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Info-ParaNet Newsletters Volume 1 Number 380
Info-ParaNet Newsletters Volume I Number 380
Wednesday, March 20th 1991
Today's Topics:
Hatonn And The Pleiades
New Echo
Goof
More Missing
Kecksburg Redux 1
Kecksburg Redux 2
Kecksburg Redux 3
Hackers/Crop Circles
that 'fireball' -- potentially high strangeness!
Re: Bill cooper
Fritterheads(tm)
Forward/transporters
Re: Bill Cooper
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From: Steve.Rose@f134.n109.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Steve Rose)
Subject: Hatonn And The Pleiades
Date: 17 Mar 91 16:25:00 GMT
Hello Michael!
MC> It is not so much that I don't believe that "channeling" is real, but
MC> more, what scientific methods can be applied to study the phenomena?
MC> I was talking with a person the other day who told me that there have
MC> been some solid-based scientific research done regarding psychic
MC> phenomenon.
Yeah, I have been an attendee at a few 'Full-Trance' and 'Semi-Trance' sittings
in years gone by. Just surface observations though. The 'medium' and helpers
generally frown at any official examinations. Such measurement type apparatus
seems to scare them easily. As the old saying goes:
"Mediums do their best work in the dark!" :-)
MC> Does anyone have any information relating scientific research being
MC> conducted to validate psychic phenomenon?
Most probably. But I bet if ParaNet members were to form a 'seek out and
observe' travel group for various claimants of this phenomenon, as I assume
they have done for UFO sightings...I believe there would be a lot less Phoenix
Journal 'Hatonn' facade types floating about.
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From: Steve.Rose@f134.n109.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Steve Rose)
Subject: New Echo
Date: 17 Mar 91 16:45:00 GMT
PIS> learn more about the phenomenon. Any Fidonet sysop or alternate
PIS> network sysop who wishes to carry it is encouraged to netmail Michael
PIS> Corbin @ 1:104/422 or Paul Faeder @ 1:268/102.
Sigh...I knew this day would come. I know the traffic on that echo will no
doubt be quite 'noisy' when the word gets out over Fight-O-Net. I hope the
moderator of that conference is up tp the task required of him/her. :-)
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From: Jim.Greenen@f29.n363.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Jim Greenen)
Subject: Goof
Date: 18 Mar 91 01:55:00 GMT
PF> In a message of <14 Mar 91 07:11:02>, Jim Greenen
PF> (1:363/29) writes:
PF>
PF> >Mike; So much for trying to edit a line. I tried to say that I talked
PF> to
PF> >John Hicks last week and look on Page 13 through 20 in February issue
PF> of
PF> >"The Missing Link". ---Jim---
PF>
PF> Jim, what's "the Missing Link"? A newsletter or magazine?
PF> If so can you provide subscription information? Thanks!
PF>
PF>
PF> --- QM v1.00
PF> * Origin: -=<ParaNet(sm) Omicron>=- (717)-588-7549
PF> 14.4K HST (9:1010/0.0)
"The Missing Link" is a magazine edited by Aileen Bringleand is
published by UFO Contact Center International. The subscription is
$19.00 a year. The address is 3001 South 288th St. #304, Federal
Way, Washington 98003. I met Aileen over the xmas holidays when she
visited Orlando. She is also Co-Host for the First UFO Congress that
will be held in Tucson, Arizona 3 May through 7 May 1991. I hope
that will help.
73's ---Jim---
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From: Don.Ecker@f3.n1012.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Don Ecker)
Subject: More Missing
Date: 9 Mar 91 16:18:00 GMT
Clark:
Thanks for the two `cases' you mentioned. I remember reading
about both those events years ago, but I did not remember
where I had read them. The WWI case with the UK troops is if
memory recalls, a very famous event. I do not believe this
was ever satisfactorly explained.
Don
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From: Jim.Speiser@f37.n114.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Jim Speiser)
Subject: Kecksburg Redux 1
Date: 19 Mar 91 18:48:00 GMT
Thanks to Jim Delton for finding this gem and scanning it into my system.
Can anyone reach Stan Gordon for comment?
