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Info-ParaNet Newsletters Volume 1 Number 200
Info-ParaNet Newsletters, Number 200
Monday, April 9th 1990
Today's Topics:
Cooper warning message
Spies, Lies & ET's
Re: Windshield Guy
New Affiliates
Re: Spies, Lies & ET's
Conviction of Adm Poindexter
Re: Windshield Guy
Re: Spies, Lies & ET's
Re: 3 Star Interview
Part II 3 *
Re: Japan Video Update
Re: Windshield Guy
Re: Moore Of The Same!
Tesla/EM
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From: xroads!gmz (Gerry Zeitlin)
Subject: Cooper warning message
Date: 8 Apr 90 11:16:16 GMT
Recently someone reported receiving an unpleasant log-in greeting
upon connecting to Bill Cooper's BBS.
I just wanted to mention that Cooper shouldn't really be blamed
for this; it's something we're going to be seeing more and more
of. About a year ago, there was a trial of a malicious computer
hacker, in which the defendant successfully argued that the
system he broke into had a "Welcome" message on it, so of course
he thought he was welcome to do whatever he wanted.
It was a miscarriage of justice, to my thinking. At any rate,
corporate attorneys everywhere began to call for warning messages
to be placed on all computer systems with dial-in capabilities.
And so it is coming to pass.
Cooper knows that his public statements raise public passions, and
he probably feels that his system might be a target for hackers.
So he's protecting himself against the courtroom tactic the was
successfully used last year. (I've forgotten the details of that
case; sorry.)
I really wouldn't let it bother you; if it creates a contradiction,
well, we live in difficult times.
And anyway, even ParaNet has its network security manager.
=gerry zeitlin=
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From: paranet!p0.f102.n268.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Paul.Faeder
Subject: Spies, Lies & ET's
Date: 7 Apr 90 18:43:42 GMT
In a message of <05 Apr 90 01:05>, Don Ecker (1:30163/22) writes:
>The other problem is, how many red herrings have been planted to
>throw us off the track? If Moore was right in what he said about the G.
>guys jamming up the circuts, then they must really get a kick out of how
>many people are charging full ahead around in a circle.
In the intelligence business the only friends are those within the intelligence
circle, all others are enemies. Confusion is a weapon that will keep the enemy
from banding together.
I see 2 possibilities. One is that the aliens do present a threat whether it is
in the form of national security or ego (ie shattering of religious,
philosophical beliefs). The other possibility is that no real information as to
their intentions has been discovered but by appearing to have a
coverup/disinformation campaign, they give the impression that they do know w
at's going on. Think of this latter statement in international terms. Other
nations may be interested in knowing if there is a USA - Alien relationship.
Think of the possibilities of having a highly technologically advanced race of
beings on our side and how it would be viewed by other nations. Now put
yourself in the position of an intelligence supervisor and think how you would
use this to your advantage.
I'm not saying that any of this is true. Just that to start to understand
something, you have to think like them.
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From: paranet!Bill.English
Subject: Re: Windshield Guy
Date: 7 Apr 90 14:09:00 GMT
Ray, is there any possibly that he has suffered from a break down?
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From: paranet!mcorbin
Subject: New Affiliates
Date: 8 Apr 90 05:13:00 GMT
To all:
This is to introduce two new affiliates to the ParaNet family.
They are:
John Finney
ParaNet TAU-GAMMA(sm)
Chattanooga, Tennessee
Pete Porro
ParaNet XI-ALPHA(sm)
Milwaukee, Wisconsin
On behalf of the group, WELCOME! Please take a moment and introduce
yourselves to everyone.
Michael Corbin
Administrator
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From: paranet!p0.f102.n268.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Paul.Faeder
Subject: Re: Spies, Lies & ET's
Date: 8 Apr 90 05:54:41 GMT
In a message of <06 Apr 90 11:17>, Jim Delton (1:114/37) writes:
>It's not strictly true that the US spy agencies operate outside the law.
