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Info-ParaNet Newsletters Volume 1 Number 100
Info-ParaNet Newsletters, Number 100
Tuesday, December 12th 1989
Today's Topics:
Re: The State of Events (Repost from #98)
New Affiliate
Re:nsta And Ufos
Re: The Closest Encounter
Re: Re:nsta And Ufos
Re: Klass of Fyffe
Re: Klass Of Fyffe
Re: Klass of Fyffe
TESLA
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From: paranet!f19.n19.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Ray.Griffin
Subject: Re: The State of Events
Date: 8 Dec 89 02:58:00 GMT
Bryon, I'm not sure that they are getting thru or folks aren't
interested in my ideas. I think that a test is in order. Therefore when
folks notice some unusual computer problems through-out North America,
it will be their own fault. As to the satanists, I don't like them at
all. They scare little children so if one is reading this, he can tell
all his friends that the "Devil made me do it". Actually, they scare
very easily. So watch the papers around Ark' & Okla' for a big revival
up that way. Here comes a revelation, It's sacrifice time and
quess who is on the menu.
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From: paranet!f428.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Michael.Corbin
Subject: New Affiliate
Date: 11 Dec 89 03:54:00 GMT
This is to introduce the newest member of the ParaNet family.
Please welcome:
ParaNet OMEGA-XI
Yuen Ho
Glen Waverly, Victoria, Australia
Please take a moment to introduce yourself to the group.
Michael Corbin
Administrator
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From: paranet!f207.n914.z8.FIDONET.ORG!Rick.Moen
Subject: Re:nsta And Ufos
Date: 10 Dec 89 00:28:03 GMT
> If the audience was impressed with the team's credentials, they were
> even more impressed with the even-handed and highly scientific
> presentation of the subject matter. The point, as Dr. Swords put it,
> is not whether UFOs are alien or not, the point is that they present a
> challenge, not just to the norms established by science, but to the
> thought process that is science itself. Students can be shown
> procedures such as formulation and testing of hypotheses, evaluation
> of experimental results, etc., without being prejudiced by knowledge
> of the right answers - there IS no right answer (yet). More important,
> students can be taught to question authoritative statements that have
> no basis other than strength of conviction.
>
> The presentation was funded in part by the Fund for UFO Research. It
> was purposely not publicized in the UFO press; there was a stated fear
> that "someone" from the skeptical camp might actually try to quash the
> event by pressuring the convention organizers, as has happened in the
> past with other UFO events.
Hi, Jim. Just a small note to mention that my group (Bay Area Skeptics)
and many other skeptics' groups would be delighted to support and
promote presentations of the type described above.
Yrs. Truly,
Rick M.
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From: paranet!f19.n19.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Bryon.Smith
Subject: Re: The Closest Encounter
Date: 10 Dec 89 01:31:00 GMT
> Byron, why the witchcraft question? Any reason why you'd
> expect to see an apparition in conjunction with witchcraft?
> I don't see the connection.
People have been seeing an increase in sightings of all kinds relating to
the paranormal. Some are seeing "bigfoot" some of seeing "giant bird like
creatures" some are seeing "ghosts" & or "demon like" things, while others
are seeing UFOs. Many who have seen UFOs have also seen apparitions, some
saw "grays" or some other demonic-looking things while others saw "angelic"
like apprations.
There appears to be a connection, almost as if people are seeing things that
may relate to their own "fears" or "expectations." Almost as if the things
they "see" are designed just for them.
In our area at this time I have talked with several who belive there is an
increase in "witchcraft" and "satanic" type activities which they believe is
affecting certain paranormal activities, ghosts/demons, strange power
failures, things "flying" around the house, lights being turned on and off,
strange sounds, etc. as well as a great number of people telling me of their
"strange" dreams which (some say) they have never had before. Most of
these people don't even know each other but they tell things that almost
appear to be related. Are they all just "kooks" or what ? So I have taken
it upon myself to investigate these other things as well as UFOs.
