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Info-ParaNet Newsletters Volume 1 Number 123
Info-ParaNet Newsletters, Number 123
Friday, January 12th 1990
Today's Topics:
Re: Lazar/Area51
Odds and Ends
Re: Lazar/Area51
Re: Lazar/Area51
Re: Klass in spyBASE
cows
Journalist needs info
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From: paranet!Don.Allen
Subject: Re: Lazar/Area51
Date: 10 Jan 90 08:16:00 GMT
BS>I don't like the idea of "preaching" "fear" though because of the
"gray's,"
that's something that could be used against us. I do believe there is
hope
in enlightenment and I do believe we have a powerful ally who isn't to
far
away.
@ Amen..I happen to believe in the "Space Brothers/Elders (choose
your own label here____________)" concept. From what I've read
"they" are following what is called "The Plan" of enlightenment
and the eventual freeing of the planet away from all the vested
power elite entanglements in wars,skirmishes and power plays.
I think I remember reading something about a timetable towards
the end of this century (which is < than 10 years now) of moving
the planet into a higher etheric orbit than what we have now.
Perhaps this is part of the reason that we have been experiencing
so many rapid changes on our planet in the realms of world
political events,weather changes,phenomena in the skies,etc.
Unfortunately my perception is that the beings that are in contact
more readily with our military are NOT the "lighted beings" but
are the outcasts of other worlds (Greys) and just maybe those
Greys have blackmailed the military into keeping their mouths
shut. Maybe the military struck a bargain with the "Devil"
for technology and are over their heads now..
So,in my opinion,we have two kinds of contact..the 'good" guys
and the really nasty "bad" guys.
There apparently MUST be something to this differentiation...witness
all the PAINS the military has taken since the early days of UFO's
to rabidly deny/debunk them. I suspect (but can't prove it) that
Phillip Klass and others of his ilk are on someones Govt payroll.
I tend to believe that UFO research will be a moot point here in a
few very short years..
I just wonder what would happen to the general public's perception
IF the well known Lazer interviews were more widely broadcasted
on local TV stations..
Has anyone tried to take any copies of their video tape to your
local TV station?
And even that poses some intriquing questions...like will the public
perceive that ALL UFO's are inhabited by nasty grey creatures with
no rectums and who have an appetite for humans??
There's something much deeper here,and I just wish I could have
the time and resources to delve into it more...most of my questions
now
now center on political/military connections with the greys
and their influence on our leaders and heads of state..
--
Don Allen - via FidoNet node 1:104/422
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From: gross@dg-rtp.dg.com (Gene Gross)
Subject: Odds and Ends
Date: 11 Jan 90 18:24:50 GMT
-++ Last week, presidential spokesman Marlin Fitzwater inadvertently
-++ declared that "the President has secret personal contacts with
-++ other worlds." Jeered by the press, he immediately corrected himself,
-+
-+ Whoa. Can you quote a source?
-+
-+ Jim [Speiser]
I wholeheartedly concur. Does anyone have a source for the above quote?
Wouldn't it be a real gas if after all this time Mr. Ex-CIA Chief
(a.k.a. President Bush) leaked the truth? I'd have to have my ribs
taped they'd hurt so much from laughing at the sheer irony of it. ;-)
-+
-+ From: paranet!p0.f37.n114.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Steve.Gresser
-+ Subject: Re: Lazar/Area51
-+ Date: 4 Jan 90 10:13:00 GMT
-+
-+ More important (or at least more immediate) than China,
-+ however, are the latest developments in Panama! Let's see a show of
-+ hands on whether or not Bush will allow Manuel to live, considering his
-+ great knowledge of Bush's dealings in drugs while head of the CIA? Any
-+ opinions (and that's all they CAN be for now) on why he walked out of
-+ the Vatican Embassy? Interesting stuff, that!
Steve, you can take it to the bank that Manuel will live. As for
evidence against El Presidente Bush, forget it. Manuel's files are in
American hands, and the CIA has long ago burned any incriminating
evidence against Bush. All that exists now is some innuendo and the
testimony of a dictator.
-+
-+ From: paranet!John.Burke
-+ Subject: Re: A few questions
-+ Date: 4 Jan 90 15:45:31 GMT
-+
-+ Jim: Another suspicious facet of the Lazar case was his mentioning of
-+ the fact that he saw reports of alien autopsies (photos included). I was
-+ immediately reminded of Bill Cooper's claim to have seen the Grudge 13
-+ report. Why, oh why, would Bob Lazar, a grunt physicist at S-4 (who
-+ claims to have had such limited access to information) have seen alien
-+ autopsies when they didn't even concern the specific work he was doing.
-+ Again, it is important to note how all this "above top secret"
-+ information is compartmentalized. Lazar's claim to have seen autopsy
-+ reports just makes his story sound that much more suspicious.
John: I'll grant you that this is suspicious, but it is still possible
that he could have seen the reports on the autopsies.
Compartmentalization works fine up to a point even under the most
stringent security. I'm not too keen on Lazar at this point myself, as
I've already posted. But I do know how things can break down within
highly classified operations. There are other things about Lazar and
his story that raise flags for me, such as his inability to remember key
details about discoveries that would have most physicists doing
hand-springs and shouting from the mountain tops.
