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Info-ParaNet Newsletters Volume 1 Number 090
Info-ParaNet Newsletters, Number 90
Wednesday, November 29th 1989
Today's Topics:
Re: The Secret Govt..
Re: Don Sudduth - The non-physical reality of UFOs
Re: Don Sudduth - The Non-physical Reality Of Ufos
Re: The Secret Govt..
Re: Don Sudduth - The Non-physical Reality Of Ufos
Re: The Secret Govt..
Refutation...
Re: The Secret Govt..
Re: Implant Recovered
Anthropogous aliens
LONG ISLAND UFO NETWORK
Re: The Secret Govt..
Lazar and his Amazing Saucers
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From: paranet!f37.n114.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Jim.Speiser
Date: Wed Nov 29 13:15:28 MST 1989
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>From: Jim.Speiser@f37.n114.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Jim Speiser)
Newsgroups: info.paranet
Subject: Re: The Secret Govt..
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Date: 28 Nov 89 16:12:00 GMT
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>difficult it is to do. Some have had millions and millions
>invested and still don't work and that is with everyone "on
I agree, Jim, I remember the fiasco of the IRS computer system (it was a
Sperry, I seem to recall). But that brings up a question.
Underneath Ft. Meade, the NSA headquarters, is the world's fastest and most
expensive computer, the Cray II (some say it is now a Cray III).
Simple question: WHY? What the hell is it
supposed to do? Just crack codes?
Jim
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From: paranet!f37.n114.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Jim.Speiser
Date: Wed Nov 29 13:15:35 MST 1989
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>From: Jim.Speiser@f37.n114.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Jim Speiser)
Newsgroups: info.paranet
Subject: Re: Don Sudduth - The non-physical reality of UFOs
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Date: 28 Nov 89 16:23:00 GMT
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Jim:
I think there is one area in which anomalistics has to diverge somewhat
from the scientific method, and that is that we have to admit that
"reports = evidence." We simply don't know what its evidence FOR. I think
its warranted in this case because it seems to me that to steadfastly
maintain that anecdotal evidence is inadmissible becomes more and more
UNscientific as the number of unheeded reports mounts. You're correct to
imply that there is no indisputable physical evidence at this point, but how
else would you have the researchers deal with the many reports? Would you
advise them to ignore the situation until something solid comes along? Its
also possible that the abduction researchers themselves have had a large
hand in "creating" the mystery, or at least mongering it somewhat. But
there is at least one good study on the situation by a highly reputable gent
which shows that this is not necessarily the case.
Jim
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From: paranet!f37.n114.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Jim.Speiser
Date: Wed Nov 29 13:15:41 MST 1989
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>From: Jim.Speiser@f37.n114.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Jim Speiser)
Newsgroups: info.paranet
Subject: Re: Don Sudduth - The Non-physical Reality Of Ufos
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>Sorry Jim, you're correct! What I meant to say is 'To
>ignore these reports is to ignore the vast amount of
>testimony' not 'evidence'.
Go ahead, Don. "Mek me fill chip!" <grin> I just left a beautiful message on
how "testimony = evidence" in anomalistics, and you go ahead and retract.
No, no, don't apologize, don't re-retract. Its ok. I'll be fine. Just
continue where you left off. Don't worry about me. No, really, I'm fine.
Really! No, its ok....
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From: paranet!Clark.Matthews
Date: Wed Nov 29 13:15:47 MST 1989
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>From: Clark.Matthews@paranet.FIDONET.ORG (Clark Matthews)
Newsgroups: info.paranet
Subject: Re: The Secret Govt..
Message-ID: <30763.25732F09@paranet.FIDONET.ORG>
Date: 28 Nov 89 23:34:00 GMT
Organization: Paranet Information Service, Denver, CO (303) 431-1343
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Well, the Beast need not be able to interact with the data bases of banks,
credit bureaus, etc. It would help, but it's not necessary. All the
monstrosity would need to do is to post a stream of transactions to the
victim's accounts until they were wiped out. Shell companies could be used
to run up the bills -- or the Beast could simply use the real account
numbers of businesses to zap a person's credit lines and the real interbank
numbers of banks to make their savings disappear via Fed wires, etc.
