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Info-ParaNet Newsletters Volume 1 Number 428
Info-ParaNet Newsletters Volume I Number 428
Thursday, June 20th 1991
Today's Topics:
Flying Saucer
Roswell & 'a Closer Look'
Alien Abduction Countermeasures
Randle & Schmitt
Re: Communion, the movie.
Re: feeling?
Abductions
Abductions
Russian "octopus"
Roswell
Debunk Stops here
Re: Ufo Images Redux
Re: Crop Circles
Cufos Roswell Special Report
Randle & Schmitt
Abductions
Abductions
Russian "octopus"
Debunk Stops here
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From: Michael.Corbin@p0.f428.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Michael Corbin)
Subject: Flying Saucer
Date: 18 Jun 91 06:34:00 GMT
* Originally from Nancy Ward
* Originally dated 06-16-91 22:27
In my mailbox today was:
Randall's Times
A Commemorative Newspaper in Celebration of Randall's Silver Anniversary
June 12, 1966
This paper was included with a mailout section of the Houston Chronicle.
I thought the following article would be of interest:
FLYING SAUCER OVER FREEPORT REPORTED
A flying saucer was reported seen in Freeport early last Sunday morning.
The sighting was coincident with the repeated sightings in Michigan
witnessed by several dozen people.
At 11:00 PM last Saturday, Paul Leonard, a radioman third class aboard
the Coast Guard Cutter Legare, reported there was a power failure in at
least part of Freeport (Texas), which affected the Coast Guard station
and the Legare. On occasion, flying saucers have been reported to have
stalled automobiles temporarily, presumably by affecting in some way
their electrical systems.
Two hours later, at 1:25 AM Sunday, Leonard was standing watch and his
attention was attracted by the lights in two homes nearby blinking on
and off rapidly, the report said. Leonard took out his binocculars to
get a better look and spotted a very large and oval shaped unidentified
flying object overhead.
Leonard claimed, "I could make it out very clearly. It had its
windows open and I ccould see inside of it, but it was hazy inside and I
thought I ccould see something moving around. It was an orange objecct
or something fiving off an orange glow.
Then it started to move up slowly. After it got about 1000 feed up,
it gav off a blue gglow and then disappeared," he said.
Leonard also stated that, "Shortly afterwards, two very bright objects
shot up from the ground, and in a matter of seconds they were out of
sight."
Another unconfirmed sighting by a crew member on the Legare was said
to have seen the same two objects shoot up into the sky and disappear.
End of article.
It's not often we see an old article on a UFO printed, so I thought you
all might be interested.
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From: Michael.Corbin@p0.f428.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Michael Corbin)
Subject: Roswell & 'a Closer Look'
Date: 18 Jun 91 06:43:00 GMT
> From: wmartin@stl-06sima.army.mil (Will Martin)
> Date: 17 Jun 91 15:53:22 GMT
> Message-ID: <12811@scicom.AlphaCDC.COM>
> Newsgroups: info.paranet
>
The program, in my estimation, was a travesty. The part that you missed
featured Faith Daniels, the moderator, questioning Kevin Randle. When he was
describing the results of the investigation, she almost laughed at Randle's
statement about the government having a crashed saucer and alien bodies.
Randle did recover the ground, however and the rest of the program went fairly
well. The problem is that any type of major media coverage (ABC, NBC, CBS,
etc.) seems to be the same old thing. Faith was way out of her league on this
one, and one cannot help but feel that it was made to be this way. She should
stick to feminine hygiene spray and reading the news on Good Morning America,
not serious UFO research.
Mike
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From: ncar!cwns2.INS.CWRU.Edu!aa245
Subject: Alien Abduction Countermeasures
Date: 19 Jun 91 01:34:08 GMT
From: aa245@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Robert Parish)
Alien Abduction Countermeasures
Part 1
They come in the middle of the night with stealth. They pray
on the frailties of human kind, our need for sleep and rest.
Using technology light years ahead of us and mental intellects
of Intelligent Quotas to our standards would read in the
hundreds, they think they have card blanch, a blank check to do
whatever to whom ever they want. It is time to put a kink in
their male of chain (their use of technology and our lack of use
of it) and a dent in their smug armor of intellectual
superiority (their planning abilities and our lack of
forethought).
We as a whole, We the People of the American Public depend on
our government and our military to protect us from an Alien
Hostile Threat. That has meant, from invasion of our country by
a
foreign power and that has meant people of earth who are from
another country on earth who cross our borders to do us harm.
But what about Aliens not from another country on earth but from
another planet in another solar system many light years away or
as some think are from another space time continuum that invade
our space, (our placing of being at) at will? Now we may have
another definition of Alien Threat, Aliens that cross our space,
not our borders!
