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Info-ParaNet Newsletters Volume 1 Number 086
Info-ParaNet Newsletters, Number 86
Friday, November 24th 1989
Today's Topics:
Re: Area 51: The Nevada Test Site's Supersecret Ufo Base?
Robert Lazar on KVEG-AM
Implant Recovered
Update: Area 51
Update: Area 51
Update: Area 51
Hello
Re: Bill Cooper's lecture in L.A.
Re: Update: Area 51
Re: Area 51: The Nevada Test Site's Supersecret Ufo Base?
Re: Update: Area 51
Miami Okla
Hello
Hello
Re: Bill Cooper's lecture in L.A.
Re: Pu/wolf 424
Re: Millersburg, OH Case
Gulf Breeze/Circles
Antimatter Drives and Area 51
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From: paranet!Don.Sudduth
Subject: Re: Area 51: The Nevada Test Site's Supersecret Ufo Base?
Date: 22 Nov 89 22:49:00 GMT
This Area 51 stuff has the same feel as the MJ-12 documents. Sounds
alot like disinformation again!!
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From: paranet!Robert.Klinn
Subject: Robert Lazar on KVEG-AM
Date: 23 Nov 89 02:41:00 GMT
Theoretical physicist Robert Lazar and friend Las Vegas realtor Gene
Huff -- in-studio guests on "Billy Goodman's Happening" live talk show,
KVEG 840-AM Radio, 10:00 p.m. 11/21/89 until 1:00 a.m. 11/22/89 --
answered questions for three hours.
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From: paranet!John.Burke
Subject: Implant Recovered
Date: 23 Nov 89 00:36:52 GMT
Did anyone see the Nov.21 Hard Copy show on NBC? They showed an implant
which was surgically removed from the leg of an abductee. Rather than
being round, it looked like a sliver of glass. Examination of it
revealed it was composed of silica (glass) but of an unusual honeycomb
structure containing trace amounts of silver and several other metals. I
didn't know that any implants had actually been removed and examined like
this. Has this been done with any other abductees? Has this story been
revealed anywhere else or was tabloid TV the first to break the story?
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From: paranet!f428.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Michael.Corbin
Subject: Update: Area 51
Date: 23 Nov 89 03:55:00 GMT
CONTRIBUTED BY: Robert B. Klinn, ParaNet Director of
Investigations/Research
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(C) Copyright 1989 ParaNet Information Service
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Theoretical physicist Robert Lazar and his friend, Las Vegas realtor, Gene
Huff -- in-studio guests on "Billy Goodman's Happening" live talk
show, KVEG 840-AM Radio, 10:00 p.m. 11/21/89 until 1:00 a.m.
11/22/89 -- answered questions for three hours.
These notes were compiled from 10:20 p.m., thus missing 20 minutes
(10:00 - 10:20 p.m.) of the three-hour program.
Lazar says he is tired.
1. Lazar's Purpose In Going On-Air:
Although Lazar's main stated purpose in appearing on the broadcast is to
protect himself, caller Bill Cooper says one of Lazar's motives is
anger -- previously expressed privately to Cooper -- that billions of
dollars are needlessly wasted in the normal U.S. sectors by those without
access to this alien technology. Lazar agrees.
Lazar says another reason for his appearing is to correct incorrect
information he had heard on previous broadcasts.
Billy Goodman says Lazar's, Bill Cooper's, and John Lear's lives are on
the line and that Lazar's best protection is the media, which is keeping
Lazar alive.
Lazar hopes "other people out there" working at S-4 will loosen up, come
forward, and join with him to present their information as one, as a
group. He doesn't want to be "the lone ranger."
Congressional amnesty -- suggested by a caller -- would be nice, says
Lazar, but merely offers freedom from prosecution. By coming forward,
he concedes, the other S-4 workers have everything to lose and nothing
to gain.
But Huff says there has to be a moral guideline where national security
has to hang in the balance and that the reporting of the existence of
alien spaceships is where you draw the line.
Caller Bill Cooper says there is "a higher value" that those at S-4
should consider as a reason for coming forward to join Lazar.
But Lazar makes a point of distinguishing his whole view of the UFO
situation from that of John Lear or Bill Cooper.