Remember, the object here is to squeeze someone -- and wiping out all their
resources via bogus or erroneous transactions will do that just as
effectively as anything. After all, it would take MONTHS or even YEARS to
track down all the questionable transactions via account numbers or
interbank numbers. Just ask any bank that's been a victim of computer
crime.
The IRS is fully capable of summoning up everything financial about you now.
The info is posted to their computers by banks, brokers, etc. It's not
interactive in most cases. Indeed, most banks & brokers would prefer that
the gov't NOT be able to access their complete data base & alter information
there. They probably wouldn't fight interactive access, though. Matter of
fact, they probably wouldn't even feel obliged to tell anyone. Why go to
bat for your clients, after all? (Just ask any program-trading brokerage
house or swindling S&L).
I don't see how money could be an object to creating the Beast, either.
After all, CIA built the Glomar Explorer & Air America and nobody noticed.
The telecommunications technology is here now to support the thing. And it
could pay for itself in some ways, too -- especially if the thing could
actually get money out of accounts.
Pleasant dreams,
Clark
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From: paranet!Clark.Matthews
Date: Wed Nov 29 13:15:52 MST 1989
Article 837 of info.paranet:
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>From: Clark.Matthews@paranet.FIDONET.ORG (Clark Matthews)
Newsgroups: info.paranet
Subject: Re: Don Sudduth - The Non-physical Reality Of Ufos
Message-ID: <30764.25732F0C@paranet.FIDONET.ORG>
Date: 28 Nov 89 23:53:00 GMT
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> You argue for the reality behind the
> myth. I just wanted to suggest (thru Dr. Vallee) that,
> perhaps, the reality IS the myth; i.e., we are only seeing
> (hearing, feeling) what someone else wants us to see and
> that what we think is reality (such as flying saucers) is
> really illusion.
> Do you think this may be possible??
Well put! The reality IS the myth! A very nice turn of phrase indeed, Don.
I think it could be entirely possible. After all, it's no more outre than
many other ideas about UFOs and their occupants and it has an equally sound
historical & anecdotal basis. It's also an open invitation to ridicule,
though. And that's what we don't need right now. Imagine Tom Brokaw
clearing his throat at the bottom 30 seconds of his newscast & saying:
"From UFO afficiondos and believers of all stripes comes this last item.
Three of the best-known, nationally published UFO authorities now claim a
solid link between Unidentified Flying Objects -- or Unidentified Areal
Objects as they prefer to call them -- and the elves, pixies and leprechauns
of lore. They say, 'The myth is the message'. We say, 'We'll see.' Thanks
for watching. Good night."
See? The association is fatal.
But I must say that I have always felt that the UFOnauts -- or some of them
-- seem to have a very good working knowledge of earthly technology and its
forms. The 1897 Airship Scare is a good example. Some kind of vehicle that
can "pass" credibly for a motorized baloon (and this was just at the time
Count Zeppelin was beginning to get attention with his experiments -- NOT
his airships, which came later). The "Aeroplane" Wave of the late 1900's
and the 1930s is another example. Someone knew enough about airplanes to
mimic their appearance and/or the sound that they made. One of the things
cruised and circled over Times Square in 1907 (? I think). Problem was, it
wasn't a machine built by the Wrights, or Glenn Curtis, or anyone else.
Likewise, the Westchester Wing bears more than a passing resemblance to the
Stealth bomber, though it's larger & festively lit. Coincidence? I don't
pretend to know.
But it's worth noting that in some contact cases, the beings aboard some of
these things demonstrate remarkable ignorance. I mean, if someone's capable
of creating the illusion of a textbook flying saucer, wouldn't they know the
color yellow when they saw it? Yet in the Barney/Betty Hill case, the alien
asked Betty Hill what "yellow" meant.
