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Info-ParaNet Newsletters Volume I Number 402
Monday, May 13th 1991
Today's Topics:
Mundrabilla Incident (5)
Mundrabilla Incident (6)
Mundrabilla Incident (7)
Mundrabilla Incident (Conclusion)
Re: RECENT STUDIES
sitchin
Re: 'UFO Abductions' show on CBS
Re: Frank Edwards
Meier, Stevens, Tucson and the Moon
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Subject: Mundrabilla Incident (5)
Date: 7 May 91 20:57:00 GMT
<<<<Continued from previous message>>>>
I have checked with the Eucla Police and ascertained that they
received a similar report to that given by the four persons at
the Ceduna Police Station. Their report had been received early
on the morning of 20/1/88, apparently from a driver of a
semitrailer.
Eucla Police were aware of the report made by the four persons to
the Mundrabilla Roadhouse and were looking for the Ford Telstar
vehicle to obtain particulars of incident.
They have conducted inquiries in the Mundrabilla area particulars
of which I am not conversant.
THE KNOWLES' VEHICLE
The Knowles' vehicle, a blue 1984 Ford AR Telstar GL, front drive
automatic sedan, registration number 7GD-560 was made available
to us by Channel 7 on February 2, after it was transported from
Wudinna, South Australia. It was inspected by UFO Research (South
Australia) and UFO Research Australia. Comments follow:
The vehicle was generally in good condition. There were no
immediate signs of damage to it, when first seen, apart from a
shattered driver's mirror. The mirror itself was not present.
(Sean advised us that they hit a kangaroo at one stage of their
trip, and it is not known what damage to the car is a result of
this collision with the animal). The bodywork, for its age, was
in extremely good condition. The engine was relatively clean, and
there were no signs of panel beating.
Speedometer reading was 002414.2 km but as the car is four years
old this would suggest a total of 102,414.2 km has been
travelled.
Tires:
All five tires were tubeless Dunlop Grand Prix steel belted
radials type P185/75 SR 14. The front left, front right and rear
left (as viewed from the driver's seat looking forwards) were
first time tires. The rear right (this replaced the one which
blew) was a retread. The damaged tire was found in the boot.
The damaged tire:
This tire had blown out along a line where the steel belt
finishes and starts to go up the wall of the tire, in a circular
fashion.
Its tread was good, perhaps half of its original life left,
slightly worn on the outside. The whole valve for pumping air
into the tire, was missing.
Roof:
>From a distance of a few meters it was difficult to see the four
reported indentation in the roof. In position they were roughly
at the corners of the roof. At close range it was possible to
locate four small in area, shallow in depth, indentations. The
areas were depressions, not cuts, and the paint in these spots
was still intact. There was no evidence of an indentation in the
center of the roof, nor any other prominent mark or scratch. No
luggage rack was present.
Electrical:
The family reported no effects to the engine, lights or clock at
the time of the event. We checked the sidelights, headlights,
indicators, washers, interior roof light, booth light, radio and
digital clock and all were found to be operable. When testing the
rear red brake lights we found the right hand light to be
inoperable.
The battery was a six cell unit in good condition. Internal fluid
levels were fine. Terminals were clean, firmly fitted with no
corrosion evident.
Engine is a four cylinder, petrol driven, 2.0 liter capacity
motor. Speedometer, odometer, fuel and temperature gauges were
operable. No tachometer was fitted. The car was driven by us a
short distance within the Channel 7 car park.
Radio/cassette:
It had a small, loosely fitted unit in poor physical condition
with broken knobs, dual speakers, AM/FM bands, 'Realistic' brand.
Its aerial was side roof mounted over the driver's door. When
tested in Adelaide by us with aerial down the unit generated lots
of static. With aerial fully extended the unit played fairly
well.
Internal/external deposits:
There was no evidence of any black deposit, internally or
externally, on our inspection except as stated below. However,
the vehicle had travelled from Mundrabilla WA to Wudinna SA
(several hundred kilometers) under its own power, and then from
Wudinna to Adelaide by truck (another few hundred kilometers)
before we viewed it.
In addition to this, on the day prior to our viewing we are led
to understand that Paul Norman, of the Victorian UFO Research
Society, vacuumed the vehicle in order to take sample. It is
hoped that the results of his testing will be speedily available
to us all.
The inside floor areas of the car were covered with sand
particles, pieces of food, empty drink containers and other
debris.