>There are some defined operational areas that they are supposed to
>operate within, such as the NSA not being allowed to spy on Americans
>within the US.
True but how do we really know what goes on? In this Edward Lee Howard case the
CIA suspected Howard of espionage so they started to watch him. This should
have been the job of the FBI but the CIA wanted to avoid embarassment and felt
they could take care of their own family business. So they operated illegally
in the USA and lost Howard to the USSR anyway.
It's all a big game with very high stakes. It runs from international politics
to UFO's. And all this time we're kept in the dark because they think it's best
for us; that we wouldn't want to know. And I think, the truth is that most
people *wouldn't* want to know.
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From: paranet!p0.f37.n114.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Don.Allen
Subject: Conviction of Adm Poindexter
Date: 8 Apr 90 04:38:00 GMT
WOW!
Just when I think there's no surprises in Govt left,I hear
tonight via CNN that Admiral Pondexter was CONVICTED on several
counts by the jury. His sentencing is set for June.
This brings some interesting questions to mind...like was he
previously set up as the "fall guy"? And according to some other
stuff I've read..it was alleged that he was a member of MJ-12..if
that is TRUE..he just got busted..what does this mean now?
Comments?
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From: paranet!p0.f37.n114.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Ray.Griffin
Subject: Re: Windshield Guy
Date: 8 Apr 90 08:49:00 GMT
He has as you might say a mental injury. He has not been seen
publically in this area for several months, but releases news items
through his lawyer. His current feelings are that something is working
on him that is connected with the supposed CIA's backing. He calls me
from time to time, and hangs-up before speaking. Yes, I guess you could
say he has had a break-down, but he was already quite bent.
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From: paranet!f725.n209.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Karen.Henderson
Subject: Re: Spies, Lies & ET's
Date: 8 Apr 90 13:54:58 GMT
They don't want to know the truth because it will complicate their
lives even further. Haven't we got enough to worry about?
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From: paranet!f725.n209.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Jeff.Marsh
Subject: Re: 3 Star Interview
Date: 8 Apr 90 19:32:12 GMT
Don,
Doesn't the information sound an awful lot like the information
that is presented to us in the many LEARx.UFO documentations. Either
this has a similar author or it validates MUCH of what John Lear has
to say.
Either way it is a bit "fantastic" to say the least. I would be
curios, to say the least, to see what the general audience of this
echo thinks about this article. Believe it or not?
Jeff Marsh
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From: paranet!f22.n30163.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Don.Ecker
Subject: Part II 3 *
Date: 8 Apr 90 04:43:00 GMT
This is the second and final installment of the purported
interview with a retired 3 Star General, being interviewed by
what was described to me as a still active duty Full Colonel
interested in the subject of UFOs. Now prior to continuing with
this, allow me to make an observation.
Since I uploaded part one of this file, and with the upload of
the previous file -- CARP.UFO-- I have received several E-Mail
notes asking me why I have put out such outlandish and paranoid
files. I will answer like this. First, I do not believe that
any of us here have a really good and solid idea of just what is
happening in the bizarre world of UFOs. Since I have started to
explore this thing several years ago, believe me when I tell you
that I have experienced most of the angles of this subject.
Everything from the Space-Brothers are here to save us from
ourselves, tales of ET love affairs with the likes of the
ledgendary Semjase ( now that is one ET I would LOVE to meet! )
to tales of "Their here eating us!!" to the Leader of the free
world selling drugs to support MJ-12!!!! What this all boils
down to is a hell of alot of rhetoric and damn little proof. Oh,
there is some proof to be sure, ie mutilated cows, ( you ain't
lived till you have been up to your elbows in one ) scars on
alledged abductee's ( one gentleman told me that he turned gay
after his 16th birthday because of repeated abductions. he was
tired of being forced to copulate with alien females ) landing
traces ( hard baked soil compacted inches, something damn heavy
had set down on it ) and tales from dozens of people, living in
some cases a whole continent apart ( with the same information in
uncanny detail ). OK, what does this mean? In my opinion, it
means that SOMETHING damn strange IS INDEED ONGOING..... so, that
means that the only way to find out is investigate and
investigate some more. Knowledge is power, so the reason I have
uploaded this files is that MAYBE someone out there in computer
land, ( and you would be really suprised where all ParaNet DOES
GO ) will have a missing piece of the puzzle, and better yet will
contact one of we happy little band of investigators -- with
PROOF .................... and by the way, to those good meaning
folks that have written me email, just because I put something up
here, it does not mean that I think this is what really is
happening. Always read what I have to say about the file in
advance. In this case, I stated that there is HIGH STRANGENESS
in this one, BUT NO PROOF THAT IT IS LEGITIMATE.
