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Info-ParaNet Newsletters Volume 1 Number 301
Info-ParaNet Newsletters Volume I Number 301
Friday, September 14th 1990
Today's Topics:
Belgian UFO incidents
(none)
Mystery Teletype
Mystery Teletype
Oprah Winfrey
Re: UFO'S; BERMUDA TRIANGLE
Mystery Teletype
Howard Blum
GIFfed photos
RE: Paranet Newsletter 299
Gif pictures
Creating digitized GIF pictures
Re: Mystery Teletype
Mystery Teletype
Ufo Crash In Russia
Oprah Winfrey
exoglyphs
Wheat Field Patterns
re: 'Out There' -- the review
OUT THERE by Blum
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From: logajan@ns.network.com (John Logajan)
Subject: Belgian UFO incidents
Date: 11 Sep 90 07:21:14 GMT
Sorry if this was posted twice...
UFO event in Belgium, March 30, 1990
(From IUR July/Aug -- in turn from Paris-Match, a French weekly
magazine.)
March 30, 1990 -- Several calls come into the Belgian Air Force
Headquarters reporting a UFO, among the callers is a Captain in
the national police. Two different radar installations also see
the UFO.
Two F-16s are dispatched (at 0005 hours) to find the intruder.
The F-16 radars acquire the UFO and the pilots instruct the computers
to retain radar lock on the UFO. Within six seconds after lockon,
the UFO begins highly evasive manuvers. Accelerating from 280 kph
to 1,800 kph and decending from 3,000 meters to 1,700 meters -- in
one second! (40G's) Diving again to under 200 meters, the radar
lock was lost in both the F-16s and the ground stations.
(Although the article excerpt does not mention the pilots *gaining*
visual contact, it says they *lost* visual contact at the same time
as they lost radar contact because of the ground lights of the
suburb of Brussels below them.)
The scenario was to repeat itself twice in the next hours (75 minutes.)
Many ground witnesses saw both the UFO and the pursuit F-16s including
20 national policemen. No sonic booms were heard, even though the
UFO exceeded the speed of sound (1200 kph.)
The Belgian Air Force is apparently releasing all information they
know about the incidents. This was the third time F-16s were
scrambled since November 1989 in pursuit of a reported 'huge triangular
UFO' -- it was the first time the F-16s found anything.
A full translation of the Paris-Match article is available from:
Robert J. Durant, 106 Hessian Hill Drive, Pennington NJ 08534
- John Logajan @ Network Systems; 7600 Boone Ave; Brooklyn Park, MN 55428
- logajan@ns.network.com, 612-424-4888, Fax 612-424-2853
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From: Jim.Speiser@f37.n114.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Jim Speiser)
Subject: (none)
Date: 9 Sep 90 08:35:00 GMT
>
> Now for the $64000 question: Do these things bear any resemblance to
> any of
> the known exoglyphs?
>
That was the first thought to cross my mind. I've seen a few of the
"exoglyphs" but don't recall any that resembled the new crop patterns. Perhaps
Dr. Jacobs can answer this....Dave? You ARE allowed to write messages here,
ya know!
Jim
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From: Jim.Speiser@f37.n114.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Jim Speiser)
Subject: Mystery Teletype
Date: 9 Sep 90 08:37:00 GMT
> From: Gene Gross <gross@dg-rtp.dg.com>
>
> Jim, am I correct in assuming that the teletype came to the newspaper?
As far as I know, yes. When I say teletype, again, I'm referring to the style
of the message, not the medium of transfer. I gathered that it was sent US
Mail, but I could be wrong. I'll be seeing Jim Moseley later today, I'll ask
him for more details.
Jim
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From: Jim.Speiser@f37.n114.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Jim Speiser)
Subject: Mystery Teletype
Date: 9 Sep 90 08:42:00 GMT
> JS> is gonna happen next with this case??
>
> Interesting twists and turns, probably. Did you catch the Salisberry's
> CI$ CO?
>
Nope, lost my CIS account. Anything interesting?
