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Info-ParaNet Newsletters Volume I Number 365
Wednesday, February 13th 1991
Today's Topics:
Corydon Indiana sightings
ParaNet Sighting Report Standard
Skepticism (Please... spare us [Again!])
Re: Boomerang
2/11 Inside Edition and Geraldo
Books
Re: My Second Article
Stealth Uses UFO Parts
Valentich Update
Re: Boomerang
Re: Boomerang
Re: Cattle Mutes
Hudson Valley `Boomerangs'
Re: Phenomenon Framed Again!
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From: Jim.Graham@f13.n1012.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Jim Graham)
Subject: Corydon Indiana sightings
Date: 10 Feb 91 22:04:52 GMT
Since I've finally taken the time to read "The Hudson Valley Sightings",
an article from the local paper came to mind.
I've included it below for those who might be interested.
This article reprinted without permission from the newspaper, "The Herald
Times", Bloomington, Indiana...Monday, April 30, 1990 issue.
CORYDON RESIDENTS REPORT FREQUENT SIGHTINGS OF UFOs
Associated Press
CORYDON - Persistent reports that UFOs dance in the night sky over Corydon
are making star-gazing a popular pastime in the historic southern Indiana
town.
Janet Reising, a Corydon resident for almost 20 years, said she began
to see the lights in the sky almost three years ago, but some area residents
claim the mysterious objects have been around for 20 years or more.
School teachers, nurses, counselors, students, a sheriff's deputy and
a high school principal are among those who claim to have seen the UFOs
near Corydon, which was Indiana's first capital city.
One of the witnesses told the "Corydon Democrat", "We are not a bunch
of kooks. We are respectable, well-educated, professional and responsible
people."
Some of the sightings are very similar, but others differ widely.
Reising claims to have seen several objects of varying colors, shapes
and sizes, one so small she swears she could have reached out and grabbed
it, and another "as large as a football field."
One of the more frequent sightings involves a round, amber-colored
object. Reising and several of her neighbors saw such an object about two
years ago. A small white light came out of it and hovered "three feet off
the corn" in a field near the spectators, she said.
Reising said she went to her car and blinked her headlights on and off
three times. The white light blinked three times in return and disappeared.
"This was a perfectly clear night," she said.
Reising also says she has seen a hovering cigar-shaped object over a
sycamore tree in her front yard and a rectangular-shaped object flying low
in the sky near New Middletown.
Reising says two other women were with her when the second object
appeared. As they watched, the object separated into three triangles that
flew off, one behind the other.
"It looked like a billboard in New York City with different colored
lights going up and down on it," she said.
Reising, an unofficial recorder of sightings in the area, has a list of
more than 300 people who claim to have seen the UFOs.
Most of the sightings occur at night, usually around 11:30 p.m., but
some have been reported during daylight hours.
Several people claim to have been followed by the lights. One girl
said a light followed her home from work one night and hovered above her
house. Another teen-ager said blue, white and orange lights hovered above
him one night in 1987 while he was driving a tractor up and down a field,
Reising said.
Investigators from Mutual UFO Network once videotaped a brilliant
orange light flying in the sky in August 1987. The investigators were
unable to explain what the light was. They did conclude that it was not an
airplane or a helicopter.
Reising expects interest to grow in UFO-watching this summer. As
tales of the sightings travel throughtout the state, they draw curious
visitors to the Harrison County town, she said.
Reising said people from as far as Bloomington and Indianapolis have
made the trip in the hopes of being the next person to sight a UFO.
"Everybody brings their lawn chair and sits down on the side of the
road," she said.
-Jim
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From: Jim.Graham@f13.n1012.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Jim Graham)
Subject: ParaNet Sighting Report Standard
Date: 10 Feb 91 22:07:53 GMT
Would someone mind sending me the ParaNet standard reporting method
for sightings?
Thanks,
-Jim
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From: Glenn.Reynolds@p14.f113.n132.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Glenn Reynolds)
Subject: Skepticism (Please... spare us [Again!])
Date: 11 Feb 91 01:30:19 GMT
In a message to All <03 Feb 91 11:49:00> Douglas A. Dever wrote:
DD> The very sarcastic skeptic (Lynn Parham) seems to fail to
DD> notice the fact that 'skeptics' often fail to give proof or
DD> evidence for their claims. The door seems to swing both
DD> ways...
Douglas, I assume that this message was prompted by Lynn's claim to be an
inter-dimensional alien from the galactic core, and since you have
described him as being "sarcastic" I won't insult your intelligence by
wondering whether or not you understood the ironic nature of his statement.
