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Info-ParaNet Newsletters Volume 1 Number 285
Info-ParaNet Newsletters Volume I Number 285
Wednesday, August 8th 1990
Today's Topics:
Re: Ufo's?
JFK Assassination makes news again
NEW JFK THEORY OUTLINED
Lazar-ium and more...
Deserters
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From: Greg.Booras@p0.f150.n30163.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Greg Booras)
Subject: Re: Ufo's?
Date: 6 Aug 90 16:07:00 GMT
Thanks Jim Ill find the book and read it....
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From: Gene Gross <gross@dg-rtp.dg.com>
Subject: JFK Assassination makes news again
Date: 7 Aug 90 15:17:27 GMT
The CIA has claimed that what Texan Ricky White says is 'ludicrous.'
The FBI claims that the information is 'not credible.' Still Ricky
White maintains that his father, Roscoe White, was a CIA operative
assigned to obtain a job on the Dallas PD and to participate in the
assassination of JFK.
Ricky White claims that his father was situated on the grassy knoll,
accounting for the reports of smoke being seen from the knoll during the
killing of the President.
Other investigators into the assassination are not so sure that Ricky
isn't telling the truth. Jim Garrison, former New Orleans prosecutor
who maintains that the CIA was involved based on his own investigation,
said, 'There is the possibility that this is valid because there are so
many points where this kind of statement...usually veers off into
unbelievability. This statement continued to ring true.'
Larry Howard, director of the JFK Assassination Center in Dallas, said,
'We hope the [Texas] attorney general will reopen the case. The federal
government has done two investigations but they haven't done it right
yet.'
Personal note: whether or not Ricky is telling the truth isn't the
point. The point is that when you've examined the evidence and looked
at in the light of the actual killing you come away with this nagging
feeling that the truth has not been told. Why was a man in one frame
of the Zapruder film standing there with no umbrella, then when the
Presidential limo comes to a certain point the man opens an umbrella?
It was a bright sunny day--no rain. Why were puffs of smoke seen from
the grassy knoll if there wasn't another gunman involved? There are
many incidents that have not been laid to rest yet, and with each
attempt to do so, more questions arise.
We may never know the truth, but that shouldn't prevent us from
searching for it.
Gene
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From: mailrus!uunet!convex!swarren (Steve Warren)
Subject: NEW JFK THEORY OUTLINED
Date: 7 Aug 90 17:21:16 GMT
I am not a JFK conspiracy buff, but at the same time there are things
about the Warren Commission Report that don't make sense, so I am
'interested'.
This doesn't relate to UFOs, but I've seen various references to the
JFK theories here, so I thought there might be some interest in this
story. This story ran today (8/7/90) in the Dallas Morning News. I
doubt anyone outside of Dallas will see it, since the media considers
all JFK conspiracy proponents to be nutcases. Many of them *are*
nutcases, but that does not necessarilly mean that there was no conspiracy.
As in the UFO controversy, it is easy for ridicule to become an impenetrable
wall against the truth.
Enjoy...
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NEW JFK THEORY OUTLINED
Midland Man Offers Account Saying His Father Carried Out Orders To
Assassinate The President
By David Real and Frank Trejo
Staff Writers of The Dallas Morning News
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A nervous 29-year-old Midland man on Monday sketched a teary-eyed account of
how his father fired the shots that killed President John F. Kennedy in Dallas
in 1963.
Roscoe Anthony White carried out the assassination on orders from officials of
U.S. agencies, probably including the CIA, according to his son.
But the newest assassination suspect has been dead 18 years, the diary in
which he supposedly admitted the crime is missing, his wife is too sick to
respond to media questions, and private investigators refused to release the
names of living co-conspirators or dozens of witnesses they say were killed to
cover up the conspiracy.
CIA officials strongly denied any involvement and expressed skepticism about
the account.
Mr. White's son, Ricky Don White, and more than a half-dozen others presented
the assassination claim at a news conference at the JFK Assassination
Information Center in the West End MarketPlace.
The newest assassination account centers on Roscoe Anthony 'Rock' White, who
was hired by the Dallas Police Department as a photographer and clerk six
weeks before the assassination.
