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Info-ParaNet Newsletters Volume I Number 444
Thursday, August 1st 1991
Today's Topics:
RE: New Planet
(none)
Sightings near Pittsburgh
Re: Star Trek--The Next Generation
Re: JOHN LEAR'S NEW HYPOTHESIS
Re: New Planet
Crop circle: Wiltshire,UK
The Coverup
Re: Hi -where ya been?
ST:TNG -- 'First Contact'
Re: GULF BREEZE
Re: Lear
Hoax Circles (reply to Gregory Lush)
Bennewitz
miscellaneous
Re: Hi -where ya been?
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From: ucs.usl.edu!pgwres01
Subject: RE: New Planet
Date: 28 Jul 91 21:40:18 GMT
From: Fraering Philip G <pgwres01@ucs.usl.edu>
Two notes about the new planet: it is not the first planet ever
discovered outside our solar system (a Canadian group using radial
spactroscopy has 'seen' some, although the method used seems to
see large close-in planets like Jupiter more readily than
earthlike planets), and it might not be a planet: the 10 earth
masses may just be a lower limit.
Phil Fraering
dmb8516@bss.usl.edu
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From: ecn.purdue.edu!lush
Subject: (none)
Date: 28 Jul 91 21:40:45 GMT
From: lush@ecn.purdue.edu (Gregory B Lush)
Subject: Sightings near Pittsburgh
I heard from a friend who heard from his mother that there
have been regular sightings of a UFO in a suburb of
Pittsburgh. Apparently this is not just a light like
the present Gulf Breeze sightings, but rather people can
actually see the outline of a ship. Further, people are
travelling to see it since it makes frequent appearances.
Anybody out in the Pittsburgh area? Anybody hear about this?
Greg (lush@ecn.purdue.edu)
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From: James.Nugent@f14.n1010.z9.FIDONET.ORG (James Nugent)
Subject: Re: Star Trek--The Next Generation
Date: 26 Jul 91 02:29:00 GMT
You never know!!!!!!!
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From: John.Hrusovszky@f300.n238.z1.FIDONET.ORG (John Hrusovszky)
Subject: Re: JOHN LEAR'S NEW HYPOTHESIS
Date: 27 Jul 91 07:25:50 GMT
FC> Does anyone out there know if John Lear's new hypothesis is posted on
FC> any boards around the U.S. , or know any information about it. This is
FC> supposed to be some of what he shared at the West Coast UFO Conference
FC> back in June in Los Angeles. His posisitomn of late has been rumored
FC> that things are so far along that "the screaming will all be over
FC> before anyting can even be done". Now he is supposed to have new
FC> information that may shed a little different light on this matter. Thi
FC> is all I know and wondered if anyone else has heard anything.
I, for one, would love to hear what he has to say this time. Does
anyone have any information or text files on this?
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From: Danny.Brandenburg@p0.f1.n606.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Danny Brandenburg)
Subject: Re: New Planet
Date: 28 Jul 91 09:27:25 GMT
There is a problem if the discoverer of the planet claims that
scientists agree there is a good chance for life existing on the newly
discovered planet. Most obvious to me is that "life as we know it"
could not be sustained on a planet orbiting a pulsar (neutron star).
Another problem with the planet (not an arguement against life
there) is that it should not even be there. If there star is truly a
neutron star, it should have went through a supernova stage. While in
super nova, it should have either destroyed the orbiting planet or made
its orbit incredibly elliptical. However, the scientists say that the
planet has a normal near circular orbit. There still may be processes
to be investigated.
Danny Brandenburg
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From: Don.Allen@f29.n363.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Don Allen)
Subject: Crop circle: Wiltshire,UK
Date: 27 Jul 91 09:19:06 GMT
Latest Crop circle news off the Internet:
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Article 1012 of alt.alien.visitors:
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
Subject: Wiltshire Pictograms
Date: 23 Jul 91 10:09:42 GMT
Sender: rob@aixssc.ibm.co.uk (Robert Trevelyan)
Organization: IBM AIX Systems Support Centre, UK.
