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                      Info-ParaNet Newsletters, Number 79 

Monday, November 13th 1989

Today's Topics:

Re: Bill Cooper's lecture in L.A.
Project Blue Book - aka a govt coverup
KLAS-TV UFO Special
Re: Radar
UMMO Documents?
Correction to the Area 51 transcript
Bill Cooper's lecture in L.A.
Radar
Cooper in L.A.
Paranet Alpha's Survey Questionnaire
OZ Effect

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From: paranet!f19.n19.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Bryon.Smith
Subject: Re: Bill Cooper's lecture in L.A.
Date: 9 Nov 89 16:18:00 GMT

I find your information on Bill Cooper very interesting and will be looking
forward to your next report.

Thank you for your time and efforts.

...Bryon

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From: paranet!f19.n147.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Horace.Skinner
Subject: Project Blue Book - aka a govt coverup
Date: 10 Nov 89 01:55:31 GMT


JN> I dont know about the rest of you, but since I used to work in a highly
JN> classified area of the military, I know that the government, (and it
JN> doesnt matter which country either), doesnt want it's citizenry to know
JN> about anything that the government thinks that they can get a handle on
JN> to give themselves more power over it's populace. This holds true for
JN> the Project Blue Book also. PBB was just so much pablum for the public
JN> to shut the civilians up about anything relating to UFO's or anything
JN> else that is classed as paranormal. They have whole crews of personell
JN> that do nothing but put out propaganda to debunk anything that the
JN> government feels that they cannot control.
JN>
JN> Incidently, I'm new to the Paranet, and I'd like to say that I like
JN> what I see in here! In fact, I'm opening up a section on my own BBS
JN> for the users to discuss such things at will. If anyone is interested,
JN> it runs only at 300 bps, so long distance callers probably wouldnt like
JN> it too much, but in case anyone is, the number is (319) 365 6225. But
JN> now back to the other things.
JN>
JN> A good example of what I was referring to is when we would come back
JN> from an "assignment", we would be brought to a debriefing room, and
JN> told that we were not where we thought we had been, and had not been
JN> doing what we thought we had been doing, but were "actually" at such
JN> and such a place doing something else entirely. The government is quite
JN> expert at dis-information. And that applies to ANY government.

All this bull about debunk and disinformation is just that. Let's get
some concrete facts in here. And then, assuming that you can get some of those
facts, show that there has been a coverup. So far, nothing has been
"uncovered", and I honestly don't expect it to be. Hope you can prove me
wrong though.

Ski

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From: paranet!f428.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Michael.Corbin
Subject: KLAS-TV UFO Special
Date: 11 Nov 89 10:25:00 GMT

November 10, 1989

ParaNet Information Service (Denver, CO)--This evening saw
perhaps an unprecedented event in UFOlogy. KLAS-TV in Las Vegas,
Nevada has been airing a UFO special during the evening news
which began on Monday dealing with the UFO mystery and cover-up.
The series, which has been covered by ParaNet, began its coverage
with a history of UFOs beginning in the late 1940s and moving
forward through the numerous sighting reports to the cattle
mutilations, which was aired last evening. As promised at the
close of last evening's show, George Knapp, a news anchorman for
Channel 8 in Vegas, stated that a scientific person would be
featured on tonight's program who has claimed to work at Area 51,
the government's super-secret test range at Nellis AFB in Nevada.
Indeed, quite a story was told by Robert Lazar, a physicist who
claimed that he had worked on a project at Area 51 involving
flying disks provided by alien intelligences.
Over the last year, ParaNet has carried stories relating to
possible involvement with the government in projects of this
nature at the Nevada test site. Up to now, the stories have been
of a very speculative nature. Although the material presented by
Robert Lazar remains unconfirmed, enough information has been
disclosed that ParaNet's large investigative staff in Nevada has
started an intensive investigation into this release. It is
interesting to note that Robert Lazar is an associate of John
Lear and has been providing this information to Lear over the
last few months. Lear has appeared on Channel 8 on numerous
occasions together will Bill Cooper discussing Lear's famous 'ET
Hypothesis.' According to Lear, Lazar was instrumental in
providing Lear with locations overlooking the test site which
would provide a good view of the objects as they flew into the
night sky. Lear attempted to shoot video of an object as it
maneuvered through the night sky during last summer, however
nothing was captured on the tape of a substantive nature. Lear
also relates that his group was harassed by a Lincoln County
sheriff following his attempts to take the pictures.
Below is a transcript of the program that aired this
evening. All paragraphs out of quotes are the narrator of the
segment. We were as accurate as possible on the transcription,
however there are a couple of places where comments were edited
out due to inability to understand what was being said.
Further reports will be provided as information becomes
available.
=================================================================