According to the conspiracy account, Mr. White and Oswald knew each other as
Marines while stationed in the Philipines in 1958 as part of a mission
regarding U-2 flights over the Soviet Union. The account states that:
o Mr. White fired two shots at the presidential motorcade on Nov. 22, 1963,
from his position behind a picket fence on the right side of a tree on the
grassy knoll. One shot hit Mr. Kennedy in the throat and another, the fatal
shot, struck him in the head. Mr. White also killed Officer J.D. Tippit when
the patrolman threatened to prevent Mr. White and Oswald from escaping to Red
Bird Airport. 'I know that my father had to live with that for the rest of
his life because J.D. Tippit was a close friend of my father's,' Ricky White
said.
o Two other assassins fired two shots each at the president. One, code-named
'Lebanon,' was working for an air-conditioning crew and fired from the Texas
School Book Depository. The other, code-named 'Saul,' worked for a
janitorial service and fired from the Dallas County Records Building.
The identities of the two men were not released.
o Oswald, who was identified as the lone assassin by the Warren Commission
report in 1964, never fired a shot.
o Geneva White, Roscoe White's wife, overheard her husband plotting the
assassination with Jack Ruby, who employed her at his Carousel Club for three
weeks in September 1963. Mr. Ruby and Mr. White discussed plans to kill
Oswald during the extensive media coverage after the assassination. Mrs.
White agreed to four sessions of electroshock treatment to erase her memory
of the meetings and save the lives of herself and her family.
o Mr. White was under orders of government officials, probably including some
from the CIA, to assassinate Mr. Kennedy 'to eliminate a national security
threat to world-wide peace.' The orders, addressed to 'Mandarin," Mr.
White's code name, instructed him to travel to Dallas in September 1963.
Another order, written by 'Navy Int.' the month after the assassination,
instructed Mandarin that 'the men will be in to cover up all misleading
evidence soon.'
o A brown hardcover book owned by Mr. White lists the names of several dozen
people in a 'witness elimination list.' At least two dozen witnesses listed
in the book are now dead.
o Mr. White was killed under 'mysterious circumstances' in an industrial fire
and explosion in 1971. Ricky White said he believed that his father was
killed for trying to sever ties with U.S. intelligence operations. Ricky
White decided to investigate on his own after witnessing the suffering of his
father, who died 26 hours after receiving third-degree burns on 99 percent of
his body.
Ricky White told reporters at the news conference that he wanted to expose the
government forces that covered up the facts of the assassination.
'My father was an individual that I loved and deeply admired , even today,' he
said. 'He was told be our government to do something. ... You don't question
the government.'
He said he learned about his father's role in the assassination from a diary
that he found in 1982. But when he took the diary to the FBI in 1988, Ricky
White said, he was frightened by five hours of intense questioning. After
Mr. White returned home with the diary, Midland FBI agent Tom Ferris asked to
retrieve his FBI notebook from the box containing the diary. Later, Mr. White
said, he discovered that the diary was missing. He said he does not know who
has the diary, and he never allowed anyone else to read it.
'It's something that you don't take down to your next-door neighbors and let
them read,' he said. 'Even today, I wouldn't share it with outsiders because
it's a part of my father that I didn't know. I knew a person who was a whole
lot different person, a man that I loved and treasured.'
He said his discovery of the diary was 'shocking' because his father "never
gave the impression of being a bad guy, of being involved in anything.'
'I know that y'all are taking one man's word on a diary that doesn't exist,
but I'm an individual that will tell you the truth,' he said.
Mr. White said a proposed book deal fell through last year, but he hoped a
movie could be made of his story. He said he has not earned any money from
his story 'at this time.'
FBI officials in Midland and Washington declined to comment on the
allegations.
Ricky White asked Monday for investigations by Texas Attorney General Jim
Mattox and Dallas County District Attorney John Vance.
Ron Dusek, a spokesman for Mr. Mattox, said his office is willing to review
Mr. White's charges.
'But of course we'd need the cooperation of the federal government in order to
verify,' Mr. Dusek said.
So far, he said, the federal government appears to be satisfied with the results
of the Warren Commission investigation.
Mr. Vance did not return calls for comment.
Gus Rose, who investigated the Kennedy assassination as a Dallas police
homicide detective in 1963, said he had never heard of Roscoe White until
Monday.
Mr. Rose speculated that perhaps Mr. White worked in the physical evidence
section of the Police department and may have obtained information and
evidence through his duties. Mr. Rose said he remembers hauling in 'a
truckload of evidence' from Oswald's house that Mr. White could have obtained.
