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Info-ParaNet Newsletters Volume 1 Number 096
Info-ParaNet Newsletters, Number 96
Thursday, December 7th 1989
Today's Topics:
Hungarian Sitings, Rocky Mtn News, 12/4/89
Re: 115,Etc.
Implant/KP
For Your Information
Re: MacArthur and MUFON
Re: The State of Events
Re: Implant/kp
UFOs: The Best Evidence Altered?
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From: paranet!f428.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Michael.Corbin
Subject: Hungarian Sitings, Rocky Mtn News, 12/4/89
Date: 6 Dec 89 10:04:00 GMT
> From the Rocky Mountain News, Mon. Dec 4, 1989, (without
> permission), pp. 4:
Thanks for the tip. I missed that article in the News. Should
pay closer attention to local events.
Mike
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From: paranet!Marc.Dantonio
Subject: Re: 115,Etc.
Date: 6 Dec 89 20:56:00 GMT
John
Glad to hear your reply and confidence in Wesleyan. I usually attended
most of the Gamelan concerts and still do occasionally. On the other
stuff, I am quite patient and have learned courtesy of my alma mater,
that true research requires a patience beyond that which is required in
raising children! Nice to hear from you!
Marc
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From: chalmers@violet.berkeley.edu (John H. Chalmers Jr.)
Subject: Implant/KP
Date: 6 Dec 89 22:52:50 GMT
Implants: My photochromic glass theory may not be the correct
explanation for the silver-containing glass implant, but at least
it's testable.
I don't think it unlikely that a person might suffer a minor
mishap, get a cut in the leg, and not notice a small piece of glass
imbedded in the wound. It might have been there for several years
before the incident which triggered the abduction report occurred.
In which case, however, I would expect that there would be some tissue
reaction to the particle of photochromic glass as most silica-containing
materials such as glass fibers, quartz dust, and especially asbestos
do react. Diseases such as silicosis and some lung cancers are due to the damage
the reaction does to surrounding healthy tissues.
A pathologist might be able to estimate how long the fragment had
been in the person's leg by the extent of the reaction around the implant
site and the condition of the implant's surface if it hadn't been cleaned
completely.
Glass is be easily etched by strong alkalis or flouride containing solutions.
If the glass were multiphasic or had been heated to cause
devitrification, one component might etch at a faster rate than the matrix,
leaving a honeycomb pattern. Some commercial glasses are processed this way.
I suspect all of us on paranet would be interested in learning
exactly how the physical evidence in this case was been obtained, examined
and preserved. It may still be possible to do some definitive investigation
into the nature of the implant and when it was emplaced.
KP: Thanks for the references. "The Science in Science Fiction" was
also the title of a column written by Gregory Benford in Amazing Stories.
At least in the case of a leaf with only a portion missing,
the Drexel U. researchers found that moisture coming from the cut edges
could explain the KP image of the missing piece.
I have noticed that pencil marks on filter paper will sometimes expose
X-ray film if left in contact for several days at -70 C. I dont't know whether
this is due to phosphorescence or chemiluminescence of the "lead", radio-active
impurities either picked up in the lab or endogenous to the clay and graphite of
the "lead," but it can be useful it you're doing molecular biology and have to
mark the orientation of "blots."
--John
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From: paranet!f428.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Michael.Corbin
Subject: For Your Information
Date: 7 Dec 89 01:25:00 GMT
(C) 1989 J. Allen Hynek Center for UFO Studies
(Reprinted with exclusive rights to ParaNet Information Service)
Editorial
Wild Goose
Two and a half years ago, the MJ-12 briefing document,
allegedly written in November 1952 to inform President-elect
Eisenhower of two UFO crashes (Roswell, 1947, and the Texas-
Mexico border, 1950) and of a supersecret project called
Majestic-12, was unleashed on the world, by Bill Moore in
California and Timothy Good in England. Today the issue remains
unsettled, though at the moment the skeptics seem to have the
upper hand. (They argue that the signature of President Truman
on another alleged MJ-12 document, which arrived on the same roll
of 35mm film that the briefing document did, is identical to
Truman's signature on another, undisputed, non-UFO document from
the same period, the implication being that a hoaxer appended a
real signature to a bogus document.) Within a few weeks Stanton
Friedman will have submitted his report on his investigation to
the Fund for UFO Research, which gave him $16,000 with which to
conduct the inquiry.