Some people who have spent years in the new field of Ufology,
the study of UFO's and UFO reports, speak of government cover up
and that our space (place of being) our earth, country and even
our homes where we live have been invaded by Aliens not of this
earth. Some reports have been made by people who say that our
government is well aware of not of earth Alien Abductions of our
fellow citizens of our country and of people abroad. Their are
some reports circulating in Ufology Files on Electronic Bulletin
Board Systems that not only that our government knows that this
going on, but a deal of some kind has been struck between our
government and the Aliens to not interfere as long as they
provide a list of who they have abducted. Their are also reports
that the Aliens have not kept their word with reporting who has
been abducted and that our government is really powerless to
make them keep it! If there is something of this nature going
on, you can trust our government not to let it out.
Many of these reports of abduction state that the victim
person/s taken are only taken for a short time. Sometimes only
minutes or for few short hours. All memory the (EVENT) is erased
from the subject victims memory to the point that they are not
aware that anything out of normal ever happened to them. Some by
chance of some quirk, have nagging strange nightmares that begin
to trigger flash back memory recall of the terrifying (EVENT) of
abduction by Aliens. Some after hypnotic regression, report that
they have had many of these (EVENTS) of abduction by Aliens and
others only a few or only once that they are now aware of. There
are some Ufology Researchers that state that as many as 1 out
every 10 of the American Public may have been abducted or will
be abducted at some point of time.
The only way to prove or to disprove these claims is to by
scientific means install Alien Abduction Countermeasures. Now,
if we are powerless to stop them, we might at least be able to
install methods of apparatus to record or to indicate that the
(EVENT) of Alien Abduction has occurred. We can devise
scientific methods of detection of an Alien presence and
incorporate into that design a method of recording that (EVENT)
as to the date and time of the (EVENT). By doing so, we will at
least be able to ascertain that at such and such date, time, an
unusual out the ordinary, not normal (EVENT) has occurred.
We can not depend on our government to take effective
countermeasures against Alien Abductions. First we must prove or
disprove that what we think is happening is a reality. To do
that, we must conduct a scientific study. For the Aliens to
physically be here to cause any physical effect we can only
assume that they must obey the laws of physics as we know them.
Based on that primes, we can devise methods of detection and
recording (EVENTS) of abnormality and attribute them to an Alien
presence because an alien or abnormal (EVENT) has occurred.
To do this we can utilize existing electronic apparatus,
namely, common off the self devices modified slightly to suit
our purpose. These items do not have be very complexed or
expensive. For one as an example, a magnetic disturbance (EVENT)
indicator/recorder can be constructed using simple normally open
switch doorlight switch auto alarm with the negative ground of
the switching connector wire ran to a series of small diameter
wire loops. Then run the positive connector of the switching
wire to an equal number small bare wires suspending strong
magnets with the bare wire passing up thru the small loops. Then
connect the alarm relay to an electric date time alarm clock so
that it switch it off when the bare wire suspending a magnet
thru any one of the loops, touches a loop, will set of the alarm
circuit and stop the clock. This will give you the date and time
of a magnetic field disturbance. Power should be supplied of an
AC to DC converter with a DC back up switch over supply.
Similar ideas and concepts can be used utilizing very low
frequency receivers, infrared detectors and various other
detection devices that don't require and electronics engineering
degree to hook up. More ideas coming in future parts of this
title file Work on your own concepts of (EVENT) logging
recorders.
Written by: Robert Parish aa245 Freenet
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A part time Ufologist and Electronic Gadget tinker..........
Film at eleven..........
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From: John.Burke@f9.n1012.z9.FIDONET.ORG (John Burke)
Subject: Randle & Schmitt
Date: 19 Jun 91 07:36:00 GMT
Today I picked up the long-awaited _UFO Crash At Roswell_ by
Kevin Randle & Don Schmitt. I found it at Waldenbooks. It's a
paperback (Avon) that costs only $4.95. The ISBN # is:
0-380-76196-3. Phil Klass is going to lose some more hair trying
to debunk this one!
-- John
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From: Paul.Mcavoy@f2704.n206.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Paul Mcavoy)
Subject: Re: Communion, the movie.
Date: 13 Jun 91 17:20:00 GMT
Yes, I found that there appeared to be a lot of things that were not
portrayed nearly as well as they were in the book, but still very
interesting graphical presentation of what Streiber had seen. That was one
of the main reason that I wanted to see the movie, (to see what the events
might have actually looked like according to Streiber.)
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From: Paul.Mcavoy@f2704.n206.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Paul Mcavoy)
Subject: Re: feeling?
Date: 13 Jun 91 17:25:00 GMT
Wow that is strange, well I will be keeping my eyes peeled for weird things!