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Part II of the 3 * interview.
JULY 14, 1989
Bill> Thank you for agreeing to a second interview on this
topic. Did you enjoy your trip to the mountains?
3* > Yes my wife and I had a wonderful time.
Bill> What is bothering you so much about the alien situation?
3* > As I mentioned before, there have been several UFO crashes,
not just the one in Roswell, New Mexico. Look at the documents I
brought with me. The photos are quite explicit to the CARGO OF
SOME OF THE UFOs.
Bill> Why are there children aboard these crafts!? My God! You
don't mean that the aliens are snaching our kids? What for??
3* > There are over a million missing children every year in the
US alone. Now, not all of them have been taken by aliens. The
aliens take about 2,200 children a year from the US and other
countries. Its all right there in the report attached to the
three photos. The rest of the missing children are the result of
mankind's dark side. You know what I mean. It's in the paper
every day.
The children are used in several ways; biological, to educate and
return, experimentation, disease study. The same as adults.
Bill> Adults are one matter, but leave the children alone. I am
very bothered by this information. According to the report,
implants are being used on the people that are taken aboard UFOs
and returned. Some of these implants are microscopic in size (and
smaller) and influence the growth, function and learning
capabilities of the individual. This is a very detailed report.
Could I have a copy?
3* > No, Sorry but you know our agreement was that you did not
get to keep or copy any paperwork. As well as the other matters
we discussed.
Bill> That you did! I will keep my word, don't worry.
3* > I would like to mention a little bit more of why the public
have not been told the truth. Lets run through the whole thing
rather quickly.
1. Security/Fear Factor; Everyone feels safe knowing that the US
is one of the dominate powers on Earth. Right? The Human race is
in control and science will solve it all. The simple fact is--if
you take away the security of people it is replaced with fear!
Fear is the first step to chaos. Just imagine what would happen
if there was an announcement that the govts. are no longer in
control, we have aliens living among us, they have kidnapped our
people, used them as guinea pigs, killed them, manipulated our
culture, tampered with our food, created new diseases to study on
us, have interbred with us and there isn't a damn thing we can do
about it. Now, how do you think the public would react?
2. The fact that the Govt. have been lying, covering up the
truth, have given permission for abductions and experiments on
the public. Keep in mind that the agencies involved are highly
covert, funded very well and have almost absolute power (life and
death) over anyone who interferes. How do you think the public
will react?
3. Cures for certain diseases, free electrical power, pollution
free energy, no longer a need for fossil fuels, abundant food and
water for everyone. All of this has been possible for many years
now. What would happen if this technology was turned loose to the
public? The tech report showed that within the first year over 18
million people out of work. The monetary system would collapse
and all of the other problems that go along with it. A REAL
POSSIBILITY OF A GLOBAL NUCLEAR CONFLICT........ALL OUT OF FEAR!!
Is it really worth the chance?
Bill> What you say does make sense when you think about it.
What is going on with the sudden surge in UFOs, aliens,
abductions and the like? Is this part of the awareness program?
3* > Yes it is. The awareness program calls for the funding of
movies, series on TV, specials and books. All of the "front"
money will filter its way to fund a TV series or movie if it is
deemed worthy of friendly, helpful alien contact. An idea is
passed along to the big named producers and directors and if it
takes hold, everything will fall in place and the funding starts.