At that time perhaps we will be able to come to a fully-
informed judgment. And perhaps then, too, we will have a chance
to reflect on whether it would have been wiser to spend that
money on further investigation of the Roswell incident, next to
which MJ-12 (for which so far evidence barely exists) is a
distinctly secondary issue. It is sadly true that the MJ-12
uproar, for all the paper it has generated, has produced not much
of substance (and not a single serious researcher, even Friedman,
willing to identify himself as a "proponent" of the document).
Certainly the MJ-12 affair has done little to enhance any real
understanding of how the United States government dealt with the
UFO phenomenon, including the presumed hard evidence from the
Roswell crash.
This is not to say that the briefing paper is unworthy of
investigation; it certainly ought to have been, and to be looked
into, at lease as time and resources permit. But in retrospect
it seems clear that Roswell, not MJ-12, should have remained the
primary focus. It is too bad that the issue of the cover-up was
allowed to drift from something substantive (just how substantive
will become clear next year when IUR reports in full on what
CUFOS' Roswell investigation has uncovered) to a document sent
anonymously and presumably by individuals already implicated in
what everyone now acknowledges to be the spread of
disinformation. It must also be noted that it was out of the MJ-
12 swamp that the lurid pulp fantasies of John Lear, Bill Cooper
and Bill English bubbled to the surface. According to Bill
Moore, himself a central figure in the MJ-12 controversy, those
tall tales about man-eating aliens were cooked up (so to speak)
by intelligence-agency people seeking further to confuse an
already deluded UFO buff. Moore acknowledges that he helped the
process along. As he told an audience at this year's MUFON
conference, "The entire story of a secret treaty between the U.S.
government and the aliens, of exchanges of technology between us
and the aliens, of battles between aliens and American armed
forces, and of aliens allegedly having implanted human
beings...came about as a result of this process. I know because
I was in a position to observe much of this process as it
unfolded and I was providing regular reports on its effectiveness
to some of the very people who were 'doing it'..."
It requires neither imagination nor paranoia to conclude
that it was also done to Moore, who over a period of years (and
continuing even now) has been the recipient -- not the only one
-- of astonishing but unverifiable tales about Extraterrestrial
Biological Entities, including live ones in government custody.
Moore's informants, said to be military-intelligence people,
produced (despite promises) no documentations for any of these
claims, which had at least the advantage of being less
insultingly illogical than Lear-Cooper-English's brainless
scenario. As I remarked in an earlier editorial (IUR,
September/October 1988), these sorts of claims "make a certain
hypothetical sense," given what might have followed from a
Roswell incident (such as an attempt to contact the controlling
intelligences behind the attempt to contact the controlling
intelligences behind the UFO phenomenon to learn what their
purpose is), but "the evidence supporting them is all but
nonexistent."
One of the interesting features of the MJ-12 paper, not
often remarked on, is that it is not in concordance with the EBE
story. As the EBE story (or at least a part of it) goes, in 1949
one EBE survived a UFO crash and spent the next three years at
Los Alamos before expiring in 1952. Supposedly EBE was blabbing
the full story of the ET visitation to his captors -- a detail
curiously absent from the Eisenhower briefing document. At the
same time, as IUR readers will learn in future issues, the
briefing paper's account of the Roswell event is essentially
accurate. That is, I suppose, of some small comfort to whoever
still harbors hope for the briefing paper's authenticity.
Another small source of comfort has been the absence of any truly
compelling arguments against the briefing document itself, though
plenty of arguments pretending to be that have been advanced.
(As already noted, an MJ-12-related document, part of the
briefing paper's appendix, Truman's supposed September 24, 1947,
order bringing Majestic-12 into being, does appear vulnerable.)