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Subject: Mundrabilla Incident (6)
Date: 7 May 91 20:58:00 GMT
<<<<<Continued from previous message>>>>>
The one exception, as far as black deposits go, is as follows. On
the metal trims of the two front tires, there was a black deposit
present. This was not Present on the two rear tires nor the
damaged tire in the boot. It was distributed around the trim, but
did not extend to hub cap, wheel nuts nor anywhere else on the
metal surface of the tire. Its distribution was consistent with
coming from disk brake pads, fitted to the two front wheels,
under heavy braking, i.e. worn brake linings.
INTERVIEW WITH MR. DE JONG
Mr. De Jong (nickname 'Porky) and a woman, named Anne, were
travelling by truck from Perth, WA, to Adelaide, SA, at a speed
of about 95-100 km/h. They had stopped at the Madura Pass, WA, in
order to change drivers. Mr. De Jong went to sleep in the rear
cabin whilst Anne took over the driving.
A colleague of theirs, Graham Henley, was driving a truck along
the same road, in the same direction, but he was ahead of them.
They were far enough behind him that they were not able to see
his lights at all during the trip between Madura and Mundrabilla.
At a point forty kilometers West of Mundrabilla (close to the 40
km sign post) they'd passed an S bend in the road when Anne saw
two people waving on the right hand (opposite) side of the road.
(In Australia vehicles drive on the left hand side of the road).
Within 150 meters further on there was a car, also on the right
hand side of the road. The front of the car was facing in a
south-westerly direction, i.e. back towards Perth. Anne asked
Porky whether or not she should stop. After raising up from the
bunk, he said 'No'. They continued on.
Later a car overtook them at speed. After passing their truck,
Anne noticed that the vehicle's lights were switched off. In her
opinion the night was still too dark for a vehicle not to have
lights on. Then the lights of the vehicle came back on. Arriving
at Mundrabilla. they noted that another truck driver, Graham
Henley, was present and talking to a group of people around a
car. After looking at the truck Porky and Anne went over to
Henley. They then established it was these people who had been
waving at the side of the road and also the same people who had
passed their truck at speed.
The group in the car consisted of a woman and three young man.
Porky says the woman appeared hysterical and the boys also looked
disturbed. One was a white color in his face. They told a story
of a UFO. The behavior of the woman convinced the three of them
that something unusual had occurred there.
The woman, established later to be Mrs. Knowles, had a red blotch
on the back of her left hand which she was worrying about. She
told them she had touched something on the roof. She kept
repeating: 'Someone's got to do something', and 'Someone's going
to get hurt.'
THE KNOWLES' STORY AS RELATED TO
DE JONG
The family were heading eastwards towards Melbourne for holidays
with relatives. Sean was driving at the time, Patrick was
believed to be in the front bucket seat, Mrs. Knowles in the rear
left seat behind Patrick, and Wayne in the seat behind the
driver. Initially they saw a bright light ahead of them which
they took to be a truck. Something was then over the car. They
heard a high pitched whirring noise. Their minds and bodies were
taken over. Voices appeared slow and funny. Mrs. Knowles put her
left hand on top of the roof and felt something. This frightened
her. The car was lifted off the ground to an unknown height. They
did not know how long it was airborne. The car dropped to the
ground. They left the scene heading westwards. Then they stopped
to change the tire, made a U turn and headed eastwards again.
Porky formed an opinion that all this happened in 15-20 minutes.
QUESTIONS
Graham and Porky questioned the family about the incident.
1. The noise: Graham asked them if the noise they had heard could
have been a helicopter. The family said the noise was definitely
different from that of a helicopter. One of the boys said it was
a 'whirry' noise not a helicopter 'chuffy' sound.
2. Asked how high they were off the road, they said they didn't
know.
The two drivers volunteered to take the family back to the spot
to have look at the area. The family declined.
The vehicle was inspected by the two drivers with Graham pointing
out features and Porky following behind.
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Subject: Mundrabilla Incident (7)
Date: 7 May 91 20:59:00 GMT
<<<<<<Continued from previous message>>>>>>
INSPECTION OF THE VEHICLE
Porky looked at the vehicle. His observations were:
1. Of the burst tire: There was nothing inside the casing of the
burst tire.
2. There was a smell about the car which he said was closest to
'bakelite'.
3. There was nothing underneath the vehicle, i.e. no saltbush. He
concluded the vehicle had not been driven into the scrub.