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Reprinted for the Spring 1991 Skeptical Inquirer
By Robert R. Young
On September 19, 1990, the NBC television network's
season opener of "Unsolved Mysteries" featured a half hour
segment on the heretofore little-known "Kecksburg UFO Crash." It
was alleged that this involved the crash and recovery by the U.
S. military of an unidentified flying object with strange alien
markings in the small western Pennsylvania town of Kecksburg, near
Pittsburgh, on December 9, 1965.
The program was the tenth most watched in America in a week
that saw the introduction of the season's "new" shows. It was
viewed in an estimated 17.7 percent of households with television
and on 30 percent of all television sets turned on (Broadcasting
1990). Recent surveys for the National Science Foundation report
that 2 in 5 adult Americans believe that alien spaceships account
for some UFO reports (Science News 1986). It therefore seems
likely that several million viewers may have been predisposed to
accept the premise of the program.
This "saucer crash" has not been widely known to UFOlogists
or UFO skeptics because it appears never to have happened.
According to a review of all original published accounts, the sole
witnesses to the saucer crash apparently were two eight-year-old
children who were among thousands in nine states and Canada to
view a bolide (brilliant) meteor (Gatty 1965).
Add to this a gullible local flying saucer buff who has
finally found "his own" thrilling flying saucer crash to
investigate; the U.S. Air Force "Project Blue Book" UFO
investigating office; "unnamed Pentagon sources"; a secret
military satellite launch; the Pennsylvania State Police; the
Kecksburg volunteer fire company; local news reporters who were at
first kept away; the 24-year-old recollections of local
citizens; and the recent materialization of "new" witnesses.
According to a front-page story in the nearby Greensburg,
Pennsylvania, Tribune-Review the day after the TV show, some
Kecksburg residents, including many observers of the 1965 event
and even some portrayed in the program, say it is all a hoax.
Some residents blame two local men whose story of a copper-colored
12' by 7' "acorn-shaped" object with "hieroglyphic" markings had
surfaced only a couple of months earlier-almost a quarter-century
after the original publicity.
Tribune-Review staff writer David Darby (1990) reported
that more than 50 Kecksburg residents sent a petition to the
program's producers in an attempt to stop its airing. The paper
reported that these nonbelievers included Ed Myers, the Kecksburg
fire chief in 1965, who was portrayed by an actor on the program;
Jerome and Valerie Miller, whose home was portrayed as the site of
a "military command post" during UFO recovery operations; the
owners of the land where the saucer was supposed to have landed;
and Kecksburg firemen.
Myers expressed concern. "It's killing me to know this is
going nationwide, because there's absolutely no truth to it," he
told Darby. "Something's gonna be put in the history books for
my grandchildren to read, and it is just not true."
The Millers, the paper reported, deny that their home was a
center of military activity. Darby said "whoops of laughter"
filled the Miller living room when a group of residents who
consider the whole thing a hoax gathered to watch the melodramatic
program.
Several elements combined in 1965 to create local hysteria.
For several days the world had been fascinated by front-page
coverage of the missions of Gemini 6 and 7, two U.S. spacecraft
set for a manned joining. The day of the incident (December 9)
the Pitts- burgh Press, widely read in the Kecksburg area,
reported that Frank Edwards, a nationally known flying saucer
lecturer and broadcaster had arrived in the city to speak. The
headline, "Lift UFO Secrecy, Saucer Believer Says," had a "kicker"
above it, "U. S. Hush-Up Charged."
However, the Erie Daily Times (December 10) reported
another event that day that went largely unnoticed: a secret
satellite was launched from Vandenberg Air Force Base, Califor-
nia, a launchsite for military polar-orbiting reconnaissance
missions. The stage was set.
Shortly after 4:40 p.m. (EST) a brilliant bolide, or
"fireball," was seen by thousands in Idaho, Illinois, Indi- and
Michigan, New York, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Virginia, West Virginia,
and Ontario, Canada, according to reports on December 10 in the
Erie Daily Times; the Pittsburgh Press, the New York Times, and
the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette. The fireball was even said to have
been seen in California (Pittsburgh Press, Dec. 10, 1965).
