Copy Link
Add to Bookmark
Report
Info-ParaNet Newsletters Volume 1 Number 338
Info-ParaNet Newsletters Volume I Number 338
Thursday, December 13th 1990
Today's Topics:
Interview with Jean-Pierre Petit - Part 4
Interview with Jean-Pierre Petit - Part 5
Interview with Jean-Pierre Petit Part 6
Interview with Jean-Pierre Petit Conclusion
Phenom 12-7-90
Prof. Jean-Pierre Petit
Phoenix Skeptics cont.
Re: Omni Magazine - Special Ufo Edition
Prof. Jean-pierre Petit
Re: Omni Magazine - Special UFO issue
ParaNet
Re: Prof. Jean-Pierre Petit
Re: Omni Magazine - Special Ufo Issue
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: mcorbin@paranet.FIDONET.ORG (Michael Corbin)
Subject: Interview with Jean-Pierre Petit - Part 4
Date: 10 Dec 90 20:47:00 GMT
>>>Petit Interview - Part 4 Cont.<<<
A: France has been the scene of a disinformation campaign
which has lasted for 13 years under the name GEPAN.
Q: We found enough documents and testimony in your book to
support this opinion. You show very well that GEPAN
functioned exactly like the famous Condon Commission created
in the USA at the end of the 1960s, and whose only aim was
to misdirect American public opinion on the UFO reports.
A: By combining the activities of GEPAN with the low level
of communications from those in France who call themselves
"ufologists" (a term that does not say much) one has
created an absolutely total lack of interest in the media
and in particular in the research community, toward UFOs:
This explains the lack of attention to the Belgian wave here
in France. Was the Belgian wave of sightings so
exceptional? Since November 29, 1989 there have been tens
of thousands of sightings, of which nearly 1,000 were close
observations from distances of around 200 meters which have
been the object of inquiries by the Belgian National Police.
On just the night of November 29, 1989 between 5:30 pm and
9:00 pm, 30 different groups of witnesses (Including three
police patrols and customs officials) observed the same two
objects. These witnesses were located within a rectangular
area about 25 km by 15 km, between Liege and Eupen. The
similarity in their testimony allowed us to reconstruct the
trajectory of the UFO. An interesting detail: they all
reported very slow movement. A witness gave this precise
description: "I could have followed it by walking." In
particular, the object was seen in daylight at close range
by a Belgian soldier working in the weather service who saw
the object doing a leisurely turn over the village square.
We also number among the witnesses a Major in the Belgian
Army and a theoretical physicist, Professor Brenig, who is a
colleague of Professor Prigogine.
Q: Where could those extraterrestrial vehicles come from?
A voyage over hundreds of light years seems inconceivable.
A: In the vision of the universe based on classical
physics, this objection is a very serious one. But how is
the universe constructed? What geometry does it have?
Given the classical view, we live in a hyperspace of four
dimensions. In 1967 the Soviet physicist Andrei Sakharov
suggested that there is no "a" universe, but rather two
universes coexisting. Which is to say, one universe
consisting of ordinary matter, and another consisting of
anti-matter. This twin version is for me the first step
toward a theory permitting us to imagine moving through
great distances in the cosmos. One way to visualize the
twin universes is to think of a cloth and its lining. The
second step consists of imagining that the twin universes
can somehow communicate with each other. I am doing some
theoretical work in order to develop a mathematical model
for the transfer of matter through hyperspace from one
universe to another universe.
Q: You mean to say that a "hyperspatial" vehicle could
suddenly and brutally find itself transferred with its
passengers to another part of the universe?
A: More precisely, it could be an exchange between the same
equivalent volumes of space, one belonging to the "cloth"
and the other to its "lining." For a witness, this would be
perceived as a rough dematerialization. The machine would
make its trip through this twin space from its planet
arriving at a place in the proximity of Earth.
Q: But to make this trip, won't there always be an equal
number of light years of distance to travel?
A: Yes, if the "cloth and the lining" always behaved very
nicely, superimposing one upon the other with perfect
smoothness. But this can't always be the case in practice.
