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Info-ParaNet Newsletters Volume 1 Number 291
Info-ParaNet Newsletters Volume I Number 291
Sunday, August 19th 1990
Today's Topics:
Again, the old odds and ends. ;-)
Re: Again, the old odds and ends. ;-)
Re: Gulf Breeze Six
Re: INFORMANT
Re: Gulf Breeze Six
Re: Event Cancelled
The Missing Witness
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From: Gene Gross <gross@dg-rtp.dg.com>
Subject: Again, the old odds and ends. ;-)
Date: 17 Aug 90 15:14:24 GMT
# From: cyrill@scicom.AlphaCDC.COM (Cyro Lord)
# Subject: Time capsule/body found
Cyro:
Were there any photos accompanying the article? That might go a long
way toward lending some credibility. After all, sensationalistic
journalism is not unknown in Australia.
Also, I wonder if any of the Australian ParaNet folks have any comments
on this??
Not that I doubt you, Cyro, but we know nothing about the paper which
reported this. At first blush, it sounds like something that the
National Enquirer would print along with their monsters from outer space
tripe or alien babies being born to human mothers.
But all things being equal, it is an interesting article, and if true,
could prove to be a real blockbuster of a find. If not true, then it
will be interesting to see who writes the first fiction novel based on
this.
# Endeavor to Persevere - Chief Dan George
YEAH!!! Right on Chief! Red Jacket, one of our greatest chiefs,
couldn't have said it better. (He was Seneca.)
# From: Pete.Porro@f414.n154.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Pete Porro)
# Subject: Re: COUSIN BO,
#
# I didn't know there was a clean copy of the Zappruder film? I thought all
# these years that frames had been removed and re-arranged. Can someone fill me
# in? By the way yesterdays news has a story about a guy who says his father
# did it. Isn't it odd?
Pete:
Not sure why you think there aren't. Life published frames of the film
and 'accidently' or "deliberately" had some of the frames out of
sequence. But no one would have known if there hadn't been a clean copy
around to work from. But even without the frames being in sequence,
there are other things captured on that film that are equally
interesting.
As for Ricky White, I'm still waiting to see what evidence he has. He
said that he had some evidence that would prove his case.
Unfortunately, the biggest piece of evidence is 'missing'--his father's
diary.
# From: Jim.Speiser@f37.n114.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Jim Speiser)
# Subject: Event Cancelled
# Date: 15 Aug 90 15:54:00 GMT
#
# timing was just not right, thanks to Sadam Hussein.
Yeah, the mad man of Iraq has spoiled a number of things lately, Jim.
Now I hear that an assassination attempt has been made on his life since
the start of the crisis. Hussein is now on the move constatnly. He is
never in one place more than 6 hours at a time. He conducted meetings
on the move. He has a handpicked bodyguard around him at all times plus
a rotating force of 2,000 soldiers. Now is that paranoia or what!? But
even with such precautions, as a movie character said, 'You can hit
anybody.'
# From: Paul.Faeder@p0.f0.n1010.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Paul Faeder)
# Subject: The Missing Witness
# Date: 16 Aug 90 04:52:43 GMT
#
# In a message of <13 Aug 90 23:53:00>, Jim Speiser (1:114/37) writes:
#
# >On December 26th, 1980, several airmen stationed at Bentwaters AFB in
# >England
#
# Wasn't this a more recent incident? Seems as if it happened not too long ago.
Paul:
My memory is getting ancient, but I seem to recall several incidents in
the Bentwaters area. One was in the late 50s or in the 60s. There is a
book put out by the British UFO group entitled something Phenomena for
40 years. See I told you the old memory was going. I've got the title
at home, but I'll have to wait until Monday to post it. My PC is down
until we get moved into our new home.