Astronomers from Michigan, Ohio, and Pennsylvania, who had
received many reports, concluded the object had been a bright
meteor (Erie Daily Times, Pittsburgh Press, New York Times,
Pittsburgh Post-Gazette, Dec. 10). This was also the conclusion
of the Federal Aviation Administration, according to a spokesman
at Erie, Pennsylvania (Erie Daily Times; Pittsburgh
Post-Gazette); Air Force spokesmen in Washington; and unnamed
"Pentagon sources" (Pittsburgh Press, New York Times).
[continued next]
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From: Jim.Speiser@f37.n114.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Jim Speiser)
Subject: Kecksburg Redux 2
Date: 19 Mar 91 18:49:00 GMT
Reports of bolides are typically inaccurate. Astronomer
Frank Drake (1971), after efforts to recover meteorites from
fireball reports, has estimated the fraction of eyewitnesses who
are wrong about something to be I out of 2 after one day, 3 out of
4 after two days, and 9 out of 10 after four days. Witnesses
often grossly underestimate the distance of fireballs, which may
be dozens of miles high. When the meteors disappear over the
horizon it is sometimes taken as a "nearby" event (Klass 1974:42-
49).
The 1965 fireball was no exception. It was reported to
have "crashed" or "landed" in six widely separated locations. A
pilot in the air reported watching as it "plummeted" into Lake
Erie (Pittsburgh Press, Dec. 10). At Midland, Pennsylvania, west
of Pitts- burgh, falling debris was reported but police found
nothing (Erie Daily Times, Pittsburgh Press, Dec. 10). At
Elyria, Ohio, west of Cleveland, a woman reported that a
fireball the size of a "volley ball" fell into a wooded lot.
Firemen reported 10 small grass fires but no flying saucer
(Pittsburgh Post-Gazette, Dec. 10).
At Lapeer, Michigan, 40 miles north of Detroit, sheriff's
officers investigating the report of "a ball of fire crashing"
found only pieces of tinfoil (Pittsburgh Press, Dec. 10). The
most spectacular report came from Detroit and Windsor, Ontario,
where pilots, weather observers, and U. S. Coast Guard personnel
reported that a flying object "exploded" over Detroit. Coast
Guard boats sent into Lake St. Clair found nothing (Tribune-
Review, County Edition, Dec. 10). The Air Force UFO
investigating office at Wright-Patterson Air Force Base, Ohio, may
have been interested in the recovery of space-launch debris and
sent three-man investigating teams from the 662 Radar Squadron,
based near Pittsburgh, to Kecksburg and Erie (Erie Daily Times,
Pittsburgh Post- Gazette).
In Kecksburg the scene had turned into a circus. Little
Kevin Kalp had run and told his mother, Mrs. Arnold Kalp of RD 1,
Acme, Pennsylvania, that he had seen something "like a star on
fire." Going outside she saw "blue smoke" that seemed to come from
a nearby woods (Gatty 1965; Pittsburgh Press, Dec. 10). Other
reports had described a bright trail left in the air by the meteor
(Pittsburgh Post-Gazette, Dec 10). A "thump" whose vibration felt
by one witness was attributed to dynamiting at a local quarry or
to a shock wave heard by many western Pennsylvanians who witnessed
the fireball. Mrs. Kalp called a local radio station that had
been reporting a plane crash. Soon, according to the Tribune-
Review, a "massive traffic jam" had engulfed the small town
(Gatty, Tribune-Review, City Edition, Dec. 10, Dec. 11).
A local volunteer fire policeman informed reporters that
the Army and the state police had told them not to let anybody in
(Gatty 1965). One result was that an early edition of the
Greensburg paper carried a seven- column banner headline atop page
one, "'Unidentified Flying Object Falls Near Kecksburg," and,
"Army ropes off area" (Greensburg Tribune-Review, County Edition,
Dec. 10).
Captain Joseph Dussia, commander of the Pennsylvania State
Police Troop A Headquarters at Greensburg, announced the next day
that after an all-night search "absolutely nothing had been
found." Reports of something being carried from the area
referred only to equipment used in the search, Dussia said. He
added, "Someone made a mountain out of a molehill" (Greensburg
Tribune-Review, City Edition, Dec. 10). The Air Force also
announced that nothing had been found (Pittsburgh Press, Dec.
