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Info-ParaNet Newsletters Volume 1 Number 151
Info-ParaNet Newsletters, Number 151
Tuesday, February 13th 1990
Today's Topics:
Re: Richard Murray and Amnesty
Re: Mercury Drives
New Affiliates
Face
Re: 1940's Crash In La.
Re: 1940's crash in LA.
Vice President emphasizes White House space commitment (Forwarded)
Re:ignorance!!
Re: Richard Murray & Congressional Amnesty
Skeptics
KNOWLEDGE OF ALIENS
CIRCLES
Re: Skeptomania is cool
Strange Rings in Britain
Re: Philadelphia Experiment
Cows
Re: Mars Face
Re: Skeptomania is cool
Greenhouse Effect
Re: Mars Face
The Mundrabilla-Nullarbor Document
CIRCLES - News from UFORA
OZTRAIN
Re: Richard Murray and Amnesty
Re: The Co. & Drugs
Update-Human Mutes
Re: Greenhouse Effect
Interesting names
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From: gross@dg-rtp.dg.com (Gene Gross)
Subject: Re: Richard Murray and Amnesty
Date: 12 Feb 90 21:10:59 GMT
->From: sparta!sun!root (esanborn)
->Subject: Richard Murray and Amnesty
Ed:
I'm going to check my files. Somewhere I have Bush's bio sketch and I
want to check a few things before I say a whole lot. But one thing that
needs to be said here is that there are a number of splinter groups that
the CIA has spun off. These groups do work for the Company, the Firm,
and sometimes the Institute that are not easily done under the normal
channels. Col. Gritz and others have been investigating a number of
connections between CIA and drugs. There has been a long standing rumor
that the "CIA" used (uses) drug money to finance operations that
otherwise would not be supported by funds from Congress. I have every
reason to believe that rumor, but I don't think we are talking about the
CIA but rather splinter groups.
As to the use of an "anti-gravity disc" in the attempt to rescue the
hostages, I can only say that the fellows that went in evidently didn't
know anything about it. I'd like to see more documentation on this.
Personally, I take anything said by the NSA with a large grain of
salt--as I do with anything that the Company says. This doesn't mean
that Murray wasn't told the truth. He may have a contact who is willing
to take the risks. But I've learned to be very careful about what the
spook community says.
This is the second time I've seen a reference to the book "October
Surprise." Is it a fairly recent book? I think I'd better get a copy
to check out what the author is saying.
Thanks for Murray's address.
Gene
gross@dg-rtp.dg.com
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From: gross@dg-rtp.dg.com (Gene Gross)
Subject: Re: Mercury Drives
Date: 12 Feb 90 22:40:56 GMT
->From: gmz@well.sf.ca.us (Gerry Zeitlin)
->Subject: Mercury drives
Gerry: Thanks for the information and the address. What is the book
"The Matrix" that you mentioned about?
Gene
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From: paranet!f428.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Michael.Corbin
Subject: New Affiliates
Date: 13 Feb 90 00:05:00 GMT
This is to welcome two new affiliates to the ParaNet family.
ParaNet TAU-EPSILON
Edward Melville
Memphis, Tennessee
901-785-4943
ParaNet NU-DELTA
John Hicks
Orlando, Florida
407-649-4135
On behalf of ParaNet, WELCOME!!
Please take a moment to introduce yourselves.
Michael Corbin
Administrator
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From: paranet!p0.f422.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Paul.Carr
Subject: Face
Date: 13 Feb 90 02:19:00 GMT
Forgive my ignorance, but why is a linear translation the most honest
one? Wouldn't something like histogram equalization reveal the actual
level of detail most accurately?
/exit
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From: paranet!p0.f422.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Clark.Matthews
Subject: Re: 1940's Crash In La.
Date: 13 Feb 90 04:55:00 GMT
Hi Winston. If you pick up a copy of "Clear Intent", you'll see --
along with Hoover's actual memos and longhand postscript on the
"crashed disk" -- that the actual incident that caused the memo was a
hoax. Apparently the object was a pie pan and Hoover's concern was
that it was planted by Commie agents provocateur to cause panic.
