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Info-ParaNet Newsletters Volume 1 Number 135
Info-ParaNet Newsletters, Number 135
Thursday, January 25th 1990
Today's Topics:
cows
Re: Animal Mutilations
Re: Replies
Re: Ever hear of..
Re: Info-Paranet Newsletter
Re: Info-Paranet Newsletter
Mj-12,Lazar,Disinformation
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From: paranet!p0.f19.n19.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Bryon.Smith
Subject: cows
Date: 23 Jan 90 14:46:00 GMT
In a message to Bryon Smith <01-22-90 19:03> Jerry Woody wrote:
JW> Well, we never got any farther than the initial news story.
JW> The Police report in the newspaper gave no names. We got
JW> the impression from the Sheriff Dept. that it was none of
JW> our business & that we really shouldn't persue it any
JW> farther since it was 'under investigation' and no
JW> information would be released.
I am not surprised at their reaction, that's about normal for some of them.
JW> There had been 'satanic cult' activity in the area, but all
JW> the authorities found were dead chickens.
Rod Wilson and I have discovered there to be sightings of UFOs as well as
"satanic clut" activities in the same areas. We believe there may be a
connection somehow but are not sure what that connection might be. We don't
know if the UFOs are coming in to view our "religious" activities, or if
they are responsible for some of those activities, or what.
JW> There was another strange report in the Decatur Daily. It
JW> was doing a story on satanic cults and listed some animal
JW> mute events. I don't think i have the article to this one
JW> so I'm quoting from memory. This was about a cattle
JW> mutilation in Blount County, which neighbors Cullman on the
JW> East. I think the identical cuts were made to this farmers'
JW> cow, but he also stated that he found a very strange dart
JW> or arrow "that he had never seen the like of before" beside
JW> the cow. They wrote it up to satanic cults so no further
JW> info was given.
No doubt was cult activities, it would be interesting to see the dart.
...Bryon
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From: paranet!p0.f19.n19.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Bryon.Smith
Subject: Re: Animal Mutilations
Date: 23 Jan 90 16:06:00 GMT
In a message to All <01-21-90 20:29> Eric Brown wrote:
EB> The Charlotte Observer in Charlotte, NC recently reported
EB> on two animal mutilations this month (January) in nearby
EB> Cabarrus County. A cow and a deer were found, each with
EB> their tongue and left ear cut out.
How far were they from each other when they were found ?
Were there any signs of how they were killed ?
Was the dear a wild or domesticated animal ?
How near to the nearest residence were the animals found ?
If the nearest residence is withen sight of that area then try to find out
who lives there and if they seen or heard anything unusual during the time
when the animals were believed to have been killed. Also try to find out if
they have seen or heard anything unusual around there before. Sometimes a
UFO will visit an area where livestock is months or even a year before an
actual mutilation is found in that area, according to information from Linda
Howe.
Check with the Sheriff's department to see if there were any tracks found
near the animals. Ask them for any reports of "strange lights in the sky"
near that area prier to or after the animal bodies were found. Ask them if
a vet had been called in to assess the situation and if so try to get
his/her name and location of business, phone number, etc. If not then try
to find out if there were any body fluids found in the animals, or even
around on the ground near the animals.
See what you can find out and keep us informed.
Thanks.
...Bryon
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From: paranet!p0.f19.n19.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Bryon.Smith
Subject: Re: Replies
Date: 23 Jan 90 16:10:00 GMT
In a message to steve rose <01-21-90 00:21> Robert Sikes wrote:
RS> MANY, MANY BIRDS' DEATH WERE AIDS RELATED OR SOME OTHER
RS> VIRUS IS IRRELEVANT. IT WAS SURELY A VERY, VERY UNUSUAL
RS> AND STILL UNEXPLAINED
RS> EVENT SIR.
Birds falling from the air as you stated sounds more like chemical than
"germ" to me, but I have little understanding of such things.
I would think that a "sick" bird would land somewhere and die, rather than
just falling out of the air. Might have been some really "bad" germs.
...Bryon
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From: mailrus!uunet!crdos1.crd.ge.com!davidsen
Subject: Re: Info-Paranet Newsletter
Date: 25 Jan 90 14:20:35 GMT
-+ +From: keith@raptor.cray.com (Keith A. Fredericks)
-+ Subject: Lazar Bashing
-+ It seems that all I have been hearing lately is stuff like:
-+
-+ ``I am not a physicist...but, Lazar's not giving the atomic weight of element
-+ 115 and the gravity wave frequency makes it all sound really fishy.''
-+
-+ Hasn't this guy got it tough enough without these junior birdmen making these
-+ freshmen comments?
Since when is "Show me proof" a freshman comment. If you take it on
faith it's religion. If you want proof it's science. Which are you
looking for?
-+
-+ It seems to me to be too early to make a judgement as to the truth or
-+ falsehood of the assertions and ideas Lazar has presented. WE NEED MORE
-+ DATA.
And I don't see it coming from Lazar. He has "forgotten" the only
things which could be checked by anyone else, even though they can only
be checked for ballpark possibility.