2. Verification of Lazar's Background:
Lazar says he worked at S-4 -- a "restrained military environment"
in Nevada -- from 12/88 to 4/89.
In response to callers who want independently to check up on Lazar,
he says his "colorful" background has already been checked by George
Knapp of KLAS-TV, who had traveled to Los Alamos Laboratories and
had spoken to former Lazar colleagues, who confirmed he really had
worked there -- in spite of Los Alamos itself denying the fact of
Lazar's employment with them. (Knapp's UFO broadcast displayed a
page from a 1982 Los Alamos Labs internal phone book, listing Robert
Lazar.)
Caller Bill Cooper, who says he has talked to Lazar for over a year,
says that by talking to persons at Lawrence Livermore Laboratory and at
another facility, he and associates have confirmed Lazar's previous
work in physics at the places Lazar specified. Lazar replied he was not
aware of this checking done by Cooper.
Responding to an "investigator" caller wanting Lazar to give him private
info in order to check him out, Lazar says Lazar himself once took a
correspondence course to be a private "investigator."
Lazar says he has 25 people each wanting independently to check him out,
but he will not allow that.
Although Lazar admits he was paid by check, he refuses to discuss anything
about the check stubs.
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From: paranet!f428.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Michael.Corbin
Subject: Update: Area 51
Date: 23 Nov 89 03:55:00 GMT
<...Continued from previous message>
3. Lazar's Clearance Level:
He says neither REECO (Reynolds Electrical and Engineering Co., Inc.) nor
EG&G -- each a well-known U.S. Department of Energy Test Site
contractor -- has people at S-4, that those persons' clearances are at
most Q-Clearances, while his own clearance is "38 levels above Q-Clearance."
The closest to S-4 that REECO or EG&G people physically get, he says,
is Area 51.
4. Threats Made to Lazar/Lazar Shot At?
When Goodman refers to Lazar's telling him before the broadcast that
Lazar had been shot at, Lazar says he doesn't want to talk about it.
Lazar says he was called to go back to work but officially refused
because he didn't like the idea of returning to that isolated place
in the desert where they could do what they wanted to him.
However, he says his clearance has not been revoked.
Lazar says the executive powers at S-4 have run amok and there are no
checks and balances. Congress, he says, has no knowledge of all this.
Lazar says there are no lengths to which the military will not go to
conceal this information.
5. Mind Control Suspicions:
He contacted hypnotherapist Layne Keck of Serenus Clinical Hypnosis in
Las Vegas because there were a couple of days where Lazar remembered
only going out in a plane and coming back, but nothing in between.
He suspected mind control had been performed on him.
Lazar purposely selected Serenus because it had nothing to do with UFOs.
[A Las Vegas Yellow Pages ad says:
Serenus Clinical Hypnosis
Helen Baucum
30 years Experience
"Pin-Point" Method
Children Our Specialty
Weight Control, Stuttering, Bed Wetting, Nervous Tensions, Smoking,
Drinking, Memory Retention
384-4420
1833 W. Charleston (across from S. Nevada Memorial Hosp.)]
Under hypnosis, Lazar recalled intense drilling, threatening actions
taken against him, and his drinking of "pine," which his hypnotherapist
said was similar to the "Orion [sp?] Method" of regimented hypnosis used
by the military.
Per Huff, Lazar was given drugs and hypnosis by his employers -- not so
he would forget what he was working on, but so -- by their imprinting
his subconscious -- he would be afraid to talk.
Per Huff, after first telling Lazar his phone was tapped, the military
later threatened him because, having monitored his phone, they knew he
was planning to release information about the alien craft. Huff says
the military were amazed that the drugs and hypnosis had not worked.
Although he is afraid, Lazar hopes they won't come after him now since he
has already talked.
6. Location of the Saucers:
Lazar says the nine saucers are not at the supersecret Area 51
(Groom Lake) of the U.S. government's Nevada Test Site, but at S-4 --
10 miles south of Area 51. The disks are only at this one place.
However, to go to work, Lazar flew (by plane) to Groom Lake, waited a
short time at a cafe, then got on a bus [with blacked-out windows,
per Lazar's Knapp-series statements].
Lazar says he knows someone who drills tunnels at the Test Site, but
no mention is made that this individual also works at S-4.