Still, associate UFOs with the historical record of mythic beings like
trolls, elves, leprechauns and the Celtic Shee and you create very
unfortunate perceptions. As a child of the 20th Century, I just want to see
one of these machines up close and get some instruction on how it works &
how to make one of my very own. That's all. I don't care if I'm taking
dictation from a troll, elf, sprite, pixie, Reticulan, Nordic, or my
great-aunt Tilly via a Ouija board.
Whoever these guys are, they've got something we could probably use...
Best,
Clark
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From: paranet!Clark.Matthews
Subject: Re: The Secret Govt..
Date: 29 Nov 89 00:11:00 GMT
Ostensibly, yes, the NSA's Crays (they have several) are just there to crack
codes & screen traffic. I imagine they have machines more or less dedicated
to both tasks. They'd probably use several machines to crack codes, with
the different machines running in parallel. An individual Cray would
perhaps not be powerful enough to crack complex algorithms, but would be
very handy for high speed scans of intercepted telexes, twx's, and other
data traffic for key words or numbers in many different languages.
With the new RISC based computers coming out now, the Crays may have seen
their day, however. By clustering these new babies it's possible to exceed
Cray performance. So, if Uncle Sammy can fork up the dollars for lots of
high-speed virtual storage (when when was MONEY ever a problem?), NSA will
be able to scan virtually all the data they intercept.
Including everything everybody ever posts to a bulletin board.
Pleasant dreams,
Clark
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From: paranet!f1.n304.z1.FIDONET.ORG!T.s..Bennett
Subject: Refutation...
Date: 28 Nov 89 20:23:00 GMT
I have addressed this message to ALL, because its obvious
that when I address a message to certain people, even though
I use universal third person terms like," one, they, them,
most, others, etc.", the people I have addressed the message
to think I have been talking about them. If I say something
about scientists to a person that says he is one, and state
my opinion that MOST scientists are close minded, that
person takes it personally and thinks that I mean that they
are close minded. Guilt by association, actuality of the
fact of close mindedness, or insecurity can be the reason.
This forum is called a conference, that means to confer,
that means people are going to state their OPINIONS mixed in
with some FACTS, MOST of it based on SPECULATIVE FILES in a
DATABASE that is FULL OF INCONSISTENCY, and built like a
house of cards, with each file adding to the one previous,
embellishing, adding to, and outright prevarication occur.
This means that other people after having read the MIX
OF FACTS, OPINIONS, and SPECULATIONS, will have to make up
their response to those OPINIONS, FACTS, and SPECULATIONS to
the best of their ability.
THERE IS NO WAY TO PROVE A NEGATIVE.
So ask me when I'm going to stop beating my wife! I'll
tell you I'm not married, so you assume I'm beating my
girlfriend, my boyfriend (if I was homo), or my "thing" if I
was lonely.
As to do with the FACTS, there are plenty of inadvertent
TYPOS that occur here, plenty of MISSPELLINGS, plenty of
MISTAKES, but I haven't seen much in the way of outright
LYING! That's because liars are smart enough to know that
they will be uncovered by someone else who knows the FACTS.
I have stated that scientists DONT KNOW WHAT WILL OCCUR
WHEN 50 POUNDS OF PLUTONIUM ENTERS THE ATMOSPHERE OF
JUPITER. THAT'S A FACT. Only a close minded scientist who
hasn't had an original thought since age ten would disagree
with that FACT. (I lowered myself to an impersonal attack!)
My entries into this forum have been labeled:
<<statements were (and still are) unsubstantiated.>
<<his claims became more and more absurd.>
<<merely repeat and embellish unsubstantiated information.>
<<He has been more active (and more absurd)>
<<he has been the most absurd and abrasive>
What is the reason for this attack on me?
Are awards going to be passed out? I would swoon from
the honor of being compared to Galileo himself, who
speculated, but BASED HIS SPECULATIONS ON FACTS. Other timid
and insecure people of his day "declined" to look through
his telescope, not wanting to observe the IRREFUTABLE FACTS
that led Galileo to his conclusion that the Earth was NOT
the egoistic religious center of anything, and therefore
humans were not the center of God's Universe either.