We've been working on the story for some time....UFO
researchers claim that there is a secret government within our
government. Now this may be hard to believe coming from the UFO
perspective, but we have learned that Watergate and the Iran
Contra scandal that factions within our government can and do
pursue their own hidden agendas outside of the law; outside the
control of the Congress or the knowledge of the American people.
This is exactly the type of operation that we hear about tonight.
It's a chilling scenario with worldwide implications that may
have its roots right here [Las Vegas, Nevada].
Area 51, that mysterious corner of the Nevada Test Site, is
no longer considered a secret. The fact that secretive things
go on here isn't evident; even to the Soviets who make daily spy
flights over the facility to take a peek at what's going on.
These photos, never before shown in public, are about as close as
anyone will ever come to seeing what the place looks like again.
The dry bed at Groom Lake, the corrugated buildings, a three-mile
long runway and some highly sophisticated radar and detection
equipment. Its been known by many names over the years --
Dreamland; The Ranch; The Skunk Works. If ever there was a place
to test the secret new technology, this is it. And that's
exactly what has been done here for decades.
Area 51 is where Francis Gary Powers and the other U-2
pilots were trained in the 50s. And, where the U-2 itself was
developed. The SR-71 spy plane that spotted Soviet missiles in
Cuba in the early 60s were also developed at 51. 51 is where
Stealth technology was nurtured, where Star Wars devices are
still tested, and where all manner of CIA [unknown] business has
been plotted and refined. It's the perfect place for secret
things, but of course, that's no secret. 51 is ringed by the
forbidden vastness of the Nevada test site; by the looming Groom
Mountain and by sparsely populated desert expanses. But the
people that do live out here have no love lost for the military,
but they're conservative, patriotic and they mind their own
business.

Interviewer questioning a nearby resident of Area 51: "Ever see
something that you can't explain?"

Resident: "Sure, lots of times."
Interviewer: "Care to elaborate?"
Resident: "No." (Laughter).

On any given night at the Rachel Bar and Grill, you might
find three or four people who work at Area 51. They are among
the flowing Budweiser and the cowboy hats. You might find them,
but they are not going to talk to. Not about the things that
they have seen over the mountain. A steady trickle of curiosity-
seekers flows through here; strangers, drawn by strange stories
of lights in the night sky. Their questions also go unanswered.
No one who has worked at Dreamland has ever publicly acknowledged
what so many people have suspected for years: That alien
technology is being tested in the Nevada desert.
The speculation first surfaced in documents obtained by UFO
researchers. Documents about something called Project Aquarius.
The document allegedly prepared for an organization called MJ-12,
states that a program to fly recovered alien spacecraft was
established in 1972 and is continuing in Nevada. The National
Security Agency has confirmed it does have a Project Aquarius but
denies that it has anything to do with flying saucers. NSA will
not say what Project Aquarius is.
Speculation was heightened in 1984, when the Air Force
seized nearly 90,000 acres around Groom Lake. The action was, by
most accounts, illegal. During Congressional hearings about the
land grab, Congressman John Siberling grilled the military about
the legal authority used in the action and was told the authority
was at a much, much higher level than the Air Force.
Siberling asked what authority is higher than the laws of the
United States? The Air Force official said he could respond, but
only in a closed briefing. In 1987, when the Air Force sought to
renew its stranglehold on the Groom range, news articles once
again mentioned the talk about alien spacecraft and subsequent
articles in national magazines quoted un-named sources about
things of alien origin flying in Nevada. Things that would make
film-maker George Lucas drool. Despite the speculation, no one
who knew Area 51 from the inside ever talked publicly about the
saucer story.