4. Porky did not see any black ash/dust on the vehicle. Neither
inside nor outside. The car was dusty and dirty as per normal car
travel.
5. The boot was in a shambles, everything scattered. There were
no suitcases in the boot nor in or on the car.
6. There were four marks on the roof, one at each corner. These
were indentations not cuts. They looked the same as a mark one
would make by hitting the roof with a fist.
The Knowles family left Mundrabilla heading towards Eucla, WA,
and then South Australia, after spending no more than 30 minutes
at Mundrabilla.
Graham and Porky went into the road house and discussed the
episode with the manageress there, Mrs. Shirley Lundon. Following
this discussion Mrs. Lundon telephoned the Sergeant at the Eucla
police Station. Porky spoke to him and told him what he knew.
After this the two truck drivers borrowed an automatic utility,
from the road house, and went out to the spot together with Anne.
They went back along the road to see what they could find, but
especially to look for three things:
a. Clumps of rubber on the bitumen which would indicate a
blowout.
b. Pieces of glass from the drivers side mirror. The mirror was
reportedly smashed after a kangaroo hit the Knowles' vehicle.
This was said to be during the time they had their vehicle lights
out in front of the truck.
c. The car jack and car jack handle reportedly left at the scene.
The group could not find evidence of any of these, despite
knowing the area/road well and knowing exactly where the car was
parked, and kangaroo hit.
Both sides of the road were inspected at low speed.
THE SITE
They located the spot where they had seen the car stationary on
the side of the road. The road at this spot is slightly
undulating. By this time it had been an estimated 1-1 1/2 hours
since they passed the spot the first time, and the time now was
between 0545 to 0615.
The evidence at the location, which they saw for themselves,
consisted of the following:
1. Footprints. There were footprints where persons had been
walking around. There were four sets of prints heading from the
car away into the bush in a south-westerly direction. These
prints were not full marks but more front foot and toe marks as
if running. From a point in the bush there were prints heading
back to the road in a northerly direction in a straight line.
There were then four sets of prints plus dog paw marks going back
along the side of the road in the sand - full pattern as if
people were walking. One set of prints was that of someone with
bare feet, one with thongs and two with shoes or runners.
2. There was the impression in the ground of a car jack where
they had changed the tire. When questioned, Porky believed it was
a squarish mark and not one of the old round jacks.
3. Tire prints. On the bitumen there was a skid mark some 15-20
meters long apparently made by the rear left hand tire when they
pulled up. In the dirt there was evidence of a flat tire on the
vehicle coming off the road, and no flat tire when they got back
onto the road, There were signs that the vehicle was driven
backwards on to the bitumen before doing a U-turn and proceeding
eastwards.
There was, however, no sign of the car jack handle reportedly
used to change the tire. They did a grid pattern search for these
and were perturbed when they couldn't find them.
They failed to find any trace of clothes, which they believed to
have been loose in the boot, which the Knowles said they took out
to get to the spare tire and which they left at the scene.
AFTERWARDS
The truck party then returned to Mundrabilla where Porky had
another talk to the Eucla police. He learnt that the vehicle had
passed through Eucla by then. He suggested the police call Penong
police in South Australia and have the car stopped, as there was
definitely something wrong.
After a whole morning had passed by, the two truck drivers
finally left Mundrabilla and headed on. Porky went on to Penong
where they stopped for a while and then on to Wudinna for coffee.
A helicopter turned up there and they investigated, finally
learning that the Knowles family were in a motel and various
media organizations were also present. After some time they were
allowed to talk to the Knowles family.
After talking to the Knowles they proceeded to Adelaide where
Porky appeared on Channel 9 for a short interview.
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From: ParaNet.Information.Service@p0.f428.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG (sm)
Subject: Mundrabilla Incident (Conclusion)
Date: 7 May 91 20:59:00 GMT
<<<<<<<Continued from previous message>>>>>>>
MISCELLANEOUS
1. Porky knows the road well as he has been a truck contractor
travelling between Perth and Adelaide for several years.
2. They did not know the Knowles vehicle was ahead of them during
the section Madura/Mundrabilla, i.e. they didn't see the car
lights ahead of them until the Knowles passed them.
3. Porky says the Knowles car couldn't have been on the side of
the road when Graham passed the spot.
