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Info-ParaNet Newsletters Volume 1 Number 303
Info-ParaNet Newsletters Volume I Number 303
Tuesday, September 18th 1990
Today's Topics:
Re: TELETYPE MESSAG
Re:Berm Triangle.
Gulf Breeze Six: Deja Vu
Kecksburg, PA Crash Story
RE: UFO crash in PA
Re: Paranet Newsletter 302
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From: Pete.Porro@f414.n154.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Pete Porro)
Subject: Re: TELETYPE MESSAG
Date: 12 Sep 90 20:40:14 GMT
Yes there is a modem card for demodulation of SW signals. Back in 1975 we
had a military unit picking up the UPI sports wires while out in the field. I
imagine since then the general public can go to the local radio store and
obtain a downlink unit of some sort. I'm sure the military would have it
scrambled in some manner. The header with all the new services and the
military in a row looks obviously bogus.
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From: Mike.Keithly@p0.f37.n114.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Mike Keithly)
Subject: Re:Berm Triangle.
Date: 14 Sep 90 20:29:00 GMT
John where do you get this information on the Bermuda Triangle? It sure
is not coming from the newspapers or the evening news. So if all the
Boats and planes wreckage have been found why is the public in the dark
about it?
MIke Keithly
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From: James Roger Black <jrblack@shemtaia.weeg.uiowa.edu>
Subject: Gulf Breeze Six: Deja Vu
Date: 17 Sep 90 20:17:41 GMT
THEN (7/19/90):
The spaceship's arrival would be heralded by war in
Lebanon and a shakeup of the U.S. military ...
[Source: Knight-Ridder News Service article on the Gulf Breeze Six, quoted
in ParaNet Newsletter 271]
NOW (9/17/90):
WASHINGTON (UPI) -- Defense Secretary Dick Cheney Monday fired Air
Force Chief of Staff Michael Dugan, apparently for an interview in which
he said Pentagon bombing plans specifically target Iraqi President
Saddam Hussein ...
No reason was immediately cited for the firing of Dugan, who only had
been appointed to the post in July.
But defense officials who asked not to be identified said the
dismissal came in response to Dugan's interview in The Washington Post
and The Los Angeles Times following a tour of Saudi Arabia in which he
discussed possible war plans by the Joint Chiefs of Staff.
The last member of the Joint Chiefs of Staff to be fired, an admiral,
was relieved of duties in 1949, the Pentagon said.
[Source: UPI article on the Kuwait crisis]
I know this is just a coincidence, and doesn't mean a thing, but it's still
kind of spooky ...
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From: Michael.Corbin@f320.n207.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Michael Corbin)
Subject: Kecksburg, PA Crash Story
Date: 17 Sep 90 05:50:00 GMT
There has been a lot of interest in what apparently was a crashed object
near Kecksburg, Pennsylvania back in the 60s. Unsolved Mysteries will be
doing a report on this in the very near future. Almost a year ago, ParaNet
placed a story in its newsclippings area concerning the Kecksburg crash. I
am reprinting it here for those of you who wish a little background.
NEWS CLIPPING SERVICE
DATE OF ARTICLE: May 6, 1989
SOURCE OF ARTICLE: Bulletin
LOCATION: Latrobe, Pennsylvania
BYLINE: Kim Opatka
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THIS FILE WAS PROVIDED BY THE UFO NEWSCLIPPING SERVICE
AND PREPARED BY PARANET ALPHA -- PARANET INFORMATION
SERVICE
DENVER, COLORADO
NOTE: THESE FILES ARE NOT FOR REDISTRIBUTION OUTSIDE
OF THE PARANET INFORMATION SERVICE NETWORK
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KECKSBURG CRASH CONTROVERSIAL
By Kim Opatka
Bulletin Staff Writer
This final article in a six-part series on unidentified
flying objects (UFOS) examines one of the most talked about and
controversial incidents in the area, what has been termed a
meteorite by some and an alien craft by others, which crashed in
Kecksburg December 9, 1965.
The object was first seen streaking across the sky, with
thousands from Michigan to New York witnessing a brilliant ball
of fire which left a smoke trail, visible for about 20 minutes
after it passed.
Many, including pilots who observed it, thought it was an
aircraft which was on fire. Reports of debris from the object
were made in many states, and an Ohio fire department was called
to extinguish 10 small fires in an area where witnesses said they
saw flaming fragments falling from the sky.
Shock waves were reported by pilots, and a seismograph near
Detroit recorded a shock, wrote investigator Stan Gordon, of
Pennsylvania Association for the Study of the Unexplained (PASU)
in a recent journal article. The crash has been a pet project of
the Greensburg man "since the night it happened," he said, noting
he is still trying to obtain information on the incident.
Although the military eventually labeled the object a
meteor, as did the Associated Press account published in The
Bulletin the day after the crash, Gordon says recent evidence,
including the discovery of a man who saw the object, supports the
idea that the object was a true UFO.
"I was a teen-ager then," said John (not his real name).
"It was in the early part of December and there was a little snow
and a little rain, and mud."
He was called to the scene after the 4:44 p.m. crash as a
fireman from the Latrobe area, to search for the crashed object.
"I had seen a fiery object in the sky. I can't say exactly
which direction but it was coming from the north. It was not too
much longer and the fire whistle went off," he said. "I answered
the call and was told they needed a search team because at the
time they believed it was a downed aircraft. And I thought, 'My
God, this is what I have just seen'."
When firemen arrived at the Kecksburg Fire Hall, maps were
reviewed and groups were given sections to search.
"It was getting semi-dusk and we had flashlights. We were
taken in the back of a truck and dropped off and told to go 'this
way' which we did. I was not on the initial contact team.
