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Info-ParaNet Newsletters Volume 1 Number 304
Info-ParaNet Newsletters Volume I Number 304
Thursday, September 20th 1990
Today's Topics:
Re: Betz comment
Bermuda Triangle
designs
Re: Mystery Teletype
"extortion" letter
Re: designs
Re:Berm Triangle.
Re: TELETYPE MESSAG
Re: Mystery Teletype
Bill Cooper's Book
Re: Bermuda Triangle,Etc
Re: OUT THERE by Blum
Re: Betz comment
Me
Re: Oprah Winfrey
Transmission of GIF files?
KECKSBURG INCIDENT
Kecksburg UFO
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From: John.Hicks@f29.n363.z1.FIDONET.ORG (John Hicks)
Subject: Re: Betz comment
Date: 15 Sep 90 15:58:00 GMT
> O-2's, supposedly a well-known CIA plane. I was under the
> impression that the O-2 was simply a commonly used training
> craft.
The O-2 has enjoyed widespread use by the military ('Nam etc) and,
presumably, by the spooks. It was favored for FAC use because of its
fast twin-engine design.
It is distinctive, with push-pull engines and twin booms. In
civilian life it's a Cessna Skymaster.
At Patrick AFB, O-2s were frequenly used for training, and simply to
get flight time, but were phased out several years ago in favor of a
more conventional and more powerful twin-engine airplane. The new
airplane is, I believe, an OV-10, but I'm not sure of that
designation. It's also twin-boom.
At night, or even daytime at a distance, the O-2 would be difficult
to distinguish (looking horizontally) from, say, a Cessna 150.
You could probably find a Skymaster at most any airport.
The O-2s at Patrick were commonly painted flat greyish-black and had
black markings (as were most aircraft at PAFB). Nothing secret about
them, though.
Anyway, the big things about the O-2 were its greater speed and
twin-engine safety.
jbh
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From: John.Hicks@f29.n363.z1.FIDONET.ORG (John Hicks)
Subject: Bermuda Triangle
Date: 15 Sep 90 16:01:01 GMT
> When did all of these discoveries occur i have heard nothing on
> finding the Lost Flight!
A single similar aircraft was found about 40 miles southeast of Cape
Canaveral several years ago, but couldn't be salvaged at the time.
Haven't heard anything since then.
John Myrhe was the discoverer, but a journalist recently trying to
contact him found disconnected phone numbers.
jbh
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From: John.Hicks@f29.n363.z1.FIDONET.ORG (John Hicks)
Subject: designs
Date: 15 Sep 90 16:06:02 GMT
The local news had an interesting bleep last night about huge
designs found on a dry lake bed in Oregon.
Supposedly the design is a Hindu symbol of some sort. Also,
supposedly, survey markers were found.
Has anyone heard anything else?
jbh
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From: John.Hicks@f29.n363.z1.FIDONET.ORG (John Hicks)
Subject: Re: Mystery Teletype
Date: 16 Sep 90 05:31:00 GMT
> Ah-hah! That's different, and less interesting.
According to a MUFON investigator in Pensacola, TV stations and
other publications received similar letters.
jbh
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From: John.Hicks@f29.n363.z1.FIDONET.ORG (John Hicks)
Subject: "extortion" letter
Date: 16 Sep 90 05:35:01 GMT
> Is this letter the "mystery teletype" letter or is there
> another one around? UFO magazine says this letter was
> accompanied by 2 UFO photos. Has anyone seen these photos? What
> do they show?
The Gulf Breeze Sentinel (one of the recipients) published the
letter and the two photos.
The material arrived via US Mail.
The photos show a disc-shaped object against a sky background, with
a treetop to one side of one picture. One object could easily be a
frisbee, the other is not. Both photos could have been "lifted" from
many publications without undue effort.