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From: Ed.Ngai@f2704.n206.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Ed Ngai)
Subject: Abductions
Date: 16 Jun 91 04:03:00 GMT
Does anyone know if any ESP'ers, Clairvoiant's, have ever been
abducted? Seems that all the Earthlings that have been abducted were
normal Human Beings. Why don't Extra-Terrestials ever abduct Humans with
special powers, if there really are such Humans as
Clairvoiant's.
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From: Ed.Ngai@f2704.n206.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Ed Ngai)
Subject: Abductions
Date: 17 Jun 91 00:06:00 GMT
I was also wondering why is it that female human beings are the majority of
UFO abductions for what appears to be sexual reporductive means? It's
clinically proven that male human beings can carry a human baby in his
stomach cavity and supply all of the nutrients necessary to sustain a numan
baby to it's birth. Why can't Alien Females inject Human Males with thier
eggs? Also it appears to me that beings from other planets center their
abductions toward White/Caucasian Females for Sexual reproduction. ( I luv
blondes with nice tomatoes, but I never thought that aliens had a taste
like mine). Why havn't there been abductions of females from other races
of this planet Earth? Don't Aliens like dark meat?
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From: Don.Ecker@p0.f3.n1012.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Don Ecker)
Subject: Russian "octopus"
Date: 18 Jun 91 13:55:00 GMT
John Hicks stated:
> I don't mean to be coming off as a rabid debunker. I just thought it
> rather odd that Marina Popovich was waving around that "octopus" photo.
Ok John, thanks for the information. Popovich had that photo with a large
number of others, and that happened to be one that the Hard Copy people used.
Although I honestly do not recall Marina placing any great emphasis on that
picture, I imagine that it garnered the interest because of how spectacular it
looked.
Don
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From: Don.Ecker@p0.f3.n1012.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Don Ecker)
Subject: Roswell
Date: 18 Jun 91 13:58:00 GMT
I was just informed that on July 1st, the Roswell case will be discussed on
the Larry King TV program on CNN. Kevin Randell will be interviewed from what
I was told.
Keep your eyes open.
Don
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From: Moen@f27.n125.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Moen)
Subject: Debunk Stops here
Date: 10 Jun 91 17:57:16 GMT
> I perceive a debunker as much like a fanatic -- he talks of something
> he knows nothing about.
Mike --
A debunker is someone who dispels _bunk_. If what he's trying to dispel
isn't bunk, then he's not a debunker. Quod erad demonstrandum <grin>.
I can't imagine any reasonable objection to the attempted exposure of
bunk, but, if anyone does object, that's fine with me, too.
Best Regards,
Rick M.
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From: Sheldon.Wernikoff@p0.f150.n30163.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Sheldon Wernikoff)
Subject: Re: Ufo Images Redux
Date: 20 Jun 91 04:59:00 GMT
Joe,
The earliest _public_ statement that I'm aware of Bob Nathan making
re: Gulf Breeze photos was on 10/14/88, on a rather theatrical
syndicated television production called _UFO Cover-Up?_. (* Note *
this is prior to Ed Walters' even identifying himself as the
photographer.) Bruce Maccabee also made a statement rebutting
Nathan's opinion.
I have already forwarded your ideas re: photographic database to
Nathan, and will post his response when received.
Sheldon
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From: Sheldon.Wernikoff@p0.f150.n30163.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Sheldon Wernikoff)
Subject: Re: Crop Circles
Date: 20 Jun 91 05:00:00 GMT
Mike and Robert,
I think of key importance in this crop circle report is the
topography described, particularly the "high river bluff" 1/4 mile
away from the circle.
Dr. G. Terence Meaden of England has, from the data collected,
observed that many, but not all circles, and therefore their parent
vortices, form in the lee (downwind) of hills or escarpments.
Sometimes circles appear as much as several miles downwind of the
obstacles, especially when beyond upslope escarpments or massive
isolated hills.
Approximately 90% of circles considered to be "bonafide", are
located near a region of higher elevation.
If Robert has taken any photos of the circle and surroundings, I
would be most interested in obtaining copies.
Sheldon
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From: Michael.Corbin@p0.f428.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Michael Corbin)
Subject: Cufos Roswell Special Report
Date: 20 Jun 91 06:56:00 GMT
A message from Mark Rodeghier, Scientific Director for CUFOS.
I don't normally send a note to everyone, but this message seems an appropriate
subject.
To supplement the new book on Roswell ("UFO Crash at Roswell") by Randle and
Schmitt, CUFOS has produced a special report that includes original articles
on the intelligence community of that era, a revised timeline of events,
additional photos, and explanations of why the Roswell object cannot be a V-2
test, a Skyhook balloon, a Japanese balloon bomb, etc., etc., Also included
is an article on why Gerald Anderson's testimony is extremely suspect.
I can highly recommend this monograph, even if I did write the introduction,
an article or two, and helped to edit it. It is available from CUFOS for
$12.00, postage paid. No overseas price available yet, but I suspect it will
be about $15.00, postage paid, printed matter, air.
