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Info-ParaNet Newsletters Volume 1 Number 242
Info-ParaNet Newsletters, Number 242
Sunday, June 10th 1990
Today's Topics:
UFO Questionaire
Press Release / UFO Spotlight
Re: SURVEY
treaty
UFO Questionaire
Re: Sonic booms & UFO's
Re: serious heat
Re: The Real Facts
Re: The Real Facts
Re: serious heat
Recent Developments
Gene Huff replies to charges from Cooper
Huff Part II
Huff Part III - Conclusion
THEM
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From: paranet!p0.f740.n115.z1.FIDONET.ORG!John.Burke
Subject: UFO Questionaire
Date: 6 Jun 90 01:56:55 GMT
<Disclaimer>: I wanted to check my replies against the questions to
make sure I had the "right" answers, but the questionaire already
scrolled off this board. Anyway, here goes:
1-3, 2-1, 3-2, 4-2, 5-3, 6-1, 7-3, 8-1, 9-2, 10-4, 11-3, 12-4, 13-1,
14-2, 15-4, 16-2 (I think - illegible overwrite), 17-4, 18-1, 19-1,
20-3, 21-4, 22-1, 23-3, 24-4, 25-1, 26-2, 27-1, 28-1, 29-4, 30-2.
UFOs appear to be intelligently-controlled, solid objects, whose
"pilots" are "low-profiled" to the point of being deceptive. I don't
think that's something we should be paranoid about though, because if
they were going to do something "bad" to us, they would have done it
already, just like network TV, Congress, the IRS, and the FidoNet UFO
Echo. :-) BTW, who grades this? -- John
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From: paranet!f134.n109.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Tyson.Mitchiner
Subject: Press Release / UFO Spotlight
Date: 6 Jun 90 05:20:00 GMT
What network will carry "UFO Spotlight"? Or will it just be in
California, and not broadcasted on FOX, CBS, NNBC ABC, PBS, etc?
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From: paranet!f414.n154.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Pete.Porro
Subject: Re: SURVEY
Date: 5 Jun 90 19:51:47 GMT
Point/Question covers it all quite well. Something is out there. It has been
seen and reported all over the planet. Something has been phtographed. Radar
Sightings are confirmed. #29 says it. If it flys and it can't be identified
it's a UFO...
Now back to the science and research, what are all these people seeing? WHY?
I'm still waiting for a reasonable solid answer.
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From: paranet!p0.f701.n362.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Robin.Gober
Subject: treaty
Date: 4 Jun 90 06:36:27 GMT
on 24-may-90 07:46am
The ol'man wrote;
Consider the inverse: if government had npotified the people that ETs
were amoung us and then some of the stuff that is currently going on had
been pinned onthe ETs the citizens would demand the government stop it
to the best of their ability.......So they agree to "mutual benefit"
treaty with the Government to keep the Government off their backs. ....
my answer
You know the more I get into these I realize that my view is altered
because of how I got into this area. As you probaly know I have been
dealing with my Post-traumatic Stress Disorder. Since my contac with
these guys is what brought about my PTSD. I probaly will have a hard
time believeing that they would worry about what we can do to them. I
What I have to do is take my view of these guys when I was a young
child and match it to what I know now. I the adult have no real fear of
them. But the young boy in me doesn't ever want to trust them.
Well I am out of time later....
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From: paranet!p5.f701.n362.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Frances.Jones
Subject: UFO Questionaire
Date: 3 Jun 90 23:46:41 GMT
>-------------------------------------------------------
>1. Some flying saucers have tried to communicate with us.
>Probably true
>2. All UFO reports can be explained either as well understood happenings
>or as hoaxes.
definatley false
>3. The Air Force has done an adequate job of investigation of UFO
>reports and UFOs generally.
probably true, since not all that they have learned has ever been made public.
>
4. No actual, physical evidence has ever been obtained from a UFO.
Probably false
>5. A government agency maintains a Top Secret file of UFO reports that
>are deliberately withheld from the public.
probably true
>6. No airline pilots have seen UFOs.
