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Info-ParaNet Newsletters Volume 1 Number 082
Info-ParaNet Newsletters, Number 82
Friday, November 17th 1989
Today's Topics:
Re: Info-Paranet Newsletter
Re: Area 51 coverage
Re: Area 51
MIAMI OKLA
Re: Area 51: The Nevada Test Site's Supersecret Ufo Base?
Re: Cooper in L.A.
The closest encounter
Re: Area 51: The Nevada Test Site's Supersecret Ufo Base?
Hoagland predictions
Bill Cooper
Cooper, Cooper, Cooper
Cooper
OZ Effect
New Node
Re: Info-Paranet Newsletter
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From: taos!uucp
Subject: Re: Info-Paranet Newsletter
Date: 16 Nov 89 20:01:54 GMT
I'd like to see those Las Vegas news reports, too. Can anyone make a copy
of the tapes for me? Once I have copies, I'll be happy to make more, so
the original taper doesn't get bogged down copying tapes.
-Steven Grimm
koreth@ebay.sun.com
sun!ebay!koreth
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From: taos!uucp
Subject: Re: Area 51 coverage
Date: 16 Nov 89 21:47:49 GMT
Yes, I can confirm that there is nothing about Area 51 in the New York
region, nor on Canadian news (via shortwave). What about California
or Texas?
gld
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From: paranet!f19.n19.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Bryon.Smith
Subject: Re: Area 51
Date: 15 Nov 89 16:06:00 GMT
> Is anyone making arrangements to obtain videotapes of the
> news coverage of the Area 51 reportage?
>
> I feel this is important enough to warrant taping, and I'd
> be obliged to anyone who could dub the coverage onto a
> videocasette for me.
>
> You should all know that this story has received no
> coverage -- absolutely NONE -- in the East.
I agree with you on that, and desire a copy myself.
You are right, it has gotten no coverage in the Mid-East either.
...Bryon
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From: paranet!f19.n19.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Ray.Griffin
Subject: MIAMI OKLA
Date: 16 Nov 89 06:44:00 GMT
IT ISN'T A PLANE, IT ISN'T A PULSAR, AND IT ISN'T A PROSAIC. IT IS ONLY
THERE TO PORTEND. EVERYONE WILL GET THEIR CHANCE TO SEE. THERE MIGHT
EVEN BE A FEW BIGFOOTS COME YOUR WAY. SO LISTEN NOW MY CHILDREN TO WHAT
I HAVE TO SAY. IT IS NOT WHAT YOU SEE THAT MAKES ANOTHER DAY, BUT
THINGS UNSEEN THAT COME YOUR WAY. (WEST /SOUTHWEST 850 MILES )
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From: paranet!f19.n19.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Bryon.Smith
Subject: Re: Area 51: The Nevada Test Site's Supersecret Ufo Base?
Date: 16 Nov 89 15:45:00 GMT
> days: 11/6, 11/7, 11/8, 11/9, 11/10, 11/13, and 11/14. It
> was then extended to include 11/15, 11/16, 11/17, and
> 11/20, but tonight it was announced the final segment will
> be on 11/16.
Sounds to me like the got into more than they had first figured on.
> 2. KLAS-TV's "Dubbing Department" has quoted a price of
> $100 per segment for each of the fifteen-minute segments.
> "With special permission," they "might" be able to get you
> a copy of all segments for $300. But that quote was made
GREAT HORNY TOADS !
> segments scheduled. However, the Dubbing Department lady
> said copies will be "scare as hens' teeth," and she advised
> personal taping.
Yes, I would go along with that. ;-/ hehe...
I can most certanly make dubs here, but I have no access to the feed, sure
wish I did. I can dub Beta, Super Beta, HQ VHS, and 3/4" production video
tapes.
Keep me informed.
...Bryon
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From: paranet!f19.n19.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Bryon.Smith
Subject: Re: Cooper in L.A.
Date: 16 Nov 89 15:49:00 GMT
> Well said. It is amazing how someone like Cooper together
> with his stories sort of take on a life of their own. It
> does go to show what one determined person can accomplish
> (whether for good or bad).