At least, that's what I recall of the incident. The book is well worth
a look!
Best,
Clark
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From: paranet!f37.n114.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Jim.Speiser
Subject: Re: 1940's crash in LA.
Date: 12 Feb 90 16:12:00 GMT
-> It is not at all clear that the "it" was a real disk or a Hoax
-> disk being referred to in the Hoover Memo.
-> somewhat ambiguous memo.
Sure is. Either way, I *WOULD* like to know what he was talking about.
Jim
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From: paranet!f428.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Michael.Corbin
Subject: Vice President emphasizes White House space commitment (Forwarded)
Date: 13 Feb 90 07:55:00 GMT
Below is an article excerpted from NASA Headline News of February
12, regarding the budget funding increase request. Something
that ties in here I saw in the latest issue of Omni Magazine
regarding the SETI program also getting record amounts of
appropriation for the same time period to extend to 1993. The
search for extraterrestrial intelligence is a costly proposition.
A lot of money to spend for such a folly -- wouldn't you agree?
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VICE PRESIDENT EMPHASIZES WHITE HOUSE SPACE COMMITMENT
On January 26, the Administration announced it was seeking a
23 percent funding increase for NASA in FY 1991, the largest
increase for any major agency. The President's budget message
said that, "The exploration of space has benefits for the United
States that go far beyond the quantifiable. There are specific
payoffs in the form of new materials, technological discoveries
and microgravity research. But no price can be put on the
lifting of the spirit of people everywhere ... And no
quantitative measure of any kind can capture the benefit of
expanding human horizons, human dreams and the human domain."
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Also note the microgravity research. Wonder where this research
is being carried out? Could it be Area 51 or S-4?
Just a thought.
Mike
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From: paranet!f207.n914.z8.FIDONET.ORG!Rick.Moen
Subject: Re:ignorance!!
Date: 10 Feb 90 05:51:40 GMT
-> No need to wag your grin at me, Rick - I think you know what I'm
-> saying.
->
-> By the way, I established contact with the skeptics on that board, and
-> I was right, they were ignorant of the issues. I think the difference
-> between yourself and these guys illustrates the difference between
-> informed and uninformed skepticism. You seem to be pretty "up" on
-> things, and you also seem disinclined to the intellectual snobbery I
-> see rampant in many skeptics, whereas these guys were full of little
-> side comments such as "No evidence <yawn>", etc. Needless to say, I
-> shook them up a little. I also gave them the number for our Atlanta
-> board, Tau Gamma (which I hope is still active??) so they may be
-> logging in here soon enough. Perhaps you can set them straight on the
-> proper application of skepticism.
Yes, I certainly do know what you mean. Much as I hate to dive into the
game of trying to define "genuine skepticism", I do recognise that the
traits you describe do characterise some people who call themselves
skeptics. More's the pity. As to my (our?) being pretty up on things,
well, I/we try, and also attempt to leave large amounts of room for our
own ignorance. No one can be an expert on all fringe-science fields --
if you're smart, you compile a list of people to call, instead. [Who ya
gonna call?... Skeptics!]
Ray Hyman (psychologiy prof. at U. of Oregon, CSICOP founder & Fellow)
wrote an excellent article called (I believe) "Proper Criticism", which
is available from CSICOP and gives a good grounding in the indicated
subject -- recommended.
I certainly hope Paranet Tau Gamma <sm> is alive and well, and providing
an access point for those folks, who should have much to contribute.
Rick Moen
Secretary, Bay Area Skeptics
Sysop, The Skeptic's Board
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From: paranet!.123/21@f21.n123.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Edward.Melville.@.123/21
Subject: Re: Richard Murray & Congressional Amnesty
Date: 12 Feb 90 21:38:12 GMT
-> The CIA was created 17 Sept 1947 by Harry Truman (the same
-> date as the phony "Truman MJ-12 letter"). One of the MJ-12
-> people, as I recall, was its first head, but I can't
-> remember which.
->
-> I think the writer meant "1984".
Bush was head of CIA in the middle 70s.