"Declining to look through his telescope" is another way
of saying they were scared to death of losing their jobs,
their lives, or their government research grants, didn't
want to be labeled as heretics, and ostracized by their
peers. In short they were mostly WIMPS. The difference
between me and Galileo is that I dont care if anybody
believes me or not, I dont like being called a liar, and I
certainly wont kiss the pope's butt. Like Larouche would say
after he gets done with his 15 years at Leavenworth, "At
least I'm not a wimp!"
Lazar is either supposed to leak the saucer info, or he is not a WIMP!
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From: paranet!p0.f102.n268.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Paul.Faeder
Subject: Re: The Secret Govt..
Date: 29 Nov 89 04:15:21 GMT
In a message of <26 Nov 89 21:03:00 >, Clark Matthews (1:104/422) writes:
>I know some ParaNeters work in the info technology field ... do any of us
>have any knowledge of such a super-system? At this stage it would
>probably have to be hydra-like, with network nodes in several different
>places on each continent. It would have to be tied together over leased
>lines (T1s or CEPT lines) and almost certainly satellite up/downlinks.
I'm not in the info technology field. But I was quite surprised that about 2 or 3 days after my father had died two years ago, all of his bank accounts were frozen and his credit card accounts were terminated or frozen also. All of this seems to be timed with the issuance of his death certificate. How so many places were knowlegable of his death and able to freeze or cancel accounts leads me to think that some sort of system is already in place. While I don't thinks it's The Beast a system is in place. Most likely keyed into the social security number.
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From: paranet!Ann.Yeoman
Subject: Re: Implant Recovered
Date: 28 Nov 89 17:48:48 GMT
I really would have liked to see that edition of Hard Copy. However,
I couldn't find it on any of the local stations. I don't have a large
selection. But we do get ABC, NBC, CBS, and Fox. I was all set up with
a blank tape in the VCR, but all I could find was football!
Can you give a synopsis of the program? I'd be interested to hear
about the content of the program.
Thanks!
Regards,
Ann
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From: taos!uucp
Subject: Anthropogous aliens
Date: 28 Nov 89 22:47:06 GMT
I just read in the latest Skeptical Inquirer that John Lear believes that the
aliens in the Nevada area are obligately anthropophagous and that this might
explain some of the missing children. The government has essentially granted
them a hunting license for this purpose. Is this a correct summary of his views
and are there any more details available? Is this a hoax or paranoid joke?
The idea that extraterrestrials might require some chemical substance in human
bodies and need to consume them to get it is very unlikely technologically,
economically and biologically. Even terrestrial chemists can synthesize any
defined natural product, though it may be stillcheaper to let nature do the
synthesis. Certainly technically advanced ET's that can cross interstellar space
should be able do the same. Economically, it makes little sense to prey on
humans individually when such a hypothetical substance could be obtained from
human tissue cultures, waste tissue (placentas, etc.), lower animals (mice,
plants, etc.) or microorganisms (wild types or genetically engineered strains).
There is nothing chemically unique about humans except their DNA and the
proteins it encodes and these genes can be cloned or the proteins extracted from
waste tissue. All of these alternatives would be cheaper than travelling here
to hunt humans. Our pharmaceutical industry would be delighted to have a
customer who would pay in new technology and not have the product subject to the
FDA, etc. I'll be delighted to start a mouse farm or a biotech company to
supply their needs.
Biologically, the idea makes even less sense. Humans use other earth
organisms for food because we evolved here and all terrestrial life contains the
same basic sugars, amino acids, fats, and vitamins. Certain organisms have
evolved the ability to make repellent, powerfully toxic or even attractive
secondary metabolites precisely because earth life has been coevolving and
competing for 3 or 4 billion years.
ET lifeforms would probably be CONH based, but the details of their metabolism
would probably be very different. ET's might well find us indigestible or
poisonous, but I don't see how they could have a nutritional need for human
flesh if they evolved elsewhere. What did they eat before they arrived on the
earth? If this is a new disease (SPACE AIDS?), it seems a remarkable
coincidence that only human flesh will cure it.