Definatley false
>
>7. Most people would not report seeing a UFO for fear of losing a job.
Probably false
>
>8. No authentic photographs have ever been taken of UFOs.
probably false
>
>9. Persons who believe they have communicated with visitors from outer
>space are mentally ill.
probably false
>
>10. The Air Force was told to explain all UFO sightings reported to them
>as natural or man-made happenings or events.
probably true
>
>11. Earth has been visited at least once in its history by beings from
>another world.
probably true
>
>12. The government should spend more money than it does now to study
>what UFOs are and where they come from.
probably false, Who knows how much they are already spending. They certainly
would not make the amount public since they deny their existence.
>
>13. Intelligent forms of life cannot exist elsewhere in the universe.
definatley false
>
>14. Flying saucers can be explained scientifically without any important
>new discoveries.
definately false
>
>15. Some UFOs have landed and left marks in the ground.
probably true
>
>16. Most UFOs are due to secret defense projects, either ours or another
>country's.
probably false
>
>17. UFOs are reported throughout the world.
definately true
>
>18. The government has done a good job of examining UFO reports.
probably false.
>
>19. There have never been any UFO sightings in the Soviet Union.
probably false
>
>20. People want to believe that life exists elsewhere than on Earth.
probably true
>
>21. There have been good radar reports of UFOs.
definately true
>
>22. There is no government secrecy about UFOs.
definately false
>
>23. People have seen space ships that have not come from this planet.
definately true
>
>24. Some UFO reports have come from astronomers.
definately true
>
>25. Even the most unusual UFO report could be explained by the laws of
>science if we knew enough about science.
probably false
>
>26. People who do *not* believe in flying saucers must be stupid.
definately false. They simply have not seen the evidence.
>
>27. UFO reports have not been taken seriously by any government agency.
probably false.
>
>28. Government secrecy about UFOs is an idea made up by newspapers.
probably false
>
>29. Science has established that there are such things as "Unidentified
>Flying Objects."
probably true
>
>30. Abduction reports are the result of hallucinations.
probably false
>
>Finally, what do you believe UFOs to be?
I feel that there are intelligent life forms, other than ours, on other
planets. They are possibly...no, probably very far ahead of us in technology of
most things, but possibly very far behind us in the technology of others. I
also feel that they have visited our planet before, are doing so now, and will
continue to do so in the future.
FJ
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From: paranet!p5.f701.n362.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Frances.Jones
Subject: Re: Sonic booms & UFO's
Date: 4 Jun 90 00:04:37 GMT
In a message of <30 May 90 16:05:00>, Jim Delton (1:114/37) writes:
>It happened at night, around 9 PM. I'm not aware of any neighboors
>hearing anything.
With my experience, the maajority of the neighborhood heard the same thing I
did, only at different times. Approximately 1 to 2 minutes apart.
FJ
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From: paranet!f5.n30223.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Gene.Gross
Subject: Re: serious heat
Date: 6 Jun 90 07:46:00 GMT
Jim:
Called a Colonel friend of mine and have not been able to confirm
anything about a shooting of aliens at Fort Dix. Wish TSB would
provide some evidence to support his statements. My friend thinks this
is merely a hoax. If I find out anymore about this, I'll post it.
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From: paranet!f5.n30223.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Gene.Gross
Subject: Re: The Real Facts
Date: 6 Jun 90 08:16:00 GMT
Don:
Sounds like G.A. is working for an outfit that I left a long time
ago--they told where I could go and what I could do. <GRIN>
This is getting a bit out of the ballpark. Frankly, to h##l with
'em. Let's move this on down the road and into the 21st Century.
When we going to start our own cable channel!? <GRIN>
--
Gene Gross
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From: paranet!f5.n30223.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Gene.Gross
Subject: Re: The Real Facts
Date: 6 Jun 90 08:31:00 GMT
how in the world is this a subtle ad for Paranet!!? Give me a break!