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From: Jim.Speiser@f37.n114.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Jim Speiser)
Subject: Oprah Winfrey
Date: 9 Sep 90 09:30:00 GMT
Last Friday Oprah Winfrey had a surprisingly decent show on UFOs. "Decent", of
course, being relative; it wasn't bad for a talk show. She did manage to fit
some good arguments in, and squeezed in some phenomenal guests. For starters
there was Howard Blum, author of the recently published "Out There". Of course
Phil Klass was there (I wonder if he sends out pre-printed Rolodex cards with
his name on them and the words "UFO skeptic"). The real show, however, was in
the audience, which contained Ed Walters, Don Schmitt of CUFOS, and the famous
astronomer Dr. Frank Drake, whose Drake Equation is practically the progenitor
of SETI.
Mr. Ed was typically straight-faced, sincere, down-to-earth, regular joe,
take-it-or-leave-it, I've-seen-em-and-here-they-are. If I have learned only
one valuable lesson from my years in Ufology, it is this: A witness can look
you straight in the eye, appear to be as sincere as a country doctor, as sober
as a judge, and as just-folks as your aunt Hilda, and be lying through their
teeth. Klass told the audience that Ed claimed to have been abducted. "I have
NEVER claimed to have been abducted," said Ed. "You've never claimed to have
been abducted??" said an incredulous Klass. "READ MY LIPS, Phil. I have NEVER
claimed to have been abducted." To say this was misleading on Ed's part would
be extremely generous. Ed has undergone hypnosis by Budd Hopkins, during which
a classic abduction encounter poured out. Perhaps Ed meant that his only
claim was to have had a hypnotically recalled abduction episode. Or, as Jim
Moseley speculates, perhaps he is trying to keep the abduction under wraps
until his next book is in the pipeline. Even Moseley, who is close to Ed,
said that Ed was way off base on that statement.
The other highlight was an exchange between Blum, who impresses me as sincere
but naive, and Don Schmitt, who just plain impresses me. Schmitt is a seasoned
UFO veteran, Director of Special Investigations for CUFOS, and co-author of
the upcoming "Roswell." He politely challenged Blum, saying he was a ripe
candidate for disinformation. He made some excellent points about how the
intelligence agencies work, saying that there was no way the DIA would be
impressed by a case like Elmwood, WI, and the fact that they led Blum to
believe they were is a sure sign that they were playing their usual "false
flag" games. Blum did not defend himself well against Schmitt, nor against
Klass, who pointed out factual errors in his book. Blum could only seem to
sputter something that sounded like "what difference do facts make".
But in the end, Klass may have made the ultimate faux pas. He made one of his
famous wagers, offering $1000 against everyone else's $10, that there was no
"UFO Swat team." He entreatied the audience to call the CIA, the Pentagon, or
the Air Force and report a UFO landing, and see if the helicopters came out.
Now, certainly, no isolated calls would produce any reaction. But what if the
residents of, say, a small town or region were to take him up on it, making a
concerted effort to each send him their $10, then begin calling the Air Force
with consistent tales of UFOs buzzing around and landing? I assure you, the
man would be bankrupted very quickly. His steadfast refusal to acknowledge
govt. interest in the phenomenon will be his undoing. Blum's main point is
well taken: it doesn't matter whether there's anything to UFOs. The government
most certainly THINKS there is, and they ARE doing something about it.
Comments?
Jim
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From: John.Hicks@f29.n363.z1.FIDONET.ORG (John Hicks)
Subject: Re: UFO'S; BERMUDA TRIANGLE
Date: 8 Sep 90 16:20:00 GMT
> actually there is quite a drift and small craft warnings when
> records are checked.
In fact, the Bermuda Triangle is an area of unsettled and sometimes
violent weather.
Huge thunderstorms and squall lines can appear in a matter of a
couple of hours. These storms can have winds of 60 to 70 knots well in
advance of the roll cloud, and frequently spawn waterspouts.
Any strong wind blowing against the Gulf Stream can build large,
steep waves quickly. An ordinary winter Norther can build 20-foot-high
breaking waves in the Stream.
Don't forget hurricanes.
A fairly recent example of an almost-vanished ship was the loss of
the sailing ship Pride of Baltimore. The Pride was a reproduction of a
Baltimore Clipper, but held to modern safety specs.
One night she was westbound from Bermuda. Perfect sailing weather.