In one house that I investigated there was one room in the house that was a
bedroom at first where people had the strangest "nightmares." None of them
had any idea at the time that there was something wrong with the room, but
they soon discovered some very strange things. These people wen't
"expecting" anything and didn't know what the others had "seen" in that room
but their stories were enough alike that they will cause one to believe
in "demonic" activities.
Is there a connection ? After the owners stripped about 7 layers of paint
off of the walls (it's an old house) in that room they discovered drawings
on the walls on the very first layer of paint. The drawing on the east wall
was that of a fanged serpent wearing a crown. The one on the west wall was
like a frog like blob with it's tongue sticking out, and the one on the
south wall was hard to make out but looked something like a child's drawing
of a dark cave like place.
That's just a fraction of one of the reports, but is there some connection ?
I just try to get as much information as I can to try to see if some larger
picture can be seen when looking at a case.
Sure, the thing in the window could have been a curtain blowing in the draft
of their furnace, or it might have been an "alien" or it might have been
something else. For many it's easier to believe in UFOs or aliens rather
than some "ghost like" apparition, but what is the truth ? Do "aliens" just
"beam" in and out of someone's house on Halloween, or was it something else
? Something perhaps harder to explain than aliens in UFOs.
Personally I think the odds are that it was a trick of the light, something
blowing in the wind inside the house, but who knows ? I doubt that an
"alien" beamed into their house for a few moments just so he could be
captured on video. I would find it easer to believe it was an "energy" type
"being" from days of long ago, or "demonic" than I would to think it was an
"alien." Just what exactly is a "demon" or an "angel," does anyone really
know ?
...Bryon
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From: paranet!p0.f37.n114.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Jim.Speiser
Subject: Re: Re:nsta And Ufos
Date: 11 Dec 89 19:39:00 GMT
In a message to Jim Speiser <12-09-89 17:28> Rick Moen wrote:
->Hi, Jim. Just a small note to mention that my group (Bay
->Area Skeptics)
->and many other skeptics' groups would be delighted to
->support and
->promote presentations of the type described above.
Thanks, Rick, glad to hear it. And glad to know that you're not among those
who believe that institutions of higher learning should not be associated
with UFOs in any way.
Jim
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From: paranet!f20.n3607.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Jerry.Woody
Subject: Re: Klass of Fyffe
Date: 9 Dec 89 07:39:00 GMT
->Perhaps it was because she saw the object shortly after
->that and it was only fifty feet away and 300 feet long.
I can certainly see where that would stop a Klass story cold! B-) .
->If you are interested, the Fyffe encounter never quit. The
->people just got quiet about it. Wouldn't you if something
Yes, I'm a Mufon Investigator (trainee....) here in Alabama & hear bits &
pieces about further objects being sighted. Unfortunately, it's some miles
getting to Fyffe & I've just been up there once or twice. I think everyone
'really' got quite after the Current Affair.. (?) [I get my tabloid t.v.
mixed up sometimes...] thing, which really is a shame. Of course, as you
say, I guess the object(s) itself didn't help matters any.
JWW
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From: paranet!f20.n3607.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Jerry.Woody
Subject: Re: Klass Of Fyffe
Date: 9 Dec 89 07:46:00 GMT
->Sure London would be nice ... but then they've been
->appearing there since 1745. At least...
Yes, so in a 'round-about-way' I guess the criteria set by Klass in OMNI has
been met.....
Speaking of European sightings/encounters, I knew very little about them
except from the bits & pieces from the major news agencies. I finally
got around to ordering a book, "The UFO Conspiracy" by Jenny Randles.
Fortunately, the author doesn't linger to much on the MJ-12 docs. It does
bring out a lot of data about sightings in Australia and England. Very
interesting.