7. Bad Aliens Killed S-4 Workers:
Lazar says the aliens are not benevolent.
Some humans were killed in a conflict after a U.S. military
intelligence power play, after which point a previously ongoing
information exchange ended.
Huff says Lazar earlier told him -- and Lazar agrees he had said this --
that this exchange of information occurred between the aliens and
human scientists/human security personnel [at S-4?].
But although the aliens had allowed themselves to be under constant
human guard, the aliens had insisted there be no bullets in the guns
worn by the security people. [Bullets may have been a symbol covering
all loaded weapons.]
The security people ignored that demand, and they all died from head
wounds -- which left no evidence of how they had died.
The aliens even killed the scientists they were teaching.
[On Knapp's broadcast last week, Lazar said he was told he was one of
the replacements:
George Knapp:
The dangers associated with 115 [the alien element] and anti-matter may
be the reason Lazar was hired to work at S-4. There was an accident,
he says, back in April 1987, an accident that was passed off as an
unannounced nuclear test.
Robert Lazar:
Some people got killed. I was told flat out I was one of the people
that were to replace these guys.]
Responding to a caller, Lazar says talking about aliens is NOT a touchy
subject for him. Aliens exist, he says.
[Lear, in an earlier On the Record KLAS-TV broadcast, says Lazar saw
aliens.]
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From: paranet!f428.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Michael.Corbin
Subject: Update: Area 51
Date: 23 Nov 89 03:56:00 GMT
<...Continued from previous message>
8. Time of Saucer Test Flights:
The tests of the saucers at S-4 are Wednesday nights.
Lazar says he was fired because he showed people where and when these
tests were performed.
9. Who Pilots the Test Flights?
Lazar says the experimental UFO flights at S-4 are flown either by
remote control or by human pilots -- not by the aliens.
10. Origin of the Saucers at S-4:
The alien vehicles Lazar saw up close in hangars come from
"another world: "the fourth planet out from Zeta Reticulum II [sp?],
a binary system." [Same as on Betty Hill's map?]
11. Description of the Saucers:
He says he touched one of the nine UFOs and even stood in its doorway.
He says the saucers mostly appeared "like new" -- one of them looking
like the Billy Meier saucer.
[On George Knapp's recent series "UFOs: The Best Evidence" (KLAS-TV,
Las Vegas), Lazar says one of the saucers "looked like it was hit
with some sort of a projectile. It had a large hole in the bottom and
a large hole in the top with the metal bent out like some sort of,
you know, large caliber 4- or 5-inch had gone through it."]
The inside of one craft appears made of wax and then cooled off,
all like a cast or mold of one thing with no rough edges.
Inside were small chairs, one or one and one-half feet, as though
made for little kids.
(Compare with George Knapp's new Roswell witness who said on Knapp's
nine-segment broadcast that a Roswell funeral home worker had told him
the military had purchased all of the "baby or youth caskets" in stock
for the purpose of holding the Roswell aliens.)
12. Nine S-4 Saucers Extraterrestrial -- Not Earthly:
The nine disks he saw up close -- including the one he worked on --
were not earthly and were definitely extraterrestrial.
Lazar can't say whether or not the other disks he saw at a distance
during testing [seen on video presented in George Knapp's broadcasts]
are man-made or extraterrestrial.
13. Physics of the Saucers at S-4:
Lazar says the vehicle attaches itself to a distorted portion of
space-time and returns with the distortion. It's a new physics.
The vehicles brought a space-time warp with them.
Lazar says the propulsion technology should properly remain
classified, since everything there is looked at from a weapons
point of view. A lot is directly applicable to weapons systems, and he
has no intention of releasing it, he says.
But he says the craft uses gravity as a lens and the power source is
an anti-matter reactor.
Two Modes of Travel for Saucers at S-4:
1) When traveling around the surface of the planet, the vehicles balance
on a gravity wave or ride a wave like a cork on the ocean. In this
mode they are unstable and are affected by the weather.
2) For space travel, they use gravity generators. But if they fly
around the surface of Earth using this mode, they may flip over, a
phenomenon Lazar says has frequently been observed in past sightings
in the published UFO literature.
Two gravities: A & B.