However, the main point of your observation is one that I have seen
expressed occasionally, but have never before given much heed. It always
seemed to be aimed at skeptics in whimsical afterthought as a sort of
emotional pot-shot. Well, here it is again; perhaps with your help I can
find out what's underneath.
I am (or at least have been until now) under the impression that skeptics
really only have one basic "claim" or perhaps more accurately, "assumption"
in their outlook. They postulate that the workings of the universe can be
ascertained with increasing degrees of certainty over time with a
particular methodology whose main sequential ingredients are objective
observation, falsifiable hypothesis, and repeatable experimental
verification. These are the foundation blocks of the "scientific method",
and to my present knowledge, skeptics "claim" nothing more than that this
process is indispensable to the task of assigning a magnitude of
"certainty" to any given observable phenomenon or hypothetical possibility.
It seems to me that the value of this approach is evidentially borne out by
everything from toothpicks to space stations.
To put it simply, skeptics want to know, before they put their money down,
whether the thing works as advertised or not --and if it does work, how
well? They "claim" that skepticism is extremely good at sorting sense from
nonsense within certain areas of human endeavor, and have mountains of
evidence to back them up.
If they are making "claims" beyond this one, substantiated or otherwise, I
have not yet heard. What are they?
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From: mcorbin@paranet.FIDONET.ORG (Michael Corbin)
Subject: Re: Boomerang
Date: 11 Feb 91 16:45:00 GMT
In a message to Michael Corbin <02-11-91 08:42> John Cockrell wrote:
>Did she describe a large amber light in the middle of the
>bottom of the craft, either by itself or surrounded by
>smaller lights? and did the other lights appear on the
>sides of the craft in a pulsating fashion? What kind of
>motion did it exhibit? Also, what kind of things were seen
>west of Denver?
She described a very bright intense lighting which was white. It was so
bright that she thought it was daylight as the light flooded into her
bedroom through the curtains. She was very startled by it. As for
movement, it did not move, only hover. And, the shocker is that it just
vanished. She stated that she could have sworn that it moved upward
rapidly, but she just knew it vanished. The lights west of Denver have been
reported by my father and his associates while driving tractor/trailer rigs.
Dad reported seeing five strange black looking craft flying in formation
during the day. The objects had no fuselage or windows and were shaped much
like the Stealth bomber. This could have been what he has seen. However,
this was several years ago. On a more current note, he now drives Wyoming
and several of the drivers have seen strange lights around Elk Mountain.
They reported that they observed something that looked like a house off the
Interstate one late night and the next trip through during the day, it was
not there. There are a lot of strange things at night in Wyoming as it is
so isolated and barren.
Mike
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From: cwns1.ins.cwru.edu!ah174
Subject: 2/11 Inside Edition and Geraldo
Date: 12 Feb 91 06:08:30 GMT
From: ah174@cleveland.freenet.edu (Greg Johns)
Well, I didn't see all of the Geraldo, but the man who put the needle
through his hand was, well, interesting to watch.
Inside Edition did a Gallup poll on psychic beliefs, and the results
seemed to say that the public has a belief of it. Next week is our
favorite, a survey on UFOs... I'll be sure to watch that one.
I'm not surprised on the results, after all, I got interested in the
paranormal through my own family, not the media.
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ah174@Cleveland.Freenet.Edu : even if you don't support the reasons
or(@cwns1.ins.cwru.edu) : they are there!
'AcK!' :
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From: Paul.Faeder@p0.f0.n1010.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Paul Faeder)
Subject: Books
Date: 12 Feb 91 04:20:49 GMT
Since I've already released 2 book catalogs this month and I
don't feel like releasing a third, I'm just going to post this
message with these titles now available. For these books, here's
the deal - take 10% off the price (no other deals apply). For shipping
add 50 cents per item continental USA. Outside, add a whole lot more :-)
Send to Aztec Enterprises, PO Box 668, Bushkill PA, 18324.
Also, if you give me an address (e-mail or U.S.), I'll send you the next
catalog. I need your name, complete address and area(s) of interest,
ie. - UFO's, religion, metaphysics, yoga, zen etc.