Yes it's a fact and something to keep in mind when researching this type of
information. We don't always know why they do it, but we do know they do
and we must be mindful of it.
...Bryon
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From: paranet!f19.n19.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Bryon.Smith
Subject: The closest encounter
Date: 17 Nov 89 01:00:00 GMT
A Current Affair will be showing a tape that was shot by a S.C. woman of 6
objects in the sky. No one was in her house but when she panned the camera
across the edge of her house there was someone/thing moving inside the
window.
Be watching 11/17/1989 for A Current Affair.
...Bryon
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From: paranet!Robert.Klinn
Subject: Re: Area 51: The Nevada Test Site's Supersecret Ufo Base?
Date: 17 Nov 89 04:17:00 GMT
1. "Vianney," secretary to the KLAS-TV news director, now says a
decision was made NOT to sell any copies of the series because,
although the series ends tonight, investigation is continuing and
additional segments may be broadcast.
2. On November 25, newsman George Knapp will reprise and update the
nine-part series in a two-hour, continuous report -- not another
segmented series. This 11/25/89 report will apparently not be the same
as the nine-part series but will include its substance.
3. A tape of the 11/25/89 report might be later sold by KLAS-TV for
$75.
4. Available now for $75 from the station is another tape comprised of
four (4) half-hour "On the Record" broadcasts, in which Knapp
interviews John Lear and Bill Cooper.
5. On KVEG-AM stereo radio, 840 on the dial in Las Vegas, "The Billy
Goodman Happening" talk show has been dealing with UFOs three hours a
night, six nights a week, 10:00 p.m. to 1:00 a.m. Sunday through
Friday. Goodman has been involved in organizing expeditions to the
outskirts of Area 51, taking bus loads of UFO watchers into the
desolate region. If atmospheric conditions are favorable, you might be
able to hear the show wherever you are.
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From: paranet!f1.n304.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Jim.Torson
Subject: Hoagland predictions
Date: 17 Nov 89 01:39:00 GMT
You asked what's new in Flagstaff... Well, for one thing, Ray and I
have found a couple other people who are interested in UFOs. From
time to time we get together and discuss the subject. But, we haven't
solved the mystery yet!
We recently attended a talk by ex-astronaut Dr. Brian O'Leary. I
picked up a copy of his new book _Exploring Inner and Outer Space_.
I just started reading it, and it looks pretty interesting. During
his talk he mentioned the Mars "face", so I asked if he knew whether
Hoagland's predictions about the magnetic field of Neptune panned out.
He said that he also could not figure out exactly what Hoagland was
predicting. So, does anyone know what became of all this? What
exactly was Hoagland's predictions, and was he right?
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From: paranet!f1.n304.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Jim.Torson
Subject: Bill Cooper
Date: 17 Nov 89 01:46:00 GMT
Here is a message from Ray Jordan (who is usually in effect looking
over my shoulder when I access ParaNet):
I was just thinking about Cooper's presentation at the bastard session
of the MUFON conference in Las Vegas. He said something to the effect
that HE JUST HAD TO GET THIS INFORMATION OUT. He certainly seemed like
a man with a mission. But, WHOSE mission?
I was struck at the time with how sincere he seemed during the
presentation. Although he seemed confident and well in control and
not nervous is speaking, he was sweating profusely (perhaps the only
speaker to do so). At the end, he seemed quite relieved.
Again, he certainly seemed to have been driven. But, driven by his
OWN conscious mind? Or, perhaps by a post-hypnotic suggestion from
someone else? I'd be interested in an opinion of his behaviour from
someone familiar with deep-trance subjects carrying out "implanted"
suggestions.
This may not clarify anything, but, can the waters get any muddier?
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From: paranet!Greg.Sandow
Subject: Cooper, Cooper, Cooper
Date: 17 Nov 89 08:25:00 GMT
Well,, I'm newer to all this, and so it was illuminating to read all
the further discussion (Bryon Smith's stuff) about Cooper's bad
attitude -- not to mention mis- (or dis- ) information in the past. And
of course some of his notions are absurd on their face: one out of
every 40 of us has been abducted???