Hey, I have absolute proof that UFOs are not only real, but there are
these wonderful aliens who have come to serve mankind!! Problem is I
can't tell you where the files are because of some dumba## gag order
from the moderator.
And everyone is out there saying, "Yeah right, bozo!" This just
frost my buns!
--
Gene "Steam off for now" Gross
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From: paranet!f37.n114.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Jim.Speiser
Subject: Re: serious heat
Date: 7 Jun 90 04:06:00 GMT
> Jim:
> Called a Colonel friend of mine and have not been able to confirm
> anything about a shooting of aliens at Fort Dix. Wish TSB would provide
> some evidence to support his statements. My friend thinks this is
> merely a hoax. If I find out anymore about this, I'll post it.
Thanks, Gene. TSB will trot out a 1569 form, no doubt, but anyone in the
military can get their hands on one of them.
Jim
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From: paranet!p0.f12.n265.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Kay.Mclaughlin
Subject: Recent Developments
Date: 7 Jun 90 23:04:56 GMT
Jim,
I saw the Joan Rivers show that day. I didn't get the name of the
"Implant victim".
Joan when looking at it said it looked like a little black box.
The guy said that it had microscopic wires sticking out from it.
He said it came out of his lower abdominal area (wouldn't be specific).
Basically thats all I remember, I was half watching as I was doing
somthing else at the time.
Hope this helps, I know it's not much.
Kay
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From: paranet!f0.n9.z9.FIDONET.ORG!Michael.Corbin
Subject: Gene Huff replies to charges from Cooper
Date: 7 Jun 90 23:46:00 GMT
DATE OF UPLOAD: June 7, 1990
ORIGIN OF UPLOAD: Gene Huff
CONTRIBUTED BY: Gene Huff
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NOTE: THESE FILES ARE NOT FOR REDISTRIBUTION OUTSIDE
OF THE PARANET INFORMATION SERVICE NETWORK
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June 7, 1990
Recently ParaNet received a call from Gene Huff, Las Vegas real
estate appraiser and close friend of Robert Lazar, stating that
he wished to place a clarification on ParaNet for the record
regarding Lazar's recent felony indictment on a count of
Pandering in Las Vegas, Nevada by the Clark County Sheriff's
Department. Lazar, in a public statement made on KLAS-TV in
April, admittedly told on camera that he had been involved in a
brothel in the Las Vegas area by assisting in the installation of
computer and security equipment. Shortly after that, following
an investigation by authorities, charges were brought against
Lazar. He could get up to five years if convicted.
The big question now is: Does this damage Lazar's credibility
along with KLAS-TV reporter George Knapp, who featured Lazar on a
news special in November 1989?
According to Huff and the statement that follows, the answer is a
big no.
What has further clouded the issue has been Bill Cooper's attacks
on Lazar and Knapp for their participation in what Cooper calls
"government disinformation activity." Cooper, a self-styled UFO
"guru" who claims to have seen super-secret UFO documents aboard
a Navy ship while enlisted in the early 1970s, has made various
statements about Lazar, Lear, Knapp and a host of other UFO
researchers being government agents intent on disinforming the
public.
The following is a letter received via ParaFAX on June 4, 1990
from Gene Huff.
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Mike,
I am a Las Vegas real estate appraiser and I have known Bob
Lazar since late 1985, John Lear since mid-1988, and George Knapp
since early 1989. I thought some of the members of your service
[ParaNet] might need some actual FACTS regarding some of the
accusations and allegations made by Milton W. Cooper. I've
written the following pages which you may use, if you choose to
do so.
MILTON W. COOPER IS A LIAR. Period.