Another team found the object.
"It was definitely, unequivocally, positively, absolutely no
aircraft, plane, helicopter or rocket, at least not to my
knowledge. It was in an area that was part field and part woods
and we went down to investigate," he said.
"We found the object had crashed at a 30 to 40 degree angle,
and had broken off numerous tree branches in its impact path. My
initial reaction was 'This is no airplane.' I observed no
shrapnel, no breaking up of the fuselage. It was one solid
piece, no doors, no windows.
"Preliminary searches found no bodies or casualties. It was
shaped like an acorn, laying on its side, like the acorn nut is
in its shell when it's on a tree," he explained. "I've been a
machinist for 24 years and I've worked with a tremendous amount
of different metals, and I have never seen any type of metal that
looked even close to that."
John said the object was not broken, "not even cracked, just
dented a bit. It did not give off smoke, steam or vapors, at
least none that we could see."
Reports from neighbors in the area said it had given off a
faint trail of blue smoke, which disappeared after the crash.
He described the portion visible as between eight and 10
feet long, six and seven feet across, and said a man of average
height would probably have had little trouble standing up inside
it. The crater it plowed into the ground was "rectangular in
shape."
John said the state police were there and the area was soon
quarantined.
"They drove us out. It was late at night when we finally
got back to the fire hall and it had been completely taken over
by the military. They were carrying in large pieces of
equipment, radios and such, and they had armed guards posted
outside so nobody could get in or out. The firemen were thrown
out. We weren't even allowed in to use the bathroom.
"The military had control of the whole operation," John
recalled. "After a while we saw a flat bed truck come by with
some other military equipment, a crane or something.
"It was not too much longer, an hour, an hour and a half,
when the trucks came back and there was a large object on the
back of the flat bed, covered by a tarp, with military escorts
front and back. I got the feeling that if you had stepped on the
road you were dead meat. They weren't stopping for anything."
Although the object was later said to be a meteorite, John
doesn't buy that explanation.
"It had writing on it, not like your average writing, but
more like ancient Egyptian hieroglyphics. It had sort of a
bumper on it, like a ribbon about six to 10 inches wide, and it
stood out. It was elliptical the whole way around and the
writing was on this bumper. It's nothing like I've ever seen,
and I'm an avid reader. I read a lot of books on Egypt, the
Incas, Peruvians, Russians and I've never to this day come across
anything that looked like that."
John notes that later it was denied that the object was even
a meteorite, and the military "denied they were even in the area.
But I know there were Air Force and Army personnel involved. It
was like they just came out of the woodwork."
Gordon's research has revealed that one of the military
groups involved was most likely to be the 662nd Radar Squadron,
based at the Oakdale Armory, located near Greater Pittsburgh
International Airport.
The squadron was found to be under the control of the
Aerospace Defense Command, and attempts to get information on the
Kecksburg crash, through the Freedom of Information Act, have not
provided much to go on.
One response said there had been no record of the squadron
being activated on that date, Gordon said, wondering how so much
equipment and personnel could be activated while the monthly
report showed no entry on Dec. 9.
Through his research, Gordon says he knows the Air Force was
still investigating UFO cases at the public level then, and that
it was apparently the Project Blue Book staff which contacted the
662nd squadron. Subsequent reports have led him to theorize that
even the Project Blue Book staff was not made aware of objects
which could "affect national security," and that some
intelligence teams investigated crashes of "foreign space
vehicles."
Another strange occurrence that night, Gordon said, was
reports by some civilians that radiation was released. He
explained that some children playing in the area had reportedly
been told by military personnel that that was a possibility, and
men in decontamination suits were allegedly seen at the site
later the next day.
Although he has considered the possibility that the object
could have been space debris or a test device, Gordon says
documents and evidence obtained in the last few years lead more
in the direction of it being a "true UFO."
John concurs.
"It was definitely not of this planet. At the time I was a
skeptical teen, but when you see something like that you don't
forget it. When you get called out like that from the fire
department you think you're going out looking for an aircraft of
some sort, not a UFO.
"I'll never forget it. I still want to know what the hell
it was."
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8/89
File name: 5689PA.UFO
ParaNet Alpha
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From: Thomas Lapp <mvac23!thomas@louie.udel.edu>
Subject: RE: UFO crash in PA
Date: 18 Sep 90 05:18:28 GMT
+ The book, `UFOs, MJ-12 and the Government', also described in detail
+ a supposed 1965 UFO crash near Pittsburgh.
+ [...]
+ The episode is scheduled to air as the program's season premiere on
+ Sept. 19, segment producer Shannon McGinn said.
I won't be able to view the program, but since I grew up not 90
minutes from Westmoreland county (and worked at a camp in the
Kecksburg area one summer (Laurelville, PA to be exact)), I'm
most interested in knowing (as close as they say) *exactly*
where this thing was said to have crashed. Who knows, in my
drives in the area, I might have driven right past the site!
Oh, and I recall a few years back driving in that area late
one night. Some of those small roads in the county are twisty,
thin, and VERY dark. Even my high beams seemed to be swallowed
up in the night, so I can see how all sorts of imagination
could occur -- especially if there was an event which could have
touched things off. All I'm saying here is that although there
might have been something there, I bet there was a lot more
'folklore' generated to go with any facts which might come out.
- tom
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From: Charlie Turner <CHARLIE@umvma.bitnet>
Subject: Re: Paranet Newsletter 302
Date: 18 Sep 90 16:57:22 GMT
I've looked all around town but can't find a newsstand that carries
UFO Magazine. If someone could post UFO's publisher's address and
phone number I would be very grateful. Also, are there other magazines
of particular interest to Paranet readers?
Thanks.
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