Gravity A works on an atomic scale whose interaction is small and has
to do with fuel -- the alien Element 115 used for the disks.
Gravity B works on a macro scale.
The gravitational field is OUT OF PHASE with [unknown ?] and is like
a wave generator. It is LONGITUDINAL generation -- not spherical, as
a caller suggested.
14. Project Aurora:
"Aurora," says Lazar, distinguishing it from any UFOs, is the
replacement for the SR-71 plane. It uses a three-mile runway and
makes a sound like continuous explosions. It has speeds up to Mach 10.
15. No Alien Cattle Mutilations?
As far as HE knows, Lazar says, there is no alien UFO tie-in with
cattle mutilations.
16. Few Abductees?
More persons claim to be abductees than have actually been abducted,
suggests Lazar.
17. No Blue Diamond Entry Way for Saucers:
Notwithstanding UFO watchers congregating at Blue Diamond, Lazar says
there is only a gravity anomaly around Blue Diamond, not an entry way
for saucers into our universe.
18. Other Physics Comments By Lazar:
Time travel:
GRAVITY affects time. Moving FORWARD in time is "a breeze": All you
need do is get close to a gravitational field.
Moving back in time MIGHT also be possible.
Some physicists today, says Lazar, invoke superstring theories to simply
add another dimension to the universe whenever they can't explain something.
Referring to laser fusion experiments as "stupid," Lazar refers to a
location where they have been conducted.
Lazar also speaks of a process of squeezing plutonium.
In response to a caller's question, Lazar says M-42 is a galaxy.
19. Lazar says George Knapp's two-hour program on KLAS-TV,
Channel 8 in Las Vegas, this Saturday, 11/25/89, 8:00 p.m. to 10:00 p.m.,
will contain "much more information" than Knapp's recent nine-part,
two-hour UFO broadcasts last week.
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This is contained in a file called 1122LACO.UFO in the Library.
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From: paranet!f2.n3607.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Jerry.Woody
Subject: Hello
Date: 23 Nov 89 06:47:00 GMT
Greetings everyone from Paranet Alpha Gamma!
I just wanted to comment on the recent Hard Copy series that recently was on
t.v. Hard Copy handled UFO's and abductions with what I thought was good
taste. No snickering and 'smart' comments after the piece ran. I was
surprised to learn about the implant in one of the abductees leg. More
surprising is that this 'implant' hasn't been heralded on every BBS,
magazine and 'tabloid t.v. show'. Is this just a recent happening or is the
implant a well kept secret?
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From: paranet!Greg.Sandow
Subject: Re: Bill Cooper's lecture in L.A.
Date: 23 Nov 89 06:39:00 GMT
Yeah, Cooper's Galileo assertion really was absurd on its face. Thanks
for clarifying why in detail. But how about his notion that the U.S.
set the Soviet government up in power? He cited 1919 as the date that
happened . . . which I believe is actually the date the U.S. joined
various European countries in sending troops to *oppose* the Soviet
government. I rolled on the floor in hilarity at that one.
Had you been there, you most likely wouldn't have gotten very far
contesting the guy. The audience wouldn't have listened. They were too
busy cheering when Cooper opposed gun control. They also spent time
worrying whether the video cameras in plain view at various spots had
been set up by the CIA -- as if the CIA would operate in plain view.
Actually, the video cameras were Cooper's (of course). The audience (or
large parts of it, anyway) was just too paranoid to listen to anyone's
good sense . . .
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From: paranet!f37.n114.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Jim.Speiser
Subject: Re: Update: Area 51
Date: 23 Nov 89 09:22:00 GMT
Wow. Thanks, Mike & Robert, that certainly puts a different spin on things.
I've come closer to forming an opinion, but I think I'll wait until some of
our more scientific types have a chance to comment on some of the meatier
things Lazar talks about.
Jim
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From: paranet!f19.n19.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Bryon.Smith
Subject: Re: Area 51: The Nevada Test Site's Supersecret Ufo Base?
Date: 22 Nov 89 15:06:00 GMT
> "UFOs: The Best Evidence." (Incidentally, each of those
> nine parts was approximately 15 minutes, not one hour.)
I was confused about the length of the show.
> Lazar/recovered alien vehicles investigation is continuing;
> also earlier in the series, he had said that this was only
> the beginning, that the investigation is "by no means"
> over.