Ed
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From: paranet!f2.n1030.z9.FIDONET.ORG!John.Daly
Subject: Skeptics
Date: 7 Feb 90 03:54:00 GMT
ii > Let's see. This message comes from a person calling
ii > himself John Daly
ii > and claims to come from Tasmania. Well, how do we know
ii > this. Maybe
ii > this person isn't really named John Daly. Maybe this
ii > person doesn't
ii > even exist. That's it, he's a figment of imagination. The
ii > byproduct of
ii > marsh gas. ;-) 8-) 8-)
ii >
ii > As for the Greenhouse effect, I probably tend to share your
ii > view.
I can assure all my fans that my name really is John Daly, and
that I am living in Tasmania (where my local BBS is). If you don't
know where Tasmania is - shame on you!
Is there a Tasmanian Devil? Is it just a figment of Bugs Bunny
cartoons? Is there a Loch Ness Monster? What, if anything, does a
Scotsman wear under his kilt?
Here is a puzzle for our American Paranet users only -
Is there a Tasmanian Devil?
First correct answer from an American user gets an all-expenses paid
trip to Alpha Centauri (wherever that is).
Regards
John Daly Tasmania (Land of the Tasmanian Devil)
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From: paranet!f7.n1030.z9.FIDONET.ORG!Vladimir.Godic.
Subject: KNOWLEDGE OF ALIENS
Date: 12 Feb 90 06:05:00 GMT
-> About the rings in England, are the rings of debate in
-> the messages on this system the ones that were featured on
-> "Unsolved Mysteries" last Wednesday (Jan 31)? I didn't see the
-> show, but a friend whe did say they were more like circles than
-> rings, and that they (again, according to the show) mysteriously
-> would appear over-
-> night. The show also made mention of a bood written about the
-> "phenomenon," and if anybody knows the title or author of the
-> book, I'd like to hear about it. ...Lou--- ZMailQ 1.10
The book is titled "Circular Evidence" by Pat Delgado & Colin
Andrews. Published in the U.K. and highly recommended.
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From: paranet!f7.n1030.z9.FIDONET.ORG!Vladimir.Godic.
Subject: CIRCLES
Date: 13 Feb 90 06:27:00 GMT
Jim,
I agree 100% with you in your reply to John Daily re circles in
England. We are talking about circles in wheatfield NOT circles made
from rocks etc. I have investigated many circles in the past. Some
of them were very easy to explain but, at the same time, I came
across circles for which there was no explanation.
Many years ago, we went to investigate a particular circle in a wheatfield,
here in South Australia. The farmer, who owned the land, was adamant
that no-one (to the best of his knowledge) could have gone into the
field and made that circle. This circle appeared, to make things even
worse, overnight according to the farmer. Anyway, to cut a long story
short, we contacted C.S.I.R.O. (Commonwealth Scientific & Industrial
Research Organisation) and send them ground samples. Back came the
answer: It was a kangaroo, sitting on its bottom and turning around
(I'll leave this to you, Jim, to figure out - why the kangaroo was
performing this particular ritual). How did they find out? Well, very
easy. They found minute particles of kangaroo droppings in the soil
samples we sent them! There are also another different types of circles
made by little bugs -they look like beetles - who start chewing
grass from the center of the circle and work their way outwards,
in other words they create a (perfect) circle. We've visited some of
these circles after a year, or so, and they were still there. It takes
quite a long time for the grass to recover back to its normal green
color. Another type of semi-circle is caused by some sort of fungus
(slime mould) and it usually appears when it rains after a hot spell.
I have seen many of these semi-circles in people's backyard and,
from the distance, they have appearance of diesel oil splashed
on the lawn. In reference to "Angels Hair", mentioned not long ago,
there is no doubt whatsoever that it is a spider web. The Adelaide
University and the Museum people were very helpful some years ago
when the local "Flying Saucer Club" got all excited after a number
of people reported seeing a white substance floating around and
on the ground. I went to check-out a golf course which was covered
with this substance. It looked like it was covered with snow.
I took many samples, including grass and leaves from schrubs etc,
and I also found a number of little spiders inside the web.
