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Info-ParaNet Newsletters Volume 1 Number 103
Info-ParaNet Newsletters, Number 103
Saturday, December 16th 1989
Today's Topics:
Ufo's - Where They Visit
Lazar/115
Re: Lazar/Area51
Re: Lazar/area51
Re: Some comments on Info-ParaNet
Re: Information
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From: paranet!f428.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Michael.Corbin
Subject: Ufo's - Where They Visit
Date: 16 Dec 89 05:46:00 GMT
> My initial observation concerning UFO sitings seems to
> point to the majority of these sitings occurring in the
> USA. I may be wrong. Well, regardless of whether I am right
> or wrong, I would like to see some statistics (on a
> continent/country by continent/country basis) of these
> sitings.
Nice to see you participating, Mark.
I believe that we have a file on Alpha, which I will check out
for sure, that breaks down the statistics by country up to around
the 70s. I will check this out. I have noticed from the
material that Bob Fletcher sends up our way that it appears that
your country has had its share. I have also noticed from the
news clippings that the UK seems to have an abundance of
sightings as well.
> On the premise that the above assumption is correct, the
> next question that arises is why? I can only hazard a guess
> that:
>
> 1. The USA contains technical knowledge superior to
> any other nation.
> 2. The USA is seen as a possible threat to these
> "visitors".
> 3. The USA citizens are more observant to the
> "phenomena" than other continents/countries.
> 4. Or maybe you are all raving lunatics who see not
> only spots before your eyes but big silver
> saucers??!!?? :-)
Perhaps these are all correct. I feel that numbers 3 and 4 are
probably more on the mark, though. Due to the nature of the
phenomena here in the U.S. and the seeming intense interest in
the New Age connection, there seems to be a heightened awareness
of the possibility of 'space brothers' visiting Earth.
> Lastly, the idea/inference was made by Lazar that monies
> destined for SDI were in fact being used to fund this
> "secret base" in the desert. Well, I don't know much about
> SDI suffice to say that it is a glorified (and rather
> expensive one at that) early warning system. Regardless of
> what it is supposed to do I fail to see how enough money
> could be diverted away from public scrutiny (taken off the
> books so to speak) and placed into the "care" of the
> "Uniforms".
Out of all of Lazar's claims, this one sounds the most plausible.
"Out of sight; Out of mind" is the most famous bureaucratic
statement of the 70s and 80s.
Mike
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From: paranet!f428.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Michael.Corbin
Subject: Lazar/115
Date: 16 Dec 89 05:55:00 GMT
> Is there any independent confirmation that a nuclear
> explosion occurred
> in the atmosphere in 1986 as Lazar claims? The signature of
> such a blast
> if due to 115 would be completly different from a fission
> or fusion
> explosion. there would be no fission products from an
> antimatter explosion
> an dprobably much less induced radioactivity. Is athere any
> data on this
> supposed event in Nevada. Try the anti-nuke or environmetal
> groups.
Very good point. This and others aspects are currently being
investigated in the Nevada region. Most of the aspects of the
historocity of the Air Force's acquisition of 90,000 acres is
correct, Lazar seems to rely heavily upon these types of
activities as a means to support his claims. However, this does
not mean that they are even inter-related to one another or to
his experience. I found the land grab inception to Lazar's story
very interesting. The way that it was presented to the
television public made it sound as though it was very mysterious,
however, the Air Force did not say that their authority to do the
act of acquiring the land was higher than the United States, but
only higher than the Air Force. Surely, other departments of the
government are at a higher level than the Air Force, and with
this in mind plus the fact that Dreamland has been known to be
super-secret for over forty years does not support Lazar's
claims. If there was an unscheduled nuclear test in 1987, this
may be suspect. I am very interested in that test and whether it
was authentic and if there was anything unusual registered by
anyone monitoring the atmosphere.
Mike
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From: paranet!p0.f37.n114.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Jim.Speiser
Subject: Re: Lazar/Area51
Date: 15 Dec 89 19:59:00 GMT
In a message to Michael Corbin <12-13-89 23:53> Don Allen wrote:
->Maybe I'm paranoid,but I smell a RAT here..
Ooooh, I LIKE how this guy thinks. I smell the same rat, Don. And we're not
alone, either. The Supreme Curmudgeon himself, Jim Moseley, wrote in the
latest Saucer Smear,
"Might we speculate wildly that the Space Brethren have given the
(ha) Great Powers a definite time limit within which to get-it-together-or-
else??"
Jim
PS: Teller was at Malta??????? FAAAAAAA-scinating.
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From: paranet!p0.f422.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Clark.Matthews
Subject: Re: Lazar/area51
Date: 16 Dec 89 16:53:00 GMT
> Teller was at Malta??????? FAAAAAAA-scinating.
WAS Teller at Malta? Do we know this for sure????
Clark
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From: paranet!f1.n606.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Doug.Rogers
Subject: Re: Some comments on Info-ParaNet
Date: 16 Dec 89 21:10:02 GMT
Pleased to have you on board.
Paranet is an independent BBS network, set up to study all Paranormal
experiences. the udenet bunch sees only one of the four public message
areas. The area you see was originally called paranet-ufo. We TRY to
keep this area UFO oriented, as Paranet-general is the proper place
for the witchcraft et al discussions... however it is sometimes impossible
to prevent people from posting off subject.
I'm very interested in your comments, and hope to see you post more
on Paranet.
Doug Rogers
Echo Moderator
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From: paranet!f1.n304.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Jim.Torson
Subject: Re: Information
Date: 16 Dec 89 19:59:00 GMT
For about seven years (1976-1984) I lived in Socorro, New Mexico and
worked at the Very Large Array radio telescope, which is located in
the middle of nowhere about 25 miles west of Magdalena and about 25
miles east of Datil, New Mexico. Some of the people working at the
VLA live in Datil. During that time I never heard any direct
reports of UFO activity in the area.
I may be wrong, but I seem to recall that there was a brief mention
of UFO sightings in the Magdalena and/or Datil area in Ray Stanford's
1976 book _Socorro 'Saucer' in a Pentagon Pantry_ (Blueapple Books,
P.O. Box 5694, Austin, TX 78763). Despite the stupid title, this is
a very good book that discusses the famous 1964 UFO sighting in
Socorro.
BTW, my interest in UFOs was sparked by discussions with a
professional astronomer during the 50 mile drive between Socorro and
the VLA site. Don't let anyone tell you that no astronomers believe
that UFOs are a real phenomemon worthy of scientific study!
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Jim Torson - via FidoNet node 1:104/422
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