10). The next day a Greensburg Tribune-Review editorial
summarized its staff's independent investigation: Nothing at
all seems to have happened (Dec. 11). The official explanations
are totally consistent with all published accounts and the
present recollections of scores of witnesses.
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From: Jim.Speiser@f37.n114.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Jim Speiser)
Subject: Kecksburg Redux 3
Date: 19 Mar 91 18:52:00 GMT
When does the "unsolved mystery" come in? Now enters Stan
Gordon, founder of the Pennsylvania Association for the Study of
the Unexplained (PASU), a Greensburg-based group that collects
sightings of UFOs, Bigfoot, and other oddities, such as the
"Eastern Cougar," an animal that has been extinct for a hundred
years. PASU seems to do little research into these events but
does issue press releases. Gordon, a 30-year veteran of saucer
chases, is also Pennsylvania director of the Mutual UFO Network
(MUFON), the nation's largest surviving flying-saucer group.
Each year in early January PASU issues its annual press
release to Pennsylvania newspapers listing exciting reports
received during the previous year. Their 1989 release featured an
alleged UFO encounter by a Harrisburg, Pennsylvania, policeman
(Latrobe Bulletin, Jan. 9, 1989). A PASU investigator later said
the witness had suffered "severe burns" and a "severe eye injury."
MUFON's state director soon turned it into a "returning UFO
abductee" encounter, making claims publicly denied by the witness.
Local amateur astronomers found the witness had been looking at
the planet Venus. The witness refused to be examined by a
physician; a PASU investigator "lost" film evidence of the
witness' injuries, and a substance Gordon had tested at a
laboratory and then described as "strange" and "unusual" turned
out to be a common fertilizer (Young 1989).
In 1990 PASU issued a call for anyone with knowledge of the
Kecksburg UFO crash to come forward (Latrobe Bulletin). With an
experienced nose for saucer news, they must have sensed that even
after 24 years witnesses always seem to be willing to come forward
if the case is exciting.
Actually, the Kecksburg UFO tale has been making the rounds
among Pennsylvania saucer buffs for some time. Flying-saucer
evangelist Robert D. Barry hosts a Saturday midnight program, "ET
Monitor," on WGCB-TV, Red Lion, Pennsylvania, a religious
station, where he mixes NASA films, UFOria, viewer calls, and
occasional Bible readings. Barry mentioned the Kecksburg
recovery in a lecture at Elizabethtown College, Elizabethtown,
Pennsylvania, on March 22, 1989, and followed on his April 2,
1989, program with the revelation that the incident involved the
recovery of "bodies." Later, on his April 23, 1989, broadcast, he
stated that no bodies were involved in the UFO accident.
Barry says that years ago he was told by an unnamed NASA
informant that the Kecksburg UFO had been tracked, a claim that is
contradicted by statements made by a North American Air Defense
Command spokesman at the time (Erie Daily Times; Pittsburgh Press;
Pittsburgh Post-Gazette, Dec. 10). Barry has also reported,
citing Stan Gordon as his source, that a 1965 member of the
Kecksburg Fire Company claims it had been contacted by NASA before
the UFO crashed and asked to keep the public away from the area, a
claim contradicted by the original published reports and
eyewitness statements (Tribune-Review, City Edition, Dec. 10,
1965).
A curious claim, oddly similar to the Kecksburg story,
occurred January 28, 1990, on Bob Barry's television program. At
7:10 P.m. (EST) that evening a bright fireball had been seen over
much of the East Coast (Harrisburg Sunday Patriot-News, Jan. 28,
1990). That night on "ET Monitor" Barry reported that "a
Greensburg source," a euphemism he sometimes uses for PASU's Stan
Gordon, had called to say that "an object landed" nearby at about
7:20 P.M., that the area had been cordoned off, and that the
source was "trying to get as close as he could." A well-known
baseball philosopher would have been prompted to say that it
seemed like "deja vu all over again. "
It is too bad the producers an researchers at "Unsolved
Mysteries" didn't scratch around a little. At least 50 folks at
Kecksburg could have saved them an embarrassment.