4. Anne saw no unusual lights at any stage, especially not when
they passed the Knowles' car. No unusual effects were noted on
the engine, lights, UHF nor CB radio, steering etc. No unusual
sounds were heard.
5. Timing: It was between 0400 and 0430 local time when they
passed the stationary car on the side of the road. Porky
confirmed the time as about 0445 when he got to Mundrabilla. They
said it was still definitely dark when they passed the stationary
car.
6. Mrs. Knowles was sitting on the left hand side passenger's
seat, not behind the driver, according to Porky.
7. Sean was the driver at this time. He appeared hysterical to
Porky and was unable to talk at all at Mundrabilla.
8. The weather: At Madura Pass Porky had checked the vehicle. He
noted that the night was clear, stars were visible, there was no
Moon. He said it was a clear sky, no clouds an no sign of any
lightning in the area. Sunrise was definitely after they saw the
figures waving at the side of the road.
9. Graham told Porky that he had seen an unusual light in his
rear vision mirror and tried to call Porky on his CB radio. Porky
did not receive such a call but believes he was out of range at
the time anyway. Graham did not know Porky pulled up at the
Madura Pass and stayed there a while, thus increasing the
distance behind the two vehicles. At the time of passing the car
they had on low volume a CB radio and a UHF radio. Anne was
listening to a cassette.
10. Asked if the Knowles had mentioned any other vehicle being
involved in the encounter, Porky said no, they hadn't. Anne was
asked if she saw vehicles going the other way, i.e. West, during
the time Madura to Mundrabilla. She said yes. Without being led
she was asked if she had recollections of a car and van passing
the other way. She stated she did not remember such going by, and
added that it would be rare for someone to pull a van during the
night anyway.
11. Upon the return trip in the utility they did find a man
asleep in a car, 20 km west of Mundrabilla. They woke him up by
looking in his car.
THE PHYSICAL EVIDENCE
REPORT BY INDEPENDENT
LABORATORY
Channel 7 asked the Australian Mineral Development Laboratory
(AMDEL) in Adelaide to examine the car whilst it was held at
Wudinna.
A copy of AMDEL report, dated January 29, 1988, has been made
available to us by Channel 7.
Relevant extracts from the report read as follows:
'A visual examination of the failed tire, front and rear wheel
arches, roof and vehicle interior was carried out. Samples of
dust were removed from the left front wheel. The vehicle was
inspected using a portable radiation meter.
'The dust samples were analyzed using X-ray diffraction and
emission spectroscopy techniques. The analysis was compared to
analyses of material taken from front wheels in the Adelaide
area.
Re the dents on the roof:
'The dents were consistent with an object being pressed into the
roof rather than an attempt to lift the roof.
'Inspection of the vehicle using a radiation meter revealed no
areas showing count rates above the background levels. Areas
inspected included the roof, front and back seat, and the front
wheels.
Re the dust:
'The analyses are considered to be characteristic of dust from
wearing brake pads and discs. No significant foreign compounds
were present in the dust samples.
'Summary - The investigation revealed that the damage to the tire
was consistent with running on a deflated tire for an extended
period. It is considered that this would account for the odor,
smoke and vibration sensed during the incident.
'The material taken from around the front wheels was typical of
residual dust from wearing brake pads and discs. No significant
dust was observed on the vehicle as presented for inspection.'
ANOTHER SAMPLE TAKEN
Another sample of a deposit was taken by an officer of the South
Australian Police Department (SA P D) at Ceduna on January 20,
1988.
In discussion with the SAPD, on February 1, they advised no
testing of their sample had been undertaken, that the sample
collected was extremely small, and they were probably to turn
their sample over to W A PD in whose jurisdictions the event
occurred. We are currently negotiating with both the SA PD and WA
PD for custody of this sample.
FURTHER INVESTIGATION
We are following various leads including:
* Seeking to interview the other truck driver.
* Seeking to document independent observation of lights in the
same area.
* Negotiating with the SAPD and WAPD for their samples.
* Seeking advice from those experts who were reported as
advancing hypotheses of various kinds to explain the event, e.g.
meteorite fall.
* Seeking the identity of the alleged driver of a car and
caravan said to be a close witness.
IN CONCLUSION
As at March 17, 1988, it is our opinion that the entire incident,
particularly the central experience of the Knowles, is still open
to a number of interpretations.
