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Info-ParaNet Newsletters Volume 1 Number 215
Info-ParaNet Newsletters, Number 215
Monday, May 7th 1990
Today's Topics:
water-powered engines?
Re: Magnetic grid?
Magnetic grid?
Re: Knapp/lazar
HOLIDAY INN - COLLINS AVE
Re: KNAPP/LAZAR
MAGNETIC MAPS
Re: Sonic booms & UFO's
Billy Meir
Re: Sonic Booms & UFOs
UFOs Abound
Magnetic grid?
Re: UFO'S AND THE CIA
Re: UFO'S AND THE CIA
Re: Magnetic grid?
Re: KNAPP/LAZAR
Re: Magnetic grid?
MAGNETIC MAPS
Bill Cooper's Downfall
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From: Jim Shaffer Jr <72750.2335@compuserve.com>
Subject: water-powered engines?
Date: 6 May 90 07:02:30 GMT
According to the Associated Press, Yoshiro Nakamatsu, who invented the floppy
disk, has unveiled an engine that runs ON WATER ALONE at an inventor's
convention near Pittsburgh.
I'd like to hear comments on the possibility of this. We've certainly heard
free energy stories before, but this is happening here and now. Does anyone
know anything about how this engine supposedly runs?
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From: paranet!p0.f102.n268.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Paul.Faeder
Subject: Re: Magnetic grid?
Date: 5 May 90 03:23:50 GMT
In a message of <03 May 90 09:56:00>, Jim Delton (1:114/37) writes:
>I don't see any reason to expect the earth to have a magnetic grid.
>Often you see a "grid" on drawings as a way to represent the pattern of
>the magnetic field, but that is the same as weather maps that show isobar
>lines.
Could be Jim, I honestly don't know. I was thinking back to the days of
elementary school science and the experiment consisting of a bar magnet, a
piece of paper and iron filings. When the filings are sprinkled on the paper
and the paper is tapped, the filings moved and sort-of formed lines. Whether or
not these lines are fixed in place or changable as in isobar lines I don't
know.
If they are fixed, or if there are strong/weak spots of magnetism, I would
think there would be a map showing these locations ('course I could be wrong.
Wouldn't be the first time!)
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From: paranet!p0.f102.n268.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Paul.Faeder
Subject: Magnetic grid?
Date: 5 May 90 03:34:08 GMT
In a message of <03 May 90 21:22:00>, Jim Speiser (1:114/37) writes:
>It would, indeed, and I didn't mean to throw cold water on the idea. Its
>worth looking into, as long as you don't unconsciously skew your data.
Actually I'm looking to see if there is some sort of pattern. For instance,
why are UFOs "hanging around" certain areas? They seem to come to an area like
the Hudson Valley, Gulf Breeze, Fyffe Alabama; stay around for a while and then
go away. What is in these areas that are of interest to the UFOnauts? Whatever
(or whoever) they are, they seem to have purpose but what is the purpose?
So Jim, if you could tell me the answers to the mysteries of life, I'd
appreciate it :-)
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From: paranet!p0.f37.n114.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Don.Schuster
Subject: Re: Knapp/lazar
Date: 4 May 90 16:42:00 GMT
Hi Mike.
Glad to see you back on line again and hope all is well with you
and yours.
Back on 03/08/90, I sent you a T-120 and a check to cover handling
for a copy of the original 9 segments of the Lazar interview on
KLAS. This is about the same time you were in process of moving
to Las Vegas and I'm wondering if you ever received this package
or if it got lost in the cross-country shuffle. (The check has
not yet been returned to my bank). If you haven't gotten it yet,
please let me know and I'll have my bank put a stop-payment on it.
I would still like to see this material and would also like to
impose upon you for a copy of the latest material when it becomes
available, just let me know what I should do from this end.
Best regards and many thanks,
Don S.
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From: paranet!f414.n154.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Ea.Richards
Subject: HOLIDAY INN - COLLINS AVE
Date: 3 May 90 15:27:12 GMT
Jim, I made not get to the conference, but I noticed you would be at the
Holiday Inn on Collins in Miami Beach.
My family and I stayed there for a week a few years ago; it was great!
The only problem was that there was only one elevator to serve all the
floors of the hotel, and the waits were long at times.
My recommendation is, get a room on the second floor....
But, by this time they may have installed another elevator....
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From: paranet!f414.n154.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Ea.Richards
Subject: Re: KNAPP/LAZAR
Date: 3 May 90 15:41:25 GMT
Not to pick nits concerning Lazar's so-called arrest on charges dealing with
prostitution, isn't prostitution legal in Nevada?