I still think there could be some grain of truth in it all, but I have
to agree: he gives us very little help in determining where that grain
might lie. Thanks -- and thanks to Bryon Smith, too -- for bringing me
up to date.
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From: paranet!Greg.Sandow
Subject: Cooper
Date: 17 Nov 89 08:28:00 GMT
I thanked you via a message to Delton for bringing me up to dateKKKK
on everyone's past experience with Cooper, but this is a direct "thank
you." I'll prepare my longer report on Cooper's L.A. madness when I get
a chance, but thaat won't be for a week or two . . . life has a way of
getting busy.
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From: paranet!f401.n30163.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Bob.Fletcher
Subject: OZ Effect
Date: 18 Nov 89 02:46:00 GMT
John:
As a psychiatic nurse I have had some experience with people
suffering from temporal lobe epilepsy. I know doubt feel that in some
cases this condition could bring about a belief that the person was
experiencing something in the paranormal. However from my experience
the sort of symptoms we see prior to an epileptic seizure in the
change of consiousness known as the aura is usually a change in
behaviour of the suffers. This would vary with the individual.
Text books often make make too much on things like the epileptic feud
and olfactory halucinations. Whilst these occur they are not so
prevelent as one would expect.
Bob......
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From: paranet!f428.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Michael.Corbin
Subject: New Node
Date: 17 Nov 89 07:54:00 GMT
This is to welcome a new member to the ParaNet family.
ParaNet NU-GAMMA
Bob Sabo
Cape Coral, Florida
813-549-5158 2400
On behalf of the group, WELCOME! Please take a moment and
introduce yourself.
Michael Corbin
Administrator
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From: taos!uucp
Subject: Re: Info-Paranet Newsletter
Date: 17 Nov 89 19:32:08 GMT
In the Nov 20, 1989 issue of Newsweek, we find in the Periscope section
(near the front of the mag):
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(c)1989 Newsweek, Inc.
TELEVISION
'Not Tonight, Honey'
It's TV sweeps time again. Which means that TV stations everywhere,
in a last desperate attempt to attract viewers, have pulled out all
the stops in this ever-important ratings period. Some of this month's
proudest televison moments:
KMOV St. Louis: "Not Tonight, Honey." Three-part series on people too
stressed for sex.
KSTP St. Paul, Minn.: "Is There a UFO Cover-up in the Military?" and
"The National Chastity Association."
WABC New York: "Cryonics: Freezing Life to Beat Death."
WSB Atlanta: "Womb With a View?" Can we communication with unborn babies?
"Geraldo": "Nymphomaniacs" and "Lady Lifers. Bad Girls Behind Bars."
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Sex, death, crime, and UFOs. Finally, the Newsweek editors realize how
important UFOs are!!
A few people here have wondered why there has been no national
reaction to the recent Las Vegas TV stations' series on UFOs. Why
should there be a reaction? What is the mechanism besides rumor that
would alert the NY Times, ABC, NBC, Washington Post, etc., to what
local TV stations are doing? Someone who knows the TV business help
us out here. Is there some formal route that ABC uses to survey what
their affiliated stations are airing locally? And, supposing that the
big boys are even aware of what their affiliates are doing, there's
that constant ridicule factor to overcome with the UFO.
However, I believe the ridicule factor, despite the efforts of
organizations like CSICOP and our secret government, is actually
gradually lessening. An investigative journalist, who has published
books in the field of secret intelligence, recently asked me if there
were any good leads in ufology. Needless to say, I gave him an
"earful". Who knows? Maybe he'll do some digging and come out with a
book on UFOs and government secrecy in a while. The "problem" with
the books by Good, and Fawcett and Greenwood, from the establishment
point of view, is that Good, Fawcett and Greenwood are identified as
clearly within the ufology establishment, and thus, not (of course)
objective. More people like Ed Conroy need to comment on UFOs. This
trend is increasing in the late 1980s and should continue into the
1990s. That critical mass is approaching in the field of UFOs. The
open secret is becoming more open each month. The Las Vegas TV series
have done their small part.
Keith
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