VOLUME 6 - APRIL 1988 - NUMBER 1
(C) COPYRIGHT 1988
UFO Research Australia Newsletter With permission from the Editor
to reprint on ParaNet Information Service.
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From: Robert.Mcgowan@f414.n154.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Robert Mcgowan)
Subject: Re: RECENT STUDIES
Date: 7 May 91 00:50:13 GMT
Hi again Linda,
Have you ever read "The UFO Casebook" by Kevin Randle? Kevin Randle and
Donald Schmitt are or have written a book due out in June, I am waiting for
that one. If you're interested I can send it to you. Don and Kevin do
research for CUFOS (The Center For UFO Studies) out of Chicago. I meet with
them periodically.
Well thanks again for the info Linda,
Robert McGowan (Rock).
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From: John.Feilke@paranet.FIDONET.ORG (John Feilke)
Subject: sitchin
Date: 8 May 91 06:09:00 GMT
We recently had a set of books donated to us by a user. We think that they
are mind-blowing to say the least!!
The 12th Planet
The Stairway To Heaven
The Wars Of Gods And Men
The Lost Realms
Genesis Revisited
all by Zecharia Sitchin, this man did his homework for the last 50 years.
can be Ordered from AVON BOOKS
DEPT BP
BOX 767
RTE 2
DRESDEN, TN 38225
all books $4.95 each and $1.00 eack book postage & handling
credit cards call (800) 367-2494
Sitchin is slated to be a speaker at the upcomning MUFON symposium.
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From: Linda.Bird@paranet.FIDONET.ORG (Linda Bird)
Subject: Re: 'UFO Abductions' show on CBS
Date: 8 May 91 05:20:00 GMT
Yep, it was announced in our papers tonight ans we 'Zonies will be
watching it.
See ya,
Linda
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From: Linda.Bird@paranet.FIDONET.ORG (Linda Bird)
Subject: Re: Frank Edwards
Date: 8 May 91 05:25:00 GMT
Hi Clark,
I do believe Jim Speiser is right--the author was Frank Edwards.
Jim is pretty <sharp> to have caught that boo-boo. But...Great Minds
all think alike, and we all remembered a story (from HOW LONG AGO??)
Take care, Clark.
Linda
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From: ncar!apple.com!well!ddrasin
Subject: Meier, Stevens, Tucson and the Moon
Date: 12 May 91 21:34:47 GMT
From: well!ddrasin@apple.com (Dan Drasin)
+ From: Jim.Delton@paranet.FIDONET.ORG (Jim Delton)
+ In regard to Meiers Metal that was supposedly examained by an IBM
+ engineer - as I recall the 'engineer' was a lower level technician
+ with a penchant for overstatment. I also seem to recall that after
+ the piece was analyzed it conveniently was lost - the 'engineer' was
+ carrying it around in his pocket and misplaced it, or some such
+ nonsense.
Jim, I almost hate to tell you this, but that 'lower level technician'
you recall was none other than the late Marcel Vogel, holder of
hundreds of high-tech patents and one of the top crystallographers in
the country. His work was central to the development of magnetic media
for computers (hard and floppy disks) and liquid crystal display
devices. In recent years he devoted himself to exploring some of the
lesser-known properties of crystals, including many that have been
poo-poohed by 'scientists' without so much as a wisp of an attempt at
honest research.
I can't verify this, but the story I heard was that Vogel made the
mistake of submitting the sample to a certain government agency for
independent analysis, and that was the last he ever saw of it.
However, the data tapes of the sample, made through his scanning electron
microscope, have been preserved. In the end, neither he nor any of his
professional colleagues who examined the actual sample could figure
out how the Meier (not 'Meiers,' please) sample could have been
created with any metallurgical processes known to them.
The Meier case probably deserves some kind of award for being the most
frequently debunked by so many people who have done so little
research into its details.
+ From: Linda.Bird@p0.f95.n114.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Linda Bird)
+ Heck no, I did not write that article on Mars. I only sent a copy
+ to Rpbert McGowan who had requested it. It came out of a quarterly
+ publication from Florida called FOR THE PEOPLE.
Thanks, Linda. Do you have the address of this publication?
+ I received flyers about the conf. in Tucson. You are right--it did
+ not receive much/any press from the Phoenix area.