So Cooper learned poker from granny and love from Annie,
huh? Too bad he didn't learn anything from George Washington and
the cherry tree briefing. The actual story of the "Bob Lazar-
prostitution connection" is as follows:
Bob Lazar and his late first wife, Carol, owned a legal
brothel in northern Nevada during the early 1980's, so Bob was
familiar with the brothel business. Recently, he ran into a
hooker who was running a small brothel here in Las Vegas. Bob
gave her a bunch of ideas on how she could efficiently run her
business. She asked him to help her and said she would pay him
for his consultation. I guess this kind of parallels attorneys
receiving their fees from clients with questionable vocations,
but I won't argue that point here. He helped her by installing a
computer, doing some computer programming, accounting,
installing security cameras and monitors, etc. When all of the
systems were running smoothly, Bob was going to leave as he felt
he had already received money commensurate with what he felt he
had contributed. She offered him money just to stay around and
do nothing, which seemed strange, but Bob was going to part ways
anyway, and the worst thing that could have happened, happened.
this hooker had fallen madly in love with Bob. In a serious
talk, she made her feelings known to him. She asked how sexually
attractive she was to him on a scale from 1 to 10. Bob "Mr.
Compassion" Lazar told her that, to him, she was a 1. She cried
for a day and a half.
This news was impossible to take for a woman who had for
years had men calling her on a daily basis offering to pay her
money to have sex with her. As it ends up, she is a Las Vegas
Metro Vice, FBI, and DEA informant. Now she has implicated him
as being much more involved than he actually was, for obvious
motives. He has not yet been charged, but with her connections,
it appears certain that he will be. this was all exposed by Bob
Lazar ON TELEVISION here in Las Vegas. This required no
investigation by Cooper or the knuckleheads from vice. There is
much more to this story which is better saved until Bob Lazar's
freedom is certain.
The story of Bob Lazar running a drug lab is totally false.
He is currently doing some research at a small, privately funded
lab here in Las Vegas. The lab was recently randomly visited by
one active duty Las Vegas cop, and another ex-Las Vegas cop who
both witnessed that nothing illegal or as ludicrous as drug
manufacturing was going on there. Naturally, Sherlock Cooper
didn't know this.
These are just two more classic examples of Cooper
misinterpreting an elementary body of information and jumbling it
to fit his distorted view of the world around him. This leaves
only Cooper to interpret what is "truth" while draped in an
American flag. Cooper labels his opponents as part of a
government band of conspirators, which is anyone who doesn't
believe him, disagrees with him, or actually knows and
understands the true source of his information, which in turn, is
anyone who has ever heard him speak or has read what he has
written.
Cooper speaks as though Bob Lazar and John Lear are one
item. These are two separate men with very different ideas. Bob
Lazar's story is not phony, and he is not part of a band of
government agents. I knew him before he met John Lear, and
before he worked at S 4. I was with him the first and second
times he met Lear and they had no prior contact before that. As
far as one of them working for the other, what a joke.
I was present at both of Bob Lazar's polygraph sessions.
These were prior to George Knapp's November 1989 special. the
first night included two polygraphs with the same identical
questions being asked both times. He passed one and failed on.
This is why the results were considered inconclusive by the first
polygrapher and subsequent tests were suggested BY THE
POLYGRAPHER. The second test was done at a completely different
company, about a month later. Similar, but different questions
were asked and Bob Lazar passed. The polygraphs from the second
night were then reviewed by another polygrapher who also agreed
that he had passed. The polygraphs from the second night were
then sent to a third polygrapher in San Francisco, who was of the
opinion that the Federal government wouldn't lie about something
like this, and he said he thought the results were inconclusive.
So to be fair, George Knapp said the results were inconclusive.
Actually, four polygraphers reviewed the two night's tests. One
polygrapher stated the first night's tests were inconclusive.
Two polygraphers stated that he had passed the second night's
tests, and one polygrapher thought the second night's tests were
inconclusive. This doesn't sound like as big of a failure as
Cooper makes it, does it?
The problem with Cooper's polygraph challenge is two-fold.
First, one of those challenged want to associate publicly or
privately with Cooper. Second, when someone actually believes
their lies, they register as truth on the polygraph. So for
obvious reasons, there is nothing to be gained by those
challenged. Although you must admit, Cooper and a polygraph is
an amusing thought.