References
Broadcasting. 1990. (Cites Nielsen and its
own research.) P. 40.
Darby, David. 1990. Greensburg Tribune-
Review (Greensburg, Pa.), December 10,
P. 1.
Drake, Frank. 1972. On the abilities and
limitations of witnesses of UFO's and
similar phenomena. In UFO's: A Scientific
Debate, 247-257, eds. Carl Sagan and
Thornton Page (New York: Cornell
University Press and W. W. Norton).
Gatty, Bob. 1965. Unidentified flying object
report touches off probe near Kecksburg.
Greensburg Tribune-Review, December
10, p. 1.
Klass, Philip J. 1974. UFOs Explained (New
York: Random House/Vintage), pp. 42-49.
Science News. 1986. 129:118.
Young, Robert R. 1989. "Harrisburg 'UFO
Incident' Stimulated by Venus." Unpub-
lished manuscript by the author.
Robert R. Young is education chairman
of the Astronomical Society of Harrisburg,
Pennsylvania. Address: 319 S. Front
Street, Harrisburg, PA 17104.
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From: Jim.Delton@paranet.FIDONET.ORG (Jim Delton)
Subject: Hackers/Crop Circles
Date: 20 Mar 91 04:12:00 GMT
An interesting article from "Gvt Computer News", a freebie newspaper
for gvt employees in the computer biz.
A group of computer hackers, apparently seeking information
on UFOs, broke into Animal and Plant Health Inspection Service
computers in October but were not detected until last month.
In early January, APHIS officials learned from the FBI
that hackers in England had accessed the agency's Prime Computer
Inc. systems through U. S. Sprint Communications Co.'s public
TeleNet. At first, agency officiels had no idea why APHIS was a
target or if any damage had been done. With the FBl's help,
APHIS officials discovered the security breach occurred in
October and isolated the types of searches done by the hackers.
So far, no damage to APHIS data or systems has been found.
The computer system consists of Prime 1350 minicomputers at each
of the Agriculture Department agency's 40 field offices and
three larger Prime 9955 minicomputers at the Hyattsville, Md.,
headquarters. Each field office has Four or five Prime PT200
terminals hanging off the 1350. The Hyattsville office has
about 500 PT200's supported by the 9955s.
The minicomputers communicate nationwide--through a wide
area network on Sprint's TeleNet. Most of the traffic
consists of text files, said Sam Ladd, associate deputy
administrator of APHIS' Management and Budget Division. An
informant told the FBI the hackers were seeking information on
UFOs, Ladd said. But in its review, APHIS found the hackers also
had sought ways to access agency systems, he said. "They
apparently had Prime source code, so their ability to penetrate
Prime systems was pretty good," Ladd said. "They already were on
the Sprint network and were trying to test access to break in.
When they saw Agriculture, they thought there may be something
interesting. Their
Their interest was in UFOs and markings in wheat fields."
APHIS, with 5,OOO employees, helps keep plant and animal diseases
out of the United States. The agency also tries to minimize
damage if diseases do get into the country.
Besides the UFO information, the hackers apparently were
looking for anything else intriguing, Ladd said. "They were
looking for anything of value they could use," he said. "Some
files contained telephone credit card [numbers]." Although the
hackers got into these files, there is no evidence that they used
the credit cards, he said.
One early concern was that the hackers might have set a
virus loose in the APHIS computers. But after two weeks of
investi- gation, officials ruled out that possibility, Ladd said.
APHIS computer programmer Jeff Tessmer was assigned to undertake
the search for system alterations by the hackers. Over a
weekend, Tessmer identified four APHIS systems containing
unfamiliar files: two in Hyattsville, one in Jefferson City, Mo.,
and one in Wilmington, N.C. "I went into the systems
administrator mode and started looking at suspicious files by
date and time," Tessmer recounted. "It looked as if they were trying
to
use our network to get into other systems at other network
addresses."