Unnoticed by the watch, a large storm steadily blotted out the stars
upwind. There was no lightning, so no one noticed the slowly-vanishing
stars.
When the squall line hit the Pride, she sailed herself underwater
in less than one minute.
Most of the crew survived simply because of modern lifesaving gear,
but a few people were trapped below. Not much at all of the Pride was
found.
You also mentioned the drift. Pieces of Challenger were found as far
north as Hatteras.
So, I think a large part of the reason nothing's found is that by
the time anyone notices a ship or airplane is missing, floating debris
can easily be 100 miles north of the estimated last position. Or it
could be in an eddy, and be east, or maybe even south.
I know that lots of odd effects have been reported in the Triangle,
but as to the veracity of those reports, who knows.
jbh
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From: John.Hicks@f29.n363.z1.FIDONET.ORG (John Hicks)
Subject: Mystery Teletype
Date: 8 Sep 90 16:20:01 GMT
> I think you are, that someone is breaking in on a military comm
Not the case. Simple US Mail.
jbh
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From: John.Hicks@f29.n363.z1.FIDONET.ORG (John Hicks)
Subject: Howard Blum
Date: 8 Sep 90 16:27:02 GMT
> I have just finished reading Howard Blum's book "Out There."
An extremely interesting book.
The appearance was that the spook put Blum onto the ufo thing in
order to relieve some of the pressure on himself, but of course it
could have been a setup.
Do you know specifically what errors Klass mentions?
jbh
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From: 'PAUL CARR, MISSION DESIGN, FAX: 609 490 3142' <CARR@astro.dnet.ge.com>
Subject: GIFfed photos
Date: 11 Sep 90 15:16:01 GMT
I have access to a scanner and have had some luck converting the TIFF
files it creates into GIFs on my Mac. the scanner is grey-scale only.
IF paranet users want to send me prints and a S.A.S.E. (assuming the prints
aren't your kids or dog, but really interesting), I'll try to GIF them.
It should only take a few minutes per print, not counting upload time.
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From: 'PAUL CARR, MISSION DESIGN, FAX: 609 490 3142' <CARR@astro.dnet.ge.com>
Subject: RE: Paranet Newsletter 299
Date: 11 Sep 90 17:09:36 GMT
I did attend one talk by an M.C. Lee of MIT concerning 'Fals Space-object
Signals'. Dr. Lee stated that the Millstone Hill radar had picked up false
signals he believes are associated with geophysical processes. These things can
evidently move around very rapidly, and may look like solid objects. There
is an abstract of this talk in the unclassified section of 'Proceedings of
the 1989 Space Surveillance Workshop,' which may be available from Lincoln
Labs (K.P. Schwan, ed.), although I don't think they like to hand out copies
freely. I have one, but am not authorized to distribute it.
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From: 'Douglas H. Hughes' <DOUG@ecla.psu.edu>
Subject: Gif pictures
Date: 11 Sep 90 17:10:11 GMT
Making a gif is not difficult if you have the equipment. I have
access to a Microtek scanner plugged into a MAC IIx computer. I can
get high resolution (about 800*640) 256 color pictures into Gif
files given a photograph to scan. I can also enlarge or shrink the
picture if anyone is interested. All I would need is a picture to
scan, and voila. Of course, I don't have unlimited access to it, but
I could conceivably do it for a couple of pictures.
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From: <MTG@csi.compuserve.com>
Subject: Creating digitized GIF pictures
Date: 12 Sep 90 11:12:10 GMT
+Now that's a great idea. Only trouble is, this network has had very little
+luck in 'commissioning' GIF artwork in the past, and I just don't know how its
+done. Can ANYONE out there give us some advice?
Jim, I've been digitizing for some time now; in fact, using CompuServe's
equipment to do so (since I work there) (the equipment, by the way, is
surprisingly primitive). I've gotten good results from it; the setup is
an Amiga 1000 with very little memory and the oldest possible DigiView
system hooked up; that's a video camera with color filters. Nonetheless,
a good picture can be had. Since most of my digitizing has been for
printing purposes, I digitize in 16 shades of grey, 640 x 400. It makes
for a clear B&W picture. The nice thing about the video camera is that it
can digitize things a flatbed scanner can't digitize, such as 3D objects.