Lines: 39
The last few weeks have been very busy for crop circles in
Wiltshire.I took a trip around the key sites and could see about nine
formations varying from dumb-bells , insectograms and pictograms .
Just south of Stonehenge two insectograms and a circle lie in a field.
The insectograms are very large and are of the normal ring , circle ,
path and arc type seen at Upham near Winchester . The circle is a ringed
type with curved spurs .This is obviously near a great deal of tumuli
and the ancient monument where there are a great deal of lay lines that
I am sure cross the field .
In Alton Barnes , site of last years massive pictogram , there
are three formations . Two of these show the "key" symbol as seen last
year and the third is a variation of a circle . Two of these are in one
field and the other one in a field that faces this one but all three are
within about half a mile of each other and can be seen all at once .
Malborough Downs have about four formations , some very large pictograms
and a dumb-bell as well as a ringed circle with two circles inside touching
and looking as a figure of eight .
The main formation is at Barbury Castle nearby and appeared at
between 9pm on 16-07-91 and 9am on 17-07-91 according to a local pilot .
At the time of its arrival dramatic sightings of pulsing coloured lights
were made in the area and two witnesses reported seeing a dark object
which flew rapidly overhead blotting out the starlight . Everyone who has
seen this are sure it is genuine apart from Terence Meaden , possibly as
it is a combination of rings, triangles and circles , not explainable by
an atmospheric vortex .
I have not seen this yet but will hopefully have some more details on this
later .
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From: Steve.Rose@p1.f134.n109.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Steve Rose)
Subject: The Coverup
Date: 26 Jul 91 16:22:00 GMT
>> In my view...we should be demanding this as a
>> group, and not be forced to send serious researchers
>> running around the globe examining corn crops every time a
>> gopher farts. This isn't a GAME! If they really DO exist
>> and is not just wishful thinking on our parts, then they
>> should stop wasting time and show themselves!
JB> That's the spirit! Maybe we can just "shame" them out into the open
Absolutely! Though that may sound humorous...I find nothing funny about having
researchers scurrying about like rats after the cheese, being nothing more than
glorified accident investigators. If all we are finding out there is straw
figures...then let's stop wasting our time. If one wants to believe 'greys'
can never be spotted or trapped in the open, then let's just admit defeat now
and let THEM decide when and where to meet (if ever). After all, THEY are the
'superior' ones, right? How can we ever hope to win??
Sure, we can continue tying up valuable resources while never having an actual
provable encounter in our lifetime(s). We can also continue searching for
exciting historical trinkets such as Noah's Ark or the Holy Grail. But those
are simply OBJECTS (if they truly exist) people! What we are talking here is a
supposed RACE of beings with obvious intelligence, and look at the way *they*
are playing with *us*. We run around screaming, "Coverup!" at the government..
"Liars!" at the media...and "Fraud!" at those who claim to have been witnesses.
All the time...everthing remains status quo...AFU!
We play accusatory games that would make historical witch hunting an art form.
In fact...I challenge those who do this, to prove that they are playing
nothing more than modern day witch hunters with white lab coats. Only
difference I see, is that some may actually BELIEVE there are greys out there
waiting to be discovered. To others...its a nice diversion from daily life,
such as any hobby would be. Some make it their business to exploit. Still
more just pay lip service to the existence of UFOs. In the end...the greys
remain safely 'out there', while we sit wiping the egg off again, and again as
each new investigation reveals nothing they haven't covered up.