Did he just forget to get a license?
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From: paranet!f414.n154.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Ea.Richards
Subject: MAGNETIC MAPS
Date: 3 May 90 15:47:27 GMT
Paul: If you wish to procure maps which show the relative intensity of
magnetic patterns, via their deviation, go to your local flying service and
check out air navigation maps which have isogonic lines on them which
indicates parallels in magnetic variation.
>From these you may be able to interpolate for your needs.
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From: paranet!f725.n209.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Art.Chevalier
Subject: Re: Sonic booms & UFO's
Date: 4 May 90 14:31:16 GMT
PF> In a message of <25 Apr 90 23:36:12 >, Robert Hood (1:362/701) writes:
>I believe aerodynamics play a part in the sonic boom phenomenon. A sonic
>boom is what one gets when the "sound barrier" is broken. The sound
>barrier is described in one place as air "piling up" at the nose of the
>vehicle that impedes said vehicle's progress, correct?
PF> Actually I don't know. Sound uses air as it's medium so what you're s
PF> makes sense.
>Theoretically, a well-designed vehicle
>could stop the initial piling up of air, thus not making a "sound
>barrier" in the first place.
PF> So you're saying that something with a good aerodynamic design would
PF> likely to create a boom? You could be right. A stealth fighter that m
PF> sonic boom wouldn't be too stealthy would it?
PF> * Origin: -=<ParaNet(sm) Omicron>=- (717)-588-7549 14.4K HST
PF> (1:268/102.0)
Since a stealth fighter does not travel at supersonic speed thus cannot
break the sound barrier, what is your point?
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From: paranet!f37.n114.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Jim.Speiser
Subject: Billy Meir
Date: 5 May 90 06:23:00 GMT
> Maybe I missed something, but from what I've heard, they've pretty much
> dismissed the Meir case as a hoax, and the only evidence I've heard
> against him is that they found some carved models of the saucers at his
> home. Is that it? I've seen a vidio of some of his 8mm footage and a
> most of it looked pretty convincing to me.
Look again, Tim. Do you remember that footage where the UFO circles a tree?
First of all, a site inspection revealed that tree isn't even there (no stump,
no hole, nada). That indicates some kind of double exposure. Second, remember
the sequence where the UFO winks out at one point, and "jumps" across the
frame to another location? Do you remember how the ambient lighting in the
frame became just a touch darker when the UFO reappeared? Doesn't that
indicate to you that the sun went behind a cloud WHILE THE CAMERA WAS TURNED
OFF? There's a whole slew of other evidence as well. But really, how much
evidence do you need? A bunch of "carved" (they were actually crafted in
detail) models is enough for me.
Jim
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From: paranet!f37.n114.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Jim.Speiser
Subject: Re: Sonic Booms & UFOs
Date: 5 May 90 06:25:00 GMT
> Well, possibly convienience? If we lived in a society that was more
> technically advanced than ours, and we had many veichles that were used
> by most of the population that were supersonic, wouldn't it make sense
> that we would want technology that would keep us from having a sonic
> boom every 2 minutes?
Oh, sure, IF it was convenient and not too expensive. I just wouldn't go to
all the trouble discussed before. But then, if they were advanced enough,
maybe it wouldn't be so much trouble. OK, point taken.
Jim
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From: paranet!f37.n114.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Jim.Speiser
Subject: UFOs Abound
Date: 5 May 90 06:28:00 GMT
> Is this simply the result of May's Sweeps Ratings or is there a more
> serious explanation as to why all of a sudden the media is giving this
> subject serious attention?
Believe me, I'd love to think otherwise, but from my experience with
mainstream journalists, this is all a product of sweeps month. I don't think
George Knapp is to blame, I'm sure he'd love to do these stories as often as
possible, but I'm also sure he knows he could NEVER run a serious feature on
UFOs at any time other than February, May and November.
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From: paranet!f37.n114.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Jim.Speiser
Subject: Magnetic grid?
Date: 5 May 90 06:33:00 GMT
> So Jim, if you could tell me the answers to the mysteries of life, I'd
> appreciate it :-)
"The answer is peanut butter."
-- Larry King
Actually, there are several suggested patterns of apparent UFO interest. The
more obvious ones, like nuclear facilities and power lines, are well-known and
discussed often. But one interesting "UFO Attractor" is, of all
things, limestone quarries. I'm aware of at least three separate sightings at
limestone quarries. Matter of fact, I think Bryon Smith put me onto one.