I suspect that the predominance to humanoids in popular SF and UFOlogy
represents a crypto-creationism. "They" have to look like us because we were
made in God's image and he is universal, etc.
--John
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From: taos!uucp
Subject: LONG ISLAND UFO NETWORK
Date: 29 Nov 89 16:47:24 GMT
Hi there. My name is Ed Sanborn and I'm the MUFON State Director for
Mass. I've been watching the traffic on Paranet for the last couple of weeks
and I'm quite pleased with what I read. It's great to have the quick
turnaround on information exchange while reaching lots of individuals at one
time. I received the following in the mail from a member of the LIUFON on
Friday Nov. 24, 1989:
LONG ISLAND U.F.O. NETWORK
P.O. BOX 232
Center Moriches, New York 11934
HOTLINE (516) 286-3212
A NON-PROFIT RESEARCH ORGANIZATION
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NEWS BULLETIN.... NEWS BULLETIN.... NEWS BULLETIN.... NEWS BULLETIN....
PRESS RELEASE: FOR IMMEDIATE COPY
The Long Island UFO Network, Inc., a non-profit research organization
based on Long Island, announces to the media of the Metropolitan area and the
Nation that we have evidence that on September 28, 1989 the United States
Armed Forces attempted to recover a disabled, or landed UFO. The incident
occured on the Dune Area of Smith's Point Beach near entrance to the
Moriches Bay. Military and Suffolk County Police Helicopters were involved in
an apparent attempt to monitor the craft on the Beach. A second object
estimated to be 574 feet to a thousand feet long was observed hovering over
the Bay. It was composed of six tremendously large lights.
The helicopters (six involved) were composed of four military helicopters
and two Suffolk County Police Helicopters. These helicopters surrounded the
large object (commonly referred to as a mother ship) in a circular rotation
passing around this object in a counter clockwise flight, the helicopters
would then fly over the second downed object in the dunes. As this manuever
was completed, the area would be illuminated by the helicopters searchlights in
an attempt to illuminate what was on the ground.
Long Island UFO Network, Inc. has interviewed the eyewitnesses to this
event. The family lives in Center Noriches Long Island. The husband, wife,
and their adult son observed the large object from their backyard in response
to military helicopter overflights of their home. The husband and son drove
to the Union Ave. dock and for two and a half hours observed the operation.
The witnesses described the operation to LIUFON investigators' under the
provision their identities and address be held in the strictest confidential-
ity. For their protection they were interviewed on tape under fictitious
identities and addresses. The husband's taped interview is available to the
media for examination with permission of the witness.
The case is under further investigation by LIUFON investigators. As
more information develops it will be released to the media. The case will be
discussed at our foth coming conference on October 29th in Middle Island,NY at
the Artist Lake Condominium Center.
There exists 48 photographs of this occurence taken by the eyewitnesses.
They have been impounded by LIUFON for scientific evaluation. As soon as
tests are finished they will be presented to the public on the Joel Martin
Cable TV Show on cablevision at a date to be announced.
We call upon the FAA, Suffolk County Police and the United States
Government to comment on this. Did they have UFO's over Moriches Bay on Sept.
28, 1989 between 8:45 P.M. to 11:30 P.M. and were they monitoring it?
LIUFON demands to know, the public demands to know and the World demands to
know.
For further information contact the Long Island UFO Network, Inc. at
the Hotline No. 516-286-3212.
---------------------
That's it for now. Speaking to Mr. Ford, the curator of LIUFON he says the're
working on FOIA requests and such. I'll post more info as I receive it,
Ed
P.S. My Home # is (508) 453-5609
Work # is (508) 937-1600 x.247
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From: cyrill
Subject: Re: The Secret Govt..