It is really unique how it all works. Now way to trace it to the
govt. and the people involved truely believe it is their own
creative work. Everyone gets into the act and no problems. After
the movie hits the public, the reaction and interest of the
masses are carefully monitored.
Abductions of humans are both random and selective. Influential
people are selected to either -- explain and guide the public or
to serve some political need or requirement.
UFO sightings increase when needed to draw the attention of the
public. You must keep in mind that the mere mention of UFOs,
aliens and the like will draw weird looks, rumors and make people
believe that you have a mental problem, not playing with a full
deck of cards and so forth. People will make fun of you and will
laugh at you! THIS IS THE MOST IMPORTANT ASPECT. AND WHO WANTS TO
BE LAUGHED AT WHEN THEY ARE SERIOUS? The result is not one will
say anything unless there are many witnesses. The unique thing
about this subject is people don't want to believe. The general
feeling is that mankind is all. There is nothing else but God and
Country. This is what most people believe. I am not disputing or
disagreeing with anything. I just find it amazing that people in
general are so damn stupid and stubborn. Let alone that many are
so pompous and self-rightous about their religion and self image.
Do these people have a rude awaking someday! It can surely be
said that we are not alone in this universe.
Bill> How large are UFOs? What type of propulsion system do the
crafts use? do you have any photographs I could look at?
3* > The alien crafts are disc, triangle, oblong cigar shaped.
The range from 30 ft in dia. for the smaller recon discs to over
730 ft in dia. for the larger "mother" discs or the flying
saucer, if you will.
The triangle shaped crafts are 210 ft. in dia. This does not seem
to change as you can see in the photos which show 3 different
triangle crafts which all measure the same and are identical in
shape and appearance.
The oblong cigar shaped craft is the real big one of the three.
The only one ever found by the military in the late 60's measured
1,100 ft. long with a circumference of 310 ft. Take a look at
this photo and read the report attached. The information gathered
from this one enabled us to copy the basics of alien technology.
It took 20 yrs to do so.
The basic propulsion system or drive is a fusion reactor which
ranges in size from about the size of a medicine ball, you know
the one tossed around in gym class, to about the size of a large
Van or station wagon. It is a magnetic drive surrounded by an
aura of bright white light. This is for the disc and triangle
shaped crafts. The oblong cigar shaped craft does not have this
aura of light. All crafts are almost totally silent. There is
some noise.
Bill> I can't believe the photos! This looks like something
right out of the movies. The other report information which is
stapled to the photos is very detailed. This information is both
fantastic and very scary! I wish I could share this proof that I
am now holding in my hands. I know, I won't ask again. You have
to get this evidence back where it belongs before it is noticed
missing, don't you?
3* > Yes I do. If this documentation ever got out I am sure
several individuals would be terminated. The powers to be have a
systematic method and program that deals with documentation,
verification and termination of information and personnel.
The most important asset to the Govt. on the subject of aliens,
UFOs, cover-up story and the like is simply the "OVERALL
PROJECTION OF PEOPLE THAT HAVE UFO EXPERIENCES IS ONE OF FANTASY,
DELUSIONS, MIS-CONCEPTIONS, UNRELIABLE KOOKS AND CRACK-POTS AND
DOWN RIGHT LIARS." Also keep in mind that the news reporters and
the news media in general, poke fun at individuals with their
quirk smile and light attitude about the whole thing. Matters
can be documented. The proof is out there and is available. Many
people must come down off their high horse and open their eyes.
it is no shame to admit that you are wrong. No one knows
everything and no one should be expected to.
Bill> It seems to me that you have talked to several people
about this subject and the outcome has been negative? At least as
you describe the general attitude earlier. Maybe we ought to wrap
this issue up?
3* > I really hate to be sour about this subject but the people
of this planet have a God given right to the truth. Many people
will not believe what has been stated herein. Many questions are
raised and can not be answered. Certainly not to the
satisfaction of many. Until the day comes when the big
announcement and/or experience happens to you --the
individual--you will be too busy and skeptical. Just like I was!