If you have any questions, feel free to send them along. Thanks.
Mark Rodeghier
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From: Jim.Speiser@f37.n114.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Jim Speiser)
Subject: Randle & Schmitt
Date: 19 Jun 91 23:34:00 GMT
> Today I picked up the long-awaited _UFO Crash At Roswell_ by Kevin
> Randle & Don Schmitt. I found it at Waldenbooks. It's a paperback
> (Avon) that costs only $4.95. The ISBN # is: 0-380-76196-3. Phil Klass
> is going to lose some more hair trying to debunk this one!
John:
Do they depend heavily on the testimony of Gen. DuBose? If so, he has already
taken it on....I can send you a copy of the latest SUN (Skeptics UFO
Newsletter) if you wish.
Jim
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From: Jim.Speiser@f37.n114.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Jim Speiser)
Subject: Abductions
Date: 19 Jun 91 23:37:00 GMT
> Does anyone know if any ESP'ers, Clairvoiant's, have ever been
> abducted? Seems that all the Earthlings that have been abducted were
> normal Human Beings. Why don't Extra-Terrestials ever abduct Humans with
> special powers, if there really are such Humans as
> Clairvoiant's.
>
Ed, I'm not aware of any abduction percipients having claimed to be
"clairvoyants" or other kinds of "sensitives" prior to their abduction
(although I'm fairly certain there are a few, only because the phenomenon
seems to affect people from all walks of life). However, many abduction
percipients claim to have experienced random PSI episodes subsequent to their
major abduction episode. I will be discussing this in my next LYDIA file
update, which will be posted to the ABDUCTIONS echo.
Jim
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From: Jim.Speiser@f37.n114.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Jim Speiser)
Subject: Abductions
Date: 19 Jun 91 23:39:00 GMT
> I was also wondering why is it that female human beings are the majority
> of UFO abductions for what appears to be sexual reporductive means?
> It's clinically proven that male human beings can carry a human baby in
> his stomach cavity and supply all of the nutrients necessary to sustain
> a numan baby to it's birth. Why can't Alien Females inject Human Males
> with thier eggs? Also it appears to me that beings from other planets
> center their abductions toward White/Caucasian Females for Sexual
> reproduction. ( I luv blondes with nice tomatoes, but I never thought
> that aliens had a taste like mine). Why havn't there been abductions of
> females from other races of this planet Earth? Don't Aliens like dark
> meat?
Ed:
You raise a good point: I, too, would like to see a demographic breakdown of
abduction percipients, including gender, race and age. I think the gender
ration is 60/40 female/male, but frankly I don't know for sure.
Jim
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From: Jim.Speiser@f37.n114.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Jim Speiser)
Subject: Russian "octopus"
Date: 19 Jun 91 23:41:00 GMT
> John Hicks stated:
>
> > I don't mean to be coming off as a rabid debunker. I just thought it
> > rather odd that Marina Popovich was waving around that "octopus" photo.
>
> Ok John, thanks for the information. Popovich had that photo with a
> large number of others, and that happened to be one that the Hard Copy
> people used. Although I honestly do not recall Marina placing any great
> emphasis on that picture, I imagine that it garnered the interest
> because of how spectacular it looked.
I think I've lost track of this conversation. Are we talking about the photo
that PHOBOS sent back of the shadow on Mars? If so, that photo appears on page
282 of "Genesis Revisited" by Zechariah Sitchin. If not, could someone please
clarify?
Jim
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From: Jim.Speiser@f37.n114.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Jim Speiser)
Subject: Debunk Stops here
Date: 19 Jun 91 23:43:00 GMT
> A debunker is someone who dispels _bunk_. If what he's trying to dispel
>
> isn't bunk, then he's not a debunker. Quod erad demonstrandum <grin>.
>
Rick, what do you call someone who tries to dispel bunk, but its not really
bunk, but he "appears" (to some people's eyes) to succeed anyway? Just
curious.
Jim
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From: Don.Ecker@p0.f3.n1012.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Don Ecker)
Subject: Copyrights
Date: 20 Jun 91 06:29:00 GMT
To all members and sysops;
As the Director of Research for UFO Magazine, it has come to my
attention that certain other groups ( not ParaNet ) and individuals
have been violating copyright laws by taking and using articles and
stories from UFO Magazine, reprinting them and not asking
permission to do so. THIS IS ILLEGAL AND WILL *NOT* BE TOLERATED.
I have already begun to document these violations, and the
attorneys for UFO Magazine have been advised. The groups and
individuals are known, and will be contacted so as to provide
redress. This warning will not be repeated. Copyright violations
are a very serious matter, so a word to the wise is "Do not
continue, this can become very expensive".
Don Ecker
Director of Research
UFO Magazine
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