I was told (by the University people) that these little spiders
attach themselves to their web and fly for many miles. They were found
on the ships' masts anything up to hundred (or more) miles out on the sea.
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From: paranet!f2.n1030.z9.FIDONET.ORG!John.Daly
Subject: Re: Skeptomania is cool
Date: 10 Feb 90 17:26:00 GMT
JS> I'm becoming more and more interested in your challenge to
JS> the Global Warming crusaders. Your views would appear to
JS> have been supported in the 12/29/89 issue of Forbes (of
JS> course, this is to be expected of that bastion of
JS> Capitalism). And apparently George Bush is saying "not so
JS> fast" as well.
JS>
JS> Not sure where I stand on this one, just glad to know that
JS> your side is responsibly represented here on ParaNet.
JS>
I've never heard of Forbes. But then this is Tasmania. The
Massachussetts Institute of Technology is now the main focus of
opposition to the Greenhouse scare. They are not tainted by vested
interest pressures, and have a world-wide reputation for good solid
scientific work, not just in the U.S.
Also, a New Zealand research team in the Antarctic has just
reported that they can find no evidence of the `Ice-Albedo
Feedback'. This is a feedback mechanism incorporated in the computer
models of climate, whose effect is to boost up any initial
temperature increases, on the theoretical assumption that a slight
warming will push back the ice/snow line, and thus reduce the
reflection of sunlight, causing further warming. That assumption is
now observed to be false.
Furthermore, NASA has now determined by satellites, that
increasing cloudiness (a byproduct of any warming) does actually
have a significant cooling effect. This factor has been ignored in
the models up to now.
Regards
John Daly Tasmania.
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From: paranet!f2.n1030.z9.FIDONET.ORG!John.Daly
Subject: Strange Rings in Britain
Date: 10 Feb 90 17:32:00 GMT
JS> > Iron age man in Britain were great civil engineers - evidence
JS> > of their work litters the countryside of Britain, so there is no
JS> > mystery about the rings.
JS>
JS> John, the wheatfield circles seem connected with the stone
JS> circle monuments, i.e., all 750 are within a few miles of
JS> either Stonehenge or some other monument. The monuments
JS> themselves may present no mystery, but the wheatfield
JS> circles have no explanation as of yet. My personal feeling
JS> is that it is a hoax, but I will be the first to admit that
JS> I have no proof on which to base that opinion. In the decade
JS> or so since the circles began appearing, not one soul has
JS> been caught in the act. Despite my opinion, which is more of
JS> a prediction of how things will turn out, I must dispute you
JS> at this point and state that the wheatfield circles ARE a
JS> mystery.
JS>
Much of Britain is covered in recent sediments. Old structures
are being dug up all the time, some of them not so old either. In
the case of the rings, an underground structure would leave a
surface trace, caused by factors such as water drainage around the
structure, and the possibility that the materials around the
structure may be different (eg. clay) to that in the general
vicinity.
The easiest way to solve the `mystery' would be to dig one up
Regards
John Daly Tasmania
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From: paranet!f2.n1030.z9.FIDONET.ORG!John.Daly
Subject: Re: Philadelphia Experiment
Date: 10 Feb 90 17:38:00 GMT
BH> .. Submarines tend to stay submarged nowadays, and tend have
BH> nothing to do w
BH> Air Wave Transmissions while submerged.
Submarines CAN receive radio messages while submerged. The frequency
however has to very low, such as 15 kHz. Only then do the waves
penetrate the water. The worldwide OMEGA navigation system, owned by
the USA, uses very low frequency transmitters for navigational use
by world shipping. However, these transmitters are also capable of
broadcasting to submerged submarines.
Regards
John Daly Tasmania
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From: paranet!f2.n1030.z9.FIDONET.ORG!John.Daly
Subject: Cows
Date: 10 Feb 90 17:46:00 GMT
One thing puzzles me about all the cattle mutilation messages on
Paranet.
They all seem to happen in the USA only. I've never heard of them
happening in Europe or Australia.