Bob Lazar: "Well, there's several uh, actually nine uh flying
saucers, flying disks that are out there of extraterrestrial
origin."
The live interview with the shadowy "Dennis" drew
international attention. Portions were broadcast by radio in six
European countries, and in a nationally televised TV special in
Japan.
Despite numerous inquiries and "feelers," "Dennis" has
remained anonymous until now. His real name is Robert Lazar. A
young scientist with eclectic interests. The choice of "Dennis"
was an inside joke -- he says that's the name of his superior at
Groom Lake. It wasn't a joke to Dennis.

Lazar: "He called right after and said, 'Do you have any idea
what we're going to do to you now?' and I said no, and he hung up
the phone."


Lazar's story is by any standard, fantastic. He says he's
telling it in order to protect himself. He said he was hired to
work in area called S-4 which is a few miles south of Groom Lake.
At S-4, he says, are flying saucers, anti-matter reactors and
other working examples of technology that is seemingly beyond
human capabilities.

Lazar: "Right. This stuff came from somewhere else. I know it
is hard to believe, but it is there and I saw it. I know what
the current state-of-the-art is in physics and it it can't be
done."


Checking out Lazar's credentials proved to be a difficult
task. He says he holds degrees in physics and electronics, but
the schools that we contacted say they've never heard of him. He
says he also worked as a physicist at Los Alamos National
Labs where he worked with one of the world's largest particle
beam accelerators, a half-mile long 'behemoth' capable of
generating seven-hundred million volts. Los Alamos officials
told us they have no record of Robert Lazar ever working there.
They were either mistaken or were lying. A 1982 phone book from
the Lab lists Lazar right there among the other scientists and
technicians. A 1982 news clipping from the Los Alamos newspaper
profiled Lazar and his interest in jet cars. It, too, mentioned
his employment at the Lab as a physicist. We called Los Alamos
again, and an exasperated official told us he still had no
records on Lazar. EG&G, which is where Lazar says he was
interviewed for the job at S-4, also has no record. It's as if
someone has made him disappear.

Lazar: "Well, they're trying to make me look non-existent to the
places that I called...."

Interviewer: "Explain. Called where?"
Lazar: "Well, the schools that I went to; the hospital that I
was born at; past jobs, and nothing comes up with my name on it."


He smiles, but out of futility, knowing the whole thing must
sound ridiculous. According to Lazar, his employer was the
United States Navy. He says he and other government employees
would gather near EG&G, fly to Groom Lake, then a very few people
would get into a bus with blacked out or no windows and drive to
S-4.

Interviewer: "You get off the bus, what do you see?"
Lazar: "A very interesting building. Its got a slope of
probably about 30 degrees which are hangar doors, and it has
textured paint on it, but it looks like sand. It's made to look
like the side of the mountain that it is in, whether it's to
disguise it from satellite photographs or what...."


He says he was never told exactly what he would be working
on, but figured it had something to do with advanced propulsion.
On his first day he was told to read a series of briefings, and
immediately realized how advanced the propulsion really was.

Lazar: "The power source is an anti-matter reactor. They run
gravity amplifiers. There is actually two parts to the drive
mechanism. It's a bizarre technology. There is no physical
hookups between any of the systems in there. They use gravity as
a wave using wave guides that look like microwaves."


It took awhile, Lazar says, before he actually saw one of
the flying disks, however there were hints everywhere.

Lazar: "Right. They had a poster, and it looked like a
commercial poster, like it was lithographed, like you could buy
it at K-Mart or someplace, but they were all over the place and
it had the disk that I coined the term 'the floor model' which
lifted off the ground about 3 feet out at the area, in the Dry
Lakes area, and the caption on it said 'They're here.' These
posters were all over the place."


Later, he got to see the real thing.