Date: 29 Nov 89 20:42:31 GMT
In article <30766.25732F0F@paranet.FIDONET.ORG> Clark.Matthews@paranet.FIDONET.ORG (Clark Matthews) writes:
+Ostensibly, yes, the NSA's Crays (they have several) are just there to crack
+codes & screen traffic. I imagine they have machines more or less dedicated
+to both tasks. They'd probably use several machines to crack codes, with
+the different machines running in parallel. An individual Cray would
+perhaps not be powerful enough to crack complex algorithms, but would be
+very handy for high speed scans of intercepted telexes, twx's, and other
+data traffic for key words or numbers in many different languages.
This has been done for years by NSA and others. Books have even been written
about one place in Maryland that does just this. The computer systems are
run in tandem of two or more and are very fast (Cray's) and will still smoke
RISC computers to this date.
-Cyro
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From: taos!uucp
Subject: Lazar and his Amazing Saucers
Date: 29 Nov 89 20:47:15 GMT
Hello, paranet friends,
I have been reading the newsletter from paranet for some time now.
This is my first posting.
+I just had an interesting thought...if you had been sitting on the secret
+of S-4 and dreamland for a long while, and had instructions to release the
+information to the public only if it would not cause a crisis, what better
+time to stage-leak the real story, as most of Eastern Europe and the Soviet
+Union call off the cold war? Perhaps what Reagan was telling Gorbachev
+in their summit conferences is that we'll all hang separately if we don't
+hang together.
+
+More paranoia from,
+
+Michael Sloan MacLeod (amdahl!drivax!macleod)
Regarding Lazar, I just wonder about the fact that we are on the eve
of a summit of great significance to the entire world. As much as
we would all like to believe this intriguing tale (since so many
questions would be answered), I have to think that our government
has a powerful motivation at the moment for promoting this kind of
idea.
Given the credulity of Soviets on this subject, how likely is it
that the Soviet intelligence community is going crazy right now
trying to verify this story before the summit? Is this all
designed to throw Gorbachev off balance?
If our government tried to announce such a thing (supposing it is
false) they would be innundated with requests for demonstrations
and explanations, which would ruin the ruse. But the region where
these events are alleged to have occurred would be under constant
scrutiny by Soviet agents, given the history of the area. The
agents assigned to the area probably observed the news programs
with great interest.
Then there is the involvement of Cooper. Readers will have to judge
for themselves the significance of this.
Here is my scenario:
Lazar works for some intelligence outfit. His background was wiped
out (ineffectively) in the hopes that the attempt to erase his
history would give credibility to his story. Others that come
forward are part of the same effort. Some are actual believers
who have been convinced by the thoroughness of the deception.
The information is released in controlled packets, perhaps some
intelligence leaks were provided directly to Soviet agents to
prepare them to be receptive when the television program came on.
It all is building up so that the climax of the scam occurs just
before the summit. The result is that Gorbachev is off balance
and Bush has the advantage.
I think this is much more likely than the possibility that what
Lazar says is true, for these reasons:
1) If this project were so top secret as Lazar says, he would
never have appeared on that program. Lazar said they knew
he was going to leak in advance. If that were true he
would have been dead. They would not wait until now to
take sniper shots at him, and if they did, they wouldn't
miss.
2) Bill Cooper has discredited himself, and he appears to be
involved.
3) After reading on the subject, I am inclined to believe that
the spiritual/supernatural/extradimensional aspect is the
most significant. I could go into this, but let me just
say that I too have been reading Dimensions, and the ideas
presented there make more sense than anything else I have seen
on the subject. This story does not fit the scenario.
Instead it fits into a neat materialistic mold which would
allow the military to control the phenomena by purely
physical means. This does not mean it is necessarily bogus,
it just makes me suspicious. It is too neat; too easy and pat.
4) The gov't has a history of "leaking" bogus UFO stories.
5) They are motivated to try to maintain the upper hand by the
significance of this summit, in light of political developments.
This whole thing may have been generated directly in response
to developments in Eastern Europe.
6) The whole thing may be relatively unimportant to our intelligence
community - just another little game to try to keep the other
guys confused, and good practice at generating disinformation.
Sorry, it's just too bizarre to believe without tons of corroboration
from many independent sources.
Cheers,
--Steve
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