In order to try to make some very abstract mathematical
ideas simple, what we in the technical jargon call
"fluctuation of gauge," I will continue to use the image of
the cloth and Its lining. The American Cosmologist Misner
has considered the case of a very turbulent cosmic fabric,
both folded upon itself and creased. From time to time the
cloth will be perfectly flat, but the lining creased or
puckered. In such an instance, the distance from one part
of the twin universe to the other will be drastically
shortened, making a voyage realistically short. Another
situation could arise in which the voyage would be
lengthened by a factor of 10 or 100 or 1,000, making the
voyage even less practical than it is now.
Q: So it is this phenomenon that explains the otherwise
incomprehensible wave of UFOs? They would take advantage of
the moment when the trip would be the shortest?
A: By my way of thinking, the UFO waves would be tied to a
"turbulence in the gauge" of the universe. The voyage would
only be possible when the "meteocosmic" conditions are good.
The visitors would have limited time to make their
investigation on our planet and would have to reembark
precipitously in order to avoid the closing of the hole
in hyperspace, otherwise they would be stuck here on Earth
for a period of time that could be very long. This way of
creasing the cloth of space like the folds of an accordion
would not necessarily be isotropic, and I strongly doubt
that it is: when the lining is creased in one direction or
plane, the cloth is stretched in the perpendicular plane.
Different types of extraterrestrials originating from
planets in different locations in the heavens would thus
manage to live and operate without ever meeting each other,
at least until they meet on the Earth. It is quite an
amusing idea that the Earth might be used as a sort of
cosmic mailbox by extraterrestrial entities, who would find
this as the means to communicate with each other!
--
Michael Corbin - via FidoNet node 1:310/8
UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name
INTERNET: mcorbin@paranet.FIDONET.ORG
--------------------------------------------------------------------
From: mcorbin@paranet.FIDONET.ORG (Michael Corbin)
Subject: Interview with Jean-Pierre Petit - Part 5
Date: 10 Dec 90 20:48:00 GMT
>>>>Petit Interview - Part 5 Continued<<<<
Q: How do you explain the lack of contact between the
visiting extraterrestrials and us?
A: When two civilizations that are very different
culturally and technologically meet, history teaches us that
with rare exceptions (such as Japan) the more advanced
literally dissolves the other. The introduction of exterior
knowledge is comparable to a viral attack. In the majority
of cases, this parasitic information totally disorganizes
the infected social body, which dies.
Q: From the point of view of the alien visitors, this lack
of contact with us may be due to their behavior as concerned
ethnologists who wish to avoid destroying the object of
their studies. But in your book you insist that there Is a
phenomenon shared by the majority of terrestrial that you
call the "Immunological reflex."
A: Yes. It is a rejection, pure and simple. There are two
possible ways to react when we receive information which
challenges our most deeply held values. The first is simply
to reject. We say to ourselves: It is wrong, it is
impossible. The second evasion Is very subtle. We
"folklorize" the dissonant Information. And this
folklorization can be accomplished In two ways. One way is
to treat the subject with humor or ridicule, and it leads to
themes such as ET (the movie) or "Little green men," (which
have never been reported by witnesses). The other takes
life in a more dramatic way, such as the movie "The Creature
from Outer Space," or television series like The Invaders.n
The "immunologic reaction" of scientists is negation of the
phenomenon, pure and simple.
Q: Have you thought of a scenario depicting the result of
direct contact between us and extraterrestrials?
A: Let's imagine that one of these famous triangular
machines that was seen in 90% of the cases In Belgium lands
in a field. What is going to happen? The owner of the farm
will call the police. Then the police will call the
military. They will send observers, who will report to the
government. As a simple precautionary measure, the police
will cordon off the area in a radius of 100 meters. In the
hours that follow, curious members of the public will
arrive, crating a fantastic traffic jam. Within the
government,-there is a crisis meeting of the Cabinet. The
members of the Cabinet hesitate, being unsure of what course
of action to take. If the machine finally takes off,
everything returns to normal order. But If It stays there,
who, exactly, must establish contact, and how? Would that
be the concern of the Ministry for National Defense, or the
Ministry for Foreign Affairs, or the Tourist Office, or all
three simultaneously? While these grave discussions are
taking place In the halls of government, thousands of
journalists have set up camp In the acres of land
surrounding the landing site. Along the security perimeter,
cameramen are elbow to elbow trying to catch the scoop of
the Century. On all the Little access roads the columns of
the curious cross each other on the way to the new center of
pilgrimage. In the opposite direction you can see a true
Exodus, with multitudes fleeing. Uncontrolled rumors race
through the planet in every direction, Like electric
discharges. The area of the landing site Is filled with
entrepreneurs and hucksters, seeking to make a profit from
the situation. The Vatican organizes a colloquium to
determine if Christ died for the aliens, too. Little by
little the knowledge of the alien presence filters into the
public consciousness and produces a nationwide state of
shock. People leave their work. The professor and his
students question each other. The astronomers ask one
another If it is still worth the trouble to look Into their
telescopes. The stock market goes crazy.