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From: mailrus!uunet!crdos1.crd.ge.com!davidsen
Subject: Re: Info-Paranet Newsletter
Date: 25 Jan 90 14:21:19 GMT
-+ DATE OF ARTICLE: June 27, 1982
-+ SOURCE OF ARTICLE: Los Alamos Monitor
-+ LOCATION: Los Alamos, New Mexico
-+ BYLINE: Terry England
-+ The Honda isn't made for high-speed driving. Indeed, the total
-+ thrust, slightly above 1,600 pounds, is about the same as the car
-+ weighs.
-+
-+ "Theoretically, the car should become airborne if the thrust
-+ exceeds the weight," he said. "If you hit a rock, you're in
-+ trouble. That's one reason he cut down the thrust."
Theoretically this is a crock. Unless the jet is pointing straight
down, having the thrust greater than the weight doesn't do anything
special. Race cars develop thrust (through the tires, yet) of three
times the car's weight and don't become airbourne.
-+ "I went to a tire dealer and asked for some tires for the car,"
-+ he said. "The man asked, 'Is that your jet car parked out
-+ there?' I said yes and he said, 'Goodrich has been trying to get
-+ ahold of you. I've got four tires here they want to give you.'
-+ They cost $100 apiece," he said.
I don't understand this. If they were given to him what is the cost? I
can assure you that tires designed for 200mph are not that cheap, are
are usually not rated for street use. The few that might be would not
fit on a Honda unless it has a totally new suspension or Calif. allows
15 inches of tire outside the car body.
-+ The jet cannot get the car going from a dead stop, which enables
-+ Lazar and his wife, Carol, to demonstrate the engine to
-+ reporters.
More "weird technology"! Jet planes work fine from a stop. Art Arfons
(and his brother, son, and nephew) has built 30 jet powered race cars
and they all started from a dead stop. Before someone sys it, the
current cars are turbine powered driving through the wheels, but the
early drag cars, land speed cars, and boats were true jet.
-+ Unlike most jet engines, Lazar's design does not need the huge
-+ bulky compressors. This is because the fuel already is
-+ compressed, he said, making it the most efficient jet engine
-+ available. A standard jet uses six pounds of fuel for every
-+ pound of thrust; Lazar said he uses 1.3 pounds of fuel for a
-+ pound of thrust.
The compressor in a jet compresses the air, not the fuel. More "weird
technology."
If this is the same Bob Lazar, either the press is distorting his
remarks, or he doesn't know what he's talking about. I make no claims to
be an expert, but I have been racing and following racing technology for
30 years, and a lot of this is just hogwash.
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From: paranet!p0.f102.n268.z1.FIDONET.ORG!David.Blaker
Subject: Mj-12,Lazar,Disinformation
Date: 25 Jan 90 06:05:13 GMT
In response to the current issues that plagues all of the serious
UFO researchers, I feel we must all cooperate and concetrate our
efforts to specific issues.
First,I must agree with several comments concerning Bob Lazar.His
consistant inability to recall facts from memory.Why doesn't he
remember the frquency of the gravity wave.Obviously this is one of
the major aspects of his work.Also the lack of producing formulas
and equations to support his claims is inconsistant with someone
who is suppose to be a physicist.A simple physics equation v=s/t
v being velocity, s being distance and t being time.Lazar claims that
time stands still for a pilot in a craft as well as a bending or
folding of the fabric of space.If one uses the above equation such as
distance being say,100 light years divided by time which Lazar claims
is zero.We now have division by zero. which my computer calculates
velocity as being equal to " overflow division by zero
1.701418346042D+38" this to me represents a infinite number.
Why didn't Lazar use an example like this.Once we have some
mathematical proof and other testimony to verify his claims th whole
story will be much more concrete.
Secondly, we have a very interesting situation concerning the MJ12
documents. I really think SOME of what Bill Cooper said is true.
Example, the governments disinformation campain.Who has the time,money,
or resources to undertake such a task. The government of course.
Most of the claims of Bill Cooper, John Lear and even Bill Moore can be
correlated to one another and from other people.I am not defending
any of these people, but I feel their claims deserve at least some
consideration if not futher research to substantiate them.
A quote from Wilbert B. Smith from 1950 "The matter is most highly
classified in the United States, rating even higher than the H-bomb
There modus operandi is unknown but concentrated effort is being made
by a small group headed by Doctor Vannevar Bush.Certain samples have
been forwarded to me in Canada from Washington for analysis and that
after analysis I was to return the samples to a super secret group in
Washington.And that group was higher than the CIA.Is this group the so
called MAJI? Is this super secret group headed by Doctor Vannevar Bush
MJ12?
Is all of the information from the above mentioned people a GREAT
disinformation project? A lot of questions and no definite answers.
It would really be a shame if we accepted or ignored to willingly
somthing that might or might not be of great inportance to the UFO
research community.
Maybe this is what the government wants, diversion,distraction,and
confusion taking the attention off the truth. Or maybe what the human
mind won't accept the POSSIBLE TRUTH.
Hopefully time will procure the truth.
ALL COMMENTS WELCOMED!!!!!
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