Lazar: "When I was led in, it was the first time that I saw the
'floor model' in the hangar sitting down, and I was told they
could have walked me in the front door but they purposely wanted
to walk me by it. I was told not to say anything and to keep my
eyes forward and walk past the disk to the office area. And I
did. And as we went by it, I just kinda stuck my hands on it,
just to run it alongside the thing and uh ....After that I got to
see actually lift off the ground and operate."

Interviewer: "You actually got to see more than one?"
Lazar: "Yeah. The hangars are all connected together. There
are large bay doors between each one. There were nine total that
I saw, each one being different. Like they had the assortment
pack."


Security at S-4 was oppressive Lazar said, and his superiors
used fear and intimidation almost as a brainwashing tool.

Lazar: "They did everything but physically hurt me."
Interviewer: "They put a gun to your head?"
Lazar: "Yeah."
Interviewer: "You mean they actually put a gun to your head?"
Lazar: "They did that even in the original security briefing.
Guards there with M-16s. Guys there slamming their fingers into
my chest, screaming into my ear, they were pointing weapons at
me. Like I said, it's not a good place to work."


That fear factor would surface later. Lazar agreed to
undergo a polygraph exam as part of this report. Polygrapher Ron
Clay asked about the technology that Lazar had seen.

Polygrapher: "Did you knowingly lie when you had actually seen
anti-gravity propulsion in operation?"

Lazar: "No."

The results of this exam were inconclusive. Lazar appeared
to be truthful on one test; deceitful on a second. Clay
recommended that a second examiner be brought in. Polygrapher
Terry Tabernetti (sp?) runs a corporate security operation and is
a former Los Angeles police officer. He put Lazar through four
tests and concluded there were no attempts to deceive.
Tabernetti sent his test results to a third polygrapher who
agreed the results appeared truthful. The charts were then sent
to a fourth examiner who did not agree suggesting that Lazar
might be relating information he'd learned from someone else.
The polygraphers concurred and decided they would not issue a
final statement on truthfulness until more specific testing can
be conducted. And that's where it stands.
Tabernetti believes the difficulty in determining Lazar's
truthfulness stems from the fear that was drilled into him.

Lazar: "Well, I am telling the truth. I've tried to prove that.
What's going on up there could be the most important event in
history. You're talking about contact, physical contact and
proof from another planet, another system, another intelligence.
Thats got to be the biggest event in history, period. And, it's
real and it's there. And I had an extremely small part in it.
I'm convinced that what I saw is absolute proof of that. There
is no way that we could have created those disks. There is no
way we could have made the disks, the power supplies, anything
that goes with it."


Lazar says he has no intention of going on any UFO lecture
circuit. He is not looking to do any additional interviews. In
fact, he was not too crazy about doing this one. He did it after
certain unfavorable things started happening in his life, and he
did it because he feels that whoever is running the show up at S-
4 is perpetrating a fraud on the American people and the
scientific community.

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From: paranet!f19.n19.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Bryon.Smith
Subject: Re: Radar
Date: 10 Nov 89 15:47:00 GMT


> Interesting point, Byron. Has anyone asked Dr. Bennewitz?

As far as I know no one has been able to contact Dr. Bennewitz, I have tried
myself with no luck. I understand he is not talking with anyone about this
since his health has failed him.

I talked to another of my contacts in the Navy and asked him some questions
about their radar, he said their "...radar isn't working right now." I
asked "is it broke" and he said "no it's just not working right now." I
asked him if they had made any major upgrades in the radar systems, he
cleared his throat and said "...all I can tell you is that it just isn't
working right now."
I left it at that, I know they are making changes to
their weapons and tracking systems, but exactly what is classified. At this
point one can only speculate what upgrades and changes are being made. It
might very well be related to another rumor that I got from another Navy
source that tells me the Australiains have developed a radar system that is
able to detect the stealth fighters as well as normal radar can detect
regular fighters. If this is true then our very expensive stealth is all
ready obsolete. I could also see why a number of people in high positions
would like to keep it a secret. Still it is not verified and I have hopes
that someone out there will get us more information about this "rumor" about
the new radar systems. Perhaps (if it's true) this new radar system is also
able to pickup things that have been "radar invisible" in the past to normal
radar systems.