The letter was typed in a "Teletype" style, but arrived in the mail.
jbh
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From: steve.rose@f134.n109.z1.FIDONET.ORG (steve rose)
Subject: Re: designs
Date: 16 Sep 90 19:02:39 GMT
> Supposedly the design is a Hindu symbol of some sort.
> Also, supposedly, survey markers were found.
Now if we could just teach the UFO's to draw that way, instead of destoying
wheat fields...we'd all have something. :-)
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From: John.Hicks@f29.n363.z1.FIDONET.ORG (John Hicks)
Subject: Re:Berm Triangle.
Date: 17 Sep 90 16:03:01 GMT
> John where do you get this information on the Bermuda Triangle?
The specific info about John Myrhe finding the TBM was in a big
article in Florida Today newspaper a couple of years ago. I think
mainly because he was a local guy.
You're right, though. There sure isn't much of anything in the
regular news media.
jbh
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From: John.Hicks@f29.n363.z1.FIDONET.ORG (John Hicks)
Subject: Re: TELETYPE MESSAG
Date: 17 Sep 90 16:05:02 GMT
> Yes there is a modem card for demodulation of SW signals. Back
All you need is the usual card, software, and the appropriate radio
receiver. You can then copy mil RTTY. Of course, you may not be able
to descramble it......
The gear's fairly expensive, but not prohibitively so.
jbh
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From: Clark.Matthews@f320.n207.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Clark Matthews)
Subject: Re: Mystery Teletype
Date: 19 Sep 90 05:03:00 GMT
> According to a MUFON investigator in Pensacola, TV
> stations and other publications received similar letters.
Hi John. I overlooked the obvious question: Where were the letters
postmarked? Any idea?
Enjoyed your writings in UFO magazine -- I don't know what to think about
the model.
Best,
Clark
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From: Brian.Clark@f11.n289.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Brian Clark)
Subject: Bill Cooper's Book
Date: 19 Sep 90 15:20:00 GMT
Has anyone had a chance to see a pre-release of Bill Cooper's new
(and I think only book) "Behold a Pale Horseman"? There is a
faculty member going to fringe science convention next week where
3,000 pre-release copies will supposedly be available - she will
try to pick us up a copy. In the meantime, I believe the release
date is listed as Feb. of 1991.
Any comments?
Brian Clark
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From: Tina.Hummel@p0.f80.n120.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Tina Hummel)
Subject: Re: Bermuda Triangle,Etc
Date: 17 Sep 90 18:08:25 GMT
Hi Mike!! I'm inquiring on how to become a member of Paranet.
There was someone else who put their opinion of the Bermuda Triangle
on the board and they said that they felt that authors of the books
written made it up to fit in their books. I personally do not feel that
way. There are alot of things in this world that people cannot explain
and they try to push it off with some reason just to have an
explanation for it. The unknown has always interested me and the
Bermuda Triangle is something I believe in and is something I have
always wondered about. I would like to talk to you more about it
sometime.
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From: Jim.Delton@p0.f37.n114.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Jim Delton)
Subject: Re: OUT THERE by Blum
Date: 17 Sep 90 06:02:00 GMT
I seem to recall that 10 or 15 years ago there were a few newstories in
the papers about the US Gvt doing some remote viewing experiments but
as I recall, they never panned out. OF course, one can suppose that
they only said it didn't work in order to keep it a secret. Doen't
seem like it would be much use though if you have something you can't
use. If the US could do remote viewing why didn't we use it to rescue
the hostages; one of the main problems is figureing out where they are.
What I have read of the non-military remote viewing experiments is
that they basically don't seem to work when performed under controlled
conditions.
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From: John.Burke@f20.n1011.z9.FIDONET.ORG (John Burke)
Subject: Re: Betz comment
Date: 15 Sep 90 08:06:00 GMT
Jim:
JD> ... they were O2s ...