Tessmer said at one point while he was logged onto the
network, one of the hackers also logged on. "One of them logged
on while I was on. I went into the administrator mode and changed
his password, then logged back on using that password. By doing
this I was able to kick him off the network," Tessmer said.
"With this system you can only log yourself off."
Though no damage appears to have occurred, Ladd said the
incident was a nuisance. On the plus side, it did help top
agency managers recognize the need for computer security measures,
he added. To beef up security, the agency has changed all its
passwords and user identification codes, making them more secure.
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From: Tyson.Mitchiner@f134.n109.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Tyson Mitchiner)
Subject: that 'fireball' -- potentially high strangeness!
Date: 18 Mar 91 09:56:00 GMT
This message is actually to all...
Did anyone see 60 minutes on Sunday, March 17th? I saw a preview of
the show, which had objects flying in boomerang formation flying
near the Washington monument. I unfortunately was not able to watch
it, and was curious if that was linked to this subject, or if that
was just a bunch of planes flying in formation?
Tyson
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From: Jim.Greenen@f29.n363.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Jim Greenen)
Subject: Re: Bill cooper
Date: 18 Mar 91 14:20:00 GMT
Sorry Rick; but I can't go along with you on that one. The purpose
of the message was not to protect Bill Cooper from his problems he
has but to keep a open mind about all thats going on. As the SYSOP
of the Bay Area Skeptic group and reading some of your posting in
the BBS, I feel that your attentions are less then honorable. For
you to promote keeping Bill Coopers files (and I feel that thay
should be) is not for the reason you state. A person that makes
claims as being a skeptic and belongs to such organization is not
being fair with himself when claims to be openminded.
Please excuse me for being so blunt but I was not born with the
ability to be a diplomate and I try my best not to be a hypocrite.
I would enjoy discussing different topics with you but from past
experience that we have had on the BBS, I feel that the one thing
that you don't have is a open mind. This is not attended to be a
put down to you because your probably a very nice person but its
against the word SKEPTIC because its the exact opposite of
open-minded.
You have read enough on this and other BBS that you should have
come to a conclusion that all of these claims of UFO sightings has
to merit some consideration on your part. I and 20 million others
have seen some very strange things flying around in our skys and the
purpose is not if thay exist but its the who, what and where that
I'm interested in. If you have doubts, then I would recommend
reading "Above Top Secret" for a start and then past it around the
Bay Area group. Then log on the echo as Rick Moen the person that is
interested in learning all he can on this subject and not Rick Moen
the skeptic. Between the two of us, maybe we can find some parts to
the puzzle. 73's ---Jim---
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From: Matt.Drury@p0.f69.n363.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Matt Drury)
Subject: Fritterheads(tm)
Date: 18 Mar 91 14:40:00 GMT
"> I've always been strongly in favour of open-mindedness -- as long as
"> your mind isn't so open that things flutter in and out.
An excellent way to ignore any opinion that doesn't fit your worldview
without sacrificing your high moral and ethical standards. Sir, I salute
you.
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From: Matt.Drury@p0.f69.n363.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Matt Drury)
Subject: Forward/transporters
Date: 18 Mar 91 14:44:00 GMT
"> to atoms with net spins. Also, storing and transmitting this
"> amount of data boggles my mind.
Using Phil Katz' new PKZIP 1.20 protocol on the 3D-scanned database you
posit should reduce the data to a workable size. However, a utility that is
more intelligent than PKZIPFIX will need to be authored for when the
transmission drops a bit (=nose or ear or other important organ).
"Let's use The Enemy for transporter testing."
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From: Matt.Drury@p0.f69.n363.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Matt Drury)
Subject: Re: Bill Cooper
Date: 18 Mar 91 14:48:00 GMT
"> Sorry Rick; but I can't go along with you on that one. The
"> purpose of the message was not to protect Bill Cooper from
Forgive me for tuning in late, but what did Bill Cooper do to offend the
powers-that-be? Had I a collection of any author's frowned-upon text, I
would be disinclined to trash it for any reason short of a court order. I'd
rather leave it available, with appropriate editoral comments--and allow any
foolishness or fritterheadedness to reflect on the author hirself.
"Fun with networking."
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