0.f428.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Michael Corbin)
Subject: (none)
Date: 8 Aug 91 16:01:00 GMT
> From: ecn.purdue.edu!lush
> Date: 6 Aug 91 17:42:41 GMT
> Message-ID: <13704@scicom.AlphaCDC.COM>
> Newsgroups: info.paranet
>
> From: lush@ecn.purdue.edu (Gregory B Lush)
> Subject: How to reach people on fidonet
>
> To the following people:
>
> Deane.Ward@p0.f95.n114.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Deane Ward)
>
> John.Feilke@f14.n1010.z9.FIDONET.ORG (John Feilke)
>
> Kurt.Lochner@f22.n14766.z1.FIDONET.ORG
>
> I have tried to send each of you separate private email
> over the last month or so and have received no response.
> Have you received anything from me? Is there some other
> address you can give me?
Direct your traffic to:
Name of sysop@paranet.org
My mailer forwards the mail to these sites.
Mike
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THE BELGIAN SIGHTINGS
by Auguste Meessen
- - Auguste Meessen is professor of physics at the Catholic
University of Louvain. This article, which first appeared in the
November 1990 issue of Inforespace, is reprinted by permission.
It was translated by Andrea Donderi, Mark Rodeghier, and W. D.
Milner.
=================================================================
The sightings that occurred in Belgium between November 1989
and June 1990 have given us an impressive body of new data. We
have even been able to study in detail material from both
military and civilian ground radar screens. Moreover, an in-depth
examination of on-board radar data from one of the F-16s sent up
by the Belgian Air Force during the night of March 30-31, 1990,
is currently under way. As far as I know, this is the first such
opportunity in the world, but much remains to be done. I shall
therefore only give an overview of this research. I shall outline
what we are doing and briefly describe our methods.
I shall also include some remarks on the unwarranted
generalizations that are still too frequently encountered (from
skeptics) and on the reactions of eyewitnesses in the current
socio-psychological climate in European ufology. Finally, I shall
present a few reports of sightings made in Belgium and abroad.
One case in particular, the enormous lozenge-shaped object that
flew over the outskirts of the town of Eupen on December 1, 1989,
is representative of the quality and importance of the new
information. In assessing reports it is important to be aware of
what has been happening in other countries, so I shall include a
few foreign cases that suggest the wave of sightings may not be
over.
Ground investigations
At the beginning of December 1989 I joined the SOBEPS
(Societe Belge d'Etude des Phenomenes Spatiaux) investigation. It
was vital to familiarize myself personally with the number and
quality of the eyewitness reports. I concentrated almost
exclusively on the Eupen region, of which I am a native. I hoped
that my fluency in German and my profession as a physicist would
help loosen people's tongues. I have noted that many
eyewitnesses, and particularly the most reliable ones with
important social responsibilities, are reluctant to discuss what
they have seen because of irrational socio-psychological
pressures.
The evening of November 29, 1989, was decisive, because two
Eupen police officers had the courage to describe on television
the UFO they had painstakingly observed. There were several other
sightings that same day. I shall be compiling a list of them in
the book that SOBEPS is planning to publish. I have discovered a
series of eyewitness accounts that form a coherent sequence in
time and space that day. The sightings made by Mr. J (more on
which later) provide one example of what can be learned from
these witnesses. In my opinion, data of these kinds, when taken
together with the whole body of sightings worldwide, pose a
challenge to the scientific community and to every thoughtful
person.
Journalists have had an especially important role. Some of
them have performed their work conscientiously, but others were
simply seeking sensational stories. Yet more felt obliged to lead
a personal crusade against the gathering of eyewitness reports. I
will cite just one example whose immediate effects I observed.
A few days after December 18, 1989, a gendarme in the Eupen
area refused to tell me what he had seen, probably because on
that date a local daily paper had published an article which
asserted that the "most plausible explanation" for UFO sightings
was that the U. S. Air Force was secretly testing F-117A planes
over Belgium. This article was preceded by the impressive
headline "Explanation from Washington," and the subheading
referred to a "hysteria" of UFO sightings. I was sent a copy of
this paper the same day and immediately inquired into the matter,
since these stories also form an aspect of the UFO phenomenon.
It turned out that the "explanation" was only speculation,
put forward by the Flemish paper Het Laatste Nieuws. I phoned the
journalist who wrote the article that triggered off a rumor which
is still causing much ink to be spilt. He explained that he had
just read an article on the F-117A and wished to pass on such
information to his readers. To make his article more interesting,
he had suggested (gratuitously, with no reference to the actual
sightings) that there might be a possible connection with recent
sightings in Belgium. In the meantime, I had learned from Lt.