CONFRONTATIONS: A SCIENTIST'S SEARCH FOR FOR ALIEN CONTACT (H) $19.95
Vallee, Jacques
LIFE IN THE UNIVERSE Jacques Vallee, Terence McKenna,
Richard Grossinger, et al.) (2 hr Video) $69.95
CROP CIRCLE ENIGMA: GROUNDING THE PHENOMENON IN GATE
SCIENCE, CULTURE AND METAPHYSICS Noyes, Ralph $24.95
COMPLETE BOOKS OF CHARLES FORT Fort, Charles $29.95
STUDY GUIDE TO UFO'S, PSYCHIC AND PARANORMAL PHENOMENA
IN THE U.S.S.R Huneeus, Antonio $10.95
UFO SILENCERS: MYSTERY OF THE 'MEN-IN-BLACK' Beckley, Timothy $9.95
UFO CONSPIRACY: THE FIRST FORTY YEARS (H) Randles, J. $12.95
UFO COVERUP: WHAT THE GOVERNMENT WONT SAY $9.95
(formerly CLEAR INTENT) Fawcett L. & Greenwood
UFO-DYNAMICS: PSYCHIATRIC AND PSYCHIC ASPECTS OF THE UFO SYNDROME
Schwarz, B.E. $29.95
NIGHT SEIGE: THE HUDSON VALLEY UFO Hynek, JA & Imbrogno, P. $6.95
ABOVE TOP SECRET Good, T. $12.95
OUT THERE Blum, H. $19.95
GENESIS REVISTED Sitchin, Z. $4.95
COMMUNION Strieber, W. $4.95
TRANSFORMATION Strieber, W. $4.95
THE WATCHERS: THE SECRET DESIGN BEHIND UFO ABDUCTIONS Fowler, R. $18.95
GULF BREEZE SIGHTINGS Walters, Ed/Francis $21.95
UNINVITED GUESTS Hall, R. $14.00
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From: afglsc.span.nasa.gov!webb
Subject: Re: My Second Article
Date: 12 Feb 91 16:06:46 GMT
From: webb@afglsc.span.nasa.gov
In reply to David Coleman's comment about abductee John Bielinski and his
being a MUFON State Section Director, Mike Corbin wrote that he was
concerned about the mixing of abductees, contactees, and people in UFO
organizations, like MUFON. I agree with Mike that, in principle, it is best
that people involved in UFO investigation and research ideally should be
unbiased or uninfluenced on the subject. However, I have been in this field
for a long time and I know that many, possibly a majority of members of
'legitimate' UFO groups, such as MUFON, have had UFO sightings and
even close encounters. This is, in fact, the reason they got interested in
the field in the first place. Also, I know that a number of those in MUFON
administrative positions have had what they percieve as an abduction
experience. This includes some State Directors and even past Board members.
Therefore, the assumption that organizations such as MUFON are doing
unbiased 'scientific' work on UFOs is flawed from the start.
Regards,
Dave Webb
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Subject: Stealth Uses UFO Parts
Date: 10 Feb 91 17:06:00 GMT
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The following newspaper article was printed in
UFO Newsclipping Service, May 1990, page 4. To contact
UFONS, write:
Lucius Farish
UFONS
Route 1, Box 220
Plumerville, Arkansas 72127
Arkansas Democrat, Little Rock, AR, April 9, 1990
EX-NASA EXPERT SAYS STEALTH USES PARTS FROM UFO
by Larry Rhodes
Democrat Staff Writer
A robotics expert and former mission specialist for NASA said
Sunday the B-2 Stealth bomber is made from UFO parts.
Bob Oechsler, one of the featured speakers Sunday at the Ozark
UFO Conference in Eureka Springs, told more than 300 people the
technology behind the Stealth was borrowed from aliens.
"The Stealth bomber you see flying around actually had its
primary propulsion system removed from a recovered flying
saucer," Oechsler said.
"That's where it came from," Oechsler said. "The project
utilizes an alien power plant inside and it's disguised by the
use of four GE-F118 engines with a modification called the GE-
100."
Oechsler's topic was "Alien Technology in Use Today."
"There is new technology today that has been gleaned from
recovered craft of non-human intelligence origin," Oechsler
commented. "The government has confirmed, high intelligence
officers I should say, that these craft were recovered."
Oechsler said a government physicist who works in a secret
laboratory in Nevada has worked on the power source of these
downed craft. Oechsler said some crashed UFOs recovered by humans
have been repaired and flown. He said some of them were found
with large holes in them.
"Many of them are fully operational," Oechsler said. "The holes
would suggest that they were probably shot down. One of them that
he got to look at inside had very small chairs which was the
first full true indicator to him that these were not some type of
top secret design but were of alien origin."
Ed Mazur of Mena (Polk County) and Lucius Farish of Plumerville
(Conway County) coordinated the three-day UFO conference, which
began Friday afternoon. Farish said plans will probably be made
soon for the third annual conference.
He said attendance at this year's conference was better than
expected.