Q: It is truly a catastrophic scenario that you are
proposing.
A: I simply wanted to make you realize the incredible
impact that this alien presence would provoke even before
contact had taken place. Our society Is not prepared to
meet face to face with such an event, and this applies to
every country, not just France. And the thick silence that
officialdom has maintained has not made the situation more
tolerable. What Is actually happening on this planet? Our
societies doubt more and more the validity of their
political systems and ideologies. One feels that whole
populations are ready to throw themselves toward the first
"savior," the first demagogue, who appears on the scene.
Q: Listening to you, it would seem more in the interest of
public order if this contact could be avoided.
A: In fact, the event in Belgium is a contact. Everything
happened as if the machine that was intercepted on the night
of March 30-31, 1990 had patiently waited, openly and
deliberately, for the radar to have locked on. This real
event, which is very difficult to contest, marks the
transition from the hypothetical visitation by aliens to the
real visitation. It can force movement within both the
political and scientific worlds, and unblock imaginations
and unleash creative new solutions. And I am not speaking
merely of scientific and technological aspects. When man
realizes that he Is not alone In the universe, this simple
fact will be sufficient motivation to create philosophical
and ethical ideas without precedent in our Intellectual
history.
--
Michael Corbin - via FidoNet node 1:310/8
UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name
INTERNET: mcorbin@paranet.FIDONET.ORG
--------------------------------------------------------------------
From: mcorbin@paranet.FIDONET.ORG (Michael Corbin)
Subject: Interview with Jean-Pierre Petit Part 6
Date: 10 Dec 90 20:49:00 GMT
>>>>>Petit Interview Part 6 Cont<<<<<
Q: As one who is firmly convinced of the existence of
extraterrestrial civilizations, you must be thrilled by a
project such as SETI (Search for Extra Terrestrial
Intelligence), whose aim It is to communicate with other
worlds.
A- The SETI program consists of trying to receive with the
help of antennas radio signals sent by other planetary
civilizations. So It turns out to be necessary to paint the
antenna at the source of the signals, but by definition we
don't know the source or location. As of now, about 200
stars have been listened to In this way. Na luck. The
members of a radio astronomy symposium that met recently in
the Alps calculated that for us to have a chance f
intercepting one signal we would be required to listen to
200,000 stars. This would require a network of listening
devices so large that the cost would be astronomical The
problem is that the radio waves move at the speed of Light
When we consider the vast distance across space, this is an
extremely slow speed. And incidentally, if we are ever to
intercept a message, the signal would have to be directed
very precisely toward us. The fact is, Our antennas are not
able to detect signals sent from a simple omnidirectional
antenna tens of light years distant, such as for example the
transmitters for the French radio stations. All this makes
the issue of a project such as SETI extremely problematical
it is highly probable that the program, now called "Mega
SETi," will end up as a failure. But on the other hand the
scientists are violently hostile to any appropriation of
money to benefit research on UFOs, a subject which they do
not consider serious. Yet the research done on the UFO
problem has already borne fruit -- contrary to the
experience with SETi. This is certainly a paradox
Q: The Belgian wave of sightings is over, and we can't
predict either when or where the next wave will occur So
how, according to you, should UFO research be organized?
A: Obviously, there is long term work to undertake. We
will use the Mhd model to make concrete experimental tests
of the ideas of the theoreticians. On the other hand the
UFO phenomenon forces us to place into question all of our
ideas about the universe, and even physics itself it is a
fantastic "thought experiment," a true challenge to
research, and it will be necessary to create within the CNRS
a UFO study group consisting of high level researchers
mathematicians, physicists, chemists, biochemists,
psychologists, sociologists and so forth. in conjunction
with that, we will need to build a real UFO "trap," not only
to capture one, but to gather the knowledge that will leak
out. The methodology in Belgium consisted of filling an
airplane with every sort of apparatus, and having it ready
to take off to study the UFO. This happened during the
sightings On the Easter weekend, but, unfortunately, the UFO
failed to cooperate and join the meeting. But this method
should be systematically carried out throughout the world.