Whaddya make of that?
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From: paranet!f414.n154.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Ea.Richards
Subject: Re: UFO'S AND THE CIA
Date: 5 May 90 01:58:33 GMT
You mentioned something about the Senate select committee on intelligence
while you discussed Woodward's book on the CIA...
First of all, very little intelligence is found on the democrat portion of
the committee, which makes the phrase a contradiction in terms.
Secondly, anyone who believes much of what Woodward writes is only fooling
himself with Woodward's help.
I'd believe Nostradamus before I'd believe Woodward, and I'm not very good
in Latin or French.
Come to think of it, I'd believe the supermarket sheets before Woodward.
At least the UFO stories are interesting; Woodward is a liberal hack.
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From: paranet!f414.n154.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Don.Allen
Subject: Re: UFO'S AND THE CIA
Date: 5 May 90 06:47:28 GMT
EAR>Secondly, anyone who believes much of what Woodward writes is only
EAR>fooling himself with Woodward's help.
Well,I can certainly tell that you spend alot of time reading
..Hate to disappoint you,but you're WRONG on all but the very first
sentence of your response. Do some homework,then come back and debate
with me. Give specifics.
Better yet, goto your local library and check out the book for yourself
and read it. If you haven't read it, then how can you make such a
critique?
BTW, "All the President's Men" was quite an expose' on Watergate.
Also,if you HAD read the book I mentioned in my post then you
would have *known* that Woodward had several personal interviews
with Bill Casey, but I guess you "automagically" knew that didn't
you?
The post is directed towards someone who has HAD former intelligence
background and who could answer the questions I posed.
I was hoping that someone like Robert Klinn or Bill English would
respond,,but gee...I keep forgetting this is the FIDO echo :_)
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From: paranet!f26.n123.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Paul.Carr
Subject: Re: Magnetic grid?
Date: 5 May 90 22:10:00 GMT
I am no expert on geomagnetics, but I do know that the field has been
extensively mapped. On every topographic map put out by the Defense
mapping agency, there is information telling you the difference between
magnetic North and true North. Civilian topo maps have the same
information. Ttry contacting the U.S. geological survey, who are
normally eager to provide information at a nominal cost.
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From: paranet!f725.n209.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Jeff.Marsh
Subject: Re: KNAPP/LAZAR
Date: 5 May 90 18:56:50 GMT
ER> Not to pick nits concerning Lazar's so-called arrest on charges dealin
ER> prostitution, isn't prostitution legal in Nevada?
ER> Did he just forget to get a license?
As far a prostitution goes... It is legal, but NOT in Clark County,
where Lazar would/should have been. Also, it must be a licensed and
legitimate business <grin>... only it's semi-controlled by MOB figures,
and NO one gets in for long without a fight!
Jeff
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From: paranet!f725.n209.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Tim.Hamewka
Subject: Re: Magnetic grid?
Date: 5 May 90 19:41:42 GMT
I, myself, have wondered about whether or not UFO sightings occur
more around certain areas than others. Another thing I've noticed,
while doing some research back to 1947, is that most UFO sightings seem
to occur during the summer months rather than during the winter. As
soon as I get through with my research, I see if there seems to be a
pattern. Also, I don't know a lot about physics, but I was wondering.
Does the air temperature affect magnetic lines of force? If anyone out
there knows, let me know.
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From: paranet!p0.f102.n268.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Paul.Faeder
Subject: MAGNETIC MAPS
Date: 6 May 90 05:47:03 GMT
In a message of <03 May 90 08:47:27>, Ea Richards (1:154/414) writes:
>and check out air navigation maps which have isogonic lines on them which
>indicates parallels in magnetic variation.
Aren't these lines only depicting the deviation in degrees between true north
and magnetic north?
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From: paranet!p0.f102.n268.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Paul.Faeder
Subject: Bill Cooper's Downfall
Date: 6 May 90 06:01:20 GMT
I'm glad to see Cooper get what he deserves but am a bit upset with Lear's
admission that he and "another person" dreamed up the Krill material. Wasn't
Lear and/or Moore involved with the UFO Coverup Live TV show? How much material
on there was "dreamed up" ? and why did Lear admit to this? There seems to be a
movement to "come clean"; first Moore and now Lear and who's this other person
that helped with the Krill papers? Why are people fessin' up to things which
may never have been discovered if only they kept their mouth's shut?
Thanks for the report Mike, wish I could get this TV show out here.
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