I don't know that I could offer complete digitizing services, but I
could do a few -- my only problem would be transmitting the final product,
as I'm only hooked up to ParaNet via Internet gateway... would these
pictures be available by anonymous FTP or is there another way? It would
be nice for people like me if there were some way to get text files and
pictures from a listserver or some other mail route.
- Mark G.
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From: John.Hicks@f29.n363.z1.FIDONET.ORG (John Hicks)
Subject: Re: Mystery Teletype
Date: 11 Sep 90 16:02:00 GMT
CM> John, what date was the issue of the GB Sentinel that
August 16.
I think they received "complete" pictures, which only show an object
against a sky background. One may show a treetop. Really nothing to work
with in the photos.
CM> So, if the mystery message came over the
CM> newswire it really does present us with plenty of food for
To quote, "The puzzle piece came as an unsigned typewritten note."
I don't know where the newswire rumor got started, but it's completely
unfounded. We're talking US Mail.
jbh
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From: John.Hicks@f29.n363.z1.FIDONET.ORG (John Hicks)
Subject: Mystery Teletype
Date: 11 Sep 90 16:03:01 GMT
JS> Nope, lost my CIS account. Anything interesting?
Not really. 314 incidents involving 268 people now.
jbh
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From: John.Hicks@f29.n363.z1.FIDONET.ORG (John Hicks)
Subject: Ufo Crash In Russia
Date: 11 Sep 90 20:01:00 GMT
Seems to ring a bell that Antonio Huneeus had something on this.
jbh
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From: John.Hicks@f29.n363.z1.FIDONET.ORG (John Hicks)
Subject: Oprah Winfrey
Date: 11 Sep 90 20:07:01 GMT
One thing about Blum is that he's on the record in his book and other
places as being aware that he doesn't have all the facts, that there are
many holes and problems in his story, and that some of it may indeed be
disinformation (to paraphrase).
He *was* naive on the subject and would have been ripe for the picking.
Maybe that's why he didn't feel the need to defend himself. I think he knew
(and knows) it and readily agrees to that.
jbh
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From: David.Jacobs@f912.n273.z1.FIDONET.ORG (David Jacobs)
Subject: exoglyphs
Date: 12 Sep 90 21:18:42 GMT
Thanks for prompting me to leave a message here, Jim. The English
circles do not resemble the exoglyphs collected by Budd Hopkins. This
is not to say that they are not extraterrestrial or attempts at
communication--I do not know about this. I find the circles to be
intriguing and puzzling. I have no idea about their origin.
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From: Jerry.Seward@f4.n1010.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Jerry Seward)
Subject: Wheat Field Patterns
Date: 13 Sep 90 03:36:00 GMT
UNSOLVED MYSTERIES again presented an update to the mysterious circles
and geometric designs proliferating in southern England and in other
parts of the world.
Does anyone know of a source that can be contacted to obtain still
photographs of this phenomena?
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From: Tom Betz <tbetz@upaya.UCAR.EDU>
Subject: re: 'Out There' -- the review
Date: 13 Sep 90 13:21:40 GMT
| From: James Roger Black <jrblack@shemtaia.weeg.uiowa.edu>
| Subject: A review of 'Out There'
| Date: 9 Sep 90 05:18:31 GMT
|
|
| 'Out There: The Government's Secret Quest for Extraterrestrials'
| by Howard Blum (New York: Simon and Schuster, 1990), 300 pp.
|
| Reviewed by James Roger Black for the ParaNet Newsletter.
Thanks for the review, Roger! Was it synchronicity, or did you
really read my mind? <grin>
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From: 'MAJ ROBERT FLURY' <fluryr@gw1.hanscom.af.mil>
Subject: OUT THERE by Blum
Date: 14 Sep 90 03:17:26 GMT
I have read 'OUT THERE' by Blum. Clearly three areas deserve more
investigation:
The 'remote viewings.' Didn't they try to "view" the interiors?
Have the alleged proposed changes to the SETI contact protocals been adopted?
What was the motivation behind Doty's deceptions? Blum implies it was
a training exercise.
Bob Flury
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