# From: Pete.Porro@f414.n154.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Pete Porro)
# Subject: Re: ECKER AND MI
# Date: 7 Aug 90 16:41:59 GMT
#
# I won't attack. Just what is the source of your information? That would be
# interesting. Just comming out and making a rather large statement does not
# automatically make it information. So if you don't want to mention a source,
# which would be understandable, why or how did you come to this conclusion?
# That's simple enough?
Pete:
Was this a response to Zach? If not, I'm not sure I follow this
posting. And if not, could you please expand and clarify? If it is, no
need to say anything more. 8-)
Well that's it folks! If I were feeling better, I might try to stir
something up, but this moving bit is ......... (fill in your own words).
One thing to note, has anybody else made the connection between the
current crisis in the Mideast and the prophecy of Nostradamus concerning
the last great world war (Yes--WWIII). In that prophecy, Nostradamus
says that (at least in the translation I've read) WWIII will be started
by a 'great prince' from Arabia. Consider that with what Saddam Hussein
has been saying about himself. Interesting to ponder upon.
With that I take my leave. So ist das Leben.
Gene_O
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From: cyrill@scicom.AlphaCDC.COM (Cyro Lord)
Subject: Re: Again, the old odds and ends. ;-)
Date: 18 Aug 90 04:09:35 GMT
In article <5944@scicom.AlphaCDC.COM> Gene Gross <gross@dg-rtp.dg.com> writes:
+
+# From: cyrill@scicom.AlphaCDC.COM (Cyro Lord)
+# Subject: Time capsule/body found
+
+Cyro:
+
+Were there any photos accompanying the article? That might go a long
+way toward lending some credibility. After all, sensationalistic
+journalism is not unknown in Australia.
Sorry, no photos and I didn't really get the paper but a copy of it.
+
+Also, I wonder if any of the Australian ParaNet folks have any comments
+on this??
Sure we will hear if they are still connected.
+
+Not that I doubt you, Cyro, but we know nothing about the paper which
+reported this. At first blush, it sounds like something that the
+National Enquirer would print along with their monsters from outer space
+tripe or alien babies being born to human mothers.
+
Really doesn't matter as i'm just reporting what was given to me. I have
no stake in this and do understand about the N.EQ. stuff. Was looking
for response from the Aussie also.
+
+But all things being equal, it is an interesting article, and if true,
+could prove to be a real blockbuster of a find. If not true, then it
+will be interesting to see who writes the first fiction novel based on
+this.
+
I agree and this is why I put it on the net.
-Cyro
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Endeavor to Persevere - Chief Dan George
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From: Paul.Faeder@p0.f0.n1010.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Paul Faeder)
Subject: Re: Gulf Breeze Six
Date: 17 Aug 90 06:24:39 GMT
In a message of <08 Aug 90 17:54:40>, Brian Redman (9:1012/2) writes:
> I am more or less unknowledgeable in this area. What books do you
>recommend?
One of the first books I read was titled "Flying Saucers - Serious Business"
by Frank Edwards. That was a looong time ago but you may find it in your
library which is the best place to start.
I would recommend "Above Top Secret" by Timothy Good. ISBN 0-688-09292-0. This
covers the phenomena from 1943 to 1981 worldwide.
I also liked "Night Seige. The Hudson Valley UFO" by Phil Imbrogno, Bob Pratt
and Dr. Hynek. This deals with the sightings in New York during the mid to late
1980's. Sorry but my book is on loan so I can't give you the ISBN #.
The *best* place to begin reading is in the file libraries of a ParaNet board.
UFO magazine is a good source of recent UFO events/news.
--
Paul Faeder - via FidoNet node 1:30163/0
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From: Bill.English@f5.n1012.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Bill English)
Subject: Re: INFORMANT
Date: 12 Aug 90 23:46:00 GMT
In a message to Don Ecker <08-02-90 11:00> Zach Harman wrote:
ZH> Don, do you think it really matter to me if you are an
ZH>informant? The whole UFO story is a BIG JOKE now. Everything
ZH>is hype. I only posted the message to see what your response
ZH>was. The results are as follows.....