Q: Aren't you interested in the marks found on the ground
at the site of alleged landings?
A: Yes, of course! During the last 35 years some private,
12
non-profit groups, to whom we must give recognition, have
with pitifully meager means and in a totally honest manner
gathered a minimal collection of information about landings.
For these people the creation of GEPAN had been an immense
hope, but they were quickly disappointed.
Within CNRS there should be created a quick response
team to investigate landing traces using all known means of
analysis, physical or biochemical, and to simultaneously
mobilize psychologists specializing in the interrogation of
witnesses.
We know of only one case of ground traces connected
with the close range observation of a UFO landing, which has
been subjected to serious study: the case in Trans en
Provence, thanks to the work of Professor Bounias of INRA
who incidentally has never been particularly interested in
the UFO phenomenon. This quite complete study has
demonstrated the existence of traumatization of the
vegetation, remarkably well correlated with the distance of
the traces from the point of the landing. The cause of the
trauma remains unknown to this day. This type of study
should have been carried out long ago. Other than
biochemistry, there exist various other means of physical
analysis which should be done systematically. An analysis
with magnetic nuclear resonance, for example would permit
us to know the nature of the magnetic field which irradiated
the ground. The problem is simple: do we or do we not want
to discover the key to the mystery of the UFOs?
The cost of the creation and maintenance of a team of
persons capable of responding to all reports of alleged
landing spots would be relatively modest in comparison to
the general research budget. Especially if this team could
be reinforced by a volunteer network of ufologists. These
volunteers could receive special training and work in
cooperation with the police to perform preliminary
investigation to screen out the false reports. If we would
trust those people with a minimum of equipment, they could
take measures to preserve and protect the site prior to the
arrival of the researchers, and could also make a
preliminary written report.
--
Michael Corbin - via FidoNet node 1:310/8
UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name
INTERNET: mcorbin@paranet.FIDONET.ORG
--------------------------------------------------------------------
From: mcorbin@paranet.FIDONET.ORG (Michael Corbin)
Subject: Interview with Jean-Pierre Petit Conclusion
Date: 10 Dec 90 20:49:00 GMT
>>>>>>>Petit Interview Conclusion<<<<<<
Q: In actuality, it appears that we are waiting for the
scientific community to mobilize?
A: In this case, one researcher has learned very quickly
the importance of the problem. He is Andrei Sakharov This
is how he ended his Nobel Prize acceptance speech:
"Thousands of years ago, the human tribe suffered great
privations in its struggle for life. Even then it was not
only important to know how to handle a club, but also to
have the ability to think intelligently, to take into
consideration the collective knowledge and experience
hoarded by the tribe, and to develop the basis of
cooperation with other tribes. Today, the human race must
confront an analogous ordeal. Several other civilizations
could exist in the infinity of space, among which might be
societies more established and wise and more 'accomplished'
than ours. I support a cosmological hypothesis in Which the
development of the universe repeats itself over and over,
infinitely, but following certain essential characteristics.
These other alien civilizations, some of whom are 'highly
accomplished, ' are inscribed an infinite number of times on
the pages 'preceding' and 'following' us in the Book of the
Universe." This was written in 1975.
END
--
Michael Corbin - via FidoNet node 1:310/8
UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name
INTERNET: mcorbin@paranet.FIDONET.ORG
--------------------------------------------------------------------
From: Jim.Speiser@f37.n114.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Jim Speiser)
Subject: Phenom 12-7-90
Date: 11 Dec 90 03:08:00 GMT
> Greetings fellow observers! What was it that the early morning crowd
> saw this morning at 0552 hrs near Plymouth, Michigan? One eyewitness
> reported to a local allnews radio station, that he saw a bluish-green
> oval shaped object, emitting sparks(?) and in a crash-like trajectory.
> He said he thought at first that it might have been a helicopter
> crashing, but said the shape (or something) changed his mind. Sounded
> pretty shook up. Later I saw a ten second sound bite on CH7 which did
> not elaborate. No news re: any debris or ground indentations.
> Anyone hear anything?
I have a very sketchy report that it was an unexpected Russian rocket
re-entry.