Regards
Johnn
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From: paranet!f2.n1030.z9.FIDONET.ORG!John.Daly
Subject: Re: Mars Face
Date: 13 Feb 90 05:13:00 GMT
Hi Gene! or is your name Infor.par#co,.alpha.com^%$?
I don't understand these hierogliphics - it looks more like the
sort of code the Pentagon uses.
Re' the Mars Face - there is one simple answer to my query.
Please send me a copy of the untreated photo you refer to. You may
see a face; I might see a goddess! (Here's hoping!)
My address if you want to send me a copy is -
John Daly
30 Dyball Street
Hadspen 7290
Tasmania Phone (International) 61-03-93-6596
Regards John Daly Tasmania
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From: paranet!f2.n1030.z9.FIDONET.ORG!John.Daly
Subject: Re: Skeptomania is cool
Date: 13 Feb 90 05:15:00 GMT
* Replying to a message originally to Jim Delton
BS> In a message to John Daly <01-31-90 10:10> Jim Delton wrote:
BS>
BS> JD> >>Free speech cuts both ways.
BS> JD> Thanks for your well thought out post on that subject. I
BS> JD> have lost count of the number of times I have been beaten
BS>
BS> Heck, I don't know anymore, I get so far behind in trying to
BS> keep up with all these messages.
BS>
BS> It appears that you and John are arguing about virtually the
BS> same thing from different points.
BS>
BS> That's like saying you are both arguing for the very same
BS> thing, but against
BS> each other.
BS>
BS> Correct me if I have missed something here, believe me I
BS> think I have.
And you think you're confused!!!
Regards
John Daly Tasmania
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From: paranet!f2.n1030.z9.FIDONET.ORG!John.Daly
I don't like to say this, but you addressed your last message to
someone called INFOPARA@SCICOM.ALPHACDC.COM.
I thought Tasmanians abused the English language, but are you in
communication with an alien or something?
Regards
John Daly Tasmania
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From: paranet!f2.n1030.z9.FIDONET.ORG!John.Daly
Subject: Greenhouse Effect
Date: 13 Feb 90 05:15:00 GMT
ii> "GREENHOUSE REVISITED...A new computer simulation predicts
ii> Northern Hemisphere will endure significantly more heat than
ii> the
ii> Southern Hemisphere by the year 2030. The prediction seems
ii> to ease the
ii> most feared consequence of the greenhouse effect: that the
ii> ice sheets of
ii> Antartica would melt and contribute to rising sea levels.
ii> According to
ii> a recent article in NATURE magazine, the computer model is a
ii> new and
ii> improved version of previous models because it takes into
ii> account the
ii> ability of oceans to influence climate. Although the
ii> simulation is more
ii> detailed, scientists warn there are still many unknowns
ii> accompanying
ii> these forecasts."
ii>
ii> And in our for what it's worth department: rumor has it
ii> that the
ii> Tasmanian Devil is actually a Klingon pet. Is this true,
ii> John? ;-)
ii>
ii> Did some checking about the "meteors" seen a while back. So
Yet another computer model....
The point is that global climate cannot be encapsuLated in a
computer. Also, remember the GIGO principle!
New evidence from MIT puts a more sober light on ;the whole
scare. The models have been lacking sufficient OBSERVATIONAL
evidence to support the ad hoc assumptions about water vapour, lapse
rate, ice-albedo feedback, latent heat transport, sensible heat
transport, and cloud albedo.
The modelers have been building in every positive feedback
mechanism they could think of, but conveniently ignoring all the
negative feedbacks. Thus the 0.25 deg radiative effect of doubled
CO2 is blown out in the models to 2 to 5 degs.
All the greenhouse scientists are interested only in models,
models, and more models. There is a scarcity of
real observational evidence to support the scare.
Regards John Daly Tasmania
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From: paranet!f0.n1030.z9.FIDONET.ORG!Bob.Fletcher
Subject: Re: Mars Face
Date: 14 Feb 90 05:40:00 GMT
->
-> Hi Gene! or is your name Infor.par#co,.alpha.com^%$?