'I'm convinced this is just another one of those conspiracies theories, like
the guy who was convinced that someone other than Oswald was in Oswald's
grave,' Mr. Rose said. 'To me there's no question that Oswald killed Tippit."
Officer Tippit's widow, Marie Thomas, agreed.
'I don't know what he's talking about, I don't understand the reason why he's
saying that,' Mrs. Thomas said. 'We know for a fact there were several
witnesses, and at least one of them was willing to come forward, to say that
Oswald shot J.D.'
Ricky White did not turn 3 years old until Nov. 24, 1963, but said he vaguely
remembers seeing his father and four others rehearse the assassination by
firing into an automobile on the remote McVay Ranch in Van Horn. Each visit
seems to recall more memories, he said.
Mrs. William McVay of Van Horn confirmed that Ricky White visited her ranch
about two months ago and told her the target practice story. He told her that
the men involved in the shooting had stayed at an old house, dating back to
1880, on the property. But Mrs. McVay said she laughed at him.
'We never heard of such a thing. I don't see how he could remember something
that happened to him when he was 3 years old,' Mrs. McVay said.
Mrs. McVay said she and her husband bought the ranch in 1967, several years
after the practice would have taken place. People who owned the home in 1963
could not be reached for comment.
Paul McCaghren, who was a Dallas police lieutenant in 1963 and served on a
special police committee investigating the JFK assassination, said he first
began hearing stories about the alleged Roscoe White involvement six or seven
months ago. Since that time, he has been trying to find anyone who might have
known Mr. White, but 'no one's ever heard of the guy.'
'He was just a nonentity. This young man may believe his father killed
Kennedy, but it's just not so,' Mr. McCaghren said.
'There are people who are going to be coming forward with assassination
theories for 200 years.'
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Staff writers Christopher Elliot and Olive Talley contributed to this report.
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Photos:
Color photo of young Caucasian man who appears to be in his mid-twenties. He
is wearing a baseball hat and a plaid shirt. He has the appearance of a
football player (square jaw, muscular neck, suntanned). He looks like a Texas
'good-old-boy'. Caption:
'Ricky Don White offers his account Monday outside the JFK Assassination
Information Center.'
Old grainy black-and-white photo shows a man in a suit seated with elbow on
knee, chin on fist, contemplating an attractive (she has the figure of a
model) young lady posing in a 60's style short miniskirt, wearing high
heels. She appears to be in her early twenties. She is standing with one leg
crossed in front of the other, hands on hips, and eyes half-closed in a sultry
expression. Caption:
'An archive photo shows Jack Ruby admiring the figure of Ricky Don White's
mother, Geneva White. Mr. White says his mother heard her husband plotting
with Mr. Ruby, who employed her at his Carousel Club for three weeks in
September 1963.'
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--Steve ._||__ DISCLAIMER: All opinions are my own.
Warren v\ *| ----------------------------------------------
V {uunet,sun}!convex!swarren; swarren@convex.COM
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From: mcneely@oxy.edu (Geoffrey Scott McNeely)
Subject: Lazar-ium and more...
Date: 7 Aug 90 19:26:14 GMT
In response to Tyson Michener's request regarding significant goings-ons
on August 6:
Late night on the 5th, around 9pm (of course, already the 6th in GB, right?)
Los Angeles began getting a wonderful thunderstorm and lightning display,
which continued again on Monday night (the 6th here) and of course this
night also contained a beautiful FULL MOON. Nevertheless, I think I can
say that it has been rather ominous around here the past few days.
BTW, I assume that the GB six could easily have known from an almanac or
calendar that the 6th had a full moon. What better harbinger of change
exists? I was very impressed by Nature's dance last night, and I must not
overlook the fact that the air, as is common in electrical storms, was full
of energy and excitement. To me, this is significant. I was anxiously
awaiting to see what became of our anti-christ. Appearantly nothing so far,
just another harmless (relatively) lightning storm. Not an omen.
(We all hope with a nervous grin and fingers crossed)
Geoff McNeely
Occidental College
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From: Tyson.Mitchiner@f134.n109.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Tyson Mitchiner)
Subject: Deserters
Date: 6 Aug 90 03:06:00 GMT
Well.. Let's see what happens tomorrow (August 6th).. Personally I
don't think anything special will happen, but I'll keep my eyes open
anyway.
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