The Tucson conference was absolute dynamite. What the Soviet
contingent (three speakers, including Dr. Marina Popovich, cosmonaut
and the USSR's most highly-decorated test pilot) had to say (and show)
was fairly mind-blowing. The Soviet Acad. of Sciences is years ahead
of us in open scientific inquiry into 'forbidden' areas, and
the entire spectrum of ufological matters seems to be handled much
more responsibly there than here. That's all I'll say right now -- I
could go on for hours.
The conference featured over thirty speakers from all over the world;
it was quite exhausting keeping up with it all, but definitely worth
the investment of time and money. A follow-up conference is planned
for Las Vegas in December, and another major one may be held in Moscow
next year.
What impressed me most was the variety of points of view represented
there, and the fact that these people all LISTENED TO EACH OTHER
rather than believing that anyone had the Whole Truth. In fact,
everyone I spoke to agreed that the phenomenon is much more complex
than anyone realizes and that a radically new perspective needs to be
adopted to encompass it all.
+ Why do you think Wendelle Stevens lost credibility/popularity with
+ the UFO community? Was it because he backed up Billy Meier at one
+ time (and Billy has only a few supporters anymore?) I'm asking
+ because I do not know; have only graduated to Kindergarten in my
+ knowledge of UFO subjects and people.
Well, Stevens only lost credibility with certain *factions* of the UFO
community, one of them being the faction represented here on ParaNet.
In general, 'the nuts-and-bolts' and "abduction" ufologists have had
little patience with contactees claiming benevolent, interdimensional,
spiritually-oriented or otherwise complex experiences, though the
latter have always been more tolerant of the former. Stevens has had a
reputation for honoring the *entire* spectrum of reports, which has
always irked those of the narrowly materialist-reductionist
persuation.
Others lost faith (i.e., didn't want to be associated with him) after
he was convicted of child-molestation a few years back -- which
occurred after he refused to lay off a certain crashed-saucer case
after repeated warnings.
As for the Meier case, Stevens, while he has generally supported
Meier, has never been a 'true believer' in Meier's entire story. He
and others have observed that a radical change came over Meier about
1980. He feels that the pre-1980 material is probably largely
legitimate, but that later the whole picture shifted quite a bit, and
that Meier is now rather a 'broken' man.
As a professional photographer I can tell you without a shadow of a
doubt that photos presented by Meier after 1980 were contrived. But
neither I nor anyone else has ever been able to find the least fault
with his mid-1970's photos. Those pictures are probably the most
extensively and repeatedly analyzed in the entire history of ufology,
and so far nobody has been able to shoot them down, either technically
or circumstantially.
Kal. K. Korff, an associate of William Moore, once wrote a debunking
report, apparently based largely on speculation, opinion, innuendo and
outright fabrication, and claimed that one of the photos showed a
string supporting a model. What the picture (a third-generation copy)
actually showed was a number of fine black lines which were either
film scratches or 'noisy' digital scan lines, one of which almost
coincided with the top of the craft and therefore looked like a
string. Close examination reveals that the 'string' actually crosses
the craft's 'antenna' and terminates in empty space.
The small models Meier did make in his workshop were for purposes of
comparison with the actual 1970s photos he presented, and were
extremely crude. Although they bear very little resemblance to what is
seen in the 'beamship' photos they have been held up as evidence of
fraud. Doesn't make much sense to me, but there you have it.
+ I wish I could write an article as well-written as the one on Mars.
+ And I would love to see more NASA photos. Do you know how I could
+ obtain some on Mars as well as those of the moon that have stirred
+ up so much interest?
You can see more of the Mars photos in a forthcoming book, THE MARTIAN
ENIGMAS, by Dr. Mark J. Carlotto, due out this fall. You might also
check out Richard Hoagland's agonizingly detailed THE MONUMENTS OF
MARS which is available widely, but is several years out of date (a
new edition is due out later this year).
There are a few books about the moon that you might find interesting.
Just remember that the more suppressed and unpopular a subject, the
less often its researchers will tend to produce literary or scientific
masterpieces. With that firmly in mind, check out
MOONGATE: SUPPRESSED FINDINGS OF THE U.S. SPACE PROGRAM, by William L.
Brian II. (Future Science Research Publishng Co., PO Box 06392,
Portland, OR 97206)
and
UFOS AND THE COMPLETE EVIDENCE FROM SPACE, by Daniel Ross. (Pintado
Publishing, PO Box 3033, Walnut Creek, CA 94508).
Good luck!
Dan Drasin
ddrasin@well.sf.ca.us%Apple.Com
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