John, Don't be too skeptical at whay you see. The above is a usenet
address that links the unix sytems throuout the world. There could
be a bit on noise on this. I too have an address at Deakin
University it being "megatron@charlie.deakin.oz.au" however you need
an account on the unix to use this.
Your files will go out in the next few days. They have been held up
whilst I see what Alpha says. As they are not ParaNet files it have
been decided to allow them through the network but will carry
disclaimer distancing ParaNet from your theories.
Regards,
Bob.....
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From: paranet!f7.n1030.z9.FIDONET.ORG!Vladimir.Godic.
Subject: The Mundrabilla-Nullarbor Document
Date: 14 Feb 90 04:55:00 GMT
We have finally put together a package of all the information
we have on the January 20, 1988 Mundrabilla event.
Contents include police reports, news clippings, our investigation
notes and interviews with the Knowles, the truck drivers and results
of analyses. The package will be single sided A4 sized and unstapled.
You can put them into whatever "filing system" you want or we can
staple the document for you. Please state your preference, with
your order,- "stapled" or "unstapled". Price in Australia, including
packaging and postage, is $ 25.00. Overseas surface mail A$ 30.00.
Please make cheques, Money Orders etc, payable to:
"UFO Research Australia". Address: PO Box 229, Prospect, South
Australia 5082.
Vladimir Godic - UFORA Administrator
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From: paranet!f7.n1030.z9.FIDONET.ORG!Vladimir.Godic.
Subject: CIRCLES - News from UFORA
Date: 14 Feb 90 05:57:00 GMT
On Saturday December 16, 1989, Bill Chalker (UFORA Scientific
Cosultant) advised us of an article in the Melbourne "Truth"
concerning the discovery of a number of unusual circles in a wheat
crop. On the following day we received a call from the wife of the
property owner involved who related details of the finding. On about
December 12 or 13, two men were stripping wheat on the property of Max
and Nancee Jolly when they spotted two swirled cirles of wheat. These
were some 3 metres in diameter, surrounded by three other circles
approx. 1 metre across. The wheat had been flattened and swirled
anti-clockwise in each circle. Stalks were undamaged with grain
matured on the heads. Mrs Jolly told us of a number of possibly
related incidents which had occurred over recent years. These
included: November 1987.- Lights in the sky. 4000 litre water tank
drained. December 1988.- Son, Stuart, awoken by unusual noise which
seemed to come from an empty sky. August 1989. - Sheep disturbed.
Pulsating yellow lights hovering over paddock. High pitched noise
audible.
On December 18, Bill spoke to Nancee and Stuart and ascertained that
the story in the "Truth" was substantially correct, although the date
of the light in the sky report, in 1989, might be incorrect. Five
circles were located in all. Two had ben cut during harvesting but
were still evident. There is no direct correlation with any UFO event.
The countryside involved is gently undulating, otherwise largerly
flat.
Bill's tentative conclusio is: "Interesting UFO activity, traces may
not be relevant, There is no evidence, to date, directly linking them
to UFO explanation." Investigated by: Bill Chalker & Keith
Basterfield.
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From: paranet!f7.n1030.z9.FIDONET.ORG!Vladimir.Godic.
Subject: OZTRAIN
Date: 14 Feb 90 06:10:00 GMT
Jim:
I've just received additional information on the "OZTRAIN"
from Bob Fletcher. What we wanted is the initial source of
information, which now we know, so we can proceed with our
inquiries. Will keep you posted.
Vladimir
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From: paranet!f22.n30163.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Don.Ecker
Subject: Re: Richard Murray and Amnesty
Date: 13 Feb 90 15:41:00 GMT
To All:
I had occasion to meet Murray briefly this past year, and the
best that I can say is that Richard Murray is an opportunist and
entrepreneurial. When anyone suggests that Wm. Cooper is on the
ball, and that the NSA is verifying Cooper's material as "on the
money", little flags pop up. Come on, if any of you were not
around when Bill Cooper first came on the scene on ParaNet, look
in the files to see how many "revisions" Cooper made on his
paper before he "got it right".
CAVEAT EMPTOR ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !
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From: paranet!f22.n30163.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Don.Ecker
Subject: Re: The Co. & Drugs
Date: 13 Feb 90 15:48:00 GMT
Gene:
As you are undoubtedly aware, the Company and Special Forces, in
order to secure the loyalty of the indigenous Hill Tribesmen in
Viet Nam, Laos, and Cambodia, purchased their major cash crop
during the war years: opium.
-> channels. Col. Gritz and others have been investigating a
-> number of
-> connections between CIA and drugs. There has been a long
-> standing rumor
-> that the "CIA" used (uses) drug money to finance operations
There is really nothing new or shocking about the above; as
anyone can tell you, the Company has always made a habit and a
virtue out of "doing what has to be done". My big question has
always been just what did they do with the raw opium after they
bought it. Did they recoup their investiment? Silly question.
Don
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From: paranet!f22.n30163.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Don.Ecker
Subject: Update-Human Mutes
Date: 13 Feb 90 16:58:00 GMT
In the new issue of UFO Magazine, I have written an update on the
investigation of what appear to be more mutilations involving
humans.
During the November 1989 Omega conference hosted by John White,
Whitley Strieber castigated UFO Magazine for running my story on
human mutilations in Vol. 4 Number 3. In that news story, I
related the results of an investigation I was conducting on what
appeared to be a series of human deaths that greatly resembled
animal mutilations. Also, I included a report from Wm. "Bill"
Knell of the Long Island Skywatch organazation. Knell had been
conducting research into an inordinate number of missing children
in the area of Westchester County. According to Strieber, he had
received "hundreds" of phone calls from concerned citizens about
the story. ( That in itself is suspect, as anyone knows who has
ever tried to call Strieber. Strieber has an answering service
or secretary that screens each call, takes a message and then
Whitley decides on whom he will speak with. ) Anyway, I digress.
Knell has many police contacts, and after checking with them,
there were no contacts from Whitley. ( One could surmise that
what really had Whit in a snit was the way the print media had
lambasted his flick, Communion, and his recent books, such as
Majestic. He had just called all journalists - prostitutes. )
According to Knell and officers from the New York State Police,
and the Connecticut State Police, the reported figures were in no
way accurate, but the weirdest happening was when Knell received
an inquiry from an Asst. Medical Examiner from Westchester
County. The Asst. ME wanted to know everything Knell could
relate on humans that had been mutilated. When Knell pursued
this, it turned out that 3 morgues ( 2 in New York, 1 in
Connecticut ) had been "hit" in the middle of the night. Newly
arrived human cadavers had been mutilated by removal of face,
genitals, eyes, parts from the stomic, rectum, thyroids, etc.
The morgues were immediately investigated by the police, but
nothing could be placed on the employees. There were reduced
staff at that time of night, and the events occured in different
areas. High strangeness indeed. According to the Asst. ME, the
incidents were immediately concealed from the media and public.
More than likely the reasons were that there was no explanation,
nor were the incidents going to be solved in the near future. As
an aside, there were also quite a few animal mutilations that
were occuring in New York and Connecticut, and once again no
solutions were forthcoming for these events.
The Satanic explanation was examined, and according to the
reporting witness, did not hold water.
Any ideas from the membership? Needless to say, the
investigation is ongoing.
Don Ecker
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From: paranet!p0.f422.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Don.Sudduth
Subject: Re: Greenhouse Effect
Date: 13 Feb 90 23:28:00 GMT
The evidence seems to be growing rapidly. Recently, scientists
discovered that the CO2 content in the atmosphere has risen
dramatically since the last ice age. They used ice core samples in
Greenland and measured the CO2 content for each year. One result is
that human population alone can account for much of the CO2 rise.
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From: paranet!f3.n30163.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Doug.Rogers
Subject: Interesting names
Date: 14 Feb 90 01:52:36 GMT
John,
The names that seem to puzzle you (and other users of Paranet) so much
are account names on another cross-connected network called Usenet.
It is basically an interconnection of college (and some industry) owned
mainframes. The names used contain navagational data to help the net
deliver mail.
I hope this clears up some of the confusion. There ARE real people.
Doug
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