Col. De Brouwer, Chief of Operations of the Belgian Air Force,
that the Air Force had sought information from the American
Embassy to help them explain the reports. This should not have
been necessary if the sightings were caused by secret exercises,
as De Brouwer routinely would have been informed of any such
overflights. Instead, he took the trouble to secure accurate
information about what the many Belgian eyewitnesses had really
seen.
Learning that an official American disclaimer was to be
published, I telephoned the Eupen journalist to tell him the news
and to ask him to publish a correction as soon as possible. When
I asked him why he had spoken of "an explanation from Washington"
and characterized the eyewitness accounts of local people as
"hysterical " he responded, "I am against all that." I appreciate
his candor, but that does not square with the regard for
objectivity one expects of journalists. Such attitudes constitute
disinformation and serve to dissuade eyewitnesses; they make the
search for truth more difficult.
The search for more objective information
Having convinced myself of the reality and importance of the
wave of UFO sightings in our country, I concluded that it would
have been scientifically irresponsible to ignore this wave
without trying to find out what had turned up on our country's
radar screens. I did not know how to gain access to the data, but
I felt that reason would eventually prevail. Since early December
1989 I had been in contact with Lt. Col. De Brouwer at the
Headquarters of the Belgian Air Force, requesting that any radar
documentation be preserved for a thorough scientific study.
Shortly afterwards I sent a similar written request to Guy Coeme,
Minister of National Defense.
I also met the head of the air traffic control at Zaventem,
the Brussels airport. I learned that he and his associates
preserve recordings of radar data for several weeks on magnetic
tape in the event of any inquiries relating to air safety. I
therefore addressed a written request to Mr. Vandenbroucke, the
General Manager of the Airlines Administration, for permission to
videotape certain excerpts. These would be restricted to
sequences selected on the basis of the number of fairly close-
range and reliable UFO sightings. The goal was to verify whether
there had been any suspicious radar traces before or after the
sighting times, given that the UFOs were doubtless below the
radar coverage at the time of very low-altitude sightings.
Although the response was delayed, a call to Vanenbroucke
brought immediate cooperation. I convey my warm thanks to him and
to the Chief Engineer and the technical radar personnel of our
national airport for their effective support, which proved
useful. In consequence I have been able to film and analyze more
than 180 hours of data from the Bertem radar installation, which
serves Zaventem airport. In brief, two surprising and significant
discoveries emerged from this material. I shall describe them
later. One of these discoveries concerned the fact that echoes of
unidentified origin often moved along linear trajectories of
limited length. This perplexed me. I continued to collect as many
data as possible, refusing to adopt any particular hypothesis.
Furthermore, it was vital to analyze these data quickly so that I
could assimilate their essential characteristics and determine
what was worth studying more closely. In fact, I was involved in
a race against time, since the magnetic tapes were retained only
for a few weeks. Any potentially important material that I failed
to save would be lost forever.
I also hoped to gain access to the military radar
documentation, although I knew this would be more difficult. An
increasingly close and productive collaboration had developed
with Lt. Col. De Brouwer and with Lt. Col. Billen, Chief of the
Glons radar installation. They shared my profound conviction that
an in-depth study was required, both to understand better the UFO
phenomenon and to elucidate the mysterious phenomenon that I had
discovered, probably of atmospheric origin.
During this stage of the investigation an important event
occurred. I knew that the Belgian Air Force planned to scramble
F-16 fighters in cases where UFO sightings were reported by
reliable eyewitnesses with additional confirmation by other
evidence. These conditions seemed to have been met during the
night of March 30-31, 1990. Although I was notified at an early
stage, I had to wait for the Air Force's preliminary evaluation
of the data before learning anything more.
For my part, I kept Lt. Col. De Brouwer informed about my
research on the data from the Bertem radar. He saw the benefit of
checking these data against those from the military radar at
Semmerzake. I was accordingly authorized to go there and obtain
extracts from these tapes. The information regarding the events
of the night of March 30-31 remained inaccessible since an Air
Force investigation was underway, but we were making progress all
the same. The Semmerzake data were more accurate and detailed
than those I already had.
Consequently, I was able to compare the data from the
Semmerzake military radar with those from the Bertem civil radar,
whose echoes are instantaneously transmitted to Semmerzake. They
are subject to even less filtering than on the air
controllers' screens at Zaventem airport. I could thus establish
the coordinates and other characteristics of each individual
echo. The analysis was laborious but made it possible to
decisively confirm the preliminary conclusions drawn from the
video films taken at Zaventem.
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