Bob Lazar does NOT develop dosimeter badges at Los Alamos
and Sandia labs. He manufactures and repairs alpha radiation
probes. He even owns a patent on one particular kind. Even an
amateur sleuth like Cooper could have access to that information.
Cooper is on the record on the Billy Goodman show as stating
that he checked Bob Lazar out, and that what Bob Lazar was
stating was true. (Not that Bob Lazar cared what Cooper
thought.) I guess Cooper has a lot of trouble with these sudden
changes of mind.
Cooper overstated his exposure to Bob Lazar via John Lear.
Bob met Cooper twice at Lear's house. Kris, Bob's sister-in-law,
was with him one time, and they both came home of the opinion
that Cooper was crazy. The second time, I was invited but
declined since it appeared obvious to me that Cooper had taken
the Kennedy assassination information from the film "Dallas
Revisited," narrated by Lars Hansen, and I did not want to
associate with Cooper in public, or privately. Bob went as a
favor to John Lear and although can't remember if anyone
accompanied him, his opinion of Cooper didn't change.
Cooper acts as though Lear and Lazar were "leaking"
information to him. Remember, only recently has Cooper become
the "World's Leading Authority on UFOs." Back then he was just a
sailor who said he saw a craft when he was in the Navy, no one
worthy of "leaking" anything to. And in reality that's all that
Cooper WASN'T and ISN'T important enough to perform for, even in
a joking manner. He shouldn't flatter himself in thinking that
the government would launch an attack on him. No one needs to
discredit Cooper, he has discredited himself. Those groups that
want to march to Washington to get amnesty for secret project
participants who want to speak out, had better not go there with
Cooper. Anyone that can access the classified library (and there
are thousands nationwide), knows that many of the dates and
events Cooper speaks about are inaccurate. And the events and
dates that are accurate have generally been stated on the record
by others BEFORE Cooper is on the record as having stated them.
Anyway, he'd get laughed out of Washington. This Cooper
controversy appears to pretty much be a regional issue in the
West and Southwest U.S., thanks to the Billy Goodman show, and
now Cooper has turned on him, too. Authors and researchers from
all over the world have come to Las Vegas and met Bob Lazar. The
one common denominator that links all of them is that they all
know of at least one instance in which they don't believe Cooper,
either. This list of people includes, but is certainly not
limited to, Timothy Goode, Linda Howe, Jacques' Vallee', Budd
Hopkins, Bill Moore, etc. Incidentally, Bob Lazar chose not to
meet with Bill Moore. Within the first 15 minutes George Knapp
and I talked to Moore, Moore admitted not only lying and giving
out disinformation, he also said that he was the one who had
stolen the missing "metal" from the Billy Meier's investigators.
He said he had it analyzed and it could have been made here on
Earth. Since he was a self professed liar and thief, Bob Lazar
declined to meet him. We still wonder why he didn't let the
stolen Meier's metal resurface if it was a fake. Maybe he lied
about that, too. Anyway, it's a shame, because he's an
intelligent man and he could be a positive force.
Cooper's claims about Project Excalibur and O.H. Krill will
be covered in an upcoming issue of UFO Magazine so I won't go
into that here.
I have seen polaroid pictures of Falcon and Condor from the
set of the Fox Television Network a couple of years ago. I don't
know if their segments were taped or live, however, these
pictures were taken by two guys who had access to the set. I did
not recognize either of the gentlemen, but neither was John Lear.