So how do we go about getting more information about this ? Is it or isn't
it, that is a good question.

...Bryon

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From: paranet!f630.n283.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Ann.Yeoman
Subject: UMMO Documents?
Date: 11 Nov 89 05:59:24 GMT

>From the book, "The Invisible College" by Jacques Vallee, 1975:

Quotes from and comments on the UMMO documents:

" We wish to inform planet Earth of our origin and
proceedings and the objectives of our visit to you.
We come from UMMO, a planet that revolves around
the star IUMMA, recorded on your earth under the
denomination Wolf 424."

^^^^^^^^^
AY> Is there *really* a star named Wolf 424?

"We proceed, as we have said above, from the planet
or solidified celestial body UMMO, whose characteristics
we indicate as follows:

Orbit: elliptical with the star Wolf 424 (IUMMA)
that serves as our Sun, as focus.

Distance from focus Wolf 424 to the focus of the
solar system on January 4, 1953: 3.68502 light years."



Fernando Sesma Manzano is a Spanish government employee ...
was flooded with typewritten material and telephone calls from
his outer-space friends. ....

Some of the communications contained wonderful three-dimensional
photographs. In hundreds of pages filled with specific technical
details as well as philosophical considerations, he saw unfolding
the complete system of thought of an alien life form ....

The UMMO documents are exceptional in two respects; first,
they provide a wealth of technical data that the reader is kindly
invited to check, and, second the groups of persons contacted by
UMMO are requested NOT TO REVEAL SUCH COMMUNICATION TO THEIR
GOVERNMENTS. ....

It would be comforting to discover that the claims in the
UMMO stories can be disposed of as mere hoaxes, but such is not the
case. In fact, many of the UMMO documents giving details of local
conditions at the time of the alleged "first landing" of 1950 have
now been checked and confirmed by the French police, ... "

AY> Have these papers been published in their entirety? What is
AY> the current thought about the validity of these documents?

Thanks for any information.
Regards,
Ann


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From: paranet!f428.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Michael.Corbin
Subject: Correction to the Area 51 transcript
Date: 12 Nov 89 08:48:00 GMT

SUBJECT: ADDENDUM/CORRECTIONS RE 11/10/89 KLAS-TV/NEVADA TEST
SITE/AREA 51 UFO REPORT

My introduction to the partial transcript of the program contains
certain presumptions -- rather than evidence -- which may be misleading.
These presumptions were based on prior SEPARATE KLAS-TV telecasts with Lear
and with a "
Dennis" -- now revealed as Robert Lazar.

> It is interesting to note that Robert Lazar is an associate of
> John Lear and has been providing this information to Lear over
> the last few months.

The extent to which Lazar has interfaced with Lear is unknown. In fact,
Lear appears to have had a number of Nevada Test Site sources, any one of
whom could have provided him with the Area 51 information.

> According to Lear, Lazar was instrumental in providing Lear
> with locations overlooking the test site which would provide
> a good view of the objects as they flew into the night sky.

In fact, it is unknown who -- if anyone -- steered Lear to the specific
locations overlooking the Nevada Test Site. Lear has made no statement
regarding Lazar in this regard.

> As promised at the close of last evening's show, George Knapp,
> a news anchorman for Channel 8 in Vegas, stated that a
> scientific person would be featured on tonight's program
> who has claimed to work at Area 51, the government's
> super-secret test range at Nellis AFB in Nevada.

Rather than being situated at Nellis Air Force Base in Las Vegas, Area 51
lies in the northeast corner of the U.S. Government's Nevada Test Site at
Mercury, Nevada, which is 65 miles north of Nellis Air Force Base.

Mike

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From: paranet!p304.f1.n304.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Linda.Murphy
Subject: Bill Cooper's lecture in L.A.
Date: 12 Nov 89 05:04:46 GMT


> And -- just in case all that doesn't sound bad enough --
> Biblical prophesies of coming disasters all will come true,
> just as all Biblical prophecies have always come true. The
> true mission of the recently launched Project Galileo is to
> drop 50 pounds of plutonium into Jupiter's atmosphere, thus
> turning the planet into a new star, which the secret world
> government plans to call . . . Lucifer!