Looks like they may have come up with enough pro information to believe it
is worth a bit of extra effort.
...Bryon
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From: paranet!f428.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Michael.Corbin
Subject: Re: Update: Area 51
Date: 23 Nov 89 20:40:00 GMT
> Wow. Thanks, Mike & Robert, that certainly puts a different
> spin on things. I've come closer to forming an opinion, but
> I think I'll wait until some of our more scientific types
> have a chance to comment on some of the meatier things
> Lazar talks about.
You bet it does. ....then the clouds moved in and it became very
dark....Toto, Toto!
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From: paranet!f19.n19.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Ray.Griffin
Subject: Miami Okla
Date: 22 Nov 89 21:47:00 GMT
* Original: TO ... Don Ecker of 1:104/422
* ReDirected Using ReDirect Version 1.00 (C)1989 David Nugent
IT ISN'T A PLANE, IT ISN'T A PULSAR, AND IT ISN'T A PROSAIC. IT IS ONLY THERE
TO PORTEND. EVERYONE WILL GET THEIR CHANCE TO SEE. THERE MIGHT EVEN BE A FEW
BIGFOOTS COME YOUR WAY. SO LISTEN NOW MY CHILDREN TO WHAT I HAVE TO SAY. IT IS
NOT WHAT YOU SEE THAT MAKES ANOTHER DAY, BUT THINGS UNSEEN THAT COME YOUR WAY.
(WEST /SOUTHWEST 850 MILES )
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From: paranet!f22.n30163.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Don.Ecker
Subject: Hello
Date: 23 Nov 89 19:31:00 GMT
> AREA:INFO.PARANET
> Greetings everyone from Paranet Alpha Gamma!
Jerry:
Greetings from ParaNet Alpha-Delta!! To answer your question about the Hard
Copy copy, the implant has been known about for about 4 to 6 months. Cheryl
and her husband, Chuck Fernandez, are abduction experts in the LA area. Their
group, the LA UFO Abduction Research and Support Group, have been in operation
for about 2 plus years. Chuck and Cheryl are very conscientious and
supportive folks. Knowing them slightly, I know that they are very serious
about what operation they undertake. Hope this answers your question.
If you wish more info, be specific and I will interface.
Regards:
Don
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From: paranet!f22.n30163.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Don.Ecker
Subject: Hello
Date: 23 Nov 89 20:19:00 GMT
A P.S. for you, Jerry:
News of the glasslike implant WASN'T completely ignored by
the media; a story about it ran in Vol. 4, No. 3 of
UFO Magazine. In the same issue was another story about some sort of residue
retrieved after another possible abduction. (This one's under investigation
by abduction researcher David Jacobs in Pennsylvania).
--Don
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From: paranet!f19.n19.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Bryon.Smith
Subject: Re: Bill Cooper's lecture in L.A.
Date: 23 Nov 89 16:14:00 GMT
> Thanks for the information on Bill Cooper. As a
> professional astronomer I have to hotly contest Cooper's
> assertion about the Galileo mission dropping 50 pounds of
> plutonium into Jupiter's atmosphere. In fact, after I got
> up off the floor from hilarious laughter I sat down to
Hehe.. I am not a professional astronomer but I knew that much about stars.
hehe.. Funny that a highly educated man like Mr Cooper could come up with
something so far fetched.
Needless to say I had to get up off the floor first time I read it to. :-)
...Bryon
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From: paranet!f19.n19.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Bryon.Smith
Subject: Re: Pu/wolf 424
Date: 23 Nov 89 16:22:00 GMT
Marc, did you see that picture they showed on TV the other day about the
massive lay out of galaxies ? They said it was the first time that such a
large picture could be put together. The formation of galaxies looked like
a massive (hand held) fan. They showed it in 3D on a computer.
Now there are people who are going back to the drawing board concerning
their theories of the creation. Some hardly think that a "BIG BANG" could
have created this formation of galaxies.
Honestly, the formation sorta looked like a huge leaf of some living plant
to me.
After viewing this 3-D picture I wonder again about the life that must exist
out there in the vastness of space, and the power that brought it to be.