"Many of the people there were invited guests who are involved
in UFO research," Farish said. "However, there were a lot of them
there who have had a UFO experience and just wanted to learn
more. If they attended most of the lectures they went away with a
lot of new information."
Contact Lucius Farish about next year's Ozark UFO Conference or
UFO Newsclipping Service.
Bob Oechsler has written a book, The Chesapeake Connection, and,
according to the promo's for an interview he gave to Denver's KOA
radio talk show host Rick Barber, he also has a radio program
that airs on the American Radio Network heard on the East Coast
of the US.
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Subject: Valentich Update
Date: 11 Feb 91 02:34:00 GMT
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RHONDA Rushton firmly believes her fiance was abducted by a UFO
and she claims photographic evidence supports her story.
Breaking her silence for the first time in 11 years, Rhonda
explained exclusively to POST why she remains convinced her
fiance was taken by aliens.
Rhonda was planning to wed the man of her dreams, 20-year-old
pilot Frederick Valentich, when he disappeared 11 years ago on
the night of October 21, 1978.
Valentich and the single-engined Cessna he was flying vanished
without trace over Bass Strait.
In his last radio transmission to Melbourne Flight Service he
described the UFO which was persistently shadowing his plane.
Valentich's final words were: "That strange aircraft is hovering
on top of me again... it is hovering and it's not an aircraft..."
A metallic clicking noise was then heard over the radio for 17
seconds before communication was lost. No wreckage was ever
found.
The Bureau of Air Safety Investigation launched a full inquiry.
Their confidential report, completed in 1982, concluded: "The
reason for the disappearance of the aircraft has not been
determined. "
But Rhonda, a level-headed and intelligent young woman,
believes she has the answer. She believes she has seen the proof.
Twenty-one minutes before Valentich was buzzed by the UFO,
Melbourne man Roy Manifold was taking photos of the sunset at
Cape Otway, the last land mass Valentich flew over. When his film
was developed it showed an unidentified object shooting out of
the water and flying off over Bass Strait.
Manifold's negatives were sent to the Civilian Aerial Phenomena
Research Organization in Arizona (USA) for computer analysis.
Extensive tests found no evidence of a hoax, and revealed the
image captured on film was not the result of a developing error.
The unidentified object was neither a cloud nor a weather
phenomenon, but a solid metallic structure capped by a bright
disc.
In his last transmission Valentich said: "It seems like it's
stationary and the thing is just orbiting on top of me, also it's
got a green light and sort of metallic -- it's all shiny (on )
the outside. "
"When I saw the Manifold photos I knew that this was the proof
that supported Fred's last words, " Rhonda, 28, told POST in an
exclusive interview. "The object in the picture is what he saw,
what he was trying to describe. I believe that the UFO took the
whole plane, that was why no trace of it, not even an oil slick,
was ever found.
"I think the clicking noise that came over the radio had
something to do with the UFO - Fred left the radio on so we would
hear that. He was a very calm sort of person and that was the
sort of thing he would have done.
"Fred was such a truthful, honest person - if that's what he
said he saw, that's what he saw, " Rhonda said. "I'd flown with
him many times and he was an experienced, competent pilot who
could handle panic situations.
"People said he was flying upside down but the plane used a
gravity-fed fuel system. If it was upside down it would have just
conked out.
"Fred and I had discussed UFOs, he believed in them strongly.
He thought it was arrogant of people to think we were the only
life-form in the galaxy.
"He said once that if one did show itself to him he would want
to go with it. That helped me a lot when he went missing. He
wouldn't have been frightened, maybe he even looked on it as an
adventure. "
Paul Norman, from the Victorian UFO Research Society, told POST:
"The Valentich case is the 20th such UFO encounter in the past 30
years. Some people live to tell the tale, others vanish without
trace.
" We don't know if the Valentich case was an abduction. We
don't know if he went up, down or disintegrated, but there is no
doubt that the UFO caused his disappearance in some way. "
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From: John.Cockrell@paranet.FIDONET.ORG (John Cockrell)
Subject: Re: Boomerang
Date: 12 Feb 91 15:40:00 GMT
Hmm, the vanishing act may promote the "other dimensional" concept, but
whatever the case that could explain how it gets from one area to
another without being seen. Either that or a cloaking device. As to the
formation of craft, how long ago was it? It was publicized that the
U.S. had stealth fighters in action as early as '81, and if they
actually admitted it, who knows how long they've REALLY had them. This
is not to say, of course, that they weren't bona fide unknowns.