Friedman and Moore have done a good job of showing where the
critics are mistaken, but even they concede this is not an
argument for the briefing paper's authenticity. It is always
possible, and in this case maybe even probable, that the critics
are right even if their reasons are wrong.
Perhaps the most surprising claim the briefing paper makes
is that Donald Menzel, Harvard astronomer and archdebunker of UFO
reports, was a member of Majestic-12, thus making him a conscious
agent of an anti-UFO disinformation campaign. This remarkable
assertion led Friedman to conduct the sorts of inquiries into
Menzel's background that no one had done before. Friedman
learned ("the Secret Life of Donald H. Menzel," IUR,
January/February 1988) that Menzel possessed the highest security
clearances and was well-placed within the U.S. intelligence
community -- just as he would have had to be to be privy to the
Ultimate Secret. This amounts to a finding of the consistent-
with-the-hypothesis variety, but nothing more. No hint that
Menzel secretly took UFOs seriously has come to light, and those
who knew him best, including his wife, reject the idea out of
hand. To this Friedman rejoins, reasonably enough, that Menzel
would not have breathed a word of this even to family members.
Yet Menzel's ferocious UFOobia was far in excess of what he would
have had to exhibit to lead the press and fellow scientists away
from the scent (not that most even knew there was a scent),
suggesting that he was not acting under orders but out of the
sort of manic obsession that has fueled other sincere if
misguided debunkers.
Nonetheless Menzel's appearance on the MJ-12 list is
undeniably curious. Presumably it means something. It may
indicate, since practically nothing of Menzel's secret life in
intelligence was known before Friedman's investigation, that the
hoax (if hoax it was) was perpetrated by individuals privy to
classified information. In other words, this is no ordinary
hoax; it had a serious purpose connected with national-security
concerns. On the other hand, the hoaxer may have erred in making
one extraordinary claim too many. Amusingly, it is not the
briefing document's claim of a UFO crash that is the most
difficult to believe; it is the claim that Menzel knew about it.
The evidence for the crash is substantial, that for Menzel's
knowledge of it is nil. A friend of mine once suggested that
perhaps Menzel's name was put on the list for a reason: to
assure any knowledgeable person within the intelligence community
that the briefing paper was not, after all, a real leak of real
information.
None of this is to say, of course, that the MJ-12 briefing
document has been proven to be bogus, or that no such project
(whether called MJ-12 or something else) could have existed. But
it is to say that, despite the enormous, even heroic, research
efforts of Stan Friedman, the issue is as unresolved -- and
probably unresolvable -- as ever. It could be true. It could be
one of those exceedingly rare instances in human history when
diamonds are found floating in cesspools. That doesn't happen
often. More conceivably (though also unprovably), the briefing
paper was hatched as part of a scheme to distract investigators
form pursuits truly threatening to the cover-up.
To all present appearances (though future events may
radically alter our perception), the MJ-12 controversy has gotten
us nowhere, maybe less than nowhere, since it has consumed
valuable time that might have been spent more productively on
other matters, not the least of them Roswell. From the
beginning, it is true, CUFOS encouraged the MJ-12 investigation
and IUR has reported, and will continue to report, new
developments. But ufology's resources are limited and I think
most would agree, after 2 1/2 years, that MJ-12 has eaten up too
many of them already. Unless Friedman's Fund report brings forth
major new evidence, all of us would be well-advised to move on to
something else. If an answer to the MJ-12 puzzle is to be found,
perhaps we'll get to it one day, while we're looking for
something else. But as a whole new chapter in the Roswell saga
begins to unfold, we have better things to do than to pursue a
wild goose across a barren landscape. -- Jerome Clark
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From: paranet!f37.n114.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Jim.Delton
Subject: Re: MacArthur and MUFON
Date: 7 Dec 89 05:49:00 GMT
I'm glad you followed up on that Don but I bet you never hear from
Buccannan (sp?). Wish I had seen the show although seeing Bucannan is
never exactly a treat.