JWW
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From: paranet!f20.n3607.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Jeff.Ballard
Subject: Re: Klass of Fyffe
Date: 11 Dec 89 07:43:00 GMT
I would hate for people to get the impression that Phil Klass is right
on top of every UFO sighting in pursuit of the facts...I believe Susan
called Klass as part of her journalistic duties with the newspaper as
part of her efforts to present a complete story on the events that
were unfolding at the time, not being fully aware of his role as a
debunker. The same is probably true of Rick Boling's piece in the
December Omni. He most likely called Phil Klass to get the skeptic's
side of the story, and Mr. Klass honored him with the why not
Washington D.C., etc. quotation (which it seems like I've heard before
with some other small town in the Fyffe spot)...What I am trying to
say is that I doubt Mr. Klass has ever paid a visit to Fyffe or for
that matter has ever done any investigation into the sightings of the
area. It would really surprise me to hear that Klass actually does
any field investigations into UFO sightings. It would be much easier
just to be the perpetual skeptic and issue quotes like the previously
mentioned one, or attribute every sighting to viewings of Venus, etc.
in answer to the inquiries of journalists.................BJB
P.S. We need to chat again some day soon!
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From: paranet!f1.n304.z1.FIDONET.ORG!T.s..Bennett
Subject: TESLA
Date: 11 Dec 89 21:23:00 GMT
Due to all the recent and historical interest given to
the work of Nikola Tesla, the rumors as to the location of
so called "secret files" nabbed by the Secret Service after
his death, and the efficacy of some of Tesla's ideas in
terms of "free power" and "beam weapons", I turned the full
attention of my company toward researching the subject for a
couple of days. The results have been rewarding.
For those interested in "actual" hands on experience
with Tesla coils, it would be best to join the Tesla Coil
Builders Association, contact Harry Goldman, RR6, Box 181,
Glens Falls, New York, 12801, (518) 792-1003, to receive the
newsletter ($20 per year), which is packed with ALL kinds of
data and projects to build, source lists, etc. To get all
the back issues as I did several months ago, costs about
$120, and along with the back issues you get stickers and
reprints of old articles, advertisements, memorabilia type
Tesla stuff. It's great!
I found out that a fellow named Robert Golka had a
compulsion to reinvent Tesla, went to Belgrade museum 3
different times, to try to gain more info on how to build
Tesla type stuff. After having been summarily asked to leave
the Massachusetts environs because of his projects causing
static interference on all his neighbors TV sets, he
finally, as of 1979, got a $28,000 grant from the Air Force
to study the effects of lightning hits on aircraft, after
having built the largest Tesla coil in the world in an
abandoned quonset warehouse at Wendover Airfield, Utah,
(from Westways Magazine, Vol.71 No.4, April-1979) which at
the time belonged to the Air Force, and incidentally was the
place of final assembly of the atom bombs before they flew
them out to the pacific to nuke the Japs. The diameter of
the largest coil in the two coil assembly was 51 feet! Golka
is now in a mine in Leadville Colorado, with no phone, a lot
of the same equipment and reputed to be "difficult" to deal
with. I have talked to an ex associate of his in Leadville
named Toby Grotz who has started a TESLA BBS in order to
gather together FACTS, money for research, and to END
INNUENDOS. The number for the BBS is (719) 486-2775.
Toby would appreciate more calls to his bulletin board.
Tesla's files and papers grabbed by the Secret Service
in 1943 now reside at the Air Force Library at Wright-
Patterson AF, Ohio. Battelle Labs has the contract to
maintain this library. Access to read the files would have
to be through Battelle Labs. One needs a high security
clearance to apply.
Tesla managed to infuriate the scientists of his day by
holding to his theories of "free energy" contained in the
"ether", or vacuum. The scientists then were just as
protective of their quantum theories as they are today.
If the so called "TOP" quark is not found to exist after
construction of the 6 billion dollar super collider in
Texas, then the whole theory of quarks will have to be
thrown out. Finally, then, after all this time, we could
turn to trying NEW THEORIES, that would accomodate
controversial thinkers like Tesla, Golka, and Grotz.
This coming summer will be the third national Tesla
Symposium, held in Colorado Springs, Colorado
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