...Bryon
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From: paranet!f19.n19.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Bryon.Smith
Subject: Re: Millersburg, OH Case
Date: 23 Nov 89 16:34:00 GMT
> Just an update on the Millersburg, OH case. Dale Wedge and
> I are MUFON State Section Directors for N.E. Ohio.
Good to have you join us here, we expect to have a few more MUFON people in
the ParaNet areas soon.
> case. On the night of the reputed landing, I had a phone
> call from a local television weatherman who has contacted me in
> the past to discuss UFOs. He mentioned that his co-worker, who
You may know that I have been researching some UFO sightings and one
"landing" report in the N.E.OK. area, see ParaNet file NEOK.UFO.
I would like to know if you have any information concerning any "beings" or
the shape of the craft that is said to have landed there ?
If you would like you can send me net mail concerning any information that
you are unable to release at this time for whatever the reason.
At this time the fact that we are having so many reported landings around
the country is very interesting as well as the description of the beings
that have been sighted. When you find several different people who report
seeing a being that looks so very much alike and you know they don't know
each other nor have they heard of each other's reports then perhaps there is
something more to it. The ones I am talking about are the Green Glowing
beings and not the Grays that is most often mentioned. One of my contacts
said he saw one of these green glowing beings face to face only a few feet
away, he knew nothing about the North East OK landing report and doesn't
keep up with most of the UFO reports.
Keep us informed.
Thanks.
...Bryon
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From: paranet!f428.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Michael.Corbin
Subject: Gulf Breeze/Circles
Date: 23 Nov 89 22:04:00 GMT
I got a call from a source in Gulf Breeze the other day and he
related to me that there have been numerous sonic-type booms
being heard in the area. Residents have become very concerned
and the local media has been covering the story. However, a
7'8" circular-swirl-type indentation was recently discovered in
Gulf Breeze. My source indicates that there appears to be no
connection to the swirl and the booms, however strange they both
appear to be.
The grass is a type of saw grass that is difficult to mash down
and it was reported to be completely flattened in a clockwise
motion, and the blades of grass were knotted up. A local
university dispatched a team to the sight to conduct soil tests,
etc. This report is not available yet. The source of this story
has also taken photographs of the site and is making them
available to ParaNet. They will be supplied to ParaNet's
newsletter, Oddysey for publication.
Mike
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From: cyrill
Subject: Antimatter Drives and Area 51
Date: 24 Nov 89 20:44:28 GMT
>From: macleod@drivax.UUCP (MacLeod)
In article <265@oasis.mrcu> paj@mrcu (Paul Johnson) writes:
:A couple of months ago I read Robert Forward's book "Mirror Matter" in
:which he suggests that the practical use of antimatter is now
:possible. Are his ideas impractical? If not, what is being done
:about them?
Glad you asked about antimatter.
According to a series of reports on two Las Vegas television stations
(there is a two-hour special coming on 11-25 for those in the LV area)
one Robert Lazar, formerly employed by the government at the mysterious
Area 51, says that the US government has 500 pounds of element 115,
which somehow produces antimatter when irradiated.
This fuel is used to drive waveguide-type gravity amplifiers which
are the FTL drive components of nine alien spacecraft stored in hangars
out at Area 51 (the supersecret testing grounds also known as "Dreamland"
in the middle of the Nellis AFB bombing range about 65 miles northeast of
Las Vegas). From his brief description of how the drives operate, they
seem to create local black-hole strength gravity gradients which slow down
time and cause a space-fold quickly traversible by the spacecraft.
Lazar says he was hired to continue covert research into these spacecraft
and their engineering infrastructure after a former team of scientists
had screwed the pooch with a batch of element 115, forcing the AEC to
hurridly announce an "unscheduled" atomic test at Dreamland.
Don't flame me, call KLAS-TV in Vegas if you're curious. They will be
selling copies of the 2-hour special, due to the outpouring of interest
in it - stimulated by word of mouth and news propagated by ParaNet.
For some odd reason the national media have not paid any attention...
You can also get on the ParaNet mailing list by sending a note to:
scicom!infopara
Michael Sloan MacLeod (amdahl!drivax!macleod)
(This message included from 'misc.headlines' newsgroup of USENET. Please
excuse me for posting if this is a repeat posting.)
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