Bill> Thank you for everything you have done for me. As I agreed
to do earlier, I will edit out the graphic details and other
information you requested to cover you identity and prevent the
people who helped you obtain the documentation from being
suspected.
3* > I am well aware that there are no guarantees when this
informatioon hits the media. I just hope that the people involved
with this whole UFO, alien, and Govt. connection will come
forward and let the world know. I feel that mankind will become
mature enough to think before acting in the coming decade of the
1990's.
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END OF TRANSCRIPTION FROM MASTER TAPE--EDITED AS
PER AGREEMENT--- ( from the hard copy---- D. E. )
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From: paranet!Don.Sudduth
Subject: Re: Japan Video Update
Date: 8 Apr 90 12:46:00 GMT
How can one get a copy of the Japan video??
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From: paranet!Bill.English
Subject: Re: Windshield Guy
Date: 8 Apr 90 13:53:00 GMT
Do you happen to recall his lawyers name. There are several things
that need toe discussed regards his relation ship with UFINET.And
frankly I am a little curious as to what brought all of this on...
Bill
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From: paranet!p0.f740.n115.z1.FIDONET.ORG!John.Burke
Subject: Re: Moore Of The Same!
Date: 9 Apr 90 02:11:58 GMT
Don:
That has been my impression on the Moore story. While he was off
chasing the MJ-12 wild goose, a number of important Roswell witnesses
died off (from natural causes of course, since that happened 43 years
ago). As a result some important clues in the Roswell mystery may have
been lost forever. It's too bad that when Moore was investigating
Roswell, the only other ufologist who took crash/retrieval cases
seriously was Len Stringfield. This meant that all the gov't. had to
do was tie Moore up with a protracted Easter Egg hunt for a few years,
and then let the laws of nature take care of all the Roswell witnesses
who were never questioned by Moore. Nevertheless, it looks like CUFOS
started taking this case seriously just in the nick of time, since
there are still a number of good witnesses kicking around. It looks
like we'll have to wait 'till December for the book by Randle &
Schmitt, with the CUFOS monograph coming along after that. Nice typing
at you! Regards -- John
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From: chalmers@violet.berkeley.edu (John H. Chalmers Jr.)
Subject: Tesla/EM
Date: 9 Apr 90 18:53:45 GMT
Clark: I think I read about the meteor noise in an
old book of Martin Gardner's. I don't know how good
the observations are. One might also look in Corliss's
Source Books of anomalies as he rates them carefully.
As for Tesla, I'm afraid I'm only familiar with his more
mundane accomplishments such as AC power nets and the
ubiquitous Tesla coils. It is true that the propagation
of acoustic waves in elastic media (air, water, solids, etc)
depends upon the EM force between the molecules and atoms
of the medium. However EM radiation can propagate in the
vacuum and sound cannot, so there are significant differences.
I'm not really up on the literature concerning the interactions
of microwaves and humans. the russians think they cause chromosome
damage and illness; US workers think the effects are mild except
at high power levels and purely thermal so our acceptable dose
limits are higher than theirs. Still, that didn't stop them
from bombarding our embassy in Moscow with microwaves to recharge
their surveillance mechanisms built into the building. We should
have brought in a Xmitter via diplomatic pouch and zapped them
back rather than screening the building and yapping about it.
My recollection is that studies in the 1960's indicated
that brief bursts of fairly high power caused a "frying" noise
to be heard by volunteers, but I don't know any details. One
might try the transactions of the IEEE, or the CRC critical
reviews series as a start. The idea that the effect is
caused by transient heating is not farfetched as the human ear
is very sensitive, only selective attention and environmental noise
usually prevent us from using this sensitivity.
A number of sensor instruments have been constructed
which work by recording the sound made when EM radiation is absorbed.
If the vibrations are quantized, they are called "phonons."
-- John
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