Wonder how HAL will handle this.... (smile) -- Lucifer is the name of the second star created in 2010, and it is interesting to see so much emphasis put on "
Discovery" (referencing Arthur C. Clarke's "Space Odyssey" books).
------------
Cooper found himself in a totaly different "
environment", and there were some rather curious glances cast his way as he embarked upon his "politicl mission" Why he chose this particular organization to be the medium to further express his thoughts, remains to be seen .... (This group was also involved in trying to stop the Shuttle/Galileo launch). He did tangle openly with a former Reagan White House Aide, who, according to sources, challenged him on the spot over his UFO scenario. I can never remember the spelling of the group, but it is the Cristic Institute, and the White House Aide is Barbara Honegger (she provided a lot of info for McRae's "Mind Wars" and has written some papers on Parasychology).

I followed carefully the Galileo/Shuttle coverage on CNN. And was relieved to see the Shuttle take off and the Galileo safely on it's way. Someone could have fullfilled their own prophecies and fears out of ignorance.


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From: paranet!p304.f1.n304.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Linda.Murphy
Subject: Radar
Date: 12 Nov 89 05:04:17 GMT


> Anyone out there have any ideas that might explane or answer any of this
> ?

Yesterday, the news was filled with thoughts on the Soviets using Lasars on US pilots.

There was also an article in the local paper about the Soviets using rockets for weather control. Pretty interesting stuff....


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From: paranet!Greg.Sandow
Subject: Cooper in L.A.
Date: 13 Nov 89 08:37:00 GMT

>Thanks for that report on Cooper. Sounds like he is in
>worse shape then I thought. I suspect that the reason he
>was much more careful in his UFO statements is because he
>has been under the gun because of those statements in the
>past and is much more aware of what he will be called on
>whereas in the other stuff, no one has tried to pin him
>down and sensitize him to the absurdity of what he says.

One especially choice moment in Cooper's lecture came during
the question period. Someone in the audience said: "
You
know, of course, that the government can clone people." And
Cooper, without missing a beat, replied "
Of course."

But I could imagine he'd be even more vulnerable when he
talks about politics, when (to cite yet another craziness)
he tells his audience that the U.S. secretly helped the
Soviet government take power. You'd think more people would
know elementary history than would know details about UFOs -
- or enough detail, anyway, to compare what Cooper says
about them now with what he might have said in the past.

Though with someone this apparently crazy, who can tell? My
point, in any case, was meant as a kind of caution. There's
a joke about a mental patient who fixes someone's car, then
explains: "
I may be crazy, but I'm not stupid." *If* we
think -- with Roswell in mind -- that the government really
did once retrieve a crashed UFO, then can we afford to
entirely dismiss at least the *possibility* that Cooper,
crazy as he is, still might have something genuine to tell
us?

This whole business is a minefield . . .
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From: taos!uucp
Subject: Paranet Alpha's Survey Questionnaire
Date: 11 Nov 89 13:47:37 GMT



Mike, I have a minor complaint about Paranet Alpha's Registration
Questionnaire. After being asked about my interests, I was asked
whether my interest in these subjects is P)aranormal or
S)cientific.

It's both, dammit! I object to being forced to exclude one or
the other. This is an area in which exploration requires us to
use all our human faculties, the analytical and the sensory.

I also object to being dumped after filling out the registration
for the benefit of a "
System Event", but that's a whole other can
of worms...

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From: taos!uucp
Subject: OZ Effect
Date: 13 Nov 89 15:01:56 GMT

Temporal lobe epilepsy is postulated in many cases of allegedly paranormal
experiences. Many epileptics experierence premonitory symptoms callled the
"
epileptic aura" before attacks. This may explain the OZ effect. Is anybody
on the network an neurologist or anomalistic psychologist? I'd like
more info on this possibility.

I think the offer of a bounty for alien "
parts" was meant as a satire on
the logical consequences of crashed UFO's and autopsies of crew members,
not as a Rambo-esque fantasy as some correspondents may have thought.
-John

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DOMAIN infopara@scicom.alphacdc.com

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