On another subject, I wonder if you've read the Lear text
files. I've heard about'em for quite some time and finally found them
on this board. Considering the possibility that they're true, it scares
the holy bejeezus outa me, and that ain't happened for years. My heart
was actually pounding after I got through with it. After I calmed down
tho, I started to question some of what the guy was saying. I mean, if
these creatures can fling themselves across the void, or enter an
alternate dimension, or wherever it is they came from, you'd think they
would have figured out some kind of synthesized or genetically
engineered sloution to their problem, which if you haven't read the
texts, involves atrophied digestive systems requiring cow or human body
parts dipped in hydrogen peroxide to allow the aliens to absorb
protiens. now isn't it funny that out of all the millions of kinds of
life on Earth, the aliens would just happen to need HUMANs, of all
creatures, to digest. What are your thoughts on this?
Just Wonderin',
J.C.
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From: John.Cockrell@paranet.FIDONET.ORG (John Cockrell)
Subject: Re: Boomerang
Date: 12 Feb 91 15:49:00 GMT
Just another thought. About five years ago I was asleep in bed and was
awakened about 3 or 4 in the morning by a chopper above our house.
Knowing at the time about the black "mystery choppers" that have been
seen near Denver and Boulder, I looked outside. A strong searchlight
was being played over ours and our nieghbors yard. We live in the
country about 2-3 miles west of Berthoud and the incident was strange
to say the least. After a few minutes the light went off and the rotors
sound diminished in the distance. I've heard of hypnosis subjects who
remember choppers reveal them to be ufo experiences under a trance,
mebbe that's what happened to me, but I'm too shaky to actaully see and
confirm it either way. Anything like this happen to you?
Just Wonderin',
J.C.
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From: Don.Ecker@f3.n1012.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Don Ecker)
Subject: Re: Cattle Mutes
Date: 12 Feb 91 05:52:00 GMT
> IDAHO STATE JOURNAL, Pocatello, ID - June 20, 1990
>
> + Those who think unearthly forces are responsible also
> believe little green people land from flying saucers. There
>
> Well, I think this speaks entire volumes about what
> the reporter thinks of
> UFOs and the people who believe in them!
>
> It also seems to indicate that he has no knowledge of
> the current theories
> in the field. He could at least get the aliens' skin
> color right.
>
Having read this post, I felt that I should comment on the
subject. I was a criminal investigator for Idaho, and the
subject of cattle mutilations was not always so cavalierly
treated. For the last 20 years at least, Idaho has
been one of the most severely hit states in the west. In
the Pocatello area, many cases of mutilations and other
"off beat" phenomena have abounded for years. This is very
close to the "Idaho Triangle" made famous by author John
Keel. In the Pocatello area and Malid City area, people are
not quite as quick to snicker at the thought of either
UFOs, or the possibilty of "alien, cattle mutilations".
Having investigated both cattle mutes, and other types of
mutes, I am very aware of the south eastern Idaho Law
Officers, and how they view the goings on in that part of
the state. The state Dept. of Law Enforcement takes the
idea of UFO mutilations very seriously, even if they do not
speak publicly about them. In all the years that this crime
has been ongoing, NEVER ONCE has anyone been arrested or
convicted for the crime of cattle mutilations. And they
have tried damn hard to make a "devil connection" or to tie
in the area of "occult crimes".
Don
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From: Paul.White@paranet.FIDONET.ORG (Paul White)
Subject: Hudson Valley `Boomerangs'
Date: 13 Feb 91 03:32:00 GMT
I've just finished reading Night Siege by Hynek/Imbrogno/Pratt and it
seemed to me to be the most credible work on UFO existence that I've
read to date. `The Gulf Breeze Sightings' book was the book that
hooked me into my interest in UFO investigation, but I always told
people that `even if it's not true, it's still an excellent story.'
This is not the case with the book by Hynek et al. The book provides
names, places, dates, times and correlation with police blotters and
testimony. The number of witnesses appear to be in the thousands.
Furthermore, Hynek alleges that a nuclear power plant has video from
security cameras of the object hovering between two of the cooling
stacks, but the plant won't release it, because the matter is security
related.
I wonder how the Belgian (and apparently the Spanish) sightings
will increase the credibility of UFOs? What are the chances that
someone will really get a well videotaped and radar correlated sighting
out of these?
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From: John.Hicks@f29.n363.z1.FIDONET.ORG (John Hicks)
Subject: Re: Phenomenon Framed Again!
Date: 11 Feb 91 20:42:00 GMT
Now I know what you're talking about. ;-)
I don't know if Isaacs promotes here stuff or not. I haven't seen her at a
show, but there are zillions of ufo etc. shows.
jbh
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