Jim
--
Jim Speiser - via FidoNet node 1:310/8
UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name
INTERNET: Jim.Speiser@f37.n114.z1.FIDONET.ORG
--------------------------------------------------------------------
From: Jim.Speiser@f37.n114.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Jim Speiser)
Subject: Prof. Jean-Pierre Petit
Date: 11 Dec 90 03:13:00 GMT
> I have just uploaded PETIT.UFO to Alpha. I scanned the file into the
> system, and I will be interested in comments. This could prove to be a
> very significant addition to the data base. Petit is no lightweight
> scientific type, the man carries a very heavy reputation in Europe.
I have just read the file, and IF what you say of his reputation is true, then
it is a significant interview. However, I have some nagging doubts...it seems
we've been this way before. For one thing, his science sounds rather....well,
Lazarish, to coin a phrase. I mean, I have no science background, yet I found
his concepts simple to understand...too simple. Simply suck the built-up air
molecules through the craft, creating a vacuum in front of it, hence no sonic
boom? That sounds like a schoolboy idea. Can anyone out there tell me if this
concept has some validity? For another, he seemed to talk in absolutes a great
deal more than I am comfortable hearing from a scientist. I will be interested
in hearing others' comments on this file.
Jim
--
Jim Speiser - via FidoNet node 1:310/8
UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name
INTERNET: Jim.Speiser@f37.n114.z1.FIDONET.ORG
--------------------------------------------------------------------
From: Jim.Speiser@f37.n114.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Jim Speiser)
Subject: Phoenix Skeptics cont.
Date: 11 Dec 90 03:17:00 GMT
> Just as an aside, just what do these folks think all this is?
They are now willing to admit that they don't know, but since its very
unlikely that it is ETs, they don't think its anything to worry themselves
about. I know, I know, but that's almost word for word what one of them told
me.
> I do not
> recall anyone being completely dogmatic that these things are ET, but
> how can they refute that these objects are still flying about,
> apparently immune to current state of the art Military aircraft?
They don't refute it. They just don't care. (And there is a subliminal message
that they don't care because they know someday Phil Klass will explain it
all.)
--
Jim Speiser - via FidoNet node 1:310/8
UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name
INTERNET: Jim.Speiser@f37.n114.z1.FIDONET.ORG
--------------------------------------------------------------------
From: Scott.Savage@f37.n114.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Scott Savage)
Subject: Re: Omni Magazine - Special Ufo Edition
Date: 11 Dec 90 03:56:00 GMT
Paul,
I've got an original article on the EFF deal. The book was (is) a
supplement to a cyberpunk role-playing game. The author credits a
group of hackers with supplying information, sort of the way an
attorney will use an expert witness. The investigation was pretty
ghastly - the guy lost major amounts of equipment as well as the drafts
of his manuscript - all on speculation.
If you want, I can dig up the article and forward it to you. OMNI
didn't do much justice to the case.
--Scott
--
Scott Savage - via FidoNet node 1:310/8
UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name
INTERNET: Scott.Savage@f37.n114.z1.FIDONET.ORG
--------------------------------------------------------------------
From: mcorbin@paranet.FIDONET.ORG (Michael Corbin)
Subject: Prof. Jean-pierre Petit
Date: 11 Dec 90 05:59:00 GMT
> Simply suck the built-up air molecules through the
> craft, creating a vacuum in front of it, hence no
> sonic boom? That sounds like a schoolboy idea. Can
> anyone out there tell me if this concept has some
> validity? For another, he seemed to talk in absolutes
> a great deal more than I am comfortable hearing from a
> scientist. I will be interested in hearing others'
> comments on this file.
I talked with Roger Black voice tonight. He has not read
the file yet, but he states that this idea has been around
for a while now. It seems to be viable. Anyway, let's see
what else comes through.
Mike
--
Michael Corbin - via FidoNet node 1:310/8
UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name
INTERNET: mcorbin@paranet.FIDONET.ORG
--------------------------------------------------------------------
From: conncoll.bitnet!gateh@scicom.AlphaCDC.COM
Subject: Re: Omni Magazine - Special UFO issue
Date: 11 Dec 90 16:54:22 GMT
From: gateh@conncoll.bitnet
Mike Corbin writes:
+ Thank you for the update, Mike. I purchased a copy of it, and was not
+ too impressed with the superficial nature of the coverage. What does
+ others think about it?