No, this is not an attack against those who are sincere in their research
efforts. Such individuals are scorned and ridiculed enough as it is. This is
a scathing open message to the 'greys', themselves. Yes, I say to the Greys
who are reading this. You ARE intelligent life forms...right? You do want to
keep in touch with the pulse of the human's UFO research which is you lurk on
ParaNet echos...right? Well then, Mr. Grey:
STOP SQUASHING WHEAT FIELDS AND MULTILATING CATTLE! WE ARE NO LONGER IMPRESSED
WITH SUCH CIRCUS TRICKS! WE DO NOT CARE TO BE MEDICAL SUBJECTS BECAUSE YOUR
PHYSICIANS CAN'T CURE THE COMMON COLD ANYMORE THAN OURS CAN! STOP TRYING TO BE
OUR MODERN DAY SAVIOR! STOP TRYING TO MAKE GULF BREEZE ANYTHING MORE THAN THE
SAD SEASONAL VACATION SPOT IT TRIES TO BE. SHOW YOUR SCALEY FACES AND PROVE
ONCE AND FOR ALL YOU ARE NOT JUST MYTH OR WISHFUL THINKING ON OUR PARTS! GIVE
US MUCH MORE THAN FALSE HOPE, SCORCHED EARTH AND BLURRED PHOTOGRAPHS! TELL US
WHAT YOU WANT AND STOP JERKING OUR CHAIN!
Any takers? ;-)
\\ParaNet(sm) Alpha-Epsilon
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From: Steve.Rose@f134.n109.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Steve Rose)
Subject: Re: Hi -where ya been?
Date: 28 Jul 91 11:20:00 GMT
Hello Clark!
CM> Hi Linda! Thanks ... I feel better already! The 9600 CompuCom is a
CM> nice addition, although it can't talk to US Robotics or Hayes 9600
CM> modems because it's v.29, not v.32/v.32bis.
Well, those who want to consider a new CCom are now in luck. Although the
older v.29 models won't talk high speed to those others...there are a new
selection of V.32/V.32bis models coming out at the end of August. Sysop
pricing will make these CCITT compadible units very competitive. Hope to
check one out, soon. Now...back to... :-)
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From: Steve.Rose@f134.n109.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Steve Rose)
Subject: ST:TNG -- 'First Contact'
Date: 28 Jul 91 11:27:00 GMT
vcc> Add me to the list of people who were blown away by the resemblance of
vcc> the government's reactions in Star Trek to what our own government
vcc> might be going through -- the idea that the public isn't ready for it,
vcc> and all that. The *really* good part was the line about how even
vcc> though they're going to keep it a secret, there would be rumors...
So I gather the idea of Star Trek being pure science fiction doesn't wash with
anybody anymore? My...how we love to live out our fantasies. ;-)
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From: Jim.Delton@f100.n1010.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Jim Delton)
Subject: Re: GULF BREEZE
Date: 28 Jul 91 23:21:00 GMT
Well, if I may be forgiven for saying so, I've heard that song before.
If events, such as have transpired at GB were sufficent proof of
anything, this mystery would have been solved many many years ago. The
sad fact is that GB is not significantly different from any number of
other "breakthrough" cases over the last 40 or so years. And the case
is not made stronger by adopting a posture of if "..they need to keep
some information from us they must have a good reason.." as if the
"good reason" could not be to keep the whole charade from crashing.
So there are 350 supposed witnesses. Would it matter if there were
3000 if everything else was the same? There probably ARE witnesses in
the thousands to the Hudson Valley UFO! It should be obvious by now
that counting witnesses is not getting us anywheres, nor is displaying
photo's taken by questionable characters who want to maintain certain
area's of secrecy.
After all is said and done concerning the GB case, after all the
effort that has gone into it, where are we?? There is not even
agreement on the veracity of the primary witness!!!! And yet we would
expect the general public to accept the case as "proof" of
something???? Where are we now, that we weren't 12 or 24 months ago???
Are we more knowledgeable about what UFO's are? Or where they come
from??? Or where we can expect to find the next wave?? Or how the
military responds to OUR actions??
Or to look at it from the opposite side, If there had been no GB,
what would have been the "loss" to the field of UFOlogy?? Would we
know less?? Would "our" credibility been higher or lower??
It is not that I think there is anything wrong with investigation of
GB or any other case, but when people seem to develop emotional
attachments to "cases" it seems that objectivity goes out the window
and we wind up with "investigators" acting more like PR fronts then
anything else because now they have an "investment" to defend.