In case some people reading this are wondering if there are some
UFOs that look like oxygen tanks or something ... the O2 airplane is
basically a Cessna Skymaster, which you can see on the cover of this
month's issue of _Plane & Pilot_ magazine. They go for 275k. So if
the "Night Fliers" screw up and collide while trying to fake like a
UFOesque object in the sky -- it will cost the gov't. over half a mil'
for the loss of the planes alone -- not to mention possible injuries to
innocent bystanders. The taxpayers oughta' raise hell!
-- John
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From: John.Burke@f20.n1011.z9.FIDONET.ORG (John Burke)
Subject: Me
Date: 15 Sep 90 08:26:00 GMT
Greg:
If I may be of some help ... there seems to be an "I hate
ParaNet Support Group" forming on the FidoNet UFO echo, comprised of
people who feel that they have been persecuted for presenting
"divergent" viewpoints on this system. You may note that many of them
have started their own echos on the FidoNet system. Human nature being
what it is ... that is one way to make sure you always feel comfortable
about posting messages.
Have fun! -- John
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From: John.Burke@f20.n1011.z9.FIDONET.ORG (John Burke)
Subject: Re: Oprah Winfrey
Date: 15 Sep 90 08:42:00 GMT
John:
Here's another area where Blum seemed to be way off on the
facts ... Now correct me if I'm wrong about the currently popular
estimates for these figures:
But ... aren't there supposed to be about 200 billion stars in
our galaxy and about 100 million galaxies in the universe?
I forgot what Blum's figures were, but I remember from his
discussion about the Drake equation (or somewhere around there in the
book) he had some numbers that seemed to be *way off* anything that I'd
ever heard of before.
Did you notice that?
-- John
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From: valley!stan@rand.org (Stanley L. Kameny)
Subject: Transmission of GIF files?
Date: 20 Sep 90 15:14:30 GMT
In article of <15 Sep 90 02:45:13 GMT>,
Paul.Faeder@p0.f0.n1010.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Paul Faeder) writes:
+ To: <MTG@csi.compuserve.com>
+ >could do a few -- my only problem would be transmitting the final
+ >product,
+ >as I'm only hooked up to ParaNet via Internet gateway... would these
+ >pictures be available by anonymous FTP or is there another way?
+ Mark;
+ I call CIS about once a week. If there is a way to attach a MS/PC-DOS
+ file to CIS E-mail, you can do that and I'll circulate it through the
+ ParaNet file distribution system. My CIS user ID is 73257,244.
+ Paul Faeder
Mark and Paul:
To transmit a binary file over E-mail, you have to encode it into ASCII,
and the easiest way to do this is to uuencode it before transmitting it,
and to uudecode it at the receiving end. Programs for uuencoding and
decoding are easy to come by for any computer. It should be possible to
acquire them through Compuserve.
Stan Kameny valley!stan@rand.org {uunet}!randvax!valley!stan
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From: ZAK@cu.nih.gov
Subject: KECKSBURG INCIDENT
Date: 20 Sep 90 15:16:33 GMT
Caught _Unsolved_Mysteries_ last night (Kecksburg
crash), and couldn't help wondering two things:
1. Why has it taken all these years for these people to
come forward? They weren't, after all, military people
who could face court martial for talking about what
they'd seen. Nor were they lone witnesses. If the
dramatization was in any way accurate, the witnesses
would have had the benefit of group experience to
convince them that they were not hallucinating,
misinterpreting, or misremembering the incident.
2. Where in the hell in Pennsylvania did this happen when
there are leaves on the trees in December and people can
run around comfortably in short-sleeved t-shirts? At
least the mystery men in with the Geiger counter were
wearing trenchcoats!
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From: David.Squires@f11.n289.z1.FIDONET.ORG (David Squires)
Subject: Kecksburg UFO
Date: 20 Sep 90 03:22:58 GMT
I saw the Unsolved Mysteries episode on the Kecksburg incident. I
couldn't help thinking how similiar the craft looked to the early
Russian space capsules. I know that the Russian's had an accident
where at least one capsule decompressed with the astronaut or
astronauts inside died and were just left in orbit.
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