I borrowed it from a friend, mainly to see the crop circle photos, which
indeed were interesting. I thought the accompanying article was relatively
unbiased, but still in keeping with the magazine's current penchant for
'Lite'(tm) journalism. Some of the other things I read were pretty silly;
my reading pleasure was consummated by the thoroughly incredible 'Are you an
alien?' questionnaire. Why _The Weekly World News_ hasn't picked up on
this I can't imagine. It truly saddens me to see this type of thing in what
was once a very good periodical - I was a charter subscriber way back when,
and the first several years were solid and thought-provoking. Then, I don't
know what happened...
Paul Faeder writes:
+ The other interesting and thought provoking and slightly frightening article
+ was about the Electronic Frontier Foundation. For those that haven't read the
+ article, the US Secret Service suspected a computer software games
+ manufacturer of producing a game that was 'a handbook for computer crime'
+ (supposedly said by one of the agents). They proceeded to confiscate
+ computers and software. All of this is based on suspicion. The frightening
+ part is in wondering how far the Govt. can go with this; not only in this
+ incident but what about computer networks and BBS's?
I didn't see this article, however I have read about this elsewhere. I have
a copy of an excellent article by John Perry Barlow published in _The Whole
Earth Review_ which deals with government involvement in 'cyberspace' (aka
'the nets') in general and this case in particular. I have attempted to
send a copy to Paul, but it bounced as it was too large. If appropriate,
perhaps it should be posted in several parts for upload so as to be easy on
the nets (moderator?).
Cheers! - Gregg
Gregg TeHennepe | SysAdm, Academic Computing | Yes, but this
gateh@conncoll.bitnet | Connecticut College, New London, CT | one goes to 11...
--------------------------------------------------------------------
From: Don.Ecker@f22.n30163.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Don Ecker)
Subject: ParaNet
Date: 11 Dec 90 01:36:00 GMT
> My thanks to Don Ecker who has demonstrated his dedication
> to ParaNet by uploading the first text file scanned with a
> Scanman Optical Scanner and using OCR software. This
Mike, you are welcome!
> Don will be scanning a lot of text files in the future for
> ParaNet.
Mike, does this mean I have a new job?? <Grin>
Don
--
Don Ecker - via FidoNet node 1:310/8
UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name
INTERNET: Don.Ecker@f22.n30163.z1.FIDONET.ORG
--------------------------------------------------------------------
From: Jim.Delton@f37.n114.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Jim Delton)
Subject: Re: Prof. Jean-Pierre Petit
Date: 12 Dec 90 04:43:00 GMT
I had the same feeling when reading Petit's suggestion on sucking up
the air molecules. For one thing, it's hardly a new idea. I think it
was first suggested back in the fifties that one way around a sonic
boom and surface heating was to make the surface of the wing porous
enough that the air could be sucked thru it. Problem is that you have
to suck one heckof a lot of air into the wing and then what do you do
with it??? It has to go out somewhere. IF the ET's have a way to
avoid sonic booms I would think it would be a little more esoteric then
egg sucking wings.
--
Jim Delton - via FidoNet node 1:310/8
UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name
INTERNET: Jim.Delton@f37.n114.z1.FIDONET.ORG
--------------------------------------------------------------------
From: mcorbin@paranet.FIDONET.ORG (Michael Corbin)
Subject: Re: Omni Magazine - Special Ufo Issue
Date: 11 Dec 90 08:41:00 GMT
> From: gateh@conncoll.bitnet
You can send it to our site: cyrill@scicom.alphacdc.com
^^^^^^ (I changed this to me (Cyro) so if it needs)
(splitting, I can do so. -Cyro)
Cyro will know what to do with it.
Thank you.
Mike
--
Michael Corbin - via FidoNet node 1:310/8
UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name
INTERNET: mcorbin@paranet.FIDONET.ORG
********To have your comments in the next issue, send electronic mail to********
'infopara' at the following address:
UUCP {ncar,isis,boulder}!scicom!infopara
DOMAIN infopara@scicom.alphacdc.com
ADMIN Address infopara-request@scicom.alphacdc.com
{ncar,isis,boulder}!scicom!infopara-request
******************The**End**of**Info-ParaNet**Newsletter************************