ZH>
ZH> 1) You attack my spelling error (intelligence) to gain an upper hand.
ZH>
ZH> 2) You should be removed from Paranet after your wise crack
ZH>about "my head in my ass". I will follow this up to Mr.Corbin
ZH>and use every means possible to remove you from this
ZH>"professional" message area. You are obviously not a mature
ZH>enough individual to handle the excitement here.
ZH>
Oh Jesus Christ Kid! Cut the crap and grow up!....there are a number of us
that use this echo and paranet that have paid a price higher than you can
ever imagine, for the work that we do. Your petty Bull shit is nothing more
than the rantings of a child who has no inkling of what is happening around
him and because of the fact that the adults won't tolerate his shit he
starts threatening with things that he can neither accomplish or do. This is
a typcial example of letting your allagator mouth over-load your puppydog
tail.
If you can act like an adult with adults then take your toys and go
someplace else...We don't have time for this shit!
Bill English
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From: Bill.English@f5.n1012.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Bill English)
Subject: Re: Gulf Breeze Six
Date: 15 Aug 90 14:43:00 GMT
In a message to Bill English <08-13-90 21:18> Steve Peterson wrote:
SP>Upon reading this message, my first reaction was, 'It's TOO easy,
SP>all that is needed to debunk something, is to mention Cooper.'
SP>and that even as silly as the whole thing sounds, I think the
SP>facts need to be looked at first, then we can sit back and laugh
SP>at the thing. I respect both of you guys, so now I am thinking
SP>that either I'am being too cautious, or you've seen more of the
SP>facts of the case. Can you add some enlightment?
Steve, it's not a matter of debunking the Gulf Breeze six case at all. I
have statements from those who knew three of the six personally having
worked with them. This material came from Sgt. Clifford Stone (retired) who
worked with them while stationed in Germany before his retirement this past
Feburary from the Army.
Clifford stated that the religious aspects that were presented by the Army
is a bunch of hog wash. He's comment was that the three people he knew were
dedicated professionals. It is my contention that they saw something that
prompted them to take off ofr Gulf Breeze. The rumor that has been going
around recently was that they left because of material they read from Bill
Cooper. Thus my comment..."Another typical example of how Cooper and his BS
distroys peoples lives....."
As for Cooper's material.....will since he has taken it from myself and my
own experiences, and the works and writtings of several others..the facts
speak for themselves...I would suggest that if you have not read Don Ecker's
Whistle Blowers article in the last issue of UFO Magazine you do so. BTW
part two of this article is coming out in the next issue, and it's gonna be
a humdinger from what I hear..
Kind regards,
Bill English
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INTERNET: Bill.English@f5.n1012.z9.FIDONET.ORG
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From: Bill.English@f5.n1012.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Bill English)
Subject: Re: Event Cancelled
Date: 16 Aug 90 16:59:00 GMT
Jim,
I will be in Tucson giving a speech for Allen Benz's group on September the
first. Not exactly sure of the times or where as Allen has been dealing with
all of that...Your most welcome to stop by if your in the neighborhood..
Bill..
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INTERNET: Bill.English@f5.n1012.z9.FIDONET.ORG
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From: Jim.Speiser@f37.n114.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Jim Speiser)
Subject: The Missing Witness
Date: 17 Aug 90 06:22:00 GMT
> In a message of <13 Aug 90 23:53:00>, Jim Speiser (1:114/37) writes:
>
>>On December 26th, 1980, several airmen stationed at Bentwaters AFB in
>>England
>
> Wasn't this a more recent incident? Seems as if it happened not too
> long ago.
Time's catching up with ya, Paul. It was definitely December 1980, unless
you're aware of another incident. You may be thinking it was more recent
because of the CNN Special Assigment report that was done on it, sometime in
1985 or 86.
Jim
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INTERNET: Jim.Speiser@f37.n114.z1.FIDONET.ORG
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