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From: paranet!f19.n19.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Bryon.Smith
Subject: Re: The State of Events
Date: 7 Dec 89 16:22:00 GMT
> With all the sightings and reported landings it would be a
> good idea to see if there is a method to the events which
> shows planning rather than random events. I know of several
> possibilities. 1- concentrated sightings preceeded by large
> tri-angular craft. 2- Banana shaped discriptions out of
> context. 3-Large big foot creatures sighted or (Aliens)
Yes, I have certainly noticed something of a pattern in it.
Also noticed that an area north of Miami, OK where a good number of
sightings have taken place is also an area where "Satanists" do their
"thing." I was wondering if there might even be a connection between these
things, and what is your opinion on this ?
Also, why arn't there more people respoinding to your messages ?
I have not had the time to get caught up on them, so I am way behind.
...Bryon
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From: paranet!Marc.Dantonio
Subject: Re: Implant/kp
Date: 7 Dec 89 17:15:00 GMT
On the implant...
I myself have one. It is a very small black dot in the center of my
palm much as in "Logan's Run"'s life crystal. In my case though it is
the remnant of a childhood mishap where I buried the graphite pencil
point deep in my hand and then broke it off. It was never removed for
unknown reasons but years of growth have given it an eerie appearance
much like a sub-cutaneous implant would.... Just thought I would add to
all of this a little!
Marc
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From: paranet!f428.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Robert.Klinn
Subject: UFOs: The Best Evidence Altered?
Date: 8 Dec 89 00:19:00 GMT
Part 5 Conclusion
<....Continued from previous message>
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[CUT:]
Knapp:
His desire to explain what really happened at S-4 took him to Layne
Keck, a licensed, experienced hypnotherapist who quietly and
privately tried to help Lazar remember details of the many briefing
papers he says he read.
[CUT:]
Keck:
I have no clue as to what we were getting to, and he started saying
that there were pictures of what I thought was DESKS on the wall.
Well as it turned out, it was DISKS that he was referring to. And
at that moment I realized we were into something that was pretty heavy.
[CUT:]
Knapp:
Keck does not exaggerate his claims for hypnosis. He regards it
as a useful tool for uncovering some lost memories. He says
people are quite capable of lying under hypnosis but says the technique
can be of help in determining truth. What's his opinion of Lazar's
truthfulness?
[CUT:]
Keck:
It tells me that his subconscious mind believes totally all of
these things.
[CUT:]
Lazar has long suspected that his government employers used some
sort of mind-control technique to prevent him from disclosing too
much about S-4. While he says he has vivid conscious memories of
the saucers and other technology, there were other memories that even
now remained locked, which is why he sought out Keck in the first place.
Keck is convinced that someone really did mess with Lazar's head.
[CUT:]
Keck:
Also they used tremendous fear in threatening those in his environment
if he did bring this information forth. Also, it appears that maybe
there were some chemicals used.
[CUT:]
Lazar:
Nah, I'm not going to change anyone's mind. That's not my intention.
I'm just relaying the experience -- the job that I went through.
It is a fantastic thing. It's a fantastic story. I can't take people
there to show them what was going on, and you know, I don't expect
anyone to believe it.
[CUT:]
Knapp:
What if he is right? What if aliens are here? How would this change
our view of the world? Our most fundamental beliefs? Religion?
We'll know more on that tomorrow.
[END CUT.]
_______
Also MISSING from the 11/25/89 version are Knapp's opinions and
comments before and after most of the nine previously broadcast segments.
His extended comments at the end of the ninth segment are particularly
bold. He says: "What we have learned" is that "the Government has
lied" and "has discredited UFO witnesses."
Knapp suggests that any future Congessional UFO inquiry must be "without
ties to the CIA" or other intelligence agencies.
Then turning from a co-anchor and looking into the camera, he seems
to speak to particular individuals:
"There are people probably watching right now. . . who know a lot
about this subject." And he asks them to call him.
Knapp ends the ninth segment by assuring his viewers that "the
investigation will continue."
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