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From: Linda.Bird@f100.n1010.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Linda Bird)
Subject: Re: Lear
Date: 29 Jul 91 05:14:00 GMT
Hello Jim,
Yes, it was you after all who asked for a person to look at the
Face of Mars, etc. I don't how to "netmail" so perhaps we could talk
on the phone?
I'm in the Mesa, AZ phone book (on Sunview) and you can call me
collect anytime on Monday, July 29th.
Best regards,
Linda
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From: mrc-crc.ac.uk!sgamble
Subject: Hoax Circles (reply to Gregory Lush)
Date: 29 Jul 91 23:36:22 GMT
From: Steve Gamble x3293 <sgamble@mrc-crc.ac.uk>
In reply to your question how to detect hoax circles :
I do it by being told by Paul Fuller, Richard Andrews and Busty Taylor
who do actual field investigation of circles! (My circles experience is
(at this point) strictly attending meetings, speaking to people and
examining reports).
Seriously, I believe that the way a circle is clasified as a hoax is
that :
a) often the cereal is damaged rather than being softly laid
over
b) the circles do not have the sharp cut-off at the edge
c) the hoaxes do not have 'smooth' edges, they are saw-toothed
More controversially Richard dowses circles. The ones which show the
above characteristics do not give an dowsable effect, whereas the
ones which do not show the effects a to c generally do show some
dowsable response. Richard's work is just extra evidence rather than
the diagnostic criteria.
Because the hoax circles take a relatively long time to make (2 to 3
hours or more) there are a few reports of people being seen doing it.
In other cases there are other silly little things like the circle
which had the message 'We are not alone' carvered in the cereal next
to it (surely if it was done by the Greys, or the Greens or whoever
they would write 'YOU are not alone' anyway).
STEVE
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From: vanth!jms
Subject: Bennewitz
Date: 30 Jul 91 05:36:16 GMT
From: vanth!jms@amix.commodore.com (Jim Shaffer)
To: Linda Bird
+Be honest--could it really be possible for there to be a base of Grays
+who are making cocaine? If so, who are they really making it for? The
+people who seems to be into cocaine are mostly 'airheads' and "low-
+lifers.' (Not that I don't feel sorry for them.) BUT, it seems to me
+that rather than corrupting THOSE people, what about us UFO-watchers
+and people who 'watch-dog' the UFO movement? Why aren't they tempting
+US with some kind of substance that would render us ineffective? Do
+you see my point??
I don't believe Bennewitz's new story, I just posted it because someone
said that Lear had changed his outlook on the situation and I thought maybe
something like that was why.
The cocaine was most likely to raise money to keep expanding the bases.
Remember that they're supposedly partly owned by the U.S. even though we
all know it's the aliens who are fully in control (or so we thought
until...) Also keep in mind the stories of plans to depopulate the planet
through drugs and AIDS. (I don't believe any of it, but you asked...)
As for corrupting the UFOlogical community with 'some kind of substance
that would render us ineffective', how about *disinformation*? Bennewitz
certainly got hooked on it, and look what state it's left him in!
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From: vanth!jms
Subject: miscellaneous
Date: 30 Jul 91 05:37:25 GMT
From: vanth!jms@amix.commodore.com (Jim Shaffer)
Gene Gross: Your theory about the Greys being some type of insect is just
about the most sensible thing I've heard yet. People have been saying that
they look a little like praying mantises, but the worker bee analogy is
even better.
Michael Corbin: Please post any further Usenet discussion of the alleged
signals detected in Australia. I hadn't heard anything in the media, and I
don't get sci.astro (right now my feed is having trouble and I'm not
getting anything as a matter of fact.)
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From: Clark.Matthews@f4.n1012.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Clark Matthews)
Subject: Re: Hi -where ya been?
Date: 29 Jul 91 20:22:00 GMT
LB>be cheaper. A new computer always seems to cheer a person
LB>up. I have a color monitor now, and LOVE it.
Hi Linda! You'll get a kick out of the ANSI graphics & stuff. It's rather
nice in color (if I *do* say so myself...)
Best,
Clark
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