Of course, I am willing to allow that Lazar may have reasons, very
personal reasons, for his lack of answers and details. But it does seem
awfully suspicious to me, IMHO. Nonetheless, I'm enjoying it. If he is
telling the truth, it certainly provides some 'interesting'
possibilities.
One last thing before I email this. Is anyone out there interested in
or involved in researching and studying the Face on Mars? I have been
studying the information available for the last couple of years and
would like to correspond with people on this. I joined the Mars Project
some time back to keep up with things and would be willing to pass along
information that I have, such as it is.
Gene Gross
gross@dg-rtp.dg.com
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From: paranet!p0.f19.n19.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Bryon.Smith
Subject: Re: Lazar/Area51
Date: 11 Jan 90 19:33:00 GMT
In a message to Bryon Smith <01-10-90 01:16> Don Allen wrote:
DA> @ Amen..I happen to believe in the "Space Brothers/Elders
DA> (choose your own label here____________)" concept. From what I've
DA> read "they" are following what is called "The Plan" of
DA> enlightenment and the eventual freeing of the planet away from all the
DA> vested power elite entanglements in wars,skirmishes and power
DA> plays.
I was leaving a reply for this message when someone knocked on the door and
by the time I got back the system had hung up on me and I lost the entire
message. I am not going to try to retype it all, but wanted to ask you
who's information you had been reading concerning the "space brothers ?"
I believe I have found some faults with certain information from some of
those who write about certain "space brothers," one of which is Brad
Stieger's group. You may have read a message I left about my thoughts
concerning this.
They do teach that the space brothers are wanting to raise our spiritual
awarness. I also believe there is a spiritual movement to help bring about
a significant increase in our spiritual awarness on a world wide scale.
They say the intermixing of the aliens with the humans was done for our
good. They say the "space brothers" were involved in this for our good. I
say they are sadly mistaken, and if it's these same "space brothers" who
were involved in that ordeal who told them these things, then they are
talking to the wrong "space brothers."
There are certain things they say that appear to be right, but certain other
information that does not appear to be right. They state something that is
more or less obvious or common knowledge, they say a few more things that
people want to hear, and then they add in a few more things that appear to
have come from the "gray's" themselves.
They use a few verses from the Bible that mention the intermixing of the
"son's of God" with the "daughters of men," and they say this was the
joining of the "space brothers" to "humankind" for the purpose of raising
our spiritual condition. Had they done their homework on the results of
this intermixing they would have discovered the descendants of these beings
were giants who made war on the earth and caused a great deal of trouble.
According to some the giants of Jerico were also descendants of "aliens" and
the results of their intermixing with humans. The story states that God's
people had been promised this land and the giants had taken it. Every
account in the bible that I have found where God's people were dealing with
giants they were enemies, and the Giants were against God, and God was
against the Giants. So who are these "space brothers," and why does Brad
Stieger believe "his" "space brothers" are here to do us a good deed ?
Labels can tend to mislead and handicap those trying to understand if
certain clarification is not provided.
I hope to have a file concerning my research on this soon.
...Bryon
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Bryon Smith - via FidoNet node 1:104/422
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From: paranet!p0.f19.n19.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Bryon.Smith
Subject: Re: Lazar/Area51
Date: 11 Jan 90 19:44:00 GMT
In a message to Bryon Smith <01-05-90 13:51> James Nannemann wrote:
You do ask some good questions and come up with some interesting things to
consider.
JN> like Lazar to spread the word that the aliens are
JN> benevolant beings, and we should not worry about them. If
JN> they were so benevolent, they would have been more straight
JN> forward in the first place.
This is also something one should consider. I don't trust the one's the
government is (said to be) dealing with. Government has never been noted
for their goodness and honesty.
...Bryon
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Bryon Smith - via FidoNet node 1:104/422
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From: paranet!f1.n304.z1.FIDONET.ORG!T.s..Bennett
Subject: Re: Klass in spyBASE
Date: 11 Jan 90 16:56:24 GMT
I've talked to Tracy quite a few times, I've been to Dulce quite a few
MORE times than he, he travelled around with the prime government
disinformant of this thing Bill Moore, its altogether too convenient that
he's in the "acting" trade. The CIA has employees in all walks of life
you know Jim, why even some people on this net could be taking money from
government source for the sake of "investigating" the Paranet!!!
--
T.s. Bennett - via FidoNet node 1:104/422
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From: mccrea@ecf.ncsl.nist.gov (MCCREA, SAM)
Subject: cows
Date: 12 Jan 90 18:12:15 GMT
I have seen several references to cattle mutilations in various postings
on paranet. Have these mutilations occurred near areas where UFO's have
been sited? Are the mutilations similar? Are parts of the cattle missing
or have they just been mutilated and left behind? How do the UFO
debunkers explain these mutilations? Are there multiple mutilations per
UFO siting or just one per? Thanks for any info on this.
Sam
Internet: mccrea@ecf.ncsl.nist.gov
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From: keithr@orca.WV.TEK.COM (Keith Rowell)
Subject: Journalist needs info
Date: 12 Jan 90 20:20:54 GMT
A journalist friend of mine is doing some UFO research. He is
interested in the 1948 "Estimate of the Situation" rejected by
Vandenberg. We would appreciate any book and especially magazine
article discussions of this topic. Any other sources of information
are welcome, too, of course -- FOIA documents(?).
-Keith Rowell, Tektronix, Wilsonville, OR keithr@orca.WV.TEK.COM
FAX: 503-655-4615
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