If someone wanted to investigate whether or not John Lear is
Condor, I suggest that someone find out from the producers of the
show when Falcon and Condor did their segments. At that time,
John Lear was flying for American Trans Air as an L-1011 captain
on flights to Hawaii, Germany, etc. The flight logs should at
least be able to narrow down whether Lear was in the air or for
that matter even in this country at the time Falcon and Condor
were present. Although I personally find it hard to believe that
anyone would care enough one way or another to go through that
much trouble. Since George Knapp's May 1990 special news
segments, Cooper has been recorded on audio tape in a
conversation with a Las Vegas resident as saying that he's so
pissed that Lear exposed him as lying about the O.H. Krill papers
that if Lear were in front of him right then, he'd "Shoot the son
of a bitch." Yet through all of Cooper's attacks on Lear, Lear
still insists that Cooper had an original contribution. If
that's true, it's unfortunate because it has now been lost
because of Cooper's subsequent actions. This is a waste because
even though Cooper is an amateurish writer (as am I), he is a
semi-adequate public speaker who arouses people. If people will
take Cooper's advice and read and investigator for themselves,
I'm sure they'll make their own decisions on Cooper soon enough.
George Knapp was not AFRAID to call Cooper prior to his
special. Knapp had previously interviewed Cooper and had
apparently heard enough back then. Cooper got his rightful share
of time in both of Knapp's specials. George Knapp's career is
not in danger. Knapp knows more about Lazar than does the
general public, which includes Cooper. Knapp is just required to
establish Lazar's credentials before moving on to some of the
more exciting subjects Bob Lazar has commented on. Hopefully
Knapp will make his May 1990 news segments into an expanded
special so we can possibly hear some more testimony as to
Cooper's credibility.
Cooper has publicly stated that he will tell his version of
the show of force by the gray aliens in central Nevada in 1979 in
his upcoming book. I hope it's not the same story Bob Lazar and
I told on the Billy Goodman show in 1989. I would hate for that
story to have mysteriously made it from the radio in 1989 all the
way back to the reports Cooper allegedly read between 1970 and
1973. After all, this event hadn't even happened yet. Not even
Cooper could try that, could he?
Through all of this I have noticed only one solid connection
with Cooper and the Nixon Administration and that is that both
Milton W. Cooper and Richard M. Nixon both have upper lips which
perspire profusely when they're lying.
I guess the most amusing thing that has happened in the last
two years is that know Cooper has suddenly become a tough guy, at
least through his eyes. He calls everyone else wimps, and liars,
and traitors. I and many others are of the opinion that if they
cast for the part of WIMPY in the broadway version of POPEYE,
Cooper would be a lock for the part. And if indeed information,
not money, is the power of the 90's, Cooper will keep "borrowing"
from everyone involved, but don't worry, he'll gladly pay you
Tuesday.
When all of the dust has settled, I don't think Milton W.
Cooper's nickname will any longer be Bill. I think it could be
Willie or probably even "Uncle Miltie," after all if the shoe
fits, right?
Gene Huff
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From: 'W. K. (Bill) Gorman' <34AEJ7D@cmuvm.bitnet>
Subject: THEM
Date: 8 Jun 90 15:26:59 GMT
Has anyone considered the following two hypotheses as explanations
for the presence of UFOs, assuming for the moment that they are
artifacts created/guided by some intelligence at least equal to
our own?
1. Sightseers. It may be that Earth has some very unique
experiences to offer along these lines, which can only
be experienced/appreciated from the air. Any of you
who are pilots will know what I mean.
2. Military, temporarily based here for purposes not directly
involving Earth. This could parallel what we did in the Pacific
during WWII, when bombers directed against Japan were based
on islands populated by scientifically unsophisticated natives.
The impact on these native peoples was great, but for the most
part purely incidental to our war effort. Could we be in the
same position? Abductions, etc., might then be explaonable
as troop misconduct, in the same manner that instances of
inappropriate behavior arise around every military installation,
in peace or war, to some degree.
In either case (1) or (2) I submit that we are no more in a position
to judge 'their' capabilities, level of technology or mindset than
were the natives on those long-ago islands able to understand the
bombers and their crews. If I recall correctly, they tended to
interpret them in terms of their own level of technology/mythology.
Aren't we doing the same by presuming that 'they' are here for
reasons having anything at all to do with us directly